Israel's arms purchases speak of imminent war in the Middle East


For several weeks, speculation lasted about the possibility of a large order by the Israelis of new American military aircraft. It has now emerged that the Israeli government has approved plans by the military to purchase another squadron of F-35I stealth fighters and a pair of KC-46 Pegasus tanker aircraft from the United States, writes the American edition of Military Watch.


In addition, Tel Aviv has approved the purchase of new heavy-duty helicopters, although their class remains uncertain. The contenders are Boeing CH-47 Chinook and Sikorsky CH-53K King Stallion.

Tensions with Iran have been cited as a major factor in the urgent modernization of Israel's air force. Most of Iran's territory is out of reach of Israeli fighters.

Tel Aviv's arms purchases indicate the possibility of an imminent war. Tankers KS-46 will allow the Israeli Air Force to reach any targets throughout Iran, increasing the offensive potential. Israel has about 200 F-16s and about 20 F-35I units (50 units were previously ordered).

Tehran has one of the most powerful air defense systems in the Middle East. This is probably what influenced Tel Aviv's decision to spend additional money on the F-35I. This fighter is better suited to combat ground-based air defense systems.

However, the F-35 is still very far from full combat readiness and is criticized even by the Pentagon for a lot of problematic points. The US military is thinking about reducing the order by 40% from the planned level.

In addition, there is information that the Iranians tracked F-35s flying near the borders of the country using the Russian radar "Resonance-NE", designed just to detect stealth aircraft.

The Israeli purchase comes after the Donald Trump administration provided Tel Aviv with $ 2020 billion in aid in 3,3 through the Foreign Defense Funding Initiative (FMF), according to which most of the money is to be spent on weapons from the United States.
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  1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 24 February 2021 19: 21
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    Tel Aviv decided, Tel Aviv was given ... As a resident of Jerusalem, I am interested in when Jerusalem will be decided and Jerusalem will be given? fellow
    1. 123 Online 123
      123 (123) 24 February 2021 20: 54
      +4
      Tel Aviv decided, Tel Aviv was given ... As a resident of Jerusalem, I am interested in when Jerusalem will be decided and Jerusalem will be given?

      Probably when Palestine starts buying weapons smile laughing
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 24 February 2021 21: 30
        -5
        Quote: 123
        Probably when Palestine starts buying weapons

        So never ... Who will let them? lol
        1. 123 Online 123
          123 (123) 24 February 2021 21: 47
          +3
          So never ... Who will let them?

          Life will show. This is if they ask.
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 24 February 2021 22: 06
            -5
            Quote: 123
            Life will show.

            Life will show exactly what we see fit. laughing
          2. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
            Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 24 February 2021 23: 45
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            Quote: 123
            So never ... Who will let them?

            Life will show. This is if they ask.

            Would you like to fantasize? Look at the map. The Palestinian Authority is located in the ring of Israeli borders, therefore, even theoretically, terrorists will not be able to obtain weapons. Moreover, no one is trying to do this on the territory of the autonomy. Gaza has a border with Egypt. But the brothers, the Egyptians, would rather strangle all of Hamas in Gaza and their Iranian accomplices with their own hands, rather than allow Persian weapons to enter the Gaza Strip. And the Israeli navy has already intercepted Iranian arms convoys to Gaza. 1000 kilometers from their shores. And the Iranian escort - two frigates fled shamefully. When the Jewish missile carriers made an unambiguous maneuver: increased readiness for a missile attack. And now, just before Purim, they bought a present for the Persians. Those are probably happy. As from the time of the liquidation of Fakhridzade, they have not yet rejoiced.
            1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
              Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 24 February 2021 23: 47
              -3
              Typos: Hamas rather than
        2. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 25 February 2021 00: 08
          +3
          Quote: Bindyuzhnik
          So never ... Who will let them?

          God will allow, Bindyuzhnik. He's not the first time to punish your tribe.
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 25 February 2021 02: 57
            -4
            Aha, pray earnestly in your mosque. laughing laughing laughing
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  2. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 24 February 2021 20: 45
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    It has long been known: "If you want peace, prepare for war!"
    Israel, unlike Iran, is not trying to get close to the Persian borders. For now, he is forced to strike at the positions of Iranian missilemen on their borders. But "if tomorrow is a war, if tomorrow is a campaign, be ready for a campaign today!" ... From there and the acquisitions listed in the publication. And in general: "The tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it - a lesson for Iranian fellows!" Concerning the capital of Israel: eternal and indivisible Jerusalem. The Israeli media reported that countries that have recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel will receive hundreds of thousands of doses of Moderna vaccine for free, or for a nominal fee. Among these countries: Czech Republic, Hungary, Italy (!), Honduras.
    1. 123 Online 123
      123 (123) 24 February 2021 20: 56
      +4
      The Israeli media reported that countries that have recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel will receive hundreds of thousands of doses of Moderna vaccine for free, or for a nominal fee. Among these countries: Czech Republic, Hungary, Italy (!), Honduras.

      Honduras north or south? smile Ukraine was not offered? request
      1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 24 February 2021 23: 25
        -1
        Quote: 123
        The Israeli media reported that countries that have recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel will receive hundreds of thousands of doses of Moderna vaccine for free, or for a nominal fee. Among these countries: Czech Republic, Hungary, Italy (!), Honduras.

        Honduras north or south? smile Ukraine was not offered? request

        I don’t know about northern Honduras, but that one of the states of North America - the United States (you may have heard - there is such a thing), decided to move the embassy to Jerusalem. And recognized it as the capital of the state of Israel. By the way, it's not just Honduras. Another 15 states are ready to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel for the Israeli soup from "Moderna". And Iran will also receive, according to the publication, what is due to it. And nobody will help. Because from the taiga to the British seas, the Jewish army is the strongest ...)
    2. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 24 February 2021 22: 02
      -3
      Quote: Rogue1812
      It has long been known: "If you want peace, prepare for war!"
      Israel, unlike Iran, is not trying to get close to the Persian borders. For now, he is forced to strike at the positions of Iranian missilemen on their borders. But "if tomorrow is a war, if tomorrow is a campaign, be ready for a campaign today!" ...

      Just today I was looking through the historical materials on the period on the eve of the Six Day War and again thought about how the world, our region and Israel's position in the international arena have changed. Once hostile to Israel, Arab countries are racing to normalize relations with the Jewish state, Egypt and Jordan are now peaceful neighbors, Syria as a single state does not exist, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi have long basked in the arms of the gurias, and who is the Hero of the Soviet Union Gamal Abdel Nasser, nobody anymore remembers. Even the main friend of all progressive leaders of a socialist orientation, the world's first state of workers and peasants, has become history. Time is working for Israel. hi
      1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 24 February 2021 23: 36
        -3
        Quote: Bindyuzhnik
        Quote: Rogue1812
        It has long been known: "If you want peace, prepare for war!"
        Israel, unlike Iran, is not trying to get close to the Persian borders. For now, he is forced to strike at the positions of Iranian missilemen on their borders. But "if tomorrow is a war, if tomorrow is a campaign, be ready for a campaign today!" ...

        Just today I was looking through the historical materials on the period on the eve of the Six Day War and again thought about how the world, our region and Israel's position in the international arena have changed. Once hostile to Israel, Arab countries are racing to normalize relations with the Jewish state, Egypt and Jordan are now peaceful neighbors, Syria as a single state does not exist, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi have long basked in the arms of the gurias, and who is the Hero of the Soviet Union Gamal Abdel Nasser, nobody anymore remembers. Even the main friend of all progressive leaders of a socialist orientation, the world's first state of workers and peasants, has become history. Time is working for Israel. hi

        Totally agree with you. Iran was cornered. Sits and does not blather. And all alone. And the fact that Israel is buying up serious equipment is an indicator that Tehran has no other option but "gnashing its teeth in impotent rage." And the fact that our tiny but proud state survived, the fact that the former enemies became allies is the merit of the Jewish people. As the poet wrote: "He forced himself to respect and could not invent better!"
      2. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 25 February 2021 18: 33
        +1
        Actually, it seems to me that time is working against Israel. But I will not argue. Time itself will tell.
  3. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 24 February 2021 21: 37
    +3
    The Iranian military launched ballistic missiles, hitting targets at a distance of 1,8 kilometers, Tasnim reported.

    https://ria.ru/20210116/rakety-1593305787.html
    So Iran is also preparing. If it hits the airfields, then Israel and the planes may not remain.
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 24 February 2021 22: 52
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      Quote: steel maker
      The Iranian military launched ballistic missiles, hitting targets at a distance of 1,8 kilometers, Tasnim reported.

      https://ria.ru/20210116/rakety-1593305787.html
      So Iran is also preparing. If it hits the airfields, then Israel and the planes may not remain.

      If .... This is the main message of your posts. Iran is weaker than Israel in all respects. Of course, Iran also has opportunities that Israel cannot ignore. Among them :
      1. religious fanaticism;
      2. striking directly from the territories bordering with Israel;
      3. to my greatest regret, the defeat of the Great Trump - the best, sincere and most devoted friend and ally of Israel in its entire history.
      These factors are obvious. These publications are Israel's counterplay and Iran's warning. I think the Persians will appreciate it.
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 24 February 2021 23: 46
        +2
        Iran is weaker than Israel in all respects.

        But Kedmi believes that Israel is not capable of waging a war with Iran by conventional means. I somehow believe him more.
        1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 24 February 2021 23: 58
          -2
          Quote: boriz
          Iran is weaker than Israel in all respects.

          But Kedmi believes that Israel is not capable of waging a war with Iran by conventional means. I somehow believe him more.

          Not only Kedmi. There is also "Stalevar", "123". So you have grounds for optimism. How at one time at the General Staff of the USSR Ministry of Defense that the Arab armies with one coordinated strike, in the presence of absolute superiority in manpower and equipment, will destroy the "Zionist formation" Destroyed? Kedmi speak. Oh well...)
          1. boriz Offline boriz
            boriz (boriz) 25 February 2021 00: 22
            +3
            Kedmi, just in the Yom Kippur War, fought as the chief of intelligence and operational department of a tank battalion, where the battalion commander was Ehud Barak. He knows what he's talking about. Knows the current state of the army. I trust him more than you.
            1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
              Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 February 2021 01: 50
              0
              Kedmi did not define Israel's victory in the Yom Kippur War. And the brilliant operations of the IDF commanders to destroy enemy tanks in one of the largest tank battles in the history of mankind, a unique strike at the junction of the 2nd and 3rd Egyptian armies. As well as the formation of a channel and the destruction of the layered Soviet air defense system. Who was Kedmi then ?! And certainly not Iran, with its scrap metal in the form of antiques of the Air Force and armored forces, compete with Israel.
            2. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 25 February 2021 03: 08
              0
              Quote: boriz
              I trust him more than you.

              Faith is a personal matter, keep it up ... hi
      2. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
        Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 25 February 2021 00: 27
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        Mr. Vagabond1812, I have recently smeared your fantasies about "the power of the Baltic states" and so on. nonsense recently. And I asked a few simple questions that you were not able to answer and "quickly reeled up your fishing rods." Also, here you yourself are trying to rub in completely theoretical reasoning and sign the country's weakness "in all positions" even without HAVING at least a somewhat coherent picture of the full capabilities of the Iranian Armed Forces. Moreover, the Persians have almost the MOST closed data on their armed forces. I do not argue that there are certain prerequisites for considering the Iranian Armed Forces as weak in aviation, for example. But unequivocally claim that they are in everything weaker is superfluous for sure. And you are clearly confusing xp @ new warriors of the Egyptians with the Persians. Just on land the Iranians are very strong and have a powerful fighting spirit. Moreover, Iran has an almost tenfold superiority in manpower against Israel and there is unlikely to be shaking for every lost soldier, like the Jews. In addition, China is behind Iran. So they will definitely not remain one on one. I remind you that it is precisely thanks to the significant help of the Iranians on land and their allies Hezbollah (and it was very difficult for the Jews to fight with them and the results of the last war were controversial), Assad was able to withstand. In addition, the Persians demonstrated how they can inflict heavy damage on the enemy with modern means, for example, the Saudis, who are also very well armed with the same Patriots and F15, as Israel, by the way.
        So don't say gop ... And if Iran is able to neutralize or at least significantly reduce Israel's air advantage, then everything will certainly not be so clear for Israel, and even more so about some kind of total defeat of Iran it will be possible not to fantasize ..
        1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 February 2021 01: 41
          -4
          To argue with you, do not respect yourself. Remember the phrase of the hero V.S. Vysotsky from the film "Two Comrades Served". Well, the one that begins with the words: "Calm down ..." and further in the text ...
          1. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
            Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 25 February 2021 02: 12
            +4
            this is called in the common people jumped off the topic and rotten excuses. The usual method of being caught in a typical lie, etc. demagogue and verbiage. You can boast of your respect for yourself as much as you want, but here it doesn’t scandalize anymore, and apart from the pathetic irony you do not deserve anything more. And I didn’t argue with you either, but ONLY asked leading questions that came from those OBVIOUS nonsense that you scribbled and obvious twists that you can EASILY double-check.

            the phrase of the hero V.S. Vysotsky from the film "Two Comrades Served". Well, the one that begins with the words: "Calm down ..." and further in the text .. "- I don’t remember.

            Because I haven't even watched this film. What an ambush, but Monsieur Vagabond1812?
        2. Cyril Offline Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 25 February 2021 02: 04
          0
          It is on land that the Iranians are very strong and have a powerful fighting spirit. And you are clearly confusing xp @ new warriors of the Egyptians with the Persians.

          How do you know how good the Iranians are, if in the 20th and early 21st centuries they participated in only one major war (Iranian-Iraqi), and there they shamelessly blew through Iraq?
          1. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
            Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 25 February 2021 02: 24
            +3
            I wrote directly about the last participation of the Persians in the Syrian company, where they showed themselves very worthy. This is time. Secondly, the Iranian-Iraqi war ended in a draw and the huge, by modern standards, the losses of the Persians did not bother Israel. can't stand it.
            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 25 February 2021 03: 23
              -3
              And what, in your opinion, are the achievements of the Persians in the Syrian war? The motley anti-Assad groups continue to operate, Iranian targets and their proxies are regularly subjected to unrequited Israeli air strikes, the Persians who have died as a result of these strikes have long gone by hundreds, and their protege Assad and his regime are barely alive.
              1. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
                Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 25 February 2021 04: 38
                +3
                Clearly. So even ... in the eyes - all the dew of God. The fact that Assad sat down and helped to take most of the country back under control does not count. For you, and if Tel Aviv is taken, and that will not be an achievement. Just think! After all, Jews are scattered all over the world and live in all the capitals of the world. Not everyone got it and that means this is not an achievement. Yes? And Assad has barely survived for 10 years since the beginning of the war, although his days were really numbered before the intervention of the Russian Federation and K. So?
                1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                  Cyril (Kirill) 25 February 2021 07: 05
                  -1
                  The fact that Assad sat down and helped to take control of most of the country back does not count.

                  Come on, Russia's support in this has played a much greater role than the Iranians.

                  Secondly, the Iranian-Iraqi war ended in a draw and the huge, by modern standards, losses of the Persians did not bother.

                  They were not so embarrassed that as soon as Iraq offered a thin, unprofitable peace to Iran on its own terms, Iran immediately accepted this peace.

                  Israel cannot bear such losses.

                  So he will not have such losses.
                  1. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
                    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 25 February 2021 13: 26
                    +2
                    On the ground, it was Iran with its proxy forces that provided the main support to Assad by people. Pokhod, you are poorly informed on this issue. On the Russian side, the main one is the Aerospace Forces.
                    What difference does it make who proposed what to whom in the Iranian-Iraqi war? I wrote about the outcome. The result: a draw. It's like in chess: one proposed, the other agreed or not. And the game will be either a draw or something.
                    Who will have what losses and how large in a possible hypothetical conflict is still unknown. Fortune-telling on the coffee grounds. How and what intensity it can be and what type.
                    1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                      Cyril (Kirill) 25 February 2021 13: 34
                      -1
                      On the ground, it was Iran with its proxy forces that provided the main human support to Assad.

                      And they fought a lot against ISIS until the Russian Aerospace Forces came there?

                      And in addition to the Aerospace Forces, there are also Russian mercenaries, who, I think, have more experience than the Iranians.

                      What difference does it make who proposed what to whom in the Iranian-Iraqi war? I wrote about the result. The result: a draw.

                      There was no "draw" there. You will read about this war and about the conditions under which peace was concluded between Iran and Iraq.
                      1. Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
                        Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 25 February 2021 15: 26
                        0
                        A significant part of the foreign ground forces is provided by Iran.
                        The main goal of which is to keep the obedient Assad, the alphabet in a predominantly Sunni country (Syria)
                      2. Cyril Offline Cyril
                        Cyril (Kirill) 25 February 2021 15: 37
                        -2
                        A significant part of the foreign ground forces is provided by Iran.

                        No one disputes the fact that there are many Iranians and pro-Iranian proxies in Syria. It was about how the Persians are skilled and experienced warriors to pose a serious threat to Israel
              2. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 25 February 2021 17: 19
                -1
                Quote: Barmaley_2
                For you and if Tel Aviv is taken, it will not be an achievement.

                They really laughed about the capture of Tel Aviv - the talent of a humorist died in you. bully
      3. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
        Alexzn (Alexander) 25 February 2021 12: 35
        +1
        You don't have to be a special strategist to understand the balance of opportunities. Iran is not Israel's level. Israel can attack and cause great damage to Iran, much more than vice versa, BUT (!!!) ...
        Israel is not ready for a hot war for survival with Iran, due to its lack of faith in the strategic threat to its existence. Iran also understands that it is not worth bringing the conflict to a level where Israel realizes all of its current advantage. Time is still working for Iran, and Israel only pushes the problems aside, which is reasonable - you see, either the padishah or the donkey will die.
        1. Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
          Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 25 February 2021 20: 50
          +1
          Let me also remind you that Israel has nuclear weapons (about 100 warheads).
          1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
            Alexzn (Alexander) 25 February 2021 21: 01
            0
            I think much more.
  • Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 24 February 2021 23: 57
    0
    Air defense alone will not save Iran against the Jews without the development of a normal air force, and the Persians have big problems with this. And the shield is always weaker than the sword. And even in a few years you can't build a modern air force. So the Persians are going to have even more serious problems than they were.
    1. Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
      Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 25 February 2021 15: 25
      0
      "Persians" does not display the picture quite correctly.
      Power has been seized and continues to be held by Islamic fundamentalists, and this determines all foreign and domestic policy.
      And the main postulate of the external is the inadmissibility of the existence of Israel.
  • Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 24 February 2021 23: 58
    +1
    Quote: steel maker
    The Iranian military launched ballistic missiles, hitting targets at a distance of 1,8 kilometers, Tasnim reported.

    https://ria.ru/20210116/rakety-1593305787.html
    So Iran is also preparing. If it hits the airfields, then Israel and the planes may not remain.

    it is necessary that the missiles also fly over and not be shot down by the Israeli air defense, and their air defense is no worse than the Iranian
    1. Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
      Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 25 February 2021 15: 22
      0
      In terms of technology (Israel) is definitely better.
      1. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
        Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 26 February 2021 00: 31
        0
        yes, but the Persians can take the quantity of another, and not the quality
  • Diver d Offline Diver d
    Diver d (Oleg) 25 February 2021 00: 54
    0
    Tel Aviv's arms purchases indicate the possibility of an imminent war. Tankers KS-46 will allow the Israeli Air Force to reach any targets throughout Iran, increasing the offensive potential. Israel has about 200 F-16s and about 20 F-35I units (50 units were previously ordered).

    It seemed to me that the author was slightly mistaken. As far as I know, 75 fighters have been planned to date. Three F-35I Adir AS-25, AS-26 and AS-27 are expected to arrive in March. At least four more should fly to Israel within a year.


    Flight tested AS-26 (B / N 941)

    In addition, according to the IsraelDefence website, (https://www.israeldefense.co.il/node/48516), options for the purchase of fighters are being considered F-15 IA (Boeing)designed for Israel. The F-15IA provides an impressive combination of power and range, enabling the State of Israel to attack targets far beyond the reach of most of the world's Air Force. Fitted with select Israeli technology, the F-15IA will also contain a number of new features, including higher firepower.

    Additional features such as Fly by Wire steering and control system, AESA APG-82 radar, electronic combat and warning sensor housing, missile attack warning systems, cockpit and digital helmet display, infrared detection and search system.


    In addition, it is considered for purchase Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey - This is a vertical takeoff and landing, virtually anywhere, without the need for a runway, which is an important advantage in the battle arena. opportunity
    fast departure of special forces directly to the target or place of battle. Two engines, speed 270 knots (about 500 km / h), range of about 500 nautical miles, depending on flight configuration.


    Well, and lastly, supporters-opponents strikes of the Liechtenstein air force on Syria. There is a high probability that one of the pro-Iranians will not see the dawn tonight.
    1. Javid Amonov Offline Javid Amonov
      Javid Amonov (Javid Amonov) 9 May 2021 23: 46
      0
      Each Persian has two Jews!
  • Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
    Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 25 February 2021 15: 18
    +1
    Tehran has one of the most powerful air defense systems in the Middle East.

    In 1991, Hussein had one of the most powerful air defense systems in the region, let me remind you.
  • PRAVDORU, 2 Offline PRAVDORU, 2
    PRAVDORU, 2 (PRAVDORUB) 20 May 2021 05: 23
    0
    Quote: Cyril
    The fact that Assad sat down and helped to take control of most of the country back does not count.

    Come on, Russia's support in this has played a much greater role than the Iranians.

    Secondly, the Iranian-Iraqi war ended in a draw and the huge, by modern standards, losses of the Persians did not bother.

    They were not so embarrassed that as soon as Iraq offered a thin, unprofitable peace to Iran on its own terms, Iran immediately accepted this peace.

    Israel cannot bear such losses.

    So he will not have such losses.

    Iraq offered a bad peace, because its fighting fervor and advantages were gone after 3 months, Iran hit TC so that Saddam decided to end his adventure.
  • PRAVDORU, 2 Offline PRAVDORU, 2
    PRAVDORU, 2 (PRAVDORUB) 20 May 2021 05: 25
    0
    Quote: Barmaley_2
    this is called in the common people jumped off the topic and rotten excuses. The usual method of being caught in a typical lie, etc. demagogue and verbiage. You can boast of your respect for yourself as much as you want, but here it doesn’t scandalize anymore, and apart from the pathetic irony you do not deserve anything more. And I didn’t argue with you either, but ONLY asked leading questions that came from those OBVIOUS nonsense that you scribbled and obvious twists that you can EASILY double-check.

    the phrase of the hero V.S. Vysotsky from the film "Two Comrades Served". Well, the one that begins with the words: "Calm down ..." and further in the text .. "- I don’t remember.

    Because I haven't even watched this film. What an ambush, but Monsieur Vagabond1812?

    Bravo! Washed