How Russia should respond to the water blockade of Crimea


The calendar winter is gradually coming to an end. Thanks to heavy rainfall, there is a chance that the water problem in Crimea this year will become slightly less acute than a year earlier. However, relying on the constant mercy of nature is very frivolous, therefore, something must already be decided with the water supply. They even stood up for the Crimeans in Germany, where they decided to check if Ukraine itself was violating international law. The question arises, shouldn't Kiev be responsible for its actions in relation to the peninsula and its inhabitants, and if so, in what form?


Recall that Crimea became part of the Russian Federation as a result of a nationwide referendum on the basis of a bilateral agreement between our country and its two new subjects. In principle, there can be no talk of any "annexation", that is, the forcible annexation of a part of another state. In response, Ukraine in 2014 cut off water supplies to the peninsula, and in 2015 - and electricity supplies. More than six years later, the Crimean leadership finally got the chance to think about asking the RF Prosecutor General's Office if there were any signs of genocide in Kiev's actions. And they, by the way, formally exist, since they fall under the form of mass violence against a certain national-ethnic group of the population, in particular, Crimeans: "the deliberate creation of living conditions calculated for the complete or partial physical destruction of this group." Recently, Waldemar Gerdt, a representative of the Alternative for Germany party, promised to discuss this issue with colleagues in the Bundestag:

Stopping the supply of fresh water to the territory is some kind of medieval siege method ... They say: this is our Crimea, these are our people, we love them so much and want to return them back that we will cut off the drinking water. This is an anti-human approach.

It is not known what is ultimately decided in the FRG, but the main question is, how should Russia itself react to the actions of Independent, in relation to millions of whose citizens such actions are being performed? Wouldn't it be correct to answer her in kind? Moreover, today the situation seems to be conducive to this.

So, Ukraine is going through the unusually cold winter of 2020-2021 very hard. Snow is falling, blizzards are sweeping, frosts are only slightly inferior to Russian ones. With all this, there are serious problems with heating due to the resulting shortage of coal at thermal power plants. Ukrainian oligarchs prepared reserves of fuel for the winter, which were not enough for heating under abnormal temperature conditions. When the choice arose between their own interests and the population, they bought the generated kilowatts for the needs of their enterprises. The common misfortune was immediately taken advantage of by the "coal king" Rinat Akhmetov, who put a dozen power units of his company DTEK for unplanned repairs, which led to a sharp jump in electricity prices for consumers. Kiev was forced to significantly increase the import of electricity from Russia, as well as neighboring Belarus. We add that, among other things, Ukrainians now pay for utilities and other services at increased rates.

It would seem that this is the optimal time to strike back “for Crimea”. Take and cut, or even stop the supply of electricity. At the same time, cut off the export of coal and diesel fuel, simply by waiting for Ukraine "to freeze and fall apart." Well, if you go for the principle, it is technically quite feasible. Perhaps it should have been done for a long time. But there are nuances.

At first, our "national heritage" totally depends on Ukraine in the issue of gas supplies to the European Union. All attempts to build bypass pipelines have de facto failed. Washington and Brussels are now doing everything necessary to firmly tie Russia to the Ukrainian GTS forever. Even if Nord Stream 2 is put into operation, it will only be subject to the preservation of transit through Nezalezhnaya, as well as the maintenance and repair of its dilapidated trunk infrastructure. Sorry, but one hand to support the Ukrainian transit, and the other hand to "bring down" Kiev simply will not work.

Secondly, it is on the basis of the first thesis that an old disc will immediately be included that Russian people live in Ukraine, and we cannot freeze and kill them, and also Russia needs to continue making money on economic cooperation with Independent. By the way, there is also a large grain of truth in this.

And what do we end up with? Digging deeper, the root of the problem is that the Kremlin simply does not have any intelligible and consistent concept of Ukraine and what should be done (or not done) with it, hence confusion and vacillation. Thus, Kiev at the official level recognized Russia as an "aggressor country" and enshrined in the Constitution the desire to join the anti-Russian military bloc of NATO, and the infrastructure of the North Atlantic Alliance is already being built in Nezalezhnaya. It turns out that we are enemies for Ukraine, but why then do we supply, for example, diesel fuel for Ukrainian armored vehicles, why do we turn a blind eye to frank military preparations near the Russian border?

Let's be consistent. If Russia and Ukraine are enemies, then we must act in response accordingly. It was necessary for a long time to stop the supply of electricity and energy resources to their potential adversary, despite the suffering of the population of Independent and their own economic losses, prepare either a "march on Kiev", or some kind of hybrid operation to change the ruling regime to a more pro-Russian one, as well as support "separatists" in the regions in order to weaken Ukraine from the inside. If we are friends who just temporarily quarreled, then there is nothing to think about, and we must look for ways of reconciliation. True, in conditions when Kiev is under external control, a compromise is hardly possible, or rather, it will be unacceptable for us. Russia will be required to return Crimea and finally surrender Donbass, as well as “pay and repent” as much as is required, that is, indefinitely.

We definitely do not need such "friendship", and no one will ever return Crimea. This means that reconciliation, which is more correctly called surrender, is simply impossible.
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  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 27 February 2021 12: 16
    +5
    Rave. This winter has clearly shown that the EU needs gas from the Russian Federation to the EU almost more than its supplies to the Russian Federation. SP-1 is working, SP-2 is still being completed. In any case, it is necessary to abandon the Ukrop pipe, its overhaul will cost more than the construction of SP-2, and endless political blackmail and gas theft from Dill is simply not acceptable ... the blockade of Crimea, the Russian Federation should react as hard as possible. To prohibit the banks of the Russian Federation to finance Ukraine and its citizens, to introduce a complete embargo on trade with Ukraine. Prohibit citizens of Ukraine from entering the territory of the Russian Federation and employment in the Russian Federation. Cut off the rivers of the Russian Federation going to Ukraine and direct their waters to the Don and Volga, where this water is more needed.
  2. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 27 February 2021 13: 02
    +3
    All attempts to build bypass pipelines have de facto failed.

    Why did you fail? Gas goes to the Balkans through Turkey, even if the Turks reduce their gas purchases for themselves, this means that more gas can go to Europe. Fortune calmly and methodically "drowns" the pipe in the Baltic.

    Even if Nord Stream 2 is put into operation, it will only be subject to the preservation of transit through Nezalezhnaya, as well as the maintenance and repair of its dilapidated trunk infrastructure.

    This is your guess, do I understand correctly?

    The whole theory is built on a shaky foundation - a wrong conclusion and an unreasonable assumption.
    1. Mykola Onishchenko (Mykola Onishchenko) 28 February 2021 03: 10
      -6
      "Fortune" can only work in shallow water, so it will not be able to complete it alone.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 28 February 2021 08: 58
        +1
        "Fortune" can only work in shallow water, so it will not be able to complete it alone.

        Of course of course. Everything is so, Fortune cannot, the Crimean bridge is drawn. Just don't be nervous, take pills.
        1. Mykola Onishchenko (Mykola Onishchenko) 28 February 2021 09: 21
          -4
          As for the pills, contact your psychiatrist. And about "Fortune" in your own media it was written in black and white that it could not work at depth.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 28 February 2021 09: 37
            +1
            As for the pills, contact your psychiatrist. And about "Fortune" in your own media it was written in black and white that it could not work at depth.

            If you want to find confirmation of your own version, you can easily find confirmation in the media both in yours and in ours (many of which are not ours at all). Don't you find it wiser not to rummage through the propaganda, but to look at the technical characteristics of the vessel?

            The TUB is equipped with pipe-laying equipment for pipes 4'-60 'and, thanks to two pipeline tensioners, with a capacity of 100 tons each, it can lay pipelines at depths of up to 200 meters

            https://www.korabel.ru/news/comments/flagman_truboukladochnogo_flota_rossii_-_tub_fortuna.html

            It is necessary to look at how deep there is and whether they are more than 200. If there are any, another vessel can finish building them.
            1. Mykola Onishchenko (Mykola Onishchenko) 28 February 2021 12: 55
              -3
              There are such depths, but it is not clear where the other ship will come from, because the "Chersky", as has been repeatedly written in various sources, has problems.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 28 February 2021 13: 32
                +3
                There are such depths, but it is not clear where the other ship will come from, because the "Chersky", as has been repeatedly written in various sources, has problems.

                Do you know for sure? As far as I remember, the maximum depths have long been passed.

                The next stage is the actual implementation of the project, that is, laying the pipeline along the bottom of the Baltic Sea. This work will begin in 2008. The total length of the offshore gas pipeline route will be about 1200 km; the maximum sea depth in the places where the pipe passes - 210 m.

                https://www.maritimemarket.ru/article.phtml?id=182

                The Baltic Sea is shallow, lies entirely within the shelf, with depths of up to 200 m occupying 99,8% of its area.
                The bottom of its basin has depressions, delimited by the hills and the foundations of the islands: in the west - Bornholmskaya (105 m) and Arkonskaya (53 m), in the center - Gotland (249 m) and Gdansk (116 m); north of the island of Gotland from northeast to southwest stretches the deepest depression - Landsort (up to 470 m).

                https://bigenc.ru/geography/text/4343809


                So let's do this, you will provide something more than "there are such depths", indicate exactly where and which ones, preferably with a source of information, and then we will discuss the existence of problems and ways to solve them.
                1. Mykola Onishchenko (Mykola Onishchenko) 28 February 2021 16: 30
                  -2
                  Okay, I'll take a look, I'll provide it.
              2. Dear sofa expert. 28 February 2021 23: 41
                +2
                There are depths there

                there are no "such depths"

                The greatest depth of the Baltic Sea is recorded in the Landsort Basin. The Danish Straits are characterized by shallow depths. The depth of the Great Belt is 10 - 25 m, the Small Belt - 10 - 35 m. The waters of the Sound have a depth of 7 to 15 m.

                https://geographyofrussia.com/baltijskoe-more-2/

                The Landsort Basin (Basin) is located in the Stockholm area, in Swedish waters, not Danish ones.
  3. Gardamir Offline Gardamir
    Gardamir (Leonid) 27 February 2021 13: 20
    +2
    Russia must learn to extract fresh water from seawater, if you will, from the air. However, if not difficult, you can return the Kherson region. well, all the lands to the east. These are our lands. it was the Russians who transformed the Wild Field.
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 27 February 2021 22: 23
      -3
      these lands and the whole of Novorossia had to be taken in 2014, and now the Kremlin strategist has received both shame and an early war and there will be much more blood, because the outskirts and its army are not at all the same as in 2014. But the apologists of the Kremlin hockey player will continue to sing mantras about his wisdom and HPP
  4. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 27 February 2021 13: 28
    0
    It seems that in order for Russia to somehow respond to the fascization of Ukraine, the power in Russia must change. For this they are "brothers" and whatever they do they will be helped by money and trade. And so it will be until the fascist state declares a full-scale war on us. And her owners are preparing her for this. But our authorities do not understand this - they are brothers ...
  5. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 27 February 2021 13: 40
    -1
    If Russia and Ukraine are enemies,

    Only Ukraine thinks so. I think so too. But Putin thinks differently, and the government and Lavrov do not consider Ukraine an enemy.

    It was necessary for a long time to stop the supply of electricity and energy carriers to their potential adversary,

    To do this, people must be in power who respect not only themselves, but also the state they run. Our embassy was searched, where is the answer? Without a flag, anthem, we are performing, so they also justify it. Ukraine at every "corner" yells about aggression and occupation, and why don't we answer? NATO has approached our borders. As Russia punished the countries that show so aggression. They voluntarily provide a springboard for an attack on our country, and Russia only states the facts !! No shame, no conscience! What else can censorship be said about such leaders?
  6. Xuli (o) Tebenado 27 February 2021 14: 04
    +4
    that the Kremlin simply does not have any intelligible and consistent concept regarding Ukraine

    And it is not and will not be: no one wants to take responsibility for a possible failure, so problems are thrown like a soccer ball, and everyone is completely satisfied with this situation.

    Tiny Israel, on the sands in the desert, grows vegetables and exports them to Russia.
    Either 70%, or 80% of the territory of the Netherlands was reclaimed from the sea.
    These are examples of how smart people can change unfavorable external conditions in their favor. I read the opus - Brussels, Washington, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine ... But leave her alone! Make yourself a normal life on your own land. If the mental capacity is not enough, see how others are doing and try to do the same. What is missing? If the question is about money, then take these cruiser-sized yachts under construction. And talk less about braces, the victories of ancestors and a thousand-year history.
    1. Xuli (o) Tebenado 27 February 2021 14: 31
      +1
      Xuli (o) Tebenado 11 January 2021 20:03

      The water situation in Crimea is getting worse: hopes for precipitation have not materialized.
      According to Yanina Pavlenko, a territory for the installation has already been found, however, due to the lack of a Russian regulatory framework for the use of desalinated water, the head of the administration asked the Governor of Crimea Sergei Aksenov to give appropriate instructions

      I tried to establish a sequence of actions in this situation:
      1) An area is being sought for the construction of the facility;
      2) The head of the city administration asks the governor to give instructions;
      3) Huber gives appropriate instructions;
      4) A regulatory framework is being developed for the use of desalinated water.
      How many more approvals-orders-instructions-decisions-instructions are needed, I do not know exactly.
      But "for now (the water goes on), the horse (of thirst) will die." This is for sure.

      Found my old comment from January 11th. Then there was no precipitation, now there is precipitation ..
      Now I know for sure why there will be no desalinated water in Crimea soon: there is no regulatory framework for this in Russia, with all the ensuing consequences.
    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 27 February 2021 14: 37
      +1
      Quote: Xuli (o) Tebenado
      Tiny Israel, on the sands in the desert, grows vegetables and exports them to Russia.

      Xuli (o) Tebenado, regarding Israel, clarification:

      In the region of 2005, the total volume of American financial assistance to Israel reached $ 140 billion. It should also be borne in mind that the economic prosperity of the State of Israel was largely supported by financial "injections" from Germany. We are talking about the reparations of Germany. By 1995, the volume of such reparations had already amounted to 100 billion marks. German reparations still arrive in Israel today (2014). In some years, these reparations accounted for up to 40% of the budgetary revenues of the Jewish state2. The state of Israel is not viable without massive outside assistance.
      1. Xuli (o) Tebenado 27 February 2021 15: 04
        0
        These quotes of your agitprop-about nothing. I can give a lot of examples that you can screw up any money... Yes, you know that without me.
        I think that Russia itself, without oil and gas reserves, would be more viable than the current one: the absence of hydrocarbons would force it to master the production of high-tech products.
    3. Rinat Offline Rinat
      Rinat (Rinat) 28 February 2021 08: 45
      +3
      Quote: Xuli (o) Tebenado
      Either 70%, or 80% of the territory of the Netherlands was reclaimed from the sea.
      These are examples of how smart people can change unfavorable external conditions in their favor.

      Judging by your words, we are "stupid". For your information, we have a tremendous experience in transforming an unfavorable climate. In the 40-50-60s in the south of the RSFSR and the Ukrainian SSR, 6 million hectares of forests were planted in the form of forest belts, tens of thousands of dams and stakes were built for collecting and storing water. As a result, the regular dry winds, which for centuries devastated even the central regions of Russia, stopped. The last severe and widespread drought was in 2010. but its strength cannot be compared, for example, with the droughts of the 30s, when millions of our citizens died of hunger.

      Quote: Xuli (o) Tebenado
      And talk less about braces, the victories of ancestors and a thousand-year history.

      The previous example of climate change in the USSR is our property, this is one of our bonds. And let's give your advice to the Jews in Israel, for example, and we'll see how they tear your ass on the British flag.
    4. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 28 February 2021 09: 22
      0
      Tiny Israel, on the sands in the desert, grows vegetables and exports them to Russia.
      Either 70%, or 80% of the territory of the Netherlands was reclaimed from the sea.

      Note, the approach is different, Israel does not reclaim territory in the seas, and the Dutch do not grow potatoes in the sand. Conditions in Russia are also different. Blind copying is not suitable for us. Agriculture in Russia is developing steadily. Russia is a net exporter of food, the export of agricultural products is greater than arms and gas through the Gazprom pipeline. Everything goes on as usual. What does not suit you? What is not being done fast enough that others could not?

      I read the opus - Brussels, Washington, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine ... But leave her alone!

      In fact of the matter. The land is not alien, it makes no difference to look at how everyone is being ruined quite difficult.

      Make yourself a normal life on your own land

      What an interesting mantra. Leave us alone, do not bother us to plunder, destroy and grow a monster directed against you. Will not work. We will pull all this abomination into the light. We are building a normal life on our land, but no one heeds your advice, no one is going to leave us alone.

      If the mental capacity is not enough, see how others are doing and try to do the same. What is missing?

      What and from whom does he learn? Who had similar conditions? See how the Netherlands developed under the sanctions?

      If the question is about money, then take these cruiser-sized yachts under construction.

      Let's take a look at the experience of Israel and the Netherlands on your advice. smile How many yachts were squeezed there and when? Is this the secret of their success? What is not? request

      And talk less about braces, the victories of ancestors and a thousand-year history.

      You forgot to ask about what to "pickle" sad You want to forbid us to talk about the heroic past of our ancestors?
  7. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 27 February 2021 14: 25
    -1
    How to answer? Like the Jews who seized the Golan heights in their time. And it is cheaper to throw a couple of Iskanders over a dam that blocked the flow of water.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 27 February 2021 17: 18
      -3
      alexey alexeyev_2... This is not the first time on the Reporter website persons of unknown nationality are pushing Russians to the idea of ​​using force against Ukraine.
      1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 28 February 2021 16: 13
        0
        Why an unknown nationality? Russian. I'm not pushing anyone. They are pushing those who deprived the citizens of Crimea of ​​water. Thirsty torture was included in the arsenal of the inquisitors
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 28 February 2021 17: 41
          -1
          When I wrote to you, I thought that there are people whose goal is war between our peoples. To their provocation, you offer what they want - wars.
          PS I do not consider Zelensky, Kolomoisky ... Ukrainians.
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  9. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 27 February 2021 18: 18
    -2
    There was a chance (still is) for the current Kremlin leaders to remain in the history of the Russian state. But no. The dollar-counting pens, wet with fear, eclipsed the mind. Peter I is remembered for the "window to Europe", the victory over the Swedes. And these, the current ones, for what to remember? Not a single victory over real enemies, the flag, coat of arms, anthem are prohibited. Everyone spits in the face: Ukrainians, Moldovans, Armenians, and everyone. What is the use of this army if it pisses at the thought of walking 15 km. across the steppe and open a dam for the Crimea?
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  10. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 27 February 2021 20: 31
    -2
    Again, they talk about the old topic.
    And questions and answers have long been known ..
    But in the Five, prices have risen again, despite the President's order .... that's real.
    1. Xuli (o) Tebenado 28 February 2021 07: 43
      +1
      And what has "grown" there? I rarely go there, so I'm not in the subject. I remember that sugar dropped to 43 rubles, the cheapest sunflower oil stopped at 80 rubles.
  11. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 27 February 2021 23: 19
    -3
    But in the Five, prices have risen again, despite the President's order .... that's real.

    It's all from the same opera. A person who received power through pull. Not fighting for her, not promising anything for her. The man is paid by the oligarchs. Already children have grown up with those children who were born with the present. The highest positions in the country are treated indifferently (in any way). What do you want from him? Which Peter I, which Catherine II? In 10-15 years they will not remember.
    1. Xuli (o) Tebenado 28 February 2021 07: 51
      -2
      In 10-15 years they will not remember.

      Thanks to the zeroing focus in 10-15 years, the current one will still be "in business."
      1. Division Offline Division
        Division (Division) 28 February 2021 08: 32
        +3
        And what's wrong with that? I voted for him. Nobody forbids you to vote for Zyuganov.
  12. Mykola Onishchenko (Mykola Onishchenko) 28 February 2021 03: 19
    -7
    Marzhetsky, neither the UN, nor no one in the world recognized the legality of your nationwide referendum, but on the contrary, recognized that Russia annexed Crimea, and the referendum was absolutely illegal. what kind of "genocide" is out of the question. And few people are interested in what a deputy of a party in the Bundestag blew up.
    1. Division Offline Division
      Division (Division) 28 February 2021 08: 30
      +1
      Well, yes, in Crimea entirely titular Ukrainians live, and there are dumb Russians. They all want to be banned from teaching children in their native language, so that the Nazis with the Bandera flag would walk the streets. And the fact that Nenka took them into the blockade, so all the Crimeans are only grateful ...) It was not you who conquered the Crimea, it is not for you to open your mouth to it. For some reason, your "mir" is keeping quiet about Kosovo. Taiwan, too, de jure was not recognized by anyone. So what?
      1. Mykola Onishchenko (Mykola Onishchenko) 28 February 2021 09: 16
        -4
        You are wrong about Taiwan, take an interest in the topic. In general, they talked about the international recognition of the "referendum", and so it was not, is not and will not be in the foreseeable future. So, from the point of view of international laws, you are occupiers and are obliged to take care of the life support of Crimea, including the provision of fresh water.
  13. Rinat Offline Rinat
    Rinat (Rinat) 28 February 2021 08: 15
    +4
    The author of the article, Sergei Marzhetskiy, uses a schizophrenic method of presenting material in which the brain "explodes" in an inexperienced reader with a sufficient amount of information or a faint-hearted reader. He emphasizes two mutually exclusive and unsuitable for Russia ways of solving, keeping silent that there are other ways. ... The roots of this problem were laid back during the 1st World War of the 20th century. There is no easy solution to the Ukrainian question. This is a whole range of steps in the economic, financial, military, political, humanitarian and other spheres. The main goal of creating Bandera under-state is, first of all, the all-round weakening of Russia. This is an attempt to engage it in a really fratricidal war, while doing this so that Russia also pays for this war out of its own pocket. This insidious plan has long been revealed, and now we see: that the collective West is forced to maintain this vile formation itself, Russia has not appeared in the war and is preparing for the impending denouement.
  14. Division Offline Division
    Division (Division) 28 February 2021 08: 25
    +2
    I did not understand what the author wanted to offer. To spite grandmother to freeze ears?
  15. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 28 February 2021 09: 09
    -3
    Russia never came to the war and is preparing for the impending denouement

    Now let's not talk about the strategists from the General Staff who were planning an operation in the Crimea. Not smart enough to think about water supply? Didn't know the hohlyatsky nature of "I won't eat, so I bite"? The window has not yet closed. Take the canal, establish a sanitary zone on both sides. Let the GSh think about the width of the zone. Ukrainian land users are allowed into the sanitary zone. Travel for civilians is unimpeded. But no military supplies. The southern transit for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is blocked. There will be no air raids or missile strikes by the Armed Forces of Ukraine due to absence (destruction). Artillery can be dealt with using helicopters. Chubates will not die for the water of the Dnieper. Everything will calm down quickly. Besides howling in Kiev and in the West. But both those and those that Russia can still know will already be known!
    This will be the beginning of the revival of Novorossiya. And by the forces of the Ukrainians themselves.
    1. Mykola Onishchenko (Mykola Onishchenko) 28 February 2021 09: 19
      -4
      Are you going to fight from the couch yourself, mommy strategist?
  16. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 28 February 2021 10: 14
    -3
    Do you think there will be Stalingrad or the Battle of Berlin? Everything will be simple and casual. After the first treatment with TOZ "Solntsepek" ukrovoiny, dropping feces, will run. Why should they die? For the water of the Dnieper, for Zelensky, for poverty?
    1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) 28 February 2021 10: 52
      -3
      Do you think there will be Stalingrad or the Battle of Berlin? Everything will be simple and casual. After the first treatment of TOZ "Solntsepek" ukrovoiny will run away. Why should they die? For the water of the Dnieper, for Zelensky, for poverty?

      - Yes, exactly ... - there will be "Stalingrad" ... and a terrible "meat grinder" ...
      - Personally, I'm just amazed ... - how naive are many here ... here ... here they argue ...
      - Ukraine and Russia do not have a joint "future" ... - all these "brotherly relations" are gone forever ...
      - Of course ... - after this "not very long Stalingrad" .... = today's mutual hostility will give way to mutual hatred ... - Who is there and how "will win" ... - but only one thing is clear ... - split will only increase ...
      - And what can you do if the enemies managed to reformat the consciousness of the inhabitants of Ukraine; change their "bios" ... - And in vain do many hope that in Ukraine, supposedly today there are Russians and Ukrainians ... - there are no more Russians ... - In 15-20 years, no one there will speak Russian ... - Ukrainian youth fully and completely picked up this "initiative" ... - And now all of Ukraine speaks Ukrainian ... - Russian-speaking time in Ukraine is over ... - it ended even when millions of Russians did not come to the streets of the cities of Ukraine did not arrange massive endless protests, demonstrations ... - about the prohibition of the Russian language ... - Everyone kept silent and no one else in Ukraine will learn Russian and speak it ... - And where to learn it. .. - there are no schools or educational institutions where they teach in Russian ...
      - It's just that the people have not yet realized the full scale of the monstrous catastrophe that happened in Ukraine ...
      - Yes, there will be a "new Stalingrad" and "partisans" speaking MOV ... and so on ...
      - One can only imagine ... - how in Russia (and not only in Russia) this time will be cursed ... - the time of the reign of our incompetent guarantor and his associates (greedy oligarchs) ... - there is no, always criticized Khrushchev ... - does not compare ...
      1. Mykola Onishchenko (Mykola Onishchenko) 28 February 2021 13: 01
        -5
        You may not believe it, but in Kiev they speak Russian to themselves right on the streets and are not even afraid that the SBU will do something to them. As for the partisans, I can agree. This is not 2014, there are no more “brotherly peoples” and never will be.
        1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
          gorenina91 (Irina) 28 February 2021 13: 19
          -2
          You may not believe it, but in Kiev they speak Russian to themselves right on the streets and are not even afraid that the SBU will do something to them.

          - Personally, I can remind the entire venerable public of Armenia ... - where today the locals already literally "cannot connect two words in Russian" ... - The same will soon happen in Kiev ... - of course, Armenian is very different from Russian and Ukrainian; but everything is going according to the same "plan-scenario" and the "curators" are still the same ... -Yes, you yourself, Mr. Mikola Onishchenko (Mikola Onishchenko) ... - very soon you will even start to intersperse MOV with Russian here ... - And what will happen in five years; when Ukrainian kindergarteners go to school; schoolchildren will go to universities ... - where everything is taught ... - kindergarten - school - university ... - in Ukrainian; and all TV channels broadcast on the same ...
          - Already today all the youth of Georgia do not know the Russian language (and are intensively studying English); the same is the case in Bulgaria ...
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  17. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 28 February 2021 16: 19
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    Yes Yes. Mighty ukrovoiny. I liked the partisans. All this is solved by the chipping of the natives. For trying to remove the chip, he was sentenced to labor camps. Chipization - oil painting. Who was when and where. The entire partisan movement will collapse in an instant. Gradually the chubby lads will calm down (there is no reception against the crowbar) and will sit in the garden as before and drink moonshine from the beet. Well, go to work.
    1. Mykola Onishchenko (Mykola Onishchenko) 28 February 2021 16: 28
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      Hitler also dreamed of something similar. Tell me how he finished or ask yourself?
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  19. marciz Offline marciz
    marciz (Stas) 1 March 2021 05: 50
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    Russia has become entangled in its policies. The Russians drive the Jews out of the Kremlin !!!!
  20. Tektor Offline Tektor
    Tektor (Tektor) 1 March 2021 14: 40
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    And Russia is already making reservoirs to supply the Crimea with water. Just now Belbekskoe began to fill with water. Chernorechenskoye is filling up at an accelerated pace. But a reliable water supply can only be provided by a desalination plant. Although I would create condensation, this is when sea air saturated with water vapor is blown by a powerful fan through a long heat exchanger-condenser radiator with a temperature of about 4 ° C. And that's all. It turns out immediately that water is close to distillation and it needs to be fertilized with useful minerals.
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  24. marciz Offline marciz
    marciz (Stas) 2 March 2021 09: 26
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    Worthless even for water can not earn !!!! Drink water from puddles !!!! But you hold on !!!!!
  25. Blast Offline Blast
    Blast (Vladimir) 3 March 2021 16: 40
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    If Ukraine is Europe, then gas should be sold on the border with Russia to all interested European countries. Let Europe agree among itself how much for transit to Ukraine and control the delivery in transit.