Russia will have to choose between the United States and China, and this does not bode well for it


The recent spate of high-level US-China squabbles has highlighted the obvious fact that there will be no fundamental warming between the superpowers with the arrival of Joe Biden in the White House. On the other hand, an escalation to a still unknown degree is more than likely.


If for Donald Trump it was trade issues that were the main ones, and he devoted little time to "promoting democracy", then for the current administration, most likely, everything will be exactly the opposite.

Today's China can be called a rising empire, although it still has its own limitations, for the notorious Chinese world - "Pax Sinica" and its vision of the future - seems to be intended only for ethnic Chinese.

This is what distinguishes it from the alliance of Western democracies, the Soviet socialist idea or political Islam, where the right, at least, of entry for the neophyte has always remained free.

And even then, not all Chinese in the world are happy to be reunited in what is the modern PRC. Suffice it to look at the desperately protesting Hong Kong, the rapidly arming Taiwan and the extremely ambiguous Singapore, which at any convenient occasion emphasizes its isolation and sovereignty. In addition, a huge number of Chinese immigrants are buying up housing in the United States, Canada and Australia. There is no reverse flow - people of the West are ready to come to the Celestial Empire to work or to have fun, but very few decide to associate their future with China.

While clearly losing the battle for soft power, China can obviously try to rely on hard power. And this is not speculation. Almost all international analysts note the steady tightening of the external policy Celestial Empire over the past decade. And 2021 has every chance of becoming another frontier on this path. However, even the most powerful country needs allies here.

"Bamboo Curtain" is a term that is not very often found in journalism, even in foreign ones, and is practically absent in Russian. Its essence is quite simple - it is the "Iron Curtain" in Asia, separating the socialist countries of the continent (as a rule, totalitarian regimes, of varying degrees of odiousness) from the states of the first and third worlds.

This border was very visible. It ran - and is still there - between North and South Korea, totalitarian North and authoritarian South Vietnam, between Maoist China and the bright neon Hong Kong of the period of British colonial rule. The peculiarity of the "bamboo curtain", in contrast to its "iron" counterpart in Europe, was that they often - and often successfully - tried to move it. Mostly in favor of the Reds.

What will the new "bamboo curtain" be like? Some of its outline may be visible right now. In 2014, a military coup took place in Thailand and the then junta leader Prayut Chan-Ocha is still in power, although his rule is periodically shaken by protests, and the English-language media often accused him of an openly pro-Chinese position on many issues. Although Thailand and China are very close, these countries are separated from each other precisely by the territory of Myanmar, in which the military also came to power this year. And just as a number of foreign publications assert, the new government is noticeable by its pro-Chinese tilt.

However, history suggests that Third World autocrats are known for their very fickle dispositions. They are willing to take (especially for free), but are not very inclined to provide any services in return. On this, the late USSR was repeatedly burned, with a generous hand containing such figures all over the globe, even despite the very conditional adherence of many of them to socialist ideas. To what extent China has foreseen this feature is an interesting question.

In any case, in addition to soft power, the Celestial Empire also has a very real club of hard power. Which has not yet been used for its intended purpose, but everyone knows that it is ready.

For the Russian Federation, the new bipolar world does not bode well. Sooner or later, Moscow will face the need to choose between one side or the other.

Joining one of the parties in the new world order will inevitably lead to the fact that the one - whatever it may be - will inevitably require concessions: economic, political, and also, possibly, territorial. Not immediately, but at some point it will happen. An attempt to sit on two chairs, as practice shows, is more a disadvantage than a special geopolitical trick. For at a fateful moment, such a "cunning" runs the risk of being left without allies at all, but with obvious enemies on both sides of the barricades.

In addition, an attempt to portray a "third party" in the battle of superpowers, having behind the twelfth GDP in the world and a critical dependence on imported goods for a number of positions, is hardly reasonable on either side.

The long economic and political stability of both the United States and China was ensured by the presence of a multimillion-dollar middle class, which is the main pillar of the existing order in each case. In the United States, this was achieved with relative democracy, in the PRC, it was a little different, although socioeconomic liberalization took place there as well. There is no influential middle class in Russia - attempts to create it remained somewhere in the already distant XNUMXs, with their petrodollar boom and civil liberties.

It is also extremely difficult to talk about any external attractiveness of the socio-political model of the Russian Federation of the 2020s. Attempts to appeal to the Yalta peace and the events of the Second World War will not be successful in the international arena. For the conditionally "Yalta" world order was broken twice. First, in the XNUMXs, with the beginning of the Cold War. Then - with the collapse of the world socialist system. Now it breaks down for the third time, with an as yet unknown outcome.

Nevertheless, both superpowers will fight for Russia for an obvious reason. The geographic location makes the Russian Federation a much more important country than any single power in Europe or Asia. And its joining one of the blocs is quite capable of deciding the outcome of the new Cold War.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 26 March 2021 08: 42
    +7
    Objectively, China is closer between the United States and China. There are no statements about the division of Russia into 15-20 small countries. There are no statements, such as former British Prime Minister Thatcher, that a population of 15 million people would be optimal for Russia. And the rest where, to the gas chambers?
    Undoubtedly, it is difficult with China, but with NATO it is already impossible. They are clearly threatening now. In Poland and the Baltic States, a NATO shock military fist is being formed, as under Hitler. If they devour Russia, then China can be forgotten. And you can still live with China against NATO.
    1. Cyril Offline Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 26 March 2021 09: 15
      -6
      There are no statements, such as former British Prime Minister Thatcher, that a population of 15 million people would be optimal for Russia.

      So Thatcher never said that. This fake has long been dismantled to the bone, and you all believe him.

      There are no statements about the division of Russia into 15-20 small countries.

      From Western countries such statements after the Second World War did not seem to be received.

      But China in the 60s tried to chop off a piece from the USSR. And even now it has certain appetites for the Russian Far East.
      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 26 March 2021 09: 58
        +7
        Zakharova: Thatcher Foundation could neither confirm nor deny the quote about the population of Russia
        We are talking about the statement of the former British Prime Minister that the optimal population for Russia would be 15 million people.

        We contacted the Margaret Thatcher Foundation. We have a newspaper in which this quote was given, and the foundation did not answer us either yes or no, which would have been quite simple to do

        - she said.
        https://tass.ru/politika/7085355
        1. Cyril Offline Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 26 March 2021 10: 24
          -10%
          Zakharova: Thatcher Foundation could neither confirm nor deny the quote about the population of Russia

          And he should refute outright delirium? Moreover, the Thatcher Foundation, at the request of other users, gave a negative answer.

          Read where it came from.

          https://theins.ru/antifake/106477

          “We contacted the Margaret Thatcher Foundation. We have a newspaper in which this quote was given, and the fund did not answer us either yes or no, which would be enough to do simply, ”she said.

          Naturally, she did not provide a scan of the newspaper, did she?)
          1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
            Bulanov (Vladimir) 26 March 2021 10: 34
            +9
            If you want a scan of the newspaper, then contact Zakharova yourself. She is just waiting to chat with you!
            1. Cyril Offline Cyril
              Cyril (Kirill) 26 March 2021 10: 53
              -6
              If you want a scan of the newspaper, then contact Zakharova yourself.

              If she makes such statements, then it is she who must provide publicly (she also makes public statements) the evidence of her words. She did not provide them. And the answer is simple - she's lying.

              But I found a real scan of a real newspaper, which described Thatcher's speech in Houston in 1991 at a boring gathering of the world's oil workers. Here it is:

              https://www.nytimes.com/1991/11/19/business/oil-industry-lashes-out-at-restrictions.html

              There is no mention of "15 million Russians" in her words. It was only about the oil market.
              1. Dukhskrepny Online Dukhskrepny
                Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 26 March 2021 12: 06
                +11
                If you prove the “peacefulness of the West?” Tell the people of the former Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq about it.
                1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                  Cyril (Kirill) 26 March 2021 12: 09
                  -10%
                  Are you proving the "peacefulness of the West"?

                  I refute specific fake statements. This does not say anything about the peacefulness or aggressiveness of the West.

                  Tell the people of the former Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq about this.

                  Maybe I can tell about the peacefulness of the USSR to the residents of Afghanistan, the Czech Republic, Hungary
              2. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
                akarfoxhound 28 March 2021 17: 22
                +1
                Zakharova owes you? Your favorite Western guides will have highlighted highs, and then suddenly you personally owe something ??? wassat
                1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                  Cyril (Kirill) 28 March 2021 18: 19
                  -2
                  Zakharova owes you? Your favorite Western guides will have highlighted highs, and then suddenly you personally owe something ???

                  That is, Zakharova is no different from "my favorite Western leaders"? Okay, that's fine with me.
              3. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
                Bulanov (Vladimir) 30 March 2021 13: 40
                +1
                For Kirill:

                If she makes such statements, then it is she who must provide publicly (she also makes public statements) the evidence of her words. She did not provide them. And the answer is simple - she's lying.

                - Are you explaining Britain's accusations of Russia in the poisoning of the Skripals and Litvinenko? Yes, she (the Englishwoman), as usual, is blatantly lying.
                1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                  Cyril (Kirill) 30 March 2021 13: 47
                  -2
                  - Are you explaining Britain's accusations of Russia in the poisoning of the Skripals and Litvinenko? Yes, she (the Englishwoman), as usual, is blatantly lying.

                  That is, the Russian Foreign Ministry is no different from the English? Ok, it suits me.
                  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
                    Bulanov (Vladimir) 30 March 2021 13: 59
                    +2
                    For Kirill:

                    That is, the Russian Foreign Ministry is no different from the English? Ok, it suits me.

                    With the difference that in Russia statements are made by a press secretary or the head of the public relations department, and in England - by a whole minister and even a prime minister, i.e. our president! Do you feel the difference? If Zakharova is no different from the Prime Minister of England in her political significance, then that also suits me. Anglo-Saxons are getting smaller.
                    1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                      Cyril (Kirill) 30 March 2021 14: 04
                      -2
                      Who cares? Zakharova is exactly the same official representative of the state. The value of her statements is quite comparable to the value of the statements of the British Prime Minister, because Zakharova broadcasts official position of the state.
                      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
                        Bulanov (Vladimir) 30 March 2021 14: 12
                        +2
                        Yes, there is actually a difference. Otherwise, in your opinion, it turns out that on the example of Jen Psaki, the entire American administration headed by the President of the United States is impassable dumbass?
                        Jen Psaki - Formerly a spokesman for the US Department of State. In November 2020, she was appointed by President-elect Joseph Biden as White House Press Secretary.

                        “Jen Psaki claimed that“ gas goes from Europe to Russia, ”and was also worried about military exercises in“ the Astrakhan region bordering Ukraine. ”Yes, she had the most problems with geography. For example, she threatened to send the American fleet to shores of Belarus and argued that there are mountains in the Rostov region. "

                      2. Cyril Offline Cyril
                        Cyril (Kirill) 30 March 2021 14: 23
                        -2
                        Otherwise, in your opinion, it turns out that on the example of Jen Psaki, the entire American administration headed by the President of the United States is impassable dumbass?

                        This is how it works out in your opinion :) In your pink universe with stupid pendants and always smart Russians.

                        “Jen Psaki claimed that“ gas goes from Europe to Russia, ”and was also worried about military exercises in“ the Astrakhan region bordering Ukraine. ”Yes, she had the most problems with geography. For example, she threatened to send the American fleet to shores of Belarus and argued that there are mountains in the Rostov region. "

                        Of all that you have listed in the present, not your rosy reality, Psaki said only about "gas goes from Europe to Russia." And immediately she immediately corrected her reservation, but since you only watch the Russian media and do not look at the primary sources, you, of course, did not know this.

                        Likewise, she did not say anything about the mountains in the Rostov region (this was confirmed by the journalist Matt Lee, who interviewed her, in which she allegedly said this).

                        Likewise, she never said anything about the "fleet off the coast of Belarus". This anecdote was invented on the Runet, and then it was picked up by Irada Zeynalova on Channel One.

                        "Do not read Soviet newspapers in the morning" and you will be happy :)

                        However, no one bothers you to stay in your pink universe.
                      3. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
                        Bulanov (Vladimir) 30 March 2021 14: 34
                        +2
                        I read the American Internet, and there a lot is written about Psaki just like that. Maybe something is a fake, but here's an excerpt from Wikipedia about it:

                        On August 5, 2014, Psaki said the US State Department was concerned that Russian military aviation exercises were being conducted in areas bordering Ukraine. In response, a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry said that the exercises were being conducted in the Astrakhan region (1000 km from the border with Ukraine) and that the department “expressed concern about her [Psaki's] lack of basic geographic knowledge,” advising her to check the map before speaking.

                        "Rossiyskaya Gazeta" wrote that the name Psaki became "the standard for measuring stupidity" for Russians.

                        - Tell me not to read Russian newspapers? And whose, then, to read?
                        You have to say - Don't read any!
                        So you only have to take your word for it? Such an indisputable teacher ...
                      4. Cyril Offline Cyril
                        Cyril (Kirill) 30 March 2021 14: 55
                        -2
                        I read the American Internet, and there a lot is written about Psaki just like that.

                        It happens that American media reprints materials from Russian media. Well, or you read in the wrong place.

                        On August 5, 2014, Psaki said the US State Department was concerned that Russian military aviation exercises were being conducted in areas bordering Ukraine. In response, a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry said that the exercises were being conducted in the Astrakhan region (1000 km from the border with Ukraine) and that the department “expressed concern about her [Psaki's] lack of basic geographic knowledge,” advising her to check the map before speaking.

                        Psaki did not say anything about the Astrakhan region. She said "in areas bordering Ukraine." It was the representative of the RF Ministry of Defense that spoke about the Astrakhan region. But where is the guarantee that at that moment there were no exercises in other areas, including those bordering on Ukraine, which the RF Ministry of Defense did not inform the necessary ones to mention?

                        - Tell me not to read Russian newspapers? And whose, then, to read?

                        And draws. Read the primary sources. Transcripts or videos of the speeches of officials are usually posted in the public domain on the websites of government agencies, including the US Department of State.
    2. Sabinur86 Offline Sabinur86
      Sabinur86 (Ilnyr Sabirow) 27 March 2021 01: 06
      +2
      Why are you sticking with that late Thatcher .. And that US Secretary of State Albright, who together with Biden insisted on the bombing of Yugoslavia, did not say that Russia has too many resources for one state? .. I agree with Bulanov .., realizing potential threats from China, it's better to stick together at this stage ... And then, along the way, we'll see ...
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 27 March 2021 03: 01
        -4
        And that US Secretary of State Albright, who together with Biden insisted on the bombing of Yugoslavia, did not say that Russia has too many resources for one state? ..

        Nope, I didn't say it) For the first time, this "quote" was attributed to Albright by some Russian employee of state bodies, who, which is typical, said that he read it in her mind :)
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 27 March 2021 12: 39
          -2
          Not just an official, but an integral general of the FSO, who in all seriousness claimed that the FSO scans thoughts.
          https://rg.ru/2006/12/22/gosbezopasnostj-podsoznanie.html
          1. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 28 March 2021 14: 03
            -3
            Yes, there was generally a notable stray from a dude with imagination. In the 90s, “former employees of special agencies” didn’t tell anything, so that they could get money on sensational journalistic “investigations” about UFOs, telepathy and telekinesis.
  • Dukhskrepny Online Dukhskrepny
    Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 26 March 2021 12: 11
    +9
    There are no statements, such as former British Prime Minister Thatcher, that the size would be optimal for Russia.

    There are no statements about the division of Russia into 15-20 small countries.

    From Western countries such statements after the Second World War did not seem to be received.

    Now there is no need to feed illusions about the great power of Russia. We need to discourage this way of thinking ...

    Russia will be fragmented and under guardianship.

    A new world order under the hegemony of the United States is being created AGAINST RUSSIA, AT THE EXPENSE OF RUSSIA, AND ON THE WRINKS OF RUSSIA

    (Secretary of the Trilateral Commission ZBIGNEV BRZHEZINSKY)

    I would prefer chaos and civil war in Russia, the tendency to reunite it into a single, strong, centralized state.

    (Member of the Trilateral Commission, head of "B'nai Brit" G. KISSINGER).

    US President Clinton Directive # 13, February 1992:

    NATO's goal is to bring peacekeeping forces in the future to regions of ethnic conflict and border disputes from the Atlantic Ocean to the Ural Mountains

    .. Russia's task after losing the Cold War is to provide resources to prosperous countries. But for this they need only fifty - sixty million people.

    (British Prime Minister JOHN MAGER).
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 27 March 2021 09: 52
      -5
      These are all fakes. Where did Brzezinski say such a thing?
    2. Cyril Offline Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 28 March 2021 14: 01
      -3
      I checked it for every statement - none of them had such quotes in public speeches or in their works.

      Once again, check the original sources. If there is no original source, then this is a complete mess.
  • Cherry Offline Cherry
    Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 26 March 2021 14: 58
    +1
    From Western countries such statements after the Second World War did not seem to be received.

    They say, but more often their own people, Kudrin, for example.
  • Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 26 March 2021 09: 49
    -5
    Quote: Bulanov
    And you can still live with China against NATO.

    Dadada ... If you do an operation on the eyes according to the legend of slanting, so as not to stand out against the background of the main population, you can live.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 26 March 2021 10: 02
      +7
      Or gender reassignment, if you want to fit into the American dream.
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 26 March 2021 15: 50
        -7
        Have you been to Southeast Asia? The attitude to the sex issue there is traditionally very different from the European one. So if you want to correct the pipirku with your eyes, in China they will help you with this.
        By the way, unlike China, the United States is a very religious country in which the majority of the population is committed to traditional values, more religious than even Ukraine, not to mention Russia.
        1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
          Bulanov (Vladimir) 26 March 2021 15: 57
          +9
          Aha! So relational that Sodom and Gomorrah whisper nervously on the sidelines. How many floors are there?
          In New York, against the background of the popularization of LGBT people, there are officially 31 terms for denoting gender. The list of 31 types of human sex caused a serious stir among the American population.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 26 March 2021 16: 34
            -9
            Quote: Bulanov
            Aha! So relational that Sodom and Gomorrah whisper nervously on the sidelines. How many floors are there?

            Yes, in the Russian Federation 48% of the population consider themselves not religious, in the USA 16%.

            Quote: Bulanov
            In New York, against the background of the popularization of LGBT people, there are officially 31 terms for denoting gender. The list of 31 types of human sex caused a serious stir among the American population.

            You first understand the difference between gender and sex. Are you Ukrainian?
            1. Cyril Offline Cyril
              Cyril (Kirill) 26 March 2021 19: 33
              -5
              gender is too complex a concept for a hooray patriot. "Niasilith"
      2. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 28 March 2021 14: 08
        -2
        Someday read about kathoi in Thailand, learn a lot about eastern customs. And read about the former balleron of the Chinese People's Army Jing Xing in China too.
  • Polente the Wanderer 27 March 2021 21: 30
    -1
    China will simply swallow us up and they don't need to divide anything
  • Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 26 March 2021 09: 45
    -6
    Wow, what a good article. It is a rarity.
  • steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 26 March 2021 10: 16
    -8
    Russia will have to choose

    We all want to believe that Russia and Putin are deciding something. Yes, maybe there are some topics where it is allowed to decide something, but to a certain point. For example, the war in Abkhazia. Why didn't they take Tbilisi and put their own pro-Russian ruler in prison? At the same time, Sahak was brought to trial for the murder of UN peacekeepers. This is logical, it is in the interests of Russia. Or Crimea. Here in 2014 it was possible, right up to Transnistria, to clean up everything and Kharkov to boot. And there would not be those problems with these states that we have now. The answer is for the Russian authorities, the US is not allowed to cross the red line. Biden is already openly showing the whole world who is the master and who is the slave. Over the 20 years of his reign, Putin has earned such an assessment! Let him now slurp a full spoon! And Putin will soon return the ambassador. It will wipe and return. It is not allowed for "slaves" to take offense at the gentlemen!
  • Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 26 March 2021 10: 24
    +7
    Russia will have to choose between the United States and China, and this does not bode well for it

    1. It is bad when there is no choice and bad when it is wrong.
    2. The policy of the Russian Federation for the rest of the time was outlined by Vladimir Putin when he said that the Russian Federation would not be friends with someone against someone else.

    This is what distinguishes it from the alliance of Western democracies.

    Western democracy is a form of class domination of capitalists through democratic institutions, which in fact are a cover for the policy of a very small group of big business, which is thrown off every time in critical situations that threaten their domination.
    Socialist democracy is based on the dictatorship of the proletariat, which constitutes the absolute majority of the population, and is implemented through the proletarian state and its truly democratic, popular institutions of power and government.

    losing the battle for soft power, China can obviously try to rely on hard power. And this is not speculation

    1. The PRC is the only state in the world that has laid the foundations for building socialism and will continue its development in the 14th five-year plan, and this is possible only in conditions of peaceful existence and cooperation of states, regardless of their social system and management system, to which the PRC of all constantly and calls on.
    2. The economic successes of the PRC pose a direct threat to the world domination of the United States, at the same time attracting big capital with its huge sales market and development potential.
    3. The confrontation was initiated not by the PRC, but by the United States, and everyone who has influence was involved in this. A comrade's statement that China does not want war, but is not afraid of war either, responded to the aggressive policy of the United States.
    4. The impression that the PRC is losing the "battle for soft power" is erroneous, if only due to the development of economic relations with other countries, regardless of their state structure and management system, and is associated with the elementary number of opponents whom the United States connected to confrontation with the PRC - barking bought large capital of a flock of "analysts" will not stop the development of the PRC.

    both superpowers will fight for Russia

    The state, as a political organization of the ruling class, is interested in expanding its territory and seizing foreign resources, and therefore, instead of fighting, they can jointly destroy the Russian Federation with the help of an internal fifth column and divide the Russian Federation between themselves, and give the rest to their allies who will be incredibly happy about this.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 26 March 2021 15: 26
      +2
      Why only the dictatorship of the proletariat? And the rest of the people? You are citing statements and words from documents of figures who lived in the 19th century. These figures had NO idea about the current situation, and therefore their works are useful, but nothing more. In the current situation, to build socialism, other RESEARCH are needed (to begin with), which, so far, are in no hurry to carry out ... maybe because there is no request for them ???
  • Stalnov I.P. Offline Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. (Stalnov Ivan Petrovich) 26 March 2021 10: 30
    0
    They survived, so STALIN would have looked at it, ashamed of it all and went. Some conversations, promises, fairy tales. There won't be anything worthwhile from the leaders, look. It is not given to them to create, create and multiply. NOT GIVEN. By the way, China has overcome poverty, it turns out that the Chinese comrades are many times smarter, more professional, and more honest.
    1. Cherry Offline Cherry
      Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 26 March 2021 15: 03
      0
      By the way, China has overcome poverty,

      Where did you read this tale? Poverty cannot be overcome.
      1. Dukhskrepny Online Dukhskrepny
        Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 27 March 2021 16: 35
        +3
        Yes, the Chinese cost 100 grams of rice per day. Do not confuse China in the times of Mao and today.
      2. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
        Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) April 1 2021 09: 43
        +2
        During the 13th five-year plan, the economy has grown by over 7% and has become the world's locomotive. The average per capita income increased by about 6%, and, accordingly, the standard of living and the ability to pay increased. This multiplied by population size forms the largest consumer market in the world, attracting all global manufacturers. By 2025, income per person in the PRC will amount to about $ 12 thousand, compare this with the RF, EU, USA. Well, for clarity, you can go to the PRC from Vladivostok or Blagoveshchensk to Heihe, for example, and personally make sure that these are not empty words and propaganda.
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 26 March 2021 15: 46
      +2
      I agree with Tatyana here ... There is a video on YouTube where our compatriot came with a friend to visit the parents of his Chinese wife, or girlfriend, or bride ... Look HOW they live there!
      1. Cherry Offline Cherry
        Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 26 March 2021 16: 52
        +1
        I saw it too. It's just ... there are no words what wretchedness.
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  • Dukhskrepny Online Dukhskrepny
    Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 26 March 2021 12: 22
    +4
    Quote: Cyril
    Are you proving the "peacefulness of the West"?

    I refute specific fake statements. This does not say anything about the peacefulness or aggressiveness of the West.

    Tell the people of the former Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq about this.

    Maybe I can tell about the peacefulness of the USSR to the residents of Afghanistan, the Czech Republic, Hungary

    The troops of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries were introduced at the request of the legitimate governments of these countries and the situation was brought to this by the Western countries by their intervention. These countries bordered on the USSR and entered the zone of its vital interests ... By the way, the Zionist Spiegel is in jail. And this cannot but rejoice .Maybe getting rid of the 5th column begins?
  • Marat gum Offline Marat gum
    Marat gum (Marat Gum) 26 March 2021 12: 36
    +1
    Singapore is what side? they are not bad even without China ...
    1. Cherry Offline Cherry
      Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 26 March 2021 14: 56
      +1
      Apparently he thinks that China is claiming it, or they suggest that it is claiming, while the United States is constantly imagining something and they inspire it to anyone they want.
    2. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) 26 March 2021 15: 15
      -1
      It was about the Chinese world. Huaqiao.
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  • Cherry Offline Cherry
    Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 26 March 2021 14: 55
    +1
    For the Russian Federation, the new bipolar world does not bode well. Sooner or later, Moscow will face the need to choose between one side or the other.

    Apparently the role of that notorious wise monkey will go to Russia winked
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 26 March 2021 15: 49
      +3
      We can do without a monkey - we can live quietly, and let them just try to touch us.
      1. Cherry Offline Cherry
        Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 26 March 2021 16: 50
        +1
        And this is also correct.
  • Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 26 March 2021 22: 47
    -2
    Yeah, but in 20 years of government was it weak to make the United States and China choose? And everything is so beautifully sung about power and development ... well, you know ...
  • Ivanovich_2 Offline Ivanovich_2
    Ivanovich_2 (Sergey Protopopov) 27 March 2021 12: 05
    0
    Yes, the choice has already taken place. The Americans decided everything for us. Or does someone else not know that there is a war going on? Maybe someone overslept?
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 30 March 2021 19: 35
    -1
    Quote: Bulanov
    Objectively, China is closer between the United States and China. There are no statements about the division of Russia into 15-20 small countries.

    - Of course not - China will gradually, step by step swallow the whole of Russia ...

    There are no statements, such as former British Prime Minister Thatcher, that a population of 15 million people would be optimal for Russia. And the rest where, to the gas chambers?

    - This chatter (it is not clear to whom it belongs - whether Thatcher, or Albright, or in general it is a fake) is not backed up by anything and does not cost anything. But the expansion of China is worth a lot ...

    Undoubtedly, it is difficult with China, but with NATO it is already impossible. They are clearly threatening now.

    - And what will they do ?? What will be captured? For what will the blood of their soldiers be shed ?? How will they justify themselves to their peoples for this blood ?! Because there is no reason to actually attack Russia.

    In Poland and the Baltic States, a NATO shock military fist is being formed, as under Hitler. If they devour Russia, then China can be forgotten. And you can still live with China against NATO.

    - HOW will they eat her ?? AS?!
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  • kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) April 2 2021 09: 33
    0
    Bredyatina. Russia does not need to choose anything. The US is only offered to be an enemy and nothing more. All other conversations are from their agents of influence, i.e. traitors by and large.