Rahr: Today in the West they bite their elbows, complaining about the loss of the Russian market

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Western countries will no longer impose anti-Russian sanctions, since they are not effective, and Russian economy adapted to the sanctions regime. This opinion was expressed by political scientist from Germany Alexander Rahr on the air of the Internet channel "Voice of Truth".

The German expert believes that the Russians were able to get used to life under the sanctions restrictions from the collective West, therefore European countries will no longer introduce new measures of economic pressure on Russia. Europe has also adapted to this state of affairs.



In this case, policy Western countries are aware of the fact that the sanctions went to Moscow in a sense to the benefit. In the absence of Europeans' access to Russian markets, the country's industry and trade began to live by its own rules - Russia began to produce many goods on its own, rather than buying them from Western countries.

Now Western manufacturers simply bite their elbows and say that we have lost the Russian market over these seven years. And who got there? Chinese, Turks, Indians, Asians with their own production

- says Alexander Rahr.

Russians do not experience hunger and hardship and receive everything they need, but not from Europe. How to restore the old order of things and fill in the gaps, no one knows. The West does not want to punish itself, so it is unprofitable for it to increase the sanctions pressure.
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    1. -12
      19 February 2021 17: 06
      Well, Rahr is too engaged, it is too far from political realities.
      1. +9
        19 February 2021 19: 57
        Well, Rahr is too engaged, it is too far from political realities.

        And the political realities are as follows - today in Germany there are already about 6-7 million of such "committed", if you mean "immigrants from ..", loyal to Russia.
        1. -10
          19 February 2021 20: 12
          There are no more than 3 million natives there. His engagement boils down to a desire to express the interests of a specific group (not necessarily immigrants), and not an analysis of the real state of affairs.
          The statement - in Europe, elbows bite - from the evil one. Of course, there is someone who bites their elbows, but this is not the position of a united Europe. This is how to argue - in Russia, people came to the square to support Navalny. It seems true ...
          1. +5
            19 February 2021 20: 57
            There are no more than 3 million natives there.

            Yes, yes .. you know everything.)

            3 million, this is only those who came after 1990 from the countries of the former union.

            Many years have passed since then, comrade.)
            People lived, died, multiplied .. and bred well, by the way, not like the local Germans.

            Today, the 3rd generation is growing up, so you knew.
            Of course, not everyone speaks the language at the level of their parents, but you can't just beat out the "Russian spirit". Mentally, they all remained "hares" (as they call themselves there).

            For young people in Germany, being a "hare" is cool, so that you know. Even children from Jewish families (of which there are also many in Germany) are proud of their historical origins.
            1. -3
              19 February 2021 21: 29
              Not all, but a lot.
              Yes, there is someone who is proud, there is someone who is not proud. Being a hare is cool among hare, believe me. Migrants are never considered cool in the established society.
              I often travel to Germany, I have a cousin there, close friends, I am aware of the life there.
              1. +5
                19 February 2021 22: 20
                Migrants are never considered cool in the established society.

                If we talk about the first generation, then I completely agree.
                I'm talking about the second, and especially the third generation.
                These are already the children of the children of migrants. On the one hand, they feel themselves in the country where they were born - at home.
                On the other hand, their mentality, reliably formed by parental education, does not allow them to forget their historical roots.

                By virtue of the textbook, and therefore, indisputable, correctness of the attitudes of the “institution of the family” of immigrants from the former union, these “descendants”, having received the correct “vector of movement”, achieve much greater results in life than their local peers, than cause genuine respect (and somewhere and envious admiration) among the "aborigines".
                Therefore, and again: being a "hare" in Germany, especially among young people, is very cool.

                Trust me, I know very well what I'm talking about!

                For a local German, to create a family with a "little Russian", the second, and even more so the third generation, is a great success today. This is how to win a million in the lottery!

                But for a local German girl, to marry a young, purposeful, mature beyond his years, ausziedler guy, whom in life you can rely on like a granite rock, is generally a pipe dream. There are simply no such chances a priori!
                Not a single self-respecting "hare" guy will even look at a German girl who does not have "Russian roots".
                1. -1
                  19 February 2021 22: 33
                  I agree, but only partially. It is not worthwhile to imagine the hares as a kind of monolith, and the third generation as entirely composed of established people. I am not a supporter of simplifications and generalizations. It's good to be healthy and wealthy.
                  1. +4
                    19 February 2021 22: 42
                    You shouldn't imagine the hares as a kind of monolith

                    I would still call it all the same, more a monolith than rubble.

                    and the third generation, as completely consisting of established people.

                    Well, let's call it a trend.)

                    It’s good to be healthy and rich.

                    Better to be healthy but rich
                    Than poor but sick. (German proverb)))
          2. +4
            19 February 2021 22: 37
            in Europe they bite their elbows - from the evil one. Of course there is someone who bites their elbows, but this is not the position of a united Europe.

            For a start, forget completely! There is no "united Europe".

            The situation is, in fact, complete absurdity! There are several powerful European states, dragging all this "Sisyphus stone" on their shoulders, and there is a pack of not capable of anything great, small, but arrogant "freeloaders" who, in fact, sit on the neck of the first, and hinder them, with their big ambitions, not in size, to drag this "stone".

            When it comes to "biting the elbows", of course, we mean certainly NOT THESE not these dwarfs (in all negative senses of the word) - "under-state".
            1. -2
              20 February 2021 09: 39
              For a start, forget completely! There is no "united Europe".

              Strange, I thought Europe was biting its elbows in one fit!
              1. +1
                20 February 2021 10: 38
                For a start, forget completely! There is no "united Europe".
                Strange, I thought Europe was biting its elbows in one fit!

                If you are talking about an article, then there was:

                Now Western manufacturers simply bite their elbows and say that we have lost the Russian market over these seven years.

                Many Western manufacturers have indeed lost, due to their own (and reciprocal) sanctions, their contracts with Russia. What does "Europe in a single impulse ..." have to do with it?
                1. -1
                  20 February 2021 11: 41
                  There is certainly a united Europe, it is simply not worth demanding that it resemble the USSR, even in the states ex pluribus unum, but in Europe it works great. The EU is not a military unit.
                  1. +2
                    20 February 2021 12: 49
                    and in Europe it works great.

                    Yeah. The recent Brexit has clearly demonstrated this. Who do you think will be the next one to leave this "perfectly working"?
                    1. -1
                      20 February 2021 12: 58
                      Exactly! This is a voluntary union! Or did you want it to be like with Chechnya? Even after leaving the EU, England remains a collective Europe.
                      1. +3
                        20 February 2021 13: 09
                        Exactly! This is a voluntary union!

                        Ha ha ha!)))
                        A voluntary union, the legal framework of which does not even provide for an exit procedure?)

                        Or did you want it to be like with Chechnya?

                        Chechnya, a member of which union, excuse me?)

                        Even after leaving the EU, England remains a collective Europe.

                        Switzerland never ceased to be such a member, Norway and Iceland too. What is the trick of EU membership, then?)
                        1. -1
                          20 February 2021 14: 22
                          1. So in fact everything is settled. In the legal field.
                          2. Chechnya was a member of the federation, which was officially offered - take as much sovereignty as you can.
                          3. A feature in varying degrees of generality. And that's great!
                        2. +4
                          20 February 2021 15: 14
                          1. So in fact everything is settled. In the legal field.

                          Formally, the EU constitution does not prohibit secession. This is regulated by a constitutional regulation (Art. 50 Abs. 1 EUV), but ... with a mandatory reference to the supremacy of the conditions of the constitutional legal norms of each of these states, which are prescribed for accession to the EU (Art. 50 Abs. 2- 4 EUV). But these conditions, in turn, prescribe the future EU members (as a prerequisite) to prescribe in their national law a ban on secession from the EU. Example: German Grundgesetz - (Art. 23 Abs. 1 S. 1 GG).
                          All other EU members have similar (or the same) conditions in their national law.
                          Do you really want to discuss this topic further, or will we stop there?

                          Chechnya was a member of the federation, which was officially offered - take as much sovereignty as you can.

                          It was so. Chechens could become sovereign Ichkeria. But, in the end, they chose a joint path with Russia. How does this relate to our discussion?

                          A feature in varying degrees of generality. And that's great!

                          Well, I say, someone is dragging, and someone is not sitting on the neck.
                          The British were the first to understand this and fled. We did it right.
                          And those who did not cease to be national states did even more correctly. What the hell is it, to drag all these out of their minds ambitious freeloaders, a la "Pole-Tribalty & Co"?
                          Well, this is understandable, they are trying to enter heaven on someone else's "horse", but
                          Germans, French, Italians, etc., before the EU, lived much better. Then they hung this yoke around their neck voluntarily (?), And drag it. So I ask, what is the trick for them?
            2. 0
              21 February 2021 07: 17
              There is no united Europe. The British won't let you lie. The EU Ambassador was not recently received. They said that only ambassadors from specific countries are recognized. And in general Europe it is different and there are completely different peoples who are alien to each other with their own mentality, with different possibilities and abilities. What unites them is that hatred of Russia and the Russian people ... And in general, how can you put the Portuguese and the Finn on the same level? ..
              1. -1
                21 February 2021 08: 45
                Quote: alexprint1
                There is no united Europe. The British won't let you lie. The EU Ambassador was not recently received. They said that only ambassadors from specific countries are recognized. And in general Europe it is different and there are completely different peoples who are alien to each other with their own mentality, with different possibilities and abilities. What unites them is that hatred of Russia and the Russian people ... And in general, how can you put the Portuguese and the Finn on the same level? ..

                There was no USSR! Is it possible to compare a Tajik and an Estonian, a Chukchi and a Russian? People who are completely different and alien to each other with their own mentality, with different capabilities and abilities, united only by hatred of the West. fellow
                1. +1
                  21 February 2021 10: 45
                  There was no USSR! Is it possible to compare a Tajik and an Estonian, a Chukchi and a Russian? People who are completely different and alien to each other with their own mentality, with different capabilities and abilities, united only by hatred of the West.

                  Then what about the USA? There blacks with whites, what unites? (about the Indians, we will not say anything at all, as if they did not exist).
                  1. 0
                    21 February 2021 11: 02
                    It's actually ironic ...
                    Alliances can be very strange and the EU is not the strangest. And you shouldn't think of unity as the unity of platoons in a company.
                    1. +2
                      21 February 2021 11: 49
                      It's actually ironic ...

                      No, well, the fact that irony is, of course, understandable, but as they say: in every joke there is a grain of a joke.)

                      The EU is “oddly” superior to all the alliances that have been created before.

                      If in the USSR, the people, uniting, under their wing, the others were Russians (Russians). And some "united" before the union even never had their own statehood!
                      In Europe, in a union (commonwealth), peoples are trying to unite, approximately equal in their historical existence. What does it have to do with not only centuries (millennia!) Of their own cultures, traditions, languages, mentality, but also these proven centuries of abilities and capabilities.
                      Well, "the poet's soul, the discord of petty grievances, could not bear .." the Spaniards give up the siesta, and the French do not want to make national decisions independently, and the Greeks do not want to retire as Germans at 67, and hardworking Germans, in turn, feed the Poles and Romanians, and generally feed everyone.
                      The EU is an artificially created, ugly entity, Created for the banal earning of a lot of money by a small handful of people. The opinion of the peoples of these countries themselves has never interested anyone. (Well, except for the Swiss - respect).
                      The very first popular referendum held in Great Britain showed what true "value" the EU represents for the people.
                      1. 0
                        21 February 2021 12: 21
                        The EU must (and does!) Solve problems
                        1. Remove the historical hotbed of war between Germany and France. This is the main task and so far it is being solved.
                        2. To confront other centers within the framework of geopolitical competition - the USA, China, Southeast Asia, this is possible only as the EU.
                        3. Creation of a single economic space for the convenience of citizens and production efficiency.
                        The example with England is not entirely correct. England initially (more precisely, always) positioned itself as external Europe. She has a lot of reasons for this. Time will tell.
                        Nobody said that the struggle between the universal and the national would end. This is a natural process.
                        1. +2
                          21 February 2021 13: 23
                          Remove the historic hotbed of war between Germany and France. This is the main task and so far it is being solved.

                          A bold interpretation.))

                          It is a fact that the signing of the Elysee Agreements in 1963 put a definite end to the history of the "blood feud" (which is also greatly exaggerated) between the Germans and the French, which in turn laid the foundations of the German-French partnership in a united Europe. But this does not mean at all that the creation of the EU had this, some kind of "main goal".)
                          And even in this case, the creation of the EU jointly with Russia would be much more logical. This is where, proven over the centuries, a real "historical hotbed of hostility" "that needs to be extinguished.)

                          To confront other centers within the framework of geopolitical competition - the USA, China, Southeast Asia, is possible only as the EU.

                          In principle, as an "idea" - I agree,
                          But then, for this, initially, it was not necessary to gather under the wing of the EU the same British, who clearly gravitate, both historically and mentally, more to the Americans than to the French or Germans. The same Poles and "all sorts of tribals" - obsequiously peeking into the anus of the same Americans, hoping to find another strong neck in the future.
                          With such "collaborators" the EU will never be able to confront anyone, but mortal enemies, and at least in the person of the same Russia, will sooner or later, as if it will make money for itself.

                          But reality looks different.
                          As long as the real American army is "visiting" the EU, there can be no talk of any geopolitical confrontation between the United States. It will not be possible for the "Europeans" to expel the Americans, at least on their own, from Europe. If the Americans wanted this, they would have left long ago.

                          Creation of a single economic space for the convenience of citizens and production efficiency.

                          If we remove the extra word “citizens” from the phrase, then I agree.
                          Citizens and in the usual "Schengen" quite comfortable life. And some continue to live: the Swiss, the Norwegians, the Icelanders ... And they live, let's say, not bad.)

                          As soon as the UK, which has left the EU, shows a positive result from its decision (and this is not far off) - it will be a “green light” for the rest of the “important members”.
                          The EU, which Ukraine may someday join (well, if it waits), will consist of such states as Romania, Bulgaria, Montenegro, under the leadership of some Albania, or Turkey.)
                      2. 0
                        21 February 2021 14: 10
                        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                        The EU is “oddly” superior to all the alliances that have been created before.

                        The Roman Empire.
                        Holy roman empire
                        Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation.
                        Napoleon.
                        Europe has followed a natural path towards the EU throughout its history.
                        Russia has never been to Europe and an alliance with it is unnatural. Even more than with Turkey.
                        1. +1
                          21 February 2021 14: 30
                          The Roman Empire.
                          Holy Roman Empire
                          Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation.
                          Napoleon.

                          "Unions")

                          Europe has followed a natural path towards the EU throughout its history.

                          Throughout its history, Europe, “in a natural way, but with varying success, fought against empires, in favor of national states, from which, after millennia, today they are trying to artificially create this ugly“ union ”.

                          In the form in which it is (with all its contradictions), sooner or later it will fall apart. It has already begun to fall apart. Only soya does not see this.
                          Discussion already. some kind of "demagogic" has begun. In my opinion, everything I said is obvious, like God's day.

                          Russia has never been to Europe and an alliance with it is unnatural.

                          I didn’t claim it. I just said that it would be more logical than an alliance between France and Germany, if we consider it in the context of "extinguishing a hotbed of hostility"
                        2. 0
                          21 February 2021 15: 35
                          I just said that it would be more logical than an alliance between France and Germany, if we consider it in the context of "extinguishing a hotbed of hostility"

                          They extinguish the inner hearth that interferes with existence, and the outer one is just basicly necessary for consolidation.
                          The advantages of the EU are so obvious that it is absurd to discuss them at all. Common Europe is a civilizational achievement of Europeans. This path has no alternative.
                        3. +2
                          21 February 2021 19: 45
                          They extinguish the inner hearth that interferes with existence, and the outer one is just basicly necessary for consolidation.

                          Nice hearth. What would then be consolidated to turn into nuclear ash? Well, nothing is so perspective.)

                          The advantages of the EU are so obvious that it is absurd to discuss them at all.

                          Advantage for whom?
                          If for those on the neck, then yes.
                          And what is the trick for the "neck"?
    2. -11
      19 February 2021 17: 54
      Yeah. The dollar has fallen, the West is trembling, iPhones, Sony and Nokia are not for sale, there are no French wines in stores, Abramovich handed over his football club to the Kremlin, and so on ...

      Anonymous article will endure everything
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        +12
        19 February 2021 18: 15
        Yeah. The dollar has fallen, the West is trembling, iPhones, Sony and Nokia are not for sale, there are no French wines in stores, Abramovich handed over his football club to the Kremlin, and so on ...

        The dollar really has problems and they are not over. The government will not allow the growth of the ruble, it is easier to fulfill social obligations and this stimulates the development of production.
        IPhones and Sony's have nothing to do with Europe. And Nokia .. we can assume that you are right.

        Anonymous article will endure everything

        Rar is a surname like that smile
        1. -3
          19 February 2021 20: 06
          Rahr, clear to the stump, in Germany, but the review is unsigned.

          Sony - yes, you are right.
          And the iPhone ... the share goes to Omeriku .. And for phones, and for monitors, and for computers ... And no sanctions, however ...

          Maximum - they cried about Polish apples in the media, but the bitten elbows did not show something ...

          If it were not for the coronavirus, Medvedev would continue to import his favorite Boeings, no matter what ...
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            +4
            19 February 2021 20: 39
            And the iPhone ... the share goes to Omeriku .. And for phones, and for monitors, and for computers ... And no sanctions, however ...

            And what does Europe have to do with it? Rahr talks about her. There will be no sanctions, at least for now. Its own computer technology is still far behind. will have to wait with import substitution. "Omerika" that something, too, not all in a row prohibits sanctions, where it is profitable for them to trade. Why should we mindlessly chop everything off?

            Maximum - they cried about Polish apples in the media, but the bitten elbows did not show something ...

            So winter, cold, sleeves down. Nobody will cry, everyone has long been accustomed, adapted, learned to live with it. They are not particularly zealous, they do not particularly hope for success.
            http://eu-russia-expertnetwork.eu/en/news/euren-covid2

            That both sides are losing is a fact, how much I find it difficult to say, because it is necessary to delve into. If I am not mistaken, the losses of the European Union are greater, but for each individual country it is not critical, sometimes such information comes across ...

            Russian sanctions imposed on food imports from Europe and America have reduced trade flows about 8 times more than sanctions imposed by the EU and the US on the export of mining equipment.

            https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0147596720300408

            But as a result, we are increasing production, they are losing the market. And you can't return everything back.

            If it were not for the coronavirus, Medvedev would continue to import his favorite Boeings, no matter what ...

            Medvedev does not need so many Boeings in his new position. And to say that they began to engage in aviation only after his departure is not true.
            1. 0
              20 February 2021 09: 23
              Tse again, about the separation of Omerika and Europe are right.
              Omerika stays with money. Europe must be counted separately ...
              And before my eyes only their cars at once. and beer. Auto sanctions? Beer? Do not read.
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                +1
                20 February 2021 15: 56
                And before my eyes only their cars at once. and beer. Auto sanctions? Beer? Do not read.

                All imports are done at Deribasovskaya. Read the manufacturer's label. Dutch Heineken has 7 factories in Russia. At the current rate, bringing beer from Europe is still a business. Maybe they are taking them, they probably did not pay attention to this trifle.

                Imports of passenger cars to Russia at the end of 2020 decreased by 19,7% to 243,2 thousand cars
                Import of trucks last year fell by 19,4% to 24,1 thousand (Avtostat.)

                These are all brands. At the same time, sales in my opinion (total) -9,7%. Imports are consistently declining. Take away the Chinese with the Japanese and count the European ones by the piece. Who should be sanctioned? Kaluga Skoda or Kaliningrad BMW?
                1. 0
                  20 February 2021 17: 41
                  Tse Crown, tse are not the machinations of the West ...
                  Auto - history just repeats ... Assembly production is often more profitable on site ... Sanctions? did not hear...

                  And beer is cheap, for zombies, - yes, unfastening Europeans for the rights .... Yes, paying the owners of companies in Europe .... (lists walking on the Internet ....) Sanctions? did not hear...

                  And the dear ones were carried, they are being carried and will be carried ...

                  There was such a story in '14 with McDonalds ... Like Americans .... Sanctions? passed .......
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                    +1
                    20 February 2021 18: 47
                    Tse Crown, tse are not the machinations of the West ...
                    Auto - history just repeats ... Assembly production is often more profitable on site ... Sanctions? did not hear...

                    Localization. Not? Did not hear?

                    And beer is cheap, for zombies, - yes, unfastening Europeans for the rights .... Yes, paying the owners of companies in Europe .... (lists walking on the Internet ....) Sanctions? did not hear...

                    Are Heineken factories paying themselves for the rights? What sanctions do you want to impose on them?

                    There was such a story in '14 with McDonalds ... Like Americans .... Sanctions? passed .......

                    Do Americans work at McDonald's or do they bring meat from the USA? Where were you going?
                    1. 0
                      20 February 2021 22: 30
                      Localization, they themselves correctly named. Aborigines are working. And they pay for the brand ..

                      Heineken is a Dutch brewing company ...

                      Therefore, she does not pay herself, she just displays ...
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                        +1
                        20 February 2021 22: 40
                        Localization, they themselves correctly named. Aborigines are working. And they pay for the brand ..

                        Pay for cars. Who pays whom for the brand? Skoda yourself? I can't please you. Do you want them to also bring Czechs to work?

                        Heineken is a Dutch brewing company, ... "Therefore, she does not pay herself, she just takes out ....

                        Would you like something to be displayed? And why should they then have a plant if money cannot be disposed of?
                        1. 0
                          21 February 2021 11: 41
                          Would you like something to be displayed? And why should they then have a plant if money cannot be disposed of?

                          - here is the answer. Where they pay for beer, or cars, or a name.
                          It all came down to a profit withdrawal ...

                          And I don't care any sanctions ...
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                          +1
                          21 February 2021 15: 13
                          - here is the answer. Where they pay for beer, or cars, or a name.
                          It all came down to a profit withdrawal ...
                          And I don't care any sanctions ...

                          So you mean against the withdrawal? So let them build a factory, make beer, sell it, and not manage the money. Do you buy Sportloto tickets for all the profits?

                          And I don't care any sanctions ...

                          What are you sanctioned for? To take away the profit from Heineken?
                        3. -1
                          21 February 2021 22: 50
                          Sanctions are money in the end
                          ... take away, not take away, redistribute - if there is strength and reason ...

                          Or do you think, like someone, that the West imposes sanctions justly, only against crooks, politicians, businessmen. And we - so honest - will only ban Polish apples and Swiss cheeses ... and private traders - no, no, you can't touch ...
      2. +4
        19 February 2021 18: 53
        Abramovich is who is not an Englishman, a non-Swiss man?)) despite his "tons of greenery" - "he didn't come out with a snout")) well, at least someone "sheltered" him)) now he is the richest among them))
    3. +1
      20 February 2021 14: 55
      As much as one political scientist knows for all of Europe ... Nostradamus + Messing in one bottle.
    4. +1
      20 February 2021 20: 58
      Here about Absolute Evil



      About why "Russia cannot be understood with the mind ..."!
      And about that --- why Russia cannot be betrayed!
    5. +2
      21 February 2021 00: 35
      Rahr says a lot and willingly, but only what they want to hear from him "here". Receives royalties for this. There are many of those. However, he does not name the names and attendances of specific companies "affected by the loss of markets". The numbers too. Rar is handsome. Only here you will not learn the objective picture from him. And this is called “loyalty for feeding”.