Azerbaijan showed the wreckage of Armenian "Iskander" used during the war


The Azerbaijani side found traces of the use of Iskander missile systems by the Armenian army on the battlefield in Nagorno-Karabakh. Representatives of the Agency for Mine Action (ANAMA) of Azerbaijan speak about the relevant finds.


Since December last year, Azerbaijanis have been demining and neutralizing the found shells on the territory of Shushi. On March 15th, the fragments of two unexploded missiles were thus found. The experts determined the identification number of the found weapons - 9M723, on the basis of which it was concluded that these missiles belonged to the Iskander.

Azerbaijan showed the wreckage of Armenian "Iskander" used during the war






Earlier, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan noted the low quality and obsolescence of the Iskander systems in the Armenian armed forces. According to him, the Iskanders used by Yerevan in the NKR did not detonate or exploded only by 10 percent. Later, his statement on the use of Iskander by the Armenian military triggered the beginning of a political crisis in Yerevan.

The Russian authorities have come out with a denial of information about the alleged use of Iskander by the Armenian military during the war in the NKR. The Russian defense ministry noted that, according to information confirmed by objective control systems, missile systems of this type were not used during a military conflict in the unrecognized republic.
  • Photos used: @sashakots
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  1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 31 March 2021 18: 09
    +2
    Serial number on at least one wreck is present.
    (I'm not talking about carefully drawn with a marker or felt-tip pen on the "latch")
    It is easy enough to track the manufacturer and further movements of the "product".

    It is quite possible that the wreckage was brought from Syria ...
    1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
      Afinogen (Afinogen) 31 March 2021 21: 36
      +1
      Quote: Ulysses
      It is quite possible that the wreckage was brought from Syria ...

      And I am of the same opinion. Since they confidently show the wreckage and numbers for sure "Iskander" (otherwise they would have been ridiculed) I am plagued by vague doubts. Here is the bottommost shot, the detail is in the snow. Fell from a great height and no mark (as if just put). And yet, when they showed the hostilities in Karabakh, I did not see any snow at all.
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 31 March 2021 22: 02
        +2
        There you can always say, puffed like three weeks, collecting any scrap metal after the war winked
        Especially fallen from a height and buried in the ground.
        They got it, washed it ..
        And then suddenly Solmaz, the Hawkeye, drew attention to the markings known to the whole world.

        Something like that.
  2. Xuli (o) Tebenado 31 March 2021 18: 12
    +3
    The Russian authorities issued a denial of the information ...

    The very fact of the application has not been proven, therefore there is nothing to talk about.
    And if you take into account that this squabble does not concern Russia at all, then in general - to sneeze at them all and forget. They'll figure it out.
  3. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 31 March 2021 18: 28
    +1
    Well no. It is imperative to figure out who is questioning the statement of our Ministry of Defense, and to punish!
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 31 March 2021 18: 48
      .
      Congratulations to your MO lied " bully
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) April 1 2021 10: 35
        +2
        Congratulations to your MO lied "

        Please accept my condolences, in my opinion you again want to change your pants crying
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) April 1 2021 13: 45
          -2
          I don’t wear underwear, and my underwear has nothing to do with the lies of the Russian Ministry of Defense.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) April 1 2021 13: 51
            +2
            I don’t wear underwear, and my underwear has nothing to do with the lies of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

            Without them, it's probably more practical, you don't need to change. I recommend to take a closer look at Scottish national clothes good
            Where do you see lies? There below there is my more detailed commentary, please read, if you still have questions, come back and discuss hi
  4. Bakht Online Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 31 March 2021 19: 31
    +2
    The question was actually posed a little differently.
    https://ru.oxu.az/war/480580
    I recommend watching the video on the link
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 31 March 2021 19: 45
      +1
      The question was actually posed a little differently.

      And no less silly, just watch the last minute of the video.
      "A useless Russian rocket flew somewhere," collapsed in flight and landed in the "cultural capital of Azerbaijan" Shushi in the form of several intact parts. "
      Where is the rest, Karl ?? smile
      1. Bakht Online Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 31 March 2021 19: 59
        -1
        I am not omniscient enough to determine the modification of the rocket by the number of the rocket. There is a video, there are numbers of missiles. As you can see, it can be easily tracked. If, as you say, it was brought from Syria, then this can be easily proved. And in the appendage. The missiles didn't explode. Not 10%, not 100%
        1. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
          Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 31 March 2021 20: 35
          -4
          then we push bullshit and illiquid assets, since they don't explode anywhere.
          1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
            Ulysses (Alexey) 31 March 2021 22: 06
            +2
            then we push bullshit and illiquid assets, since they don't explode anywhere.

            Verify the truth.



            The Armenian military found in the conflict zone in Nagorno-Karabakh the wreckage of a rocket, which, presumably, is heavy rocket EXTended Range Artillery (EXTRA) Israeli production. laughing
          2. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 31 March 2021 23: 37
            +3
            then we push bullshit and illiquid assets, since they don't explode anywhere.

            So stop pushing bullshit, otherwise it will knock out the bottom.
        2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
          Ulysses (Alexey) 31 March 2021 21: 05
          +3
          I am not omniscient enough to determine the modification of the rocket by the number of the rocket. There is a video, there are numbers of missiles. As you can see, it can be easily tracked. If, as you say, it was brought from Syria, then this can be easily proved. And in the appendage. The missiles didn't explode. Not 10%, not 100%

          In the photo there are fragments of the engine, it is not supposed to explode.
          There is a warhead for this.
          An unexploded warhead is there for the show ?? repeat

          I don’t know about Iskander's main engine, but the starting engine is almost intact.

          Of all the pictures, only one fragment is subject to identification.


          For information, at the end of February, the Russian Armed Forces used Iskanders against barmaley in Syrian Idlib, using pro-Turkish proxies.
          While they collected the remnants of the main engine, while they figured out how to "apply for the case" what

          PS Idlib-Turkey-Azerbaijan is a provocation.
          Exclusively my conclusions. smile
          1. Bakht Online Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 31 March 2021 22: 02
            -1
            I repeat the first comment
            The question is posed incorrectly. By the number, you can determine the modification of the rocket. You did not see the forest behind the trees. If this is an export option, then the missile was Armenian. There shouldn't be any questions. They shoot in the war.
            If the missile was from Iskander-M, then it was fired from a Russian base. This is a completely different turn.
            I somehow don’t care if it’s a defective missile, or it was shot down by air defense systems. The question is different. Did Russia take part in the war in Karabakh? If the wreckage was brought from Syria, then the RF Ministry of Defense can easily prove it. Considering that the Azerbaijani side was not afraid to put the product number on public display, I personally have a different opinion from yours.
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 31 March 2021 23: 22
      +5
      The question was actually posed a little differently.

      There is no question, there are practically accusations. And you can ask questions yes For example..
      1) News source Сaliber.az, from where the video is taken from your link.
      https://caliber.az/post/caliber-po-suse-udarili-s-rossiiskoi-bazy-v-gyumri-video-3783

      They refer to their sources, which allegedly identified the modification of the rocket. Firstly, for this you need to be familiar with the device of both modifications and know how the presented details of one rocket differ from the other.
      The question is, why is it not indicated who, how and by what criteria determined what kind of rocket it was?

      2) As for the rocket itself, the marking 9M723, as far as I understand, is also used for the export version of the rocket, a different homing head is made for it.
      https://vpk.name/library/f/9m723.html

      If the conclusion was made by the specialists of the Azerbaijani army, I doubt that they do not know such details.
      The question is, do they say it exactly?

      3) On the Turkish channel Naber Global this news, several other details are given that are not in the original source, namely, comments on this topic by the representative of the Azerbaijan Republic Agency for Mine Action (ANAMA). Moreover, there is a link to the original source, the same Caliber.az. An interesting detail, the Turks write about the exploded missiles.

      https://haberglobal.com.tr/dunya/ikinci-karabag-savasi-nda-ermenistan-azerbaycan-a-karsi-iskender-fuzeleri-kullandi-101659

      I was surprised to find that the same news has been posted on the Caliber.az website twice and there are differences. In the first (text) version, which appeared at 12 o'clock. 05 min., We are talking about Iskander, the comments of the military or any Russian missiles and bases.

      - The geographic coordinates of the missile debris are as follows: 39 ° 45'38.10 "N 46 ° 44'33.90" E and 39 ° 45'27.80 "N 46 ° 45'25.80" E. During a check by the Agency's specialists of the identification number (9M723) of the missile, it was established that its wreckage belonged to the Iskander missile system. Even when searching in open Internet resources, one can determine that the identification number 9M723 belongs to the Iskander missile. All this confirms that during the Patriotic War, in particular, to destroy the city of Shusha, Armenia used Iskander missiles against Azerbaijan.

      https://caliber.az/post/srocno-armeniya-vse-ze-ispolzovala-protiv-azerbaidzana-rakety-iskander-foto-3723

      In the second version, which appeared later (at 20 02 min.), It is already asserted that the rocket is Russian. What mysterious sources visited the editorial office during the day and any technical details were not specified, but the conclusion was quite interesting.
      The question is, can the statements of anonymous sources be considered reliable?


      In my opinion, the answers to these questions are obvious, it remains to answer two more questions
      Who needed it and why?

      The question why, in my opinion, is answered by another piece of news that appeared on the same site in the interval between options 1 and 2, namely at 16:30 pm. a message appeared that:

      Turkish President to visit Shusha

      https://caliber.az/post/erdogan-posetit-susu-3761

      It turns out such a picture. At lunchtime, news came out, by 16 pm it became known about Erdogan's arrival and by evening the "creatives" gave birth to an accusation against Russia and the missiles turned into unexploded pieces. It is very similar to an attempt to exacerbate the situation, incitement to militant sentiments among the Azerbaijani people and enmity towards Russia and the Russian army in particular.
      Whoever needed it is probably easier for you to answer, you know the local realities better. hi
  5. Termit1309 Offline Termit1309
    Termit1309 (Alexander) April 1 2021 11: 26
    +2
    Quote: 123
    Congratulations to your MO lied "

    Please accept my condolences, in my opinion you again want to change your pants crying

    Trousers. But they are already used to laughing