Su-57 conducted the first "air battle" with the Su-35

February 24 2021 16

The two best fighters of recent times, developed by PJSC "Company" Sukhoi ", Su-57 and Su-35, conducted the first training" air battle ". The corresponding story was shown on February 23, 2021 in the Vremya program on Channel One.

The flights were made by the Su-35S (tail number 12, red), the factory prototype of the Su-57 (tail number 510, blue) and the first serial Su-57 (tail number 01, blue), which was transferred to the troops in December 2020.

It is clarified that the video was filmed near the Akhtubinsk airfield in the Astrakhan region in February this year. It belongs to the 929th GLITs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation named after V.P. Chkalov and is used for training flights of military aviation. Not far from it, just 20 km away, is the largest aviation training ground in Russia - Groshevo.

In addition, the participation of the aforementioned prototype in flights indicates that Russian developers and the military could conduct concomitant testing of some new systems, programs, assemblies, sensors or assemblies. Thus, the matter was not limited to one colorful "air battle" and elements of aerobatics.

The improvement of combat aviation is an ongoing process. At the same time, one of the fighters could well imitate some side of our probable "partners" who tirelessly move their military infrastructure closer to the borders of Russia.

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123

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24 February 2021 14: 38

In addition, the participation of the aforementioned prototype in flights

A small clarification, this is no longer a prototype.
1. Kristallovich
  
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  24 February 2021 15: 36
  
  A prototype is always a prototype. This is not a production aircraft. And not a combatant.
  1. 123
    
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    24 February 2021 16: 19
    
    You are probably right, I watched the video again, it shows two Su-57s, side number 01 blue, the very same fighter that was transferred to the troops and the Su-57 side number 510, blue (the number is visible on the footage in the air).
gorenina91

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24 February 2021 19: 11

Su-57 conducted the first "air battle" with the Su-35

- Personally, I don't understand anything ... - what maneuverability; what an advantage ... - Is that ... - again: "Vanya attack, I'll cover my tail !!!" ??? - What kind of "maneuverable air battles" can there be ???
= Yes, a swarm of Chinese fighters (our yesterday's "prototypes"); on their not very high-quality (so far) "disposable" aircraft engines, they will simply throw rockets at our lonely highly maneuverable and multifunctional super fighters ... - And besides the Chinese, Russian pilots will hardly have to face anyone in "air battles" ...
- Well, you can also watch the video with our literally "dancing" (as in slow motion) a few meters above the ground with our military aircraft ... - the impression is simply amazing !!!
- But what does this whole "circus" have to do with air battles and the performance of combat missions assigned to our Aerospace Forces ???
1. Chernomorr
  
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  25 February 2021 02: 48
  
  We have with China an almost comparable number of fighters, 800 grew. and 1200kit. Take away the Chinese trash, and you will get 800kit. Our air defense is also not sour. Ours have experience, and whales have. no, the exercises are good, but worse by an order of magnitude than the Air Force, which is taking part in the military conflict. And then, do you consider yourself smarter than combat pilots, the General Staff, and designers? What is this idiotic crying for? And what is typical, all your comments are on the same wavelength.
  1. gorenina91
    
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    25 February 2021 03: 05
    
    Ours have experience, and whales have. no, exercises are good, but worse by an order of magnitude
    
    - What experience ??? - Experience of air battles ??? - What kind of battles ??? - With hot Syrian sand ??? - This is yours, most likely "rich experience" ... - rich experience in making coffee in Turkish ... - this is when on the hot sand ... - So prepare yourself what you can ... - and you yourself don't climb there, about which you have little idea ...
    1. Chernomorr
      
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      25 February 2021 03: 18
      
      Why are you hysterical? Are you a pilot of the Russian Air Force?
    2. Chernomorr
      
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      25 February 2021 03: 20
      
      You have no positive attitude towards business in Russia as such. Miserable ...
    3. Chernomorr
      
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      25 February 2021 03: 32
      
      - What experience ??? - Experience of air battles ??? - What kind of battles ??? - With hot Syrian sand ??? - This is most likely "rich experience" for you.
      
      The Chinese do not have that either. What are your conclusions based on, about the Chinese strength. When I hear about how the Chinese will seize our land, I just laugh. I say, look at the map - Mongolia, 1,5 million square kilometers, a lot of minerals, and an army of 15 thousand people. Whom are you going to rob - a rocking with a nuclear club, or a shepherd with arrows? They are silent ...
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    5. boriz
      
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      25 February 2021 10: 43
      
      Irina, there is such a word: "courage". The Russian army has it. In Chinese, it has a minus sign.
      This very courage is worth a double advantage.
      Plus a positive experience. If we take history after WWII, our army has it.
      But the Chinese ...
      Nobody knows how the Chinese army will fight. Including the leadership of China.
      In post-war history, the Chinese army did not show itself on the positive side.
      In the Korean War, they served as cannon fodder. Amers were pushed in number. Under the cover of our aviation. And our flyers in this war brilliantly completed their task, which prevented the third world war.
      The last war was in 1979. It would be better if it weren't. They attacked long-suffering Vietnam when its army went to Laos and Cambodia to deal with Pol Pot. They fought mainly with the militia. The war was blown through one wicket. It's all!
      Ours invited them to participate in Syria. They promised to fit the aircraft carrier. Didn't dare.
      This is not to mention the technical superiority of our aviation.
      As for experience, in addition to personal skill, you need experience of support services in a real combat situation. Otherwise, it will turn out that airplanes will not be able to fly.
      The Chinese understand all this perfectly. That is why they cut wood in Russia, and did not climb into Mongolia and do not climb. Although, for them it is Outer Mongolia, in contrast to Inner Mongolia, which is in China. That is, a purely temporary misunderstanding. Like the southern Kuriles for the Japanese. But they don't.
      Like Finland, no one really sharpens their teeth at Finland, but China is constantly looking at Mongolia, drooling. The Mongols know very well what will happen to them in China. And they prefer to sit under the protection of Russia, which will definitely not touch it. They cooperate with whoever they want, they just follow a few rules so as not to create problems for Russia.
      And China suffers.
2. asr55
  
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  25 February 2021 17: 08
  
  Yeah, you just don't understand!
Sergey Latyshev

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24 February 2021 23: 43

And why not a word - who won that? What is the score?
Or again ....?
I haven't watched the video, but they usually write if anything worthwhile ...
1. Chernomorr
  
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  25 February 2021 03: 37
  
  I haven't watched the video, but they usually write if anything worthwhile ...
  
  Epic !!! I have not looked, but I condemn. So look, poor wretch!
Michael1950

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25 February 2021 19: 59

Quote: gorenina91
Su-57 conducted the first "air battle" with the Su-35

- Personally, I don't understand anything ... - what maneuverability; what an advantage ... - Is that ... - again: "Vanya attack, I'll cover my tail !!!" ??? - What kind of "maneuverable air battles" can there be ???
- But what does this whole "circus" have to do with air battles and the performance of combat missions assigned to our Aerospace Forces ???

- Close-range maneuverable air combat on cannons (dogfight - "dog dump") - is still included as a component in the training of fighter pilots of all countries. Another thing is that for stealth aircraft its share is only about 2%, 98% air battles, the same F-22 wins in long-range air battles ... But since the Russians despise all sorts of stealth, they appeal to the so-called "super-maneuverability", which, unlike really useful maneuverability, does not give a fig in a real BVB ...
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Maneuverability - the ability of the aircraft to quickly change the direction of movement of its center of mass and space - respectively, the coordinates of the center of mass.
Super maneuverability - the ability of the aircraft to change the angular velocity relative to all three axes, or fewer axes, - in this case, the position of the center of mass in space changes slightly.
1. Chernomorr
  
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  25 February 2021 23: 42
  
  Are you a pilot and fought in FE-22?
Michael1950

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25 February 2021 23: 57

Quote: Chernomorr
Are you a pilot and fought in FE-22?

- I am a military pilot by profession, but no, I have not flown the F-22. But in order to understand the capabilities of the F-22, it is not at all necessary to fly it. As the French say: "You don't have to be a cat to draw a cat."