Deadly Russophobia: Europeans are dying, not daring to buy a Russian vaccine


A covid pandemic is sweeping across the planet, and to date, about 2,6 million people have died from this disease worldwide. Leading countries are creating vaccines, and Russian scientists did not stand aside, having developed the Sputnik V drug, which has proven its high efficiency. However, the excessive politicization in the issue of vaccination, according to experts of Strategic Culture, can play a cruel joke with the Europeans.


Several EU countries (Austria, Italy, Denmark, etc.) have stopped using the AstraZeneca vaccine due to frequent deaths from thrombosis after its use. This slows down the already slow vaccination of the population of European countries, which increases the danger of new strains of Covid-19. Due to a number of restrictions, it suffers greatly economy region, in connection with which last week the OECD called on Brussels to accelerate vaccinations.

However, the European Medicines Agency has not yet approved the Russian vaccine, which runs counter to official data on the effectiveness of Sputnik V and the growing demand for it.

According to some particularly critical European politicians (Donald Tusk, Ursula von der Leyen and others), Moscow allegedly uses its vaccine as "soft power" in order to provoke a split within the EU and increase the Kremlin's influence on internal European affairs.

This Russophobia and Cold War worldview is blameworthy.

- believes Strategic Culture.

In 2020, about 900 thousand deaths from covid were recorded in Europe, and people continue to die. Meanwhile, Sputnik V could quickly compensate for disruptions in the supply of vaccines to EU residents and save many lives. However, a number of European politicians overwhelmed by Russophobia do not dare to take such measures, making their own population hostage to their unjustified fears.
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  1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 17 March 2021 10: 47
    -6
    Russia can do without a satellite, but Europe cannot? It’s strange. wink
    Of course, vaccination of Europeans with the Russian vaccine is a political issue and Europe will delay the production of the satellite until the summer, minimizing the prospect of its use. Already today, Europeans are vaccinated to a large extent more than Russians, but if they do not get out of the systemic problems with logistics, production volumes and side effects, then by summer there will be a dilemma - to wait for BP from the Americans or seriously think about the satellite. So far, there are no special prospects for the satellite in the European market, at least until the fall, and most likely until the end of the year.
    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
      Vladest (Vladimir) 17 March 2021 15: 15
      -3
      Quote: AlexZN
      Of course, vaccination of Europeans with the Russian vaccine is a political issue.

      Not any politics. Europe is looking for all possible ways to speed up the vaccination of the population. But with regard to the vaccine from the Russian Federation, they have already explained 100 times why there are problems with its registration. The main thing is little statistics on its application and not a full cycle of testing it before the statement that "WE ARE THE FIRST!". Three vaccines are already in use in the EU and another one from Johnson and Johnson is on the way.
      I am so personally a supporter of discussing the Covid problem after the end of the pandemic.
      And the policy in a pandemic is purely the Russian Federation. This is the fact that the Russian Federation has not joined the COVAX program and the fact that in the Russian Federation, besides their own vaccines, others do not use others, although they themselves stated that there are few vaccine production capacities in the Russian Federation. Or is there no excess mortality in the RF last year in hundreds of thousands of people?
  2. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
    Cudgel (Dubina) 17 March 2021 11: 42
    -6
    ... Leading countries are creating vaccines, and Russian scientists did not stand aside, having developed the Sputnik V drug, which has proven its high efficiency ...

    and the results, the high efficiency of this mixture, called "Sputnik V" is there or once the 1st channel said. what is effective is effective. Bodyagu was sold to us, under the name of a domestic vaccine.

    ... The European Medicines Agency has not yet approved the Russian vaccine, which is contrary to official data on the effectiveness of the use of Sputnik V and the growing demand for it ....

    I will tell you, on a big secret, that not only Europeans, but also our people do not want to voluntarily be vaccinated with this rubbish. Several acquaintances took root, they were forced at work and now they regret it. And few people want to be vaccinated voluntarily.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 17 March 2021 13: 29
      +3
      If Solovyov and Putin's daughter were vaccinated, then this vaccine is worth something. And the Russian microbiological school has been famous since the 1930s.
      1. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
        Cudgel (Dubina) 17 March 2021 17: 28
        -3
        If Solovyov and Putin's daughter were vaccinated, then this vaccine is worth something.

        Iron logic, if Solovyov and the never named heiress of the unknown owner Gelendzhiksoy of real estate took root, then this is an indicator.
        Yes, about the never named heiress, the unknown owner of the Gelendzhik real estate, that she has taken root, to this the same trust as to the fact that Putin will catch up with Honduras and provide 15 high-tech jobs in the remaining three years.
  3. amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 17 March 2021 13: 49
    +4
    Quote: Cudgel
    results, the high efficiency of this mixture, called "Sputnik V" is there or once the 1st channel said. what is effective is effective. Bodyagu was sold to us, under the name of a domestic vaccine.

    Fortunately, no one asks for the opinion of a certain "Cudgel". They register "Sputnik V" and do not know that they are being "forced".


    Well, some European commissioner also considers Sputnik V to be "Putin's aggression"
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    2. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
      Cudgel (Dubina) 17 March 2021 17: 23
      -2
      Thank you for taking the trouble to copy the link from the RBC website. But I would also add this picture, from the same site and from the same article. It clearly shows that Sputnik 5 was registered for the most advanced countries.
  4. Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 13: 55
    -1
    Several EU countries (Austria, Italy, Denmark, etc.) stopped use of the AstraZeneca vaccine due to frequent deaths due to thrombosis after its use.

    First, they did not stop, but suspended it.

    Secondly, the "frequent cases of thrombosis" are as follows:

    According to the EMA, as of March 10, only about 30 cases of thromboembolic events on 5 млн Europeans who received the vaccine.

    That is, there are 1 cases of venous thrombosis per 6 million vaccinated. For reference, the same pulmonary artery thrombosis has an incidence of approximately 1 case per thousand of the population per year.

    Suspension of AstroZeneka vaccine use is only a normal precaution taken pending a final determination as to whether the thrombosis is caused by the vaccine or just a chronological coincidence. This is a normal practice in countries with a developed quality control system for medical drugs.

    The same Maron said that the use of the AstroZeneka vaccine will begin immediately after the EMA issues the relevant authorization after verification.

    And already from this usual precautionary measure, the Russian media fanned some unthinkable scandal.
    1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) 17 March 2021 14: 14
      0
      It would be interesting to know the side of the satellite, but the chances of this ... People do not understand that if 5 million people drink a glass of tea, then ...
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 14: 20
        -1
        It would be interesting to know the side of the satellite, but the chances of this ...

        Well, recently there was a case when after vaccination of one of the Russian military personnel (and they are being vaccinated with Russian vaccines), paralysis of the legs occurred.

        https://www.mk.ru/social/2021/03/05/kirilla-paralizovalo-proyavilis-chetyre-problemy-vakcin-ot-koronavirusa.html

        https://7info.ru/world/19-letnego-smolenskogo-kursanta-paralizovalo-posle-privivki-ot-covid-19/

        I specially highlighted "after", because, unlike turbopatriots, I do not make an unambiguous causal relationship between this case and vaccination. Nevertheless, the very fact of illness of one of the vaccinated with the Russian vaccine is there.

        Turbopatriots, of course, will deny - they say, this is not a consequence of the vaccine itself. Despite the fact that cases of Bell's palsy are unambiguously called a side effect of "Pfizer".

        People do not understand that if 5 million people drink a glass of tea, then ...

        Exactly
    2. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 14: 25
      +3
      Secondly, the "frequent cases of thrombosis" are as follows:
      According to the EMA, as of March 10, only 30 cases of thromboembolic events are known per 5 million Europeans who received the vaccine.

      That is, there are 1 cases of venous thrombosis per 6 million vaccinated.

      I would advise you not to rush to such conclusions.
      The fact is that severe side effects from "Astra" are observed just after the 2nd vaccination, and there are not so many of these "second" ones yet.
      In the EU, "Astra" received approval for use on 30.01,2020/6/3, and the re-vaccination (6 weeks according to the old installation .., today increased to XNUMX months!) Was to be carried out in XNUMX weeks.
      The data on the first severe "side effects" were taken from 10.03.2020/6/XNUMX, that is, just these XNUMX weeks after the first vaccination, which means that these are still quite a few cases of re-vaccination. (talking about hundreds / thousands).
      So 30 deaths out of a "couple of thousand" vaccinated, this is not at all such a "beautiful" statistic that you are trying to broadcast about here.
      It is no coincidence that many countries have "suspended" vaccination with this vaccine.
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 14: 32
        -3
        The fact is that severe side effects from "Astra" are observed just after the 2nd vaccination, and there are not so many of these "second" ones yet.

        Where does the data come from?

        So 30 deaths from "Couple of thousand" vaccinated, this is not at all such a "beautiful" statistic that you are trying to broadcast about here.

        Where does the data on the "couple of thousand" re-vaccinated come from?

        Until you answer these 2 questions, my statistics looks "prettier" than yours.

        It is no coincidence that many countries have "suspended" vaccination with this vaccine.

        They suspended it exactly until the link between the vaccine and cases of thrombosis was confirmed and refuted. Simple statistical analysis has not yet confirmed this connection. This is a common precaution.
    3. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 14: 32
      +2
      For reference, the same pulmonary artery thrombosis has an incidence of approximately 1 case per thousand of the population per year.

      Please provide the source of your claims.
      I have different numbers: 15 cases per 1 million people.
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 14: 40
        -3
        I have different numbers: 15 cases per 1 million people.

        15 cases per 1 million people is still more often than 30 cases per 5 million people.
        1. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 14: 45
          +2
          15 cases per 1 million people is still more often than 30 cases per 5 million people.

          The first is for a year.
          The second - a few days after the 2nd vaccination. And the count of these "double vaccinated" is still in the thousands and not in the millions.
          Do you feel the difference?
          1. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 14: 55
            -2
            So vaccination takes place in a shorter time compared to the incidence of pulmonary embolism.
            1. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 15: 17
              +3
              So vaccination takes place in a shorter time compared to the incidence of pulmonary embolism.

              Irrelevant.
              Here and now - talk about the frequent cases of thrombosis directly related to the vaccination "Astra".
              That is - pulmonary embolism - usually 15 cases per 1 million people / year.
              And here, in a short time, and immediately after repeated vaccination - dozens of cases, from several thousand people,
              in a couple of days. The number is growing.
              More than 20 countries have already "suspended" vaccination with "Astroy".
              1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 15: 43
                -2
                Irrelevant.

                How does it not have? You literally made a comment back and focused on the time factor.

                That is - pulmonary embolism - usually 15 cases per 1 million people / year.

                First, more often. from 35 to 65 cases per 100000 people, that is, 1-350 cases per 650 million.

                Secondly, thromboembolism is a consequence, a syndrome. That is, it is necessary to compare the frequency of diseases that lead to thromboembolism with the frequency of vaccinations, which presumably leads to a similar syndrome.

                And here, in a short time, and immediately after re-vaccination - dozens of cases, from several thousand people,
                in a couple of days. The number is growing

                First, as of March 15 in Europe, complete (that is, two-component) vaccination was completed:

                - 1,5 million Britons;

                - 2,7 million Germans;

                - 2,2 million French;

                - 2 million Italians.

                In other words, about 8,5 million people have been revaccinated in key European countries.

                Data from here - https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-56400487

                With AstroZeneka being the second most widely used vaccine in Europe after Pfizer, many more people have received the second dose than you might imagine.
                1. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 17: 32
                  +2
                  First, as of March 15 in Europe, complete (that is, two-component) vaccination was completed:

                  - 1,5 million Britons;

                  - 2,7 million Germans;

                  - 2,2 million French;

                  - 2 million Italians.

                  In other words, about 8,5 million people have been revaccinated in key European countries.

                  Data from here - https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-56400487

                  With AstroZeneka being the second most widely used vaccine in Europe after Pfizer, many more people have received the second dose than you might imagine.

                  8,5 (not tested, but let's take) million is the total number of 2 times vaccinated.
                  I will not speak for GB, they have their own theme. Maybe they started vaccination with this "Astra" earlier than the Europeans. I don’t know what exactly, and how they are being forced there. I read that there, at first, in general, neither the correct dosages, nor the terms, did not really stand up.

                  Not for them the conversation.

                  For EC - these numbers are millions of 2x vaccinations with anything (BP, Moderna), but not "Astroy".
                  As I said, “Astra” was given EU approval for the last of these three, namely on January 30.01.2020, 30.01,2020. That is, the first vaccination was apparently delivered on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. Count the weeks and you will go out to the present days when you really could have vaccinated her a second time. Well, plus - minus a week. So, a priori, there can be no question of millions vaccinated with a double dose of this "Astra".
                  1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                    Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 18: 07
                    -3
                    I will not speak for GB, they have their own theme. Maybe they started vaccination with this "Astra" earlier than the Europeans.

                    Yes, in Britain, Astra received admission a month earlier. And somehow an increased number of cases of thromboembolism is not observed there.

                    The recommended interval between doses according to WHO data is 8-12 weeks, or 2-3 months. Let's take 2 months. Add 30 months to January 2 - you get March 30. Today is only March 17. This is a difference of almost half a month.

                    That is, according to your calculations, no one has yet received the second dose. So where does the data about side effects after 2 doses come from? And why do they occur after 2 doses, and not after the first? The substance is the same.
                    1. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 21: 10
                      +3
                      That is, according to your calculations, no one has yet received the second dose. So where does the data about side effects after 2 doses come from? And why do they occur after 2 doses, and not after the first? The substance is the same.

                      Yes, the recommended (today) interval is 3 months. But at first it was less, and was - "from 4x to 6 weeks." Therefore, some people have already received the 2nd dose.

                      As for the side effects after the second dose, this concerns not only Astra, but also BP. In any case, they write about it based on the results of observations. Why, more side effects after the second dose - this is probably due to the production of antibodies. Indeed, in principle, side effects, in themselves, are not a negative sign. On the contrary. They just show that the body is responding to the vaccine.
                      Another question is how harmless this reaction is. Until it caused serious (unacceptable) consequences, in the form of some kind of anaphylactic shock (BP, Moderna), or thrombosis, like from Astra, then there is nothing wrong with that.
                    2. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 21: 17
                      +2
                      So where does the data about side effects after 2 doses come from?

                      If you are really interested, then here is the German official statistics for side effects after the first and second vaccinations (BP and Moderna).

                      I can search for "Astra" (but you can try it yourself).

                      https://amp.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/corona-impfstoff-nebenwirkung-zweite-dosis-100.html
                      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                        Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 22: 10
                        -3
                        And there is no need to search - the article says:

                        For comparison, according to the results of the study, reactions to vaccination with the vector vaccine Astrazeneca are somewhat less common. “The Permanent Commission on Vaccinations also received additional information from the manufacturer, which shows that the frequency of local and systemic reactions was lower after the 2nd dose than after the 1st dose," explains RKI.
                      2. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 22: 19
                        +3
                        it is written:

                        For comparison, according to the results of the study, reactions to vaccination with the vector vaccine Astrazeneca are somewhat less common.

                        Well, of course, at that time it was.

                        Article from 13.02.2020
                        At that time, “Astra” had just started to be put on, and this was the first dose for anybody. Therefore, "less often".

                        Cyril, you are again doing your cheap bullshit, trying to catch me on some kind of garbage.
                        This is shallow and makes you just an unpleasant conversationalist.
                        Again, I will stop answering your nonsense.
                      3. Cyril Offline Cyril
                        Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 22: 22
                        -3
                        Article from 13.02.2020
                        At that time, “Astra” had just started to be put on, and this was the first dose for anybody. Therefore, "less often".

                        Reread the quoted passage again. I will specially highlight the key points for you:

                        The Permanent Commission on Vaccinations has also received additional information from the manufacturer, which shows that the incidence of local and systemic reactions was lower. after 2nd dosethan after the 1st "

                        It is not my fault that you are reading selectively and did not see about the 2nd dose of the vaccine.
                      4. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 22: 34
                        +2
                        received additional information from the manufacturer,

                        And it’s not my fault that you don’t see the keywords in your highlighted phrase:

                        ... received additional information from the manufacturer ...

                        Don't you really understand this?)
                      5. Cyril Offline Cyril
                        Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 22: 48
                        -3
                        Hinting that the data is fake? This "argument" is from the category of conjectures and unsubstantiated statements.
                      6. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 22: 58
                        +2
                        Hinting that the data is fake?

                        Notice I didn't say that. This is your guess.
                        I didn't even mean it.
                        What I mean is that statistics on the fact of vaccination in a particular country (I gave an example with Germany) is not the same thing as there are test statistics from the manufacturer.
                        One is theory on paper. (You can interpret as you like)
                        The other is the "operational situation on the battlefield," so to speak. This is what it is - the truth that we are looking for.
                      7. Cyril Offline Cyril
                        Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 23: 23
                        -3
                        One is theory on paper. (You can interpret as you like)
                        The other is the "operational situation on the battlefield," so to speak. This is what it is - the truth that we are looking for.

                        and the passage I quoted does not say that "manufacturer data" included only test results. Let me remind you that the vaccine against "Astra" in Britain was registered and began to be used in the vaccination of the British population earlier than in the EU. The manufacturer, of course, studied these data as well.

                        You talk about specific countries and you cite Germany as an example, but there is also an example from Great Britain / The regulator of this country has not noted any cases of thrombosis after using Astra.
                      8. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 23: 59
                        +2
                        You talk about specific countries and cite Germany as an example, but there is also an example from Great Britain / The regulator of this country has not noted any cases of thrombosis after using "Astra"

                        I told you right away that I do not have information on GB.
                        In addition, if you believe the official statistics, then you cannot believe their words there at all.

                        With 26.503.552 vaccinations delivered, only 2,5% are fully vaccinated

                        How shoud I understand this???

                        It turns out that they almost never give the second vaccination?
  5. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 21: 53
    +3
    With AstroZeneka being the second most widely used vaccine in Europe after Pfizer, many more people have received the second dose than you might imagine.

    I am not trying to "imagine" anything. I always say what I have read, not what I thought of myself.
    Here is a completely official German statistics on vaccines and side effects from these vaccines as of February 28, 2020.

    Astrazeneca:
    on 363.645 vaccinations 69 severe reactions.

    Biontech / Pfizer:
    for 5.378.703 vaccinations - 1.705 severe reactions.

    Moderna: for 168.189 vaccinations, 107 severe reactions.

    At the same time, make sure how much and what was delivered.

    https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/corona-impfstoff-astrazeneca-check-100.html
    1. Cyril Offline Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 22: 20
      -3
      Firstly, this is data from half a month ago.

      Secondly, from the same data it can be seen that the number of severe adverse reactions in Astrazeneka is less than that of the same Modern and Pfazer

      Again. Firstly, it has not been established that cases of thrombosis are a consequence of the vaccination with "Astra".

      Secondly, even if all cases of thrombosis, which are now identified after vaccination with "Astra", are caused precisely by the vaccine, their number is statistically low.

      About the time factor. Your article says:

      Ulrich Sachs from the University Hospital Giessen and Marburg, who specializes in blood clotting, made a similar statement to ZDFheute: “If the vaccine is given very often over a short period of time, everything happens in a close context, which also happens in everyday life. : strokes, heart attacks ". However, these diseases are normal in some way and not necessarily vaccine related..
      1. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 22: 29
        +2
        Firstly, this is data from half a month ago.

        Moreover.)) Today there are more such cases for "half a month".

        Secondly, from the same data it can be seen that the number of severe adverse reactions in Astrazeneka is less than that of the same Modern and Pfazer

        No one disputed which of them had more. Just facts.
        As for me, Pfizer is exactly the same rubbish as "Astra" (and maybe worse because of mRNA).

        Again. Firstly, it has not been established that cases of thrombosis are a consequence of the vaccination with "Astra".
        Secondly, even if all cases of thrombosis, which are now identified after vaccination with "Astra", are caused precisely by the vaccine, their number is statistically low.

        This was enough for today 20 countries to refuse (temporarily?) To make this vaccine. I have something to do with it. They know better.

        About the time factor. Your article says:
        Ulrich Sachs from the University Hospital Giessen and Marburg, who specializes in blood clotting, made a similar statement to ZDFheute: “If the vaccine is given very frequently over a short period of time

        Nobody objects to this. Apparently, therefore, the interval was increased from 4-6 weeks to 3 months.

        Will it help? - the question is still open.
        1. Cyril Offline Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 23: 02
          -3
          Moreover.)) Today there are more such cases for "half a month".

          As well as the number of vaccinated

          No one disputed which of them had more. Just facts.

          So the fact is that there are fewer severe reactions from "Astra"

          As for me, Pfizer is exactly the same rubbish as "Astra" (and maybe worse because of mRNA).

          And then what is "not rubbish"?)

          This was enough for today 20 countries to refuse (temporarily?) To make this vaccine.

          in most of these countries the use of "Astra" was suspended after a single case of thrombosis in a vaccinated person. This is a simple precaution and does not say anything about the danger / safety of the vaccine. The EMA and WHO argue that there is no reason to suspend vaccination, but the national ministries of health themselves have the right to decide whether to suspend the use of the vaccine or not. In some countries they were suspended, in some they continued.

          Nobody objects to this. Apparently, therefore, the interval was increased from 4-6 weeks to 3 months.

          He was not talking about re-dose, but about vaccination as such.
        2. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 23: 07
          +2
          And then what is "not rubbish"?)

          If you are interested in my opinion, then of all the vaccines I know of, I would bet on the Russian vaccine from the Center. Chumakov, German Curevac - he is also on the way, well, let's see what Johnson-Johnson shows (he has an advantage - it is placed one-time).
        3. Cyril Offline Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 23: 12
          -3
          Strangely, the German Curevac vaccine is based on the same "messenger RNA" technology as Pfizer, but you call the latter rubbish and the former not.

          Well, for all the vaccines you mentioned, there is no data on real safety, so it is not yet possible to judge how "rubbish" or "not rubbish" they are.
        4. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 23: 49
          +1
          German vaccine Curevac is based on the same "messenger RNA" technology as "Pfizer"

          Well, on the same one, but not quite.
          As promised, Curevac uses a modified, natural mRNA, so the induction of an immune response from this vaccine is ensured, firstly, by a lower content of this mRNA than PB / Moderna, plus, its (induction) can be compared to natural infection from Covid 19. In addition, this company has 20 years of experience with this technology. In my opinion, this is not enough.

          Well, for all the vaccines you mentioned, there is no data on real safety, so it is not yet possible to judge how "rubbish" or "not rubbish" they are.

          For Johnson, I indicated the advantage - one-time vaccination.

          According to Chumakov, it is a decades-old technology for creating and using such vaccines. Speaks for itself.
        5. Cyril Offline Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 18 March 2021 08: 21
          -3
          modified, natural mRNA,

          So modified or natural? And how does "natural" differ from "artificial" in terms of biochemistry?

          plus, it (induction) can be compared to a natural infection from Covid 19.

          That is, this vaccine will cause side effects comparable to the negative effects of the disease itself? And what is the safety here?

          For Johnson, I indicated the advantage - one-time vaccination.
          According to Chumakov, it is a decades-old technology for creating and using such vaccines. Speaks for itself.

          Both of these arguments say nothing about the safety of these particular vaccines.
        6. Dear sofa expert. 18 March 2021 10: 13
          +1
          So modified or natural? And how does "natural" differ from "artificial" in terms of biochemistry?

          Modified, of natural origin. Is it so incomprehensible?

          And at Biontech / Pfizer, Moderna is artificially synthesized.

          Guess the difference yourself.

          That is, this vaccine will cause side effects comparable to the negative effects of the disease itself? And what is the safety here?

          This is exactly the whole point of vaccines - to induce a reaction comparable to the symptoms of the disease.

          But the "side effects" in the form of thrombosis, (Astra), and ALLERGIC REACTIONS (BP, Moderna) - they are just undesirable.

          The less these "side effects", the safer the vaccine.

          It is believed that BP / Moderna often causes allergic reactions, precisely because of the use of artificial (synthetically produced) mRNA.
          CureVac does not work with artificial - but with natural, modified mRNA, which does not cause (in their experience) an allergic reaction, thus making the vaccine safer.

          So they say.

          And I, personally for myself, are waiting for the result.

          What do you want from me? Me to what??)
        7. Cyril Offline Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 18 March 2021 14: 48
          -3
          Modified, of natural origin. Is it so incomprehensible?

          Of course, it is not clear, because if the modification affected, for example, up to 80-90% of this RNA, then the cat cried because of the "naturalness".

          Guess the difference yourself.

          So you don't know them?

          This is exactly the whole point of vaccines - to induce a reaction comparable to the symptoms of the disease.

          No, that's not the point of vaccines. If your vaccine against rabies, for example, causes symptoms comparable to rabies, the patient will die.

          The point of any vaccine is to induce an immune response. The fact that some vaccines cause symptoms of the disease itself is just a side effect. That is why nowadays, live or simple inactivated vaccines are rarely used, although they give the reaction that is closest to the symptoms of the disease.

          But the "side effects" in the form of thrombosis, (Astra), and ALLERGIC REACTIONS (BP, Moderna) - they are just undesirable.

          the allergic reactions that you identified with such an emotional capsule are characteristic not only of these vaccines, but also of vaccines made on the basis of more traditional technologies. For example, the same vector Sputnik-5 or the Chinese Sinovac, which because of this is not recommended or is recommended with caution to inject allergy sufferers.

          It is believed that BP / Moderna often causes allergic reactions, precisely because of the use of artificial (synthetically produced) mRNA.
          CureVac does not work with artificial - but with natural, modified mRNA, which does not cause (in their experience) an allergic reaction, thus making the vaccine safer.

          This marketing move on the opposition of supposedly safer "organic" and supposedly more harmful "artificial" has been used since the invention of genetically modified products. True, in practice, genetically modified foods are many times safer than "natural" ones, but who cares about that :)

          What do you want from me? Me to what??)

          Did I say somewhere that I want something from you?
  6. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 23: 11
    +2
    in most of these countries the use of "Astra" was suspended after a single case of thrombosis in a vaccinated person.

    Come on already. There are statistics for other countries as well. I got bored with arguing with you about anything.
    I'm going to rest.
  7. Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 23: 14
    -3
    Come on already. There are statistics for other countries as well. I got bored with arguing with you about anything.

    Yes, and these statistics do not yet give any reason to believe that the Astra vaccine poses an increased danger. Both the WHO and the EMA speaks about this.
  8. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 23: 55
    +1
    Yes, and these statistics do not yet give any reason to believe that the Astra vaccine poses an increased danger. Both the WHO and the EMA speaks about this.

    So put it on yourself and your family. And I will wait until I see the effect of the three I have listed.
  9. Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 18 March 2021 08: 18
    -3
    So put it on yourself and your family.

    The "argument" of the nursery level :)
  10. Dear sofa expert. 18 March 2021 10: 16
    +1
    So put it on yourself and your family.

    The "argument" of the nursery level :)

    Sorry, I was just trying to adjust to the level of your powerful intellect, which you have enough, only to ask your narrow-minded questions.
  11. Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 18 March 2021 13: 55
    -3
    What's in this fact

    Yes, and these statistics do not yet give any reason to believe that the Astra vaccine poses an increased danger. Both the WHO and the EMA speaks about this.

    is relevant to your asylum comment?)
  • Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 14: 43
    -3
    http://kb51.ru/pdf/tela.PDF

    and here - https://www.cochrane.org/ru/CD010019/PVD_ambulatornoe-lechenie-v-sravnenii-s-stacionarnym-lecheniem-pri-ostroy-tromboembolii-legochnoy

    It is generally said here that:

    Pulmonary embolism (PE) is the third most common life-threatening cardiovascular disease worldwide. Registered annually 23 to 69 new cases of pulmonary embolism per 100000 population.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 15: 20
      +2
      among the most common life-threatening cardiovascular diseases

      Keywords.
      But this does not really matter in our discussion.
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 15: 33
        -3
        How does it not have? In our discussion, we are talking about the comparative statistics of thrombosis after vaccination and within the population as a whole.
        1. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 15: 39
          +2
          How does it not have? In our discussion, we are talking about the comparative statistics of thrombosis after vaccination and within the population as a whole.

          Precisely because the comparison is not in your favor.
          The disease is in the usual form, statistically hundreds of times less common than after the use of the vaccine.
          In the first case - tens per million people per year
          In the second case, tens of thousands of people in a matter of days.
          And the cases keep growing.
          1. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 17 March 2021 15: 44
            -2
            In the second case, tens of thousands of people in a matter of days.

            Lying. There are already much more vaccinated ones.
            1. Dear sofa expert. 17 March 2021 17: 40
              +2
              In the second case, tens of thousands of people in a matter of days.

              Lying. There are already much more vaccinated ones.

              I gave you my reasons. A little math, and you will also be able to reach not millions, but thousands (or maybe even hundreds).
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 17 March 2021 14: 46
    0
    From what we see in open sources, Pfizer talcum powder in Israel has systemic reliable open statistics. And she's encouraging.
    There is no guarantee that when using a satellite in Europe, we will not receive a wave of information about a side effect, real and imaginary. At the beginning, the pfizer also received information that it was strychnine poured into bubbles.
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    2. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 17 March 2021 16: 52
      -1
      And so it was. Now the Russian media are silent about Pfizer like a fish on ice, because for the same Israel, for example, there are exhaustive statistics and it completely refutes the horror films that these media stuffed their readers with. Now they focused on Astra Zeneka.
    3. Dear sofa expert. 22 March 2021 12: 55
      +3
      From what we see in open sources, Pfizer talcum powder in Israel has systemic reliable open statistics. And she's encouraging.

      Happy for you. Read it, maybe it will lead you to thoughts.)

      https://www.amp/s/m.jpost.com/breaking-news/pfizer-ceos-israel-visit-cancelled-because-he-is-unvaccinated-report-661100/amp
  • Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 17 March 2021 14: 58
    -2
    According to more complete information in the Russian Federation, the excess mortality in the Russian Federation in 2020 is more than 300 people. Against this background, another question arises in contrast to the title of this article. Why is the mortality rate from COVID000 higher in the Russian Federation than elsewhere in the world? but there, instead of treating their own people, they are treating all and sundry, but not their own.
    1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
      kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 17 March 2021 20: 06
      +3
      Quote: Vladest
      According to more complete information in the Russian Federation, the excess mortality in the Russian Federation in 2020 is more than 300 people. Against this background, another question arises in contrast to the title of this article. Why is the mortality rate from COVID000 higher in the Russian Federation than elsewhere in the world? but there, instead of treating their own people, they are treating all and sundry, but not their own.

      The source of your numbers is very interesting. You keep forgetting to specify it in your "accusatory" posts.
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 17 March 2021 21: 30
        -4
        The pandemic is not over yet. And "Chickens are counted in Autumn". As known. In the Russian Federation there is a funny death rate. He died for another reason, suffering from COVOD19 .... And this is every 3-4 deceased. You draw whatever you want in your home, but you cannot cover all the sources of information about the disease.

        Russia became one of the leaders among the countries of Europe and the G20 in excess mortality during a pandemic. Such data are given in the report on the RF by the International Monetary Fund.
        IMF experts refer to the official statistics of Rosstat for January-November, according to which the number of deaths in the country increased by 286 thousand people and amounted to 1,881 million.

        Note especially. They refer to the sources of the Russian Federation itself

        1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
          kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 17 March 2021 21: 52
          0
          Quote: Vladest
          The pandemic is not over yet. And "Chickens are counted in Autumn". As known.

          It is a fact! laughing

          Quote: Vladest
          "Russia became one of the leaders among the countries of Europe and the G20 in excess mortality during a pandemic. Such data are given in the report on the Russian Federation by the International Monetary Fund..

          It's good that it's not "Armenian radio".

          Quote: Vladest
          IMF experts refer to the official statistics of Rosstat for January-November, according to which the number of deaths in the country increased by 286 thousand people and amounted to 1,881 million. "

          We expect from you the very link to the official statistics of Rosstat.

          Quote: Vladest
          Note especially. They refer to the sources of the Russian Federation itself

          Noted! Give these sources !!!
          For you! Yes, and do not read the IMF Reports at night.
          The data is updated automatically every 30 minutes. Sources - Ministry of Health, Operations Headquarters, WHO, Johns Hopkins University. Statistics updated today, 17.03.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX.

          The spread of coronavirus in the world

          Country of Sick In total Per 1 thousand inhabitants Sick today Total died Died in a day Recovered
          1. США 29549554 89.6 +54132 536922 +1294 0
          2. Бразилия 11603535 54.6 +83926 282127 +2841 10261154
          3. Индия 11438734 8.3 +28903 159044 +188 11045284
          4. Россия 4418436 30.2 +8998 93364 +427 4024975
          5. Великобритания 4282203 64.3 +5363 125927 +110 12013
          6. Франция 4168411 60.5 +36307 91324 +400 282152
          7. Италия 3258770 54.1 +20376 103001 +502 2619654
          8. Испания 3200024 68.2 +4962 72565 +141 150376
          9. Турция 2911642 35 +16749 29623 +71 2734862
          10. Германия 2603064 31.3 +16218 73968 +266 2387232
          11. Колумбия 2309600 47.9 +3716 61368 +125 2209224
          12. Аргентина 2210121 49.2 +8235 54036 +200 1998594
          13. Мексика 2169007 17 +1278 195119 +175 1716135
          14. Польша 1956974 51.1 +39447 48032 +826 1593165
          15. Иран 1763313 20.8 +8380 61427 +97 1506360
          16.+1 Украина 1538516 37.1 +11921 30535 +296 1283215
          17.-1 ЮАР 1530966 27.9 +933 51560 +139 1458001
          18. Индонезия 1437283 5.4 +6825 38915 +162 1266673
          19.+1 Чехия 1426991 133.4 +14029 23902 +245 1215077
          20.-1 Перу 1418974 44.1 +0 49177 +0 1329788
          21. Нидерланды 1183567 67.5 +5066 16251 +33 15055
          22. Канада 921263 23.9 +2855 22509 +25 867542
          23. Чили 900782 45.3 +4551 21789 +17 845712
          24. Румыния 868799 44.8 +6118 21698 +133 787392
          25. Израиль 823314 90.1 +1552 6051 +14 791105
          26. Португалия 814897 79.3 +384 16707 +13 762961
          27. Бельгия 813026 70.8 +3165 22572 +27 0
          28. Ирак 768352 19.5 +5267 13827 +39 695184
          29. Швеция 725289 70.3 +12762 13172 +26 0
          30. Филиппины 635698 5.8 +4378 12866 +18 561099
          31. Пакистан 612315 2.8 +2351 13656 +61 575867
          32. Швейцария 575253 67.1 +1438 10147 +29 317600
          33. Бангладеш 560887 3.3 +1719 8597 +26 514479
          34. Венгрия 532578 54.5 +3456 17421 +195 359061
          35. Сербия 526112 76 +5201 4778 +31 0
          36. Австрия 501224 56.2 +5760 8956 +64 463714
          37.+1 Иордания 495380 46 +8910 5497 +69 406654
          38.-1 Марокко 489622 13.5 +526 8737 +4 476727
          39. Япония 450615 3.6 +1931 8718 +76 428627
          40. Объединённые Арабские Эмираты 432364 44.2 +4069 1414 +12 413477
          41. Ливан 423433 61.8 +3480 5474 +52 333648
          42. Саудовская Аравия 383106 11.2 +354 6578 +5 373130
          43. Панама 348580 92.6 +425 6009 +4 337010
          44. Словакия 342430 62.8 +4470 8738 +69 255300
          45. Малайзия 327253 9.9 +2282 1220 +7 310958
          46. Беларусь 304146 32.3 +876 2112 +9 294878
          47. Эквадор 302854 17.2 +356 16259 +19 263164
          48. Болгария 287568 41.4 +4374 11579 +107 228816
          49.+1 Казахстан 276663 13.8 +1161 3196 +0 253502
          50.-1 Грузия 276067 74.1 +382 3665 +7 269006
          51. Непал 275424 9.6 +114 3014 +0 271495
          52. Боливия 260988 22.8 +929 11997 +23 206586
          53. Хорватия 253310 62.1 +2136 5709 +24 242111
          54. Доминиканская Республика 246794 23 +495 3237 +11 203070
          55. Тунис 242673 20.8 +549 8429 +25 209755
          56. Азербайджан 241651 24 +980 3298 +12 231370
          57. Ирландия 227663 46.3 +347 4552 +18 23364
          58. Греция 223789 20.8 +1508 7196 +59 93764
          59. Дания 222534 38.6 +771 2396 +2 211416
          60. Палестина 213791 44.4 +2189 2314 +21 189759
          61. Кувейт 212169 50.4 +1314 1186 +7 196821
          62. Коста-Рика 210447 42.5 +1354 2886 +24 189682
          63.+1 Молдова 207012 58.4 +1688 4402 +33 180763
          64.-1 Литва 206889 74.1 +599 3427 +11 192484
          65. Словения 202573 95.7 +1994 3948 +10 188315
          66. Египет 192195 1.9 +640 11384 +44 148089
          67. Гватемала 183985 10.4 +971 6599 +21 169149
          68. Парагвай 183348 25.6 +1934 3554 +37 152280
          69. Армения 180141 60.8 +854 3282 +5 166913
          70. Гондурас 179515 19.6 +590 4373 +13 68892
          71. Эфиопия 178108 1.6 +1490 2573 +18 144488
          72. Катар 171212 62.2 +479 268 +1 158853
          73. Нигерия 161074 0.8 +179 2018 +2 146072
          74. Оман 148558 36.3 +1135 1617 +8 137544
          75.+1 Ливия 147121 21.7 +1041 2406 +4 133768
          76.-1 Венесуэла 147028 4.5 +540 1451 +7 138411
          77. Босния и Герцеговина 146437 41.7 +1606 5637 +53 122107
          78. Мьянма 142162 2.6 +15 3203 +1 131744
          79. Бахрейн 132369 91.2 +686 487 +2 125503
          80. Албания 118492 41.6 +475 2077 +17 81810
          81. Алжир 115540 2.7 +130 3045 +5 80103
          82. Кения 115031 2.4 +1064 1925 +7 88781
          83. Северная Македония 113929 54.8 +999 3364 +24 98676
          84. Китай 101443 0.1 +22 4839 +0 96087
          85. Южная Корея 96849 1.9 +469 1686 +8 88814
          86. Латвия 95420 50 +1461 1789 +20 85465
          87.+3 Эстония 89331 67.2 +3245 745 +17 60743
          88.-1 Шри-Ланка 88392 4.1 +154 532 +0 84969
          89.-1 Гана 88228 2.9 +243 698 +7 83829
          90.-1 Киргизия 87045 13.3 +55 1485 +1 83980
          91. Замбия 85240 4.8 +290 1167 +3 82432
          92. Черногория 84700 136.1 +537 1151 +15 74852
          93. Норвегия 82455 14.8 +1150 641 +1 17998
          94. Узбекистан 80858 2.3 +115 622 +0 79450
          95. Косово 78340 41.1 +553 1723 +8 65596
          96. Уругвай 73770 21.6 +908 725 +8 62584
          97. Финляндия 67851 12.3 +517 801 +1 46000
          98. Мозамбик 64929 2.1 +413 732 +7 50844
          99.+1 Куба 62998 5.6 +792 376 +3 58610
          100.-1 Сальвадор 62531 9.7 +154 1962 +8 59576
          101. Сингапур 60137 10.5 +9 30 +0 59984
          102. Люксембург 58111 94.7 +185 697 +4 54528
          103. Афганистан 55995 1.7 +10 2460 +1 49536
          104. Намибия 41466 16.6 +42 474 +9 38793
          105. Камерун 40622 1.7 +0 601 +0 35261
          106. Уганда 40593 1 +2 334 +0 15099
          107. Кипр 40344 46.1 +475 241 +1 2057
          108. Кот-д’Ивуар 38120 1.5 +212 214 +1 35111
          109. Сенегал 37062 1.9 +66 981 +3 33047
          110. Зимбабве 36535 2.5 +31 1507 +3 34124
          111. Ботсвана 34999 15.2 +0 447 +0 29916
          112. Малави 32894 1.9 +30 1088 +4 26890
          113. Ямайка 31907 11.7 +602 494 +2 15371
          114. Судан 30989 0.7 +116 1959 +0 23583
          115. Австралия 29154 1.1 +17 909 +0 22960
          116. Таиланд 27402 0.4 +248 88 +1 26339
          117. Демократическая Республика Конго 27100 5 +23 722 +5 23759
          118. Мальта 27061 54.8 +313 357 +3 23591
          119. Мальдивы 21819 54.3 +153 64 +0 19342
          120. Мадагаскар 21688 0.8 +101 335 +1 20614
          121. Ангола 21446 0.7 +39 522 +1 19971
          122. Руанда 20412 1.7 +110 282 +0 18804
          123. Гвинея 17982 1.4 +131 104 +1 15719
          124. Мавритания 17487 4.8 +30 444 +0 16806
          125. Эсватини 17243 15 +4 663 +0 15841
          126. Габон 16945 7.8 +0 101 +0 14780
          127. Сирия 16656 1 +100 1110 +6 11141
          128. Кабо-Верде 16154 29.4 +34 157 +1 15549
          129. Таджикистан 13308 1.5 +0 90 +0 13218
          130. Гаити 12664 1.2 +32 250 +0 10204
          131. Белиз 12389 31.9 +6 316 +0 12010
          132. Буркина-Фасо 12378 0.6 +0 144 +0 11974
          133. Андорра 11319 148.6 +30 113 +0 10861
          134. Лесото 10530 5.2 +0 309 +0 3922
          135. Южный Судан 9613 0.9 +0 106 +0 7906
          136.+1 Сомали 9437 0.6 +109 385 +6 4306
          137.-1 Республика Конго 9329 1.7 +0 131 +0 7514
          138. Гайана 9238 11.5 +51 208 +1 8359
          139. Суринам 9034 15.5 +6 176 +0 8528

          Unfortunately, the system does not skip the entire table.
          https://koronavirustoday.ru/info/koronavirus-tablicza-po-stranam-mira-na-segodnya/.
          1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
            Alexzn (Alexander) 18 March 2021 10: 02
            -1
            1. There is indeed a noticeable discrepancy between the statistics of mortality from coronavirus and excess mortality in general. The 13% rise in excess deaths over the past year (from Golikova's report) is highly suspicious, with low death rates from the corona.
            2. The incidence rate is not a synthetic indicator. Israel is in 25th place in infectiousness, and in mortality at the end of the first hundred. The infectivity indicator does not make sense at all without indicating the number of tests performed and the percentage of those identified.
            3. There are very few countries whose statistics can be trusted. Russia is not one of those.
          2. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 18 March 2021 11: 19
            -3
            You are breaking the rules of the forum by publishing full texts of articles.
            Highlight the Main. I could already write to the administrators twice on you.
            Learn to work with INFOMATION !!
            How will you read or analyze all this heap?
            Don't litter the forum
            1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
              kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 18 March 2021 13: 02
              +1
              Quote: Vladest
              You are breaking the rules of the forum by publishing full texts of articles.

              What nonsense is this? I gave you a link to the article, study it. The table is different.

              Quote: Vladest
              I could already write to the administrators twice on you.

              Write, I will be grateful to you.

              Quote: Vladest
              How will you read or analyze all this heap?

              Probably those who are tired of your Russophobia and idle chatter!

              Quote: Vladest
              Don't litter the forum

              Self-criticism is at your best. hi
              1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                Vladest (Vladimir) 18 March 2021 13: 31
                -3
                The only thing left is to ask a Russian about Russophobia)))) Are you so sure that all Russians are ready to lick the "F" of the authorities, or do you decide that the Russian is good or that the Russian is right? Lick you but do not think that everyone is doing this.
                You are a MINOR ...
                1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
                  kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 18 March 2021 13: 39
                  +2
                  Quote: Vladest
                  MINORITY ...

                  Russian - Estonian spill! Is written "minority"
                  This is for the future, when once again you will spew bile towards Russia.
  • amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 17 March 2021 19: 24
    +3
    Quote: Cudgel
    Thank you for taking the trouble to copy the link from the RBC website. But I would also add this picture, from the same site and from the same article. It can be clearly seen on it what are the most advanced countries registered a bodyagu called "Sputinik 5".

    “All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others "(Eng." All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others ")
    (J. Orwell)

    And by what criteria does someone "Dubina" define the "advancedness of countries"? By the degree of "tolerance", Russophobia or a pan-head? repeat
  • Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 17 March 2021 22: 00
    -3
    Horror stories about some terrible side effects among people vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine, widely published today in Russia, are the fruit of a morbid fantasy of some stupid propagandists, they replaced the same horror stories that were previously spread about the side effects of the Pfizer vaccine. Today it is already clear to everyone that there are no serious problems with Pfizer - AstraZeneca has begun to mock. Only all this noise is meaningless, not only the Europeans are suspicious of Sputnik, but also the Russians themselves, and why there - the Russian president is somehow in no hurry to be vaccinated with the Russian vaccine. And I understand him, I remember the phrase of Professor Preobrazhensky:

    God knows what they threw in there. Can you tell them what comes to their minds?

    The story "Heart of a Dog" was written almost a hundred years ago, but how relevant it is! good
  • Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 March 2021 11: 35
    -4
    Today Euronews:

    Vaccine Sputnik V is a good vaccine

    Who is lying or the author of the article or?
    The EU is already using 4 vaccines to save the lives of its citizens. SputnikV will also accept it when all the recognition procedures have been completed.
    What they write:

    "RDIF filed an application for registration of the Sputnik V vaccine in the European Union on January 29, 2021 and launched the process of submitting information to the European Medicines Agency EMA through a rolling review procedure."

    Bureaucracy at work.
    As in the Russian Federation with the fact that someone else's vaccines to take? Or is it better to kill thousands, but be the FIRST and ONLY. ?
    In Estonia, 11% of the population has already been vaccinated .. How is Russia against it? And there is only the Scale of the territory)))
    1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
      kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 18 March 2021 13: 20
      +2
      Quote: Vladest
      In Estonia, 11% of the population has already been vaccinated .. How is Russia against it? And there is only the Scale of the territory)))

      Population "proud and independent" Estonian 1320000 people 1250000 people live in Nizhny Novgorod. laughing
      11% of your population, 145 thousand people are vaccinated in Estonia.
      Vaccination statistics in Russia
      Statistics of vaccination against coronavirus COVID-19 in Russia for today (18.03.)

      8 (302% of the population) - all vaccinations were made against coronavirus.
      2 people - vaccinated against coronavirus (first and second components).
      Average data for the last week:

      69 people per day (875% of the population) - the average number of people vaccinated against coronavirus per day.
      157 095 - average number of vaccinations (first and second) per day
      https://stop-coronavirus-ru.ru/skolko-chelovek-privito-ot-koronavirusa-v-rossii-na-18-marta/
      I sincerely wish all the "Baltic sisters" well-being and prosperity! hi
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 18 March 2021 13: 24
        -3
        Quote: kapitan92
        The population of "proud and independent" Estonia is 1320000. 1250000 people live in Nizhny Novgorod.

        If you respected went to SCHOOL then you should know what PERCENTAGE is. The percentage of the size does not matter.
        If in the Russian Federation the population is 111 times more than in Estonia, then the vaccinations should also be 111 times more.
        Is this clear to the stupid?
        But alas in the Russian Federation and 5% is not. And we write off the dead from Covid to "other diseases" ...
        1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
          kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 18 March 2021 13: 30
          +3
          Quote: Vladest
          If you respected went to SCHOOL

          Quote: Vladest
          Is this clear to the stupid?

          laughing laughing
          Lack of arguments - breeds rudeness. fellow