Deadly Russophobia: Europeans are dying, not daring to buy a Russian vaccine

March 17 2021 70

A covid pandemic is sweeping across the planet, and to date, about 2,6 million people have died from this disease worldwide. Leading countries are creating vaccines, and Russian scientists did not stand aside, having developed the Sputnik V drug, which has proven its high efficiency. However, the excessive politicization in the issue of vaccination, according to experts of Strategic Culture, can play a cruel joke with the Europeans.

Several EU countries (Austria, Italy, Denmark, etc.) have stopped using the AstraZeneca vaccine due to frequent deaths from thrombosis after its use. This slows down the already slow vaccination of the population of European countries, which increases the danger of new strains of Covid-19. Due to a number of restrictions, it suffers greatly economy region, in connection with which last week the OECD called on Brussels to accelerate vaccinations.

However, the European Medicines Agency has not yet approved the Russian vaccine, which runs counter to official data on the effectiveness of Sputnik V and the growing demand for it.

According to some particularly critical European politicians (Donald Tusk, Ursula von der Leyen and others), Moscow allegedly uses its vaccine as "soft power" in order to provoke a split within the EU and increase the Kremlin's influence on internal European affairs.

This Russophobia and Cold War worldview is blameworthy.

- believes Strategic Culture.

In 2020, about 900 thousand deaths from covid were recorded in Europe, and people continue to die. Meanwhile, Sputnik V could quickly compensate for disruptions in the supply of vaccines to EU residents and save many lives. However, a number of European politicians overwhelmed by Russophobia do not dare to take such measures, making their own population hostage to their unjustified fears.

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Alexzn

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17 March 2021 10: 47

Russia can do without a satellite, but Europe cannot? It’s strange.
Of course, vaccination of Europeans with the Russian vaccine is a political issue and Europe will delay the production of the satellite until the summer, minimizing the prospect of its use. Already today, Europeans are vaccinated to a large extent more than Russians, but if they do not get out of the systemic problems with logistics, production volumes and side effects, then by summer there will be a dilemma - to wait for BP from the Americans or seriously think about the satellite. So far, there are no special prospects for the satellite in the European market, at least until the fall, and most likely until the end of the year.
1. Vladest
  
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  17 March 2021 15: 15
  
  Quote: AlexZN
  Of course, vaccination of Europeans with the Russian vaccine is a political issue.
  
  Not any politics. Europe is looking for all possible ways to speed up the vaccination of the population. But with regard to the vaccine from the Russian Federation, they have already explained 100 times why there are problems with its registration. The main thing is little statistics on its application and not a full cycle of testing it before the statement that "WE ARE THE FIRST!". Three vaccines are already in use in the EU and another one from Johnson and Johnson is on the way.
  I am so personally a supporter of discussing the Covid problem after the end of the pandemic.
  And the policy in a pandemic is purely the Russian Federation. This is the fact that the Russian Federation has not joined the COVAX program and the fact that in the Russian Federation, besides their own vaccines, others do not use others, although they themselves stated that there are few vaccine production capacities in the Russian Federation. Or is there no excess mortality in the RF last year in hundreds of thousands of people?
Cudgel

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17 March 2021 11: 42

... Leading countries are creating vaccines, and Russian scientists did not stand aside, having developed the Sputnik V drug, which has proven its high efficiency ...

and the results, the high efficiency of this mixture, called "Sputnik V" is there or once the 1st channel said. what is effective is effective. Bodyagu was sold to us, under the name of a domestic vaccine.

... The European Medicines Agency has not yet approved the Russian vaccine, which is contrary to official data on the effectiveness of the use of Sputnik V and the growing demand for it ....

I will tell you, on a big secret, that not only Europeans, but also our people do not want to voluntarily be vaccinated with this rubbish. Several acquaintances took root, they were forced at work and now they regret it. And few people want to be vaccinated voluntarily.
1. Bulanov
  
  +3
  
  17 March 2021 13: 29
  
  If Solovyov and Putin's daughter were vaccinated, then this vaccine is worth something. And the Russian microbiological school has been famous since the 1930s.
  1. Cudgel
    
    -3
    
    17 March 2021 17: 28
    
    If Solovyov and Putin's daughter were vaccinated, then this vaccine is worth something.
    
    Iron logic, if Solovyov and the never named heiress of the unknown owner Gelendzhiksoy of real estate took root, then this is an indicator.
    Yes, about the never named heiress, the unknown owner of the Gelendzhik real estate, that she has taken root, to this the same trust as to the fact that Putin will catch up with Honduras and provide 15 high-tech jobs in the remaining three years.
amateur

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17 March 2021 13: 49
Quote: Cudgel
results, the high efficiency of this mixture, called "Sputnik V" is there or once the 1st channel said. what is effective is effective. Bodyagu was sold to us, under the name of a domestic vaccine.

Fortunately, no one asks for the opinion of a certain "Cudgel". They register "Sputnik V" and do not know that they are being "forced".

Well, some European commissioner also considers Sputnik V to be "Putin's aggression"
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2. Cudgel
  
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  17 March 2021 17: 23
  Thank you for taking the trouble to copy the link from the RBC website. But I would also add this picture, from the same site and from the same article. It clearly shows that Sputnik 5 was registered for the most advanced countries.
Cyril

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17 March 2021 13: 55

Several EU countries (Austria, Italy, Denmark, etc.) stopped use of the AstraZeneca vaccine due to frequent deaths due to thrombosis after its use.

First, they did not stop, but suspended it.

Secondly, the "frequent cases of thrombosis" are as follows:

According to the EMA, as of March 10, only about 30 cases of thromboembolic events on 5 млн Europeans who received the vaccine.

That is, there are 1 cases of venous thrombosis per 6 million vaccinated. For reference, the same pulmonary artery thrombosis has an incidence of approximately 1 case per thousand of the population per year.

Suspension of AstroZeneka vaccine use is only a normal precaution taken pending a final determination as to whether the thrombosis is caused by the vaccine or just a chronological coincidence. This is a normal practice in countries with a developed quality control system for medical drugs.

The same Maron said that the use of the AstroZeneka vaccine will begin immediately after the EMA issues the relevant authorization after verification.

And already from this usual precautionary measure, the Russian media fanned some unthinkable scandal.
1. Alexzn
  
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  17 March 2021 14: 14
  
  It would be interesting to know the side of the satellite, but the chances of this ... People do not understand that if 5 million people drink a glass of tea, then ...
  1. Cyril
    
    -1
    
    17 March 2021 14: 20
    
    It would be interesting to know the side of the satellite, but the chances of this ...
    
    Well, recently there was a case when after vaccination of one of the Russian military personnel (and they are being vaccinated with Russian vaccines), paralysis of the legs occurred.
    
    https://www.mk.ru/social/2021/03/05/kirilla-paralizovalo-proyavilis-chetyre-problemy-vakcin-ot-koronavirusa.html
    
    https://7info.ru/world/19-letnego-smolenskogo-kursanta-paralizovalo-posle-privivki-ot-covid-19/
    
    I specially highlighted "after", because, unlike turbopatriots, I do not make an unambiguous causal relationship between this case and vaccination. Nevertheless, the very fact of illness of one of the vaccinated with the Russian vaccine is there.
    
    Turbopatriots, of course, will deny - they say, this is not a consequence of the vaccine itself. Despite the fact that cases of Bell's palsy are unambiguously called a side effect of "Pfizer".
    
    People do not understand that if 5 million people drink a glass of tea, then ...
    
    Exactly
2. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +3
  
  17 March 2021 14: 25
  
  Secondly, the "frequent cases of thrombosis" are as follows:
  According to the EMA, as of March 10, only 30 cases of thromboembolic events are known per 5 million Europeans who received the vaccine.
  
  That is, there are 1 cases of venous thrombosis per 6 million vaccinated.
  
  I would advise you not to rush to such conclusions.
  The fact is that severe side effects from "Astra" are observed just after the 2nd vaccination, and there are not so many of these "second" ones yet.
  In the EU, "Astra" received approval for use on 30.01,2020/6/3, and the re-vaccination (6 weeks according to the old installation .., today increased to XNUMX months!) Was to be carried out in XNUMX weeks.
  The data on the first severe "side effects" were taken from 10.03.2020/6/XNUMX, that is, just these XNUMX weeks after the first vaccination, which means that these are still quite a few cases of re-vaccination. (talking about hundreds / thousands).
  So 30 deaths out of a "couple of thousand" vaccinated, this is not at all such a "beautiful" statistic that you are trying to broadcast about here.
  It is no coincidence that many countries have "suspended" vaccination with this vaccine.
  1. Cyril
    
    -3
    
    17 March 2021 14: 32
    
    The fact is that severe side effects from "Astra" are observed just after the 2nd vaccination, and there are not so many of these "second" ones yet.
    
    Where does the data come from?
    
    So 30 deaths from "Couple of thousand" vaccinated, this is not at all such a "beautiful" statistic that you are trying to broadcast about here.
    
    Where does the data on the "couple of thousand" re-vaccinated come from?
    
    Until you answer these 2 questions, my statistics looks "prettier" than yours.
    
    It is no coincidence that many countries have "suspended" vaccination with this vaccine.
    
    They suspended it exactly until the link between the vaccine and cases of thrombosis was confirmed and refuted. Simple statistical analysis has not yet confirmed this connection. This is a common precaution.
3. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +2
  
  17 March 2021 14: 32
  
  For reference, the same pulmonary artery thrombosis has an incidence of approximately 1 case per thousand of the population per year.
  
  Please provide the source of your claims.
  I have different numbers: 15 cases per 1 million people.
  1. Cyril
    
    -3
    
    17 March 2021 14: 40
    
    I have different numbers: 15 cases per 1 million people.
    
    15 cases per 1 million people is still more often than 30 cases per 5 million people.
    1. Dear sofa expert.
      
      +2
      
      17 March 2021 14: 45
      
      15 cases per 1 million people is still more often than 30 cases per 5 million people.
      
      The first is for a year.
      The second - a few days after the 2nd vaccination. And the count of these "double vaccinated" is still in the thousands and not in the millions.
      Do you feel the difference?
      1. Cyril
        
        -2
        
        17 March 2021 14: 55
        
        So vaccination takes place in a shorter time compared to the incidence of pulmonary embolism.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        17 March 2021 15: 17
        
        So vaccination takes place in a shorter time compared to the incidence of pulmonary embolism.
        
        Irrelevant.
        Here and now - talk about the frequent cases of thrombosis directly related to the vaccination "Astra".
        That is - pulmonary embolism - usually 15 cases per 1 million people / year.
        And here, in a short time, and immediately after repeated vaccination - dozens of cases, from several thousand people,
        in a couple of days. The number is growing.
        More than 20 countries have already "suspended" vaccination with "Astroy".
        
        Cyril
        
        -2
        
        17 March 2021 15: 43
        
        Irrelevant.
        
        How does it not have? You literally made a comment back and focused on the time factor.
        
        That is - pulmonary embolism - usually 15 cases per 1 million people / year.
        
        First, more often. from 35 to 65 cases per 100000 people, that is, 1-350 cases per 650 million.
        
        Secondly, thromboembolism is a consequence, a syndrome. That is, it is necessary to compare the frequency of diseases that lead to thromboembolism with the frequency of vaccinations, which presumably leads to a similar syndrome.
        
        And here, in a short time, and immediately after re-vaccination - dozens of cases, from several thousand people,
        in a couple of days. The number is growing
        
        First, as of March 15 in Europe, complete (that is, two-component) vaccination was completed:
        
        - 1,5 million Britons;
        
        - 2,7 million Germans;
        
        - 2,2 million French;
        
        - 2 million Italians.
        
        In other words, about 8,5 million people have been revaccinated in key European countries.
        
        Data from here - https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-56400487
        
        With AstroZeneka being the second most widely used vaccine in Europe after Pfizer, many more people have received the second dose than you might imagine.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 17: 32
        
        First, as of March 15 in Europe, complete (that is, two-component) vaccination was completed:
        
        - 1,5 million Britons;
        
        - 2,7 million Germans;
        
        - 2,2 million French;
        
        - 2 million Italians.
        
        In other words, about 8,5 million people have been revaccinated in key European countries.
        
        Data from here - https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-56400487
        
        With AstroZeneka being the second most widely used vaccine in Europe after Pfizer, many more people have received the second dose than you might imagine.
        
        8,5 (not tested, but let's take) million is the total number of 2 times vaccinated.
        I will not speak for GB, they have their own theme. Maybe they started vaccination with this "Astra" earlier than the Europeans. I don’t know what exactly, and how they are being forced there. I read that there, at first, in general, neither the correct dosages, nor the terms, did not really stand up.
        
        Not for them the conversation.
        
        For EC - these numbers are millions of 2x vaccinations with anything (BP, Moderna), but not "Astroy".
        As I said, “Astra” was given EU approval for the last of these three, namely on January 30.01.2020, 30.01,2020. That is, the first vaccination was apparently delivered on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. Count the weeks and you will go out to the present days when you really could have vaccinated her a second time. Well, plus - minus a week. So, a priori, there can be no question of millions vaccinated with a double dose of this "Astra".
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        17 March 2021 18: 07
        
        I will not speak for GB, they have their own theme. Maybe they started vaccination with this "Astra" earlier than the Europeans.
        
        Yes, in Britain, Astra received admission a month earlier. And somehow an increased number of cases of thromboembolism is not observed there.
        
        The recommended interval between doses according to WHO data is 8-12 weeks, or 2-3 months. Let's take 2 months. Add 30 months to January 2 - you get March 30. Today is only March 17. This is a difference of almost half a month.
        
        That is, according to your calculations, no one has yet received the second dose. So where does the data about side effects after 2 doses come from? And why do they occur after 2 doses, and not after the first? The substance is the same.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        17 March 2021 21: 10
        
        That is, according to your calculations, no one has yet received the second dose. So where does the data about side effects after 2 doses come from? And why do they occur after 2 doses, and not after the first? The substance is the same.
        
        Yes, the recommended (today) interval is 3 months. But at first it was less, and was - "from 4x to 6 weeks." Therefore, some people have already received the 2nd dose.
        
        As for the side effects after the second dose, this concerns not only Astra, but also BP. In any case, they write about it based on the results of observations. Why, more side effects after the second dose - this is probably due to the production of antibodies. Indeed, in principle, side effects, in themselves, are not a negative sign. On the contrary. They just show that the body is responding to the vaccine.
        Another question is how harmless this reaction is. Until it caused serious (unacceptable) consequences, in the form of some kind of anaphylactic shock (BP, Moderna), or thrombosis, like from Astra, then there is nothing wrong with that.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 21: 17
        
        So where does the data about side effects after 2 doses come from?
        
        If you are really interested, then here is the German official statistics for side effects after the first and second vaccinations (BP and Moderna).
        
        I can search for "Astra" (but you can try it yourself).
        
        https://amp.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/corona-impfstoff-nebenwirkung-zweite-dosis-100.html
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        17 March 2021 22: 10
        
        And there is no need to search - the article says:
        
        For comparison, according to the results of the study, reactions to vaccination with the vector vaccine Astrazeneca are somewhat less common. “The Permanent Commission on Vaccinations also received additional information from the manufacturer, which shows that the frequency of local and systemic reactions was lower after the 2nd dose than after the 1st dose," explains RKI.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        17 March 2021 22: 19
        
        it is written:
        
        For comparison, according to the results of the study, reactions to vaccination with the vector vaccine Astrazeneca are somewhat less common.
        
        Well, of course, at that time it was.
        
        Article from 13.02.2020
        At that time, “Astra” had just started to be put on, and this was the first dose for anybody. Therefore, "less often".
        
        Cyril, you are again doing your cheap bullshit, trying to catch me on some kind of garbage.
        This is shallow and makes you just an unpleasant conversationalist.
        Again, I will stop answering your nonsense.
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        17 March 2021 22: 22
        
        Article from 13.02.2020
        At that time, “Astra” had just started to be put on, and this was the first dose for anybody. Therefore, "less often".
        
        Reread the quoted passage again. I will specially highlight the key points for you:
        
        The Permanent Commission on Vaccinations has also received additional information from the manufacturer, which shows that the incidence of local and systemic reactions was lower. after 2nd dosethan after the 1st "
        
        It is not my fault that you are reading selectively and did not see about the 2nd dose of the vaccine.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 22: 34
        
        received additional information from the manufacturer,
        
        And it’s not my fault that you don’t see the keywords in your highlighted phrase:
        
        ... received additional information from the manufacturer ...
        
        Don't you really understand this?)
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        17 March 2021 22: 48
        
        Hinting that the data is fake? This "argument" is from the category of conjectures and unsubstantiated statements.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 22: 58
        
        Hinting that the data is fake?
        
        Notice I didn't say that. This is your guess.
        I didn't even mean it.
        What I mean is that statistics on the fact of vaccination in a particular country (I gave an example with Germany) is not the same thing as there are test statistics from the manufacturer.
        One is theory on paper. (You can interpret as you like)
        The other is the "operational situation on the battlefield," so to speak. This is what it is - the truth that we are looking for.
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        17 March 2021 23: 23
        
        One is theory on paper. (You can interpret as you like)
        The other is the "operational situation on the battlefield," so to speak. This is what it is - the truth that we are looking for.
        
        and the passage I quoted does not say that "manufacturer data" included only test results. Let me remind you that the vaccine against "Astra" in Britain was registered and began to be used in the vaccination of the British population earlier than in the EU. The manufacturer, of course, studied these data as well.
        
        You talk about specific countries and you cite Germany as an example, but there is also an example from Great Britain / The regulator of this country has not noted any cases of thrombosis after using Astra.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 23: 59
        
        You talk about specific countries and cite Germany as an example, but there is also an example from Great Britain / The regulator of this country has not noted any cases of thrombosis after using "Astra"
        
        I told you right away that I do not have information on GB.
        In addition, if you believe the official statistics, then you cannot believe their words there at all.
        
        With 26.503.552 vaccinations delivered, only 2,5% are fully vaccinated
        
        How shoud I understand this???
        
        It turns out that they almost never give the second vaccination?
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        17 March 2021 21: 53
        
        With AstroZeneka being the second most widely used vaccine in Europe after Pfizer, many more people have received the second dose than you might imagine.
        
        I am not trying to "imagine" anything. I always say what I have read, not what I thought of myself.
        Here is a completely official German statistics on vaccines and side effects from these vaccines as of February 28, 2020.
        
        astrazeneca:
        on 363.645 vaccinations 69 severe reactions.
        
        Biontech / Pfizer:
        for 5.378.703 vaccinations - 1.705 severe reactions.
        
        Moderna: for 168.189 vaccinations, 107 severe reactions.
        
        At the same time, make sure how much and what was delivered.
        
        https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/corona-impfstoff-astrazeneca-check-100.html
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        17 March 2021 22: 20
        
        Firstly, this is data from half a month ago.
        
        Secondly, from the same data it can be seen that the number of severe adverse reactions in Astrazeneka is less than that of the same Modern and Pfazer
        
        Again. Firstly, it has not been established that cases of thrombosis are a consequence of the vaccination with "Astra".
        
        Secondly, even if all cases of thrombosis, which are now identified after vaccination with "Astra", are caused precisely by the vaccine, their number is statistically low.
        
        About the time factor. Your article says:
        
        Ulrich Sachs from the University Hospital Giessen and Marburg, who specializes in blood clotting, made a similar statement to ZDFheute: “If the vaccine is given very often over a short period of time, everything happens in a close context, which also happens in everyday life. : strokes, heart attacks ". However, these diseases are normal in some way and not necessarily vaccine related..
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 22: 29
        
        Firstly, this is data from half a month ago.
        
        Moreover.)) Today there are more such cases for "half a month".
        
        Secondly, from the same data it can be seen that the number of severe adverse reactions in Astrazeneka is less than that of the same Modern and Pfazer
        
        No one disputed which of them had more. Just facts.
        As for me, Pfizer is exactly the same rubbish as "Astra" (and maybe worse because of mRNA).
        
        Again. Firstly, it has not been established that cases of thrombosis are a consequence of the vaccination with "Astra".
        Secondly, even if all cases of thrombosis, which are now identified after vaccination with "Astra", are caused precisely by the vaccine, their number is statistically low.
        
        This was enough for today 20 countries to refuse (temporarily?) To make this vaccine. I have something to do with it. They know better.
        
        About the time factor. Your article says:
        Ulrich Sachs from the University Hospital Giessen and Marburg, who specializes in blood clotting, made a similar statement to ZDFheute: “If the vaccine is given very frequently over a short period of time
        
        Nobody objects to this. Apparently, therefore, the interval was increased from 4-6 weeks to 3 months.
        
        Will it help? - the question is still open.
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        17 March 2021 23: 02
        
        Moreover.)) Today there are more such cases for "half a month".
        
        As well as the number of vaccinated
        
        No one disputed which of them had more. Just facts.
        
        So the fact is that there are fewer severe reactions from "Astra"
        
        As for me, Pfizer is exactly the same rubbish as "Astra" (and maybe worse because of mRNA).
        
        And then what is "not rubbish"?)
        
        This was enough for today 20 countries to refuse (temporarily?) To make this vaccine.
        
        in most of these countries the use of "Astra" was suspended after a single case of thrombosis in a vaccinated person. This is a simple precaution and does not say anything about the danger / safety of the vaccine. The EMA and WHO argue that there is no reason to suspend vaccination, but the national ministries of health themselves have the right to decide whether to suspend the use of the vaccine or not. In some countries they were suspended, in some they continued.
        
        Nobody objects to this. Apparently, therefore, the interval was increased from 4-6 weeks to 3 months.
        
        He was not talking about re-dose, but about vaccination as such.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 23: 07
        
        And then what is "not rubbish"?)
        
        If you are interested in my opinion, then of all the vaccines I know of, I would bet on the Russian vaccine from the Center. Chumakov, German Curevac - he is also on the way, well, let's see what Johnson-Johnson shows (he has an advantage - it is placed one-time).
        
        Cyril
        
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        17 March 2021 23: 12
        
        Strangely, the German Curevac vaccine is based on the same "messenger RNA" technology as Pfizer, but you call the latter rubbish and the former not.
        
        Well, for all the vaccines you mentioned, there is no data on real safety, so it is not yet possible to judge how "rubbish" or "not rubbish" they are.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        17 March 2021 23: 49
        
        German vaccine Curevac is based on the same "messenger RNA" technology as "Pfizer"
        
        Well, on the same one, but not quite.
        As promised, Curevac uses a modified, natural mRNA, so the induction of an immune response from this vaccine is ensured, firstly, by a lower content of this mRNA than PB / Moderna, plus, its (induction) can be compared to natural infection from Covid 19. In addition, this company has 20 years of experience with this technology. In my opinion, this is not enough.
        
        Well, for all the vaccines you mentioned, there is no data on real safety, so it is not yet possible to judge how "rubbish" or "not rubbish" they are.
        
        For Johnson, I indicated the advantage - one-time vaccination.
        
        According to Chumakov, it is a decades-old technology for creating and using such vaccines. Speaks for itself.
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        18 March 2021 08: 21
        
        modified, natural mRNA,
        
        So modified or natural? And how does "natural" differ from "artificial" in terms of biochemistry?
        
        plus, it (induction) can be compared to a natural infection from Covid 19.
        
        That is, this vaccine will cause side effects comparable to the negative effects of the disease itself? And what is the safety here?
        
        For Johnson, I indicated the advantage - one-time vaccination.
        According to Chumakov, it is a decades-old technology for creating and using such vaccines. Speaks for itself.
        
        Both of these arguments say nothing about the safety of these particular vaccines.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        18 March 2021 10: 13
        
        So modified or natural? And how does "natural" differ from "artificial" in terms of biochemistry?
        
        Modified, of natural origin. Is it so incomprehensible?
        
        And at Biontech / Pfizer, Moderna is artificially synthesized.
        
        Guess the difference yourself.
        
        That is, this vaccine will cause side effects comparable to the negative effects of the disease itself? And what is the safety here?
        
        This is exactly the whole point of vaccines - to induce a reaction comparable to the symptoms of the disease.
        
        But the "side effects" in the form of thrombosis, (Astra), and ALLERGIC REACTIONS (BP, Moderna) - they are just undesirable.
        
        The less these "side effects", the safer the vaccine.
        
        It is believed that BP / Moderna often causes allergic reactions, precisely because of the use of artificial (synthetically produced) mRNA.
        CureVac does not work with artificial - but with natural, modified mRNA, which does not cause (in their experience) an allergic reaction, thus making the vaccine safer.
        
        So they say.
        
        And I, personally for myself, are waiting for the result.
        
        What do you want from me? Me to what??)
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        18 March 2021 14: 48
        
        Modified, of natural origin. Is it so incomprehensible?
        
        Of course, it is not clear, because if the modification affected, for example, up to 80-90% of this RNA, then the cat cried because of the "naturalness".
        
        Guess the difference yourself.
        
        So you don't know them?
        
        This is exactly the whole point of vaccines - to induce a reaction comparable to the symptoms of the disease.
        
        No, that's not the point of vaccines. If your vaccine against rabies, for example, causes symptoms comparable to rabies, the patient will die.
        
        The point of any vaccine is to induce an immune response. The fact that some vaccines cause symptoms of the disease itself is just a side effect. That is why nowadays, live or simple inactivated vaccines are rarely used, although they give the reaction that is closest to the symptoms of the disease.
        
        But the "side effects" in the form of thrombosis, (Astra), and ALLERGIC REACTIONS (BP, Moderna) - they are just undesirable.
        
        the allergic reactions that you identified with such an emotional capsule are characteristic not only of these vaccines, but also of vaccines made on the basis of more traditional technologies. For example, the same vector Sputnik-5 or the Chinese Sinovac, which because of this is not recommended or is recommended with caution to inject allergy sufferers.
        
        It is believed that BP / Moderna often causes allergic reactions, precisely because of the use of artificial (synthetically produced) mRNA.
        CureVac does not work with artificial - but with natural, modified mRNA, which does not cause (in their experience) an allergic reaction, thus making the vaccine safer.
        
        This marketing move on the opposition of supposedly safer "organic" and supposedly more harmful "artificial" has been used since the invention of genetically modified products. True, in practice, genetically modified foods are many times safer than "natural" ones, but who cares about that :)
        
        What do you want from me? Me to what??)
        
        Did I say somewhere that I want something from you?
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 23: 11
        
        in most of these countries the use of "Astra" was suspended after a single case of thrombosis in a vaccinated person.
        
        Come on already. There are statistics for other countries as well. I got bored with arguing with you about anything.
        I'm going to rest.
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        17 March 2021 23: 14
        
        Come on already. There are statistics for other countries as well. I got bored with arguing with you about anything.
        
        Yes, and these statistics do not yet give any reason to believe that the Astra vaccine poses an increased danger. Both the WHO and the EMA speaks about this.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        17 March 2021 23: 55
        
        Yes, and these statistics do not yet give any reason to believe that the Astra vaccine poses an increased danger. Both the WHO and the EMA speaks about this.
        
        So put it on yourself and your family. And I will wait until I see the effect of the three I have listed.
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        18 March 2021 08: 18
        
        So put it on yourself and your family.
        
        The "argument" of the nursery level :)
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        18 March 2021 10: 16
        
        So put it on yourself and your family.
        
        The "argument" of the nursery level :)
        
        Sorry, I was just trying to adjust to the level of your powerful intellect, which you have enough, only to ask your narrow-minded questions.
        
        Cyril
        
        -3
        
        18 March 2021 13: 55
        
        What's in this fact
        
        Yes, and these statistics do not yet give any reason to believe that the Astra vaccine poses an increased danger. Both the WHO and the EMA speaks about this.
        
        is relevant to your asylum comment?)
  2. Cyril
    
    -3
    
    17 March 2021 14: 43
    
    http://kb51.ru/pdf/tela.PDF
    
    and here - https://www.cochrane.org/ru/CD010019/PVD_ambulatornoe-lechenie-v-sravnenii-s-stacionarnym-lecheniem-pri-ostroy-tromboembolii-legochnoy
    
    It is generally said here that:
    
    Pulmonary embolism (PE) is the third most common life-threatening cardiovascular disease worldwide. Registered annually 23 to 69 new cases of pulmonary embolism per 100000 population.
    1. Dear sofa expert.
      
      +2
      
      17 March 2021 15: 20
      
      among the most common life-threatening cardiovascular diseases
      
      Keywords.
      But this does not really matter in our discussion.
      1. Cyril
        
        -3
        
        17 March 2021 15: 33
        
        How does it not have? In our discussion, we are talking about the comparative statistics of thrombosis after vaccination and within the population as a whole.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 15: 39
        
        How does it not have? In our discussion, we are talking about the comparative statistics of thrombosis after vaccination and within the population as a whole.
        
        Precisely because the comparison is not in your favor.
        The disease is in the usual form, statistically hundreds of times less common than after the use of the vaccine.
        In the first case - tens per million people per year
        In the second case, tens of thousands of people in a matter of days.
        And the cases keep growing.
        
        Cyril
        
        -2
        
        17 March 2021 15: 44
        
        In the second case, tens of thousands of people in a matter of days.
        
        Lying. There are already much more vaccinated ones.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        17 March 2021 17: 40
        
        In the second case, tens of thousands of people in a matter of days.
        
        Lying. There are already much more vaccinated ones.
        
        I gave you my reasons. A little math, and you will also be able to reach not millions, but thousands (or maybe even hundreds).
Alexzn

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17 March 2021 14: 46

From what we see in open sources, Pfizer talcum powder in Israel has systemic reliable open statistics. And she's encouraging.
There is no guarantee that when using a satellite in Europe, we will not receive a wave of information about a side effect, real and imaginary. At the beginning, the pfizer also received information that it was strychnine poured into bubbles.
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2. Natan bruk
  
  -1
  
  17 March 2021 16: 52
  
  And so it was. Now the Russian media are silent about Pfizer like a fish on ice, because for the same Israel, for example, there are exhaustive statistics and it completely refutes the horror films that these media stuffed their readers with. Now they focused on Astra Zeneka.
3. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +3
  
  22 March 2021 12: 55
  
  From what we see in open sources, Pfizer talcum powder in Israel has systemic reliable open statistics. And she's encouraging.
  
  Happy for you. Read it, maybe it will lead you to thoughts.)
  
  https://www.amp/s/m.jpost.com/breaking-news/pfizer-ceos-israel-visit-cancelled-because-he-is-unvaccinated-report-661100/amp
Vladest

-2

17 March 2021 14: 58

According to more complete information in the Russian Federation, the excess mortality in the Russian Federation in 2020 is more than 300 people. Against this background, another question arises in contrast to the title of this article. Why is the mortality rate from COVID000 higher in the Russian Federation than elsewhere in the world? but there, instead of treating their own people, they are treating all and sundry, but not their own.
1. kapitan92
  
  +3
  
  17 March 2021 20: 06
  
  Quote: Vladest
  According to more complete information in the Russian Federation, the excess mortality in the Russian Federation in 2020 is more than 300 people. Against this background, another question arises in contrast to the title of this article. Why is the mortality rate from COVID000 higher in the Russian Federation than elsewhere in the world? but there, instead of treating their own people, they are treating all and sundry, but not their own.
  
  The source of your numbers is very interesting. You keep forgetting to specify it in your "accusatory" posts.
  1. Vladest
    
    -4
    
    17 March 2021 21: 30
    
    The pandemic is not over yet. And "Chickens are counted in Autumn". As known. In the Russian Federation there is a funny death rate. He died for another reason, suffering from COVOD19 .... And this is every 3-4 deceased. You draw whatever you want in your home, but you cannot cover all the sources of information about the disease.
    
    Russia became one of the leaders among the countries of Europe and the G20 in excess mortality during a pandemic. Such data are given in the report on the RF by the International Monetary Fund.
    IMF experts refer to the official statistics of Rosstat for January-November, according to which the number of deaths in the country increased by 286 thousand people and amounted to 1,881 million.
    
    Note especially. They refer to the sources of the Russian Federation itself
    1. kapitan92
      
      0
      
      17 March 2021 21: 52
      
      Quote: Vladest
      The pandemic is not over yet. And "Chickens are counted in Autumn". As known.
      
      It is a fact!
      
      Quote: Vladest
      "Russia became one of the leaders among the countries of Europe and the G20 in excess mortality during a pandemic. Such data are given in the report on the Russian Federation by the International Monetary Fund..
      
      It's good that it's not "Armenian radio".
      
      Quote: Vladest
      IMF experts refer to the official statistics of Rosstat for January-November, according to which the number of deaths in the country increased by 286 thousand people and amounted to 1,881 million. "
      
      We expect from you the very link to the official statistics of Rosstat.
      
      Quote: Vladest
      Note especially. They refer to the sources of the Russian Federation itself
      
      Noted! Give these sources !!!
      For you! Yes, and do not read the IMF Reports at night.
      The data is updated automatically every 30 minutes. Sources - Ministry of Health, Operations Headquarters, WHO, Johns Hopkins University. Statistics updated today, 17.03.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX.
      
      The spread of coronavirus in the world
      
      Country Cases total Per 1 inhabitants Cases today Total deaths Deaths per day Recovered
      1. USA 29549554 89.6 +54132 536922 +1294 0
      2. Brazil 11603535 54.6 +83926 282127 +2841 10261154
      3. India 11438734 8.3 +28903 159044 +188 11045284
      4. Russia 4418436 30.2 +8998 93364 +427 4024975
      5. UK 4282203 64.3 +5363 125927 +110 12013
      6. France 4168411 60.5 +36307 91324 +400 282152
      7. Italy 3258770 54.1 +20376 103001 +502 2619654
      8. Spain 3200024 68.2 +4962 72565 +141 150376
      9. Türkiye 2911642 35 +16749 29623 +71 2734862
      10. Germany 2603064 31.3 +16218 73968 +266 2387232
      11. Colombia 2309600 47.9 +3716 61368 +125 2209224
      12. Argentina 2210121 49.2 +8235 54036 +200 1998594
      13. Mexico 2169007 17 +1278 195119 +175 1716135
      14. Poland 1956974 51.1 +39447 48032 +826 1593165
      15. Iran 1763313 20.8 +8380 61427 +97 1506360
      16.+1 Ukraine 1538516 37.1 +11921 30535 +296 1283215
      17.-1 South Africa 1530966 27.9 +933 51560 +139 1458001
      18. Indonesia 1437283 5.4 +6825 38915 +162 1266673
      19.+1 Czech Republic 1426991 133.4 +14029 23902 +245 1215077
      20.-1 Peru 1418974 44.1 +0 49177 +0 1329788
      21. The Netherlands 1183567 67.5 +5066 16251 +33 15055
      22. Canada 921263 23.9 +2855 22509 +25 867542
      23. Chile 900782 45.3 +4551 21789 +17 845712
      24. Romania 868799 44.8 +6118 21698 +133 787392
      25. Israel 823314 90.1 +1552 6051 +14 791105
      26. Portugal 814897 79.3 +384 16707 +13 762961
      27. Belgium 813026 70.8 +3165 22572 +27 0
      28. Iraq 768352 19.5 +5267 13827 +39 695184
      29. Sweden 725289 70.3 +12762 13172 +26 0
      30. Philippines 635698 5.8 +4378 12866 +18 561099
      31. Pakistan 612315 2.8 +2351 13656 +61 575867
      32. Switzerland 575253 67.1 +1438 10147 +29 317600
      33. Bangladesh 560887 3.3 +1719 8597 +26 514479
      34. Hungary 532578 54.5 +3456 17421 +195 359061
      35. Serbia 526112 76 +5201 4778 +31 0
      36. Austria 501224 56.2 +5760 8956 +64 463714
      37.+1 Jordan 495380 46 +8910 5497 +69 406654
      38.-1 Morocco 489622 13.5 +526 8737 +4 476727
      39. Japan 450615 3.6 +1931 8718 +76 428627
      40. United Arab Emirates 432364 44.2 +4069 1414 +12 413477
      41. Lebanon 423433 61.8 +3480 5474 +52 333648
      42. Saudi Arabia 383106 11.2 +354 6578 +5 373130
      43. Panama 348580 92.6 +425 6009 +4 337010
      44. Slovakia 342430 62.8 +4470 8738 +69 255300
      45. Malaysia 327253 9.9 +2282 1220 +7 310958
      46. Belarus 304146 32.3 +876 2112 +9 294878
      47. Ecuador 302854 17.2 +356 16259 +19 263164
      48. Bulgaria 287568 41.4 +4374 11579 +107 228816
      49.+1 Kazakhstan 276663 13.8 +1161 3196 +0 253502
      50.-1 Georgia 276067 74.1 +382 3665 +7 269006
      51. Nepal 275424 9.6 +114 3014 +0 271495
      52. Bolivia 260988 22.8 +929 11997 +23 206586
      53. Croatia 253310 62.1 +2136 5709 +24 242111
      54. Dominican Republic 246794 23 +495 3237 +11 203070
      55. Tunisia 242673 20.8 +549 8429 +25 209755
      56. Azerbaijan 241651 24 +980 3298 +12 231370
      57. Ireland 227663 46.3 +347 4552 +18 23364
      58. Greece 223789 20.8 +1508 7196 +59 93764
      59. Denmark 222534 38.6 +771 2396 +2 211416
      60. Palestine 213791 44.4 +2189 2314 +21 189759
      61. Kuwait 212169 50.4 +1314 1186 +7 196821
      62. Costa Rica 210447 42.5 +1354 2886 +24 189682
      63.+1 Moldova 207012 58.4 +1688 4402 +33 180763
      64.-1 Lithuania 206889 74.1 +599 3427 +11 192484
      65. Slovenia 202573 95.7 +1994 3948 +10 188315
      66. Egypt 192195 1.9 +640 11384 +44 148089
      67. Guatemala 183985 10.4 +971 6599 +21 169149
      68. Paraguay 183348 25.6 +1934 3554 +37 152280
      69. Armenia 180141 60.8 +854 3282 +5 166913
      70. Honduras 179515 19.6 +590 4373 +13 68892
      71. Ethiopia 178108 1.6 +1490 2573 +18 144488
      72. Qatar 171212 62.2 +479 268 +1 158853
      73. Nigeria 161074 0.8 +179 2018 +2 146072
      74. Oman 148558 36.3 +1135 1617 +8 137544
      75.+1 Libya 147121 21.7 +1041 2406 +4 133768
      76.-1 Venezuela 147028 4.5 +540 1451 +7 138411
      77. Bosnia and Herzegovina 146437 41.7 +1606 5637 +53 122107
      78. Myanmar 142162 2.6 +15 3203 +1 131744
      79. Bahrain 132369 91.2 +686 487 +2 125503
      80. Albania 118492 41.6 +475 2077 +17 81810
      81. Algiers 115540 2.7 +130 3045 +5 80103
      82. Kenya 115031 2.4 +1064 1925 +7 88781
      83. North Macedonia 113929 54.8 +999 3364 +24 98676
      84. China 101443 0.1 +22 4839 +0 96087
      85. South Korea 96849 1.9 +469 1686 +8 88814
      86. Latvia 95420 50 +1461 1789 +20 85465
      87.+3 Estonia 89331 67.2 +3245 745 +17 60743
      88.-1 Sri Lanka 88392 4.1 +154 532 +0 84969
      89.-1 Ghana 88228 2.9 +243 698 +7 83829
      90.-1 Kyrgyzstan 87045 13.3 +55 1485 +1 83980
      91. Zambia 85240 4.8 +290 1167 +3 82432
      92. Montenegro 84700 136.1 +537 1151 +15 74852
      93. Norway 82455 14.8 +1150 641 +1 17998
      94. Uzbekistan 80858 2.3 +115 622 +0 79450
      95. Kosovo 78340 41.1 +553 1723 +8 65596
      96. Uruguay 73770 21.6 +908 725 +8 62584
      97. Finland 67851 12.3 +517 801 +1 46000
      98. Mozambique 64929 2.1 +413 732 +7 50844
      99.+1 Cuba 62998 5.6 +792 376 +3 58610
      100.-1 El Salvador 62531 9.7 +154 1962 +8 59576
      101. Singapore 60137 10.5 +9 30 +0 59984
      102. Luxembourg 58111 94.7 +185 697 +4 54528
      103. Afghanistan 55995 1.7 +10 2460 +1 49536
      104. Namibia 41466 16.6 +42 474 +9 38793
      105. Cameroon 40622 1.7 +0 601 +0 35261
      106. Uganda 40593 1 +2 334 +0 15099
      107. Cyprus 40344 46.1 +475 241 +1 2057
      108. Ivory Coast 38120 1.5 +212 214 +1 35111
      109. Senegal 37062 1.9 +66 981 +3 33047
      110. Zimbabwe 36535 2.5 +31 1507 +3 34124
      111. Botswana 34999 15.2 +0 447 +0 29916
      112. Malawi 32894 1.9 +30 1088 +4 26890
      113. Jamaica 31907 11.7 +602 494 +2 15371
      114. Sudan 30989 0.7 +116 1959 +0 23583
      115. Australia 29154 1.1 +17 909 +0 22960
      116. Thailand 27402 0.4 +248 88 +1 26339
      117. Democratic Republic of the Congo 27100 5 +23 722 +5 23759
      118. Malta 27061 54.8 +313 357 +3 23591
      119. Maldives 21819 54.3 +153 64 +0 19342
      120. Madagascar 21688 0.8 +101 335 +1 20614
      121. Angola 21446 0.7 +39 522 +1 19971
      122. Rwanda 20412 1.7 +110 282 +0 18804
      123. Guinea 17982 1.4 +131 104 +1 15719
      124. Mauritania 17487 4.8 +30 444 +0 16806
      125. Eswatini 17243 15 +4 663 +0 15841
      126. Gabon 16945 7.8 +0 101 +0 14780
      127. Syria 16656 1 +100 1110 +6 11141
      128. Cape Verde 16154 29.4 +34 157 +1 15549
      129. Tajikistan 13308 1.5 +0 90 +0 13218
      130. Haiti 12664 1.2 +32 250 +0 10204
      131. Belize 12389 31.9 +6 316 +0 12010
      132. Burkina Faso 12378 0.6 +0 144 +0 11974
      133. Andorra 11319 148.6 +30 113 +0 10861
      134. Lesotho 10530 5.2 +0 309 +0 3922
      135. South Sudan 9613 0.9 +0 106 +0 7906
      136.+1 Somalia 9437 0.6 +109 385 +6 4306
      137.-1 Republic of the Congo 9329 1.7 +0 131 +0 7514
      138. Guyana 9238 11.5 +51 208 +1 8359
      139. Suriname 9034 15.5 +6 176 +0 8528
      
      Unfortunately, the system does not skip the entire table.
      https://koronavirustoday.ru/info/koronavirus-tablicza-po-stranam-mira-na-segodnya/.
      1. Alexzn
        
        -1
        
        18 March 2021 10: 02
        
        1. There is indeed a noticeable discrepancy between the statistics of mortality from coronavirus and excess mortality in general. The 13% rise in excess deaths over the past year (from Golikova's report) is highly suspicious, with low death rates from the corona.
        2. The incidence rate is not a synthetic indicator. Israel is in 25th place in infectiousness, and in mortality at the end of the first hundred. The infectivity indicator does not make sense at all without indicating the number of tests performed and the percentage of those identified.
        3. There are very few countries whose statistics can be trusted. Russia is not one of those.
      2. Vladest
        
        -3
        
        18 March 2021 11: 19
        
        You are breaking the rules of the forum by publishing full texts of articles.
        Highlight the Main. I could already write to the administrators twice on you.
        Learn to work with INFOMATION !!
        How will you read or analyze all this heap?
        Don't litter the forum
        
        kapitan92
        
        +1
        
        18 March 2021 13: 02
        
        Quote: Vladest
        You are breaking the rules of the forum by publishing full texts of articles.
        
        What nonsense is this? I gave you a link to the article, study it. The table is different.
        
        Quote: Vladest
        I could already write to the administrators twice on you.
        
        Write, I will be grateful to you.
        
        Quote: Vladest
        How will you read or analyze all this heap?
        
        Probably those who are tired of your Russophobia and idle chatter!
        
        Quote: Vladest
        Don't litter the forum
        
        Self-criticism is at your best.
        
        Vladest
        
        -3
        
        18 March 2021 13: 31
        
        The only thing left is to ask a Russian about Russophobia)))) Are you so sure that all Russians are ready to lick the "F" of the authorities, or do you decide that the Russian is good or that the Russian is right? Lick you but do not think that everyone is doing this.
        You are a MINOR ...
        
        kapitan92
        
        +2
        
        18 March 2021 13: 39
        
        Quote: Vladest
        MINORITY ...
        
        Russian - Estonian spill! Is written "minority"
        This is for the future, when once again you will spew bile towards Russia.
amateur

+3

17 March 2021 19: 24

Quote: Cudgel
Thank you for taking the trouble to copy the link from the RBC website. But I would also add this picture, from the same site and from the same article. It can be clearly seen on it what are the most advanced countries registered a bodyagu called "Sputinik 5".

“All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others "(Eng." All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others ")
(J. Orwell)

And by what criteria does someone "Dubina" define the "advancedness of countries"? By the degree of "tolerance", Russophobia or a pan-head?
Binder

-3

17 March 2021 22: 00

Horror stories about some terrible side effects among people vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine, widely published today in Russia, are the fruit of a morbid fantasy of some stupid propagandists, they replaced the same horror stories that were previously spread about the side effects of the Pfizer vaccine. Today it is already clear to everyone that there are no serious problems with Pfizer - AstraZeneca has begun to mock. Only all this noise is meaningless, not only the Europeans are suspicious of Sputnik, but also the Russians themselves, and why there - the Russian president is somehow in no hurry to be vaccinated with the Russian vaccine. And I understand him, I remember the phrase of Professor Preobrazhensky:

God knows what they threw in there. Can you tell them what comes to their minds?

The story "Heart of a Dog" was written almost a hundred years ago, but how relevant it is!
Vladest

-4

18 March 2021 11: 35

Today Euronews:

Vaccine Sputnik V is a good vaccine

Who is lying or the author of the article or?
The EU is already using 4 vaccines to save the lives of its citizens. SputnikV will also accept it when all the recognition procedures have been completed.
What they write:

"RDIF filed an application for registration of the Sputnik V vaccine in the European Union on January 29, 2021 and launched the process of submitting information to the European Medicines Agency EMA through a rolling review procedure."

Bureaucracy at work.
As in the Russian Federation with the fact that someone else's vaccines to take? Or is it better to kill thousands, but be the FIRST and ONLY. ?
In Estonia, 11% of the population has already been vaccinated .. How is Russia against it? And there is only the Scale of the territory)))
1. kapitan92
  
  +2
  
  18 March 2021 13: 20
  
  Quote: Vladest
  In Estonia, 11% of the population has already been vaccinated .. How is Russia against it? And there is only the Scale of the territory)))
  
  Population "proud and independent" Estonian 1320000 people 1250000 people live in Nizhny Novgorod.
  11% of your population, 145 thousand people are vaccinated in Estonia.
  Vaccination statistics in Russia
  Statistics of vaccination against coronavirus COVID-19 in Russia for today (18.03.)
  
  8 (302% of the population) - all vaccinations were made against coronavirus.
  2 people - vaccinated against coronavirus (first and second components).
  Average data for the last week:
  
  69 people per day (875% of the population) - the average number of people vaccinated against coronavirus per day.
  157 095 - average number of vaccinations (first and second) per day
  https://stop-coronavirus-ru.ru/skolko-chelovek-privito-ot-koronavirusa-v-rossii-na-18-marta/
  I sincerely wish all the "Baltic sisters" well-being and prosperity!
  1. Vladest
    
    -3
    
    18 March 2021 13: 24
    
    Quote: kapitan92
    The population of "proud and independent" Estonia is 1320000. 1250000 people live in Nizhny Novgorod.
    
    If you respected went to SCHOOL then you should know what PERCENTAGE is. The percentage of the size does not matter.
    If in the Russian Federation the population is 111 times more than in Estonia, then the vaccinations should also be 111 times more.
    Is this clear to the stupid?
    But alas in the Russian Federation and 5% is not. And we write off the dead from Covid to "other diseases" ...
    1. kapitan92
      
      +3
      
      18 March 2021 13: 30
      
      Quote: Vladest
      If you respected went to SCHOOL
      
      Quote: Vladest
      Is this clear to the stupid?
      
      Lack of arguments - breeds rudeness.