Russian Su-35 was able to oust its main competitor

February 16 2021

France suffered a military and trade defeat from Russia, failing to interest India and Egypt with its Rafale multirole fighter - the Egyptians and Indians preferred the French technology Russian combat vehicles.

Cairo and New Delhi were the first customers of Rafale, but this did not help Paris to "promote" its aircraft, and aggressive marketing policy did not play its role. Russian combat aircraft surpass their French counterparts not only in price, but also in flight performance.

According to The Military Watch, Egypt and India have purchased just 24 and 36 Rafale fighters, respectively, much less than originally planned. Instead, Egyptian customers purchased 27 Su-35 units and more than 40 MiG-29M units. Despite the fact that they are inferior to the Rafale in range and in radar capabilities, the Su-35 surpass the competitor in thrust-to-weight ratio, as well as in maximum flight altitude.

India acted in a similar way, having in its fleet mainly Russian aircraft. In addition, Russia came up with a proposal to allow India to assemble the Su-35 under a Russian license, as well as to apply its technologies to modernize the Su-30MKI, supplying them with AL-41 engines, as well as the Irbis-E radar.

The Su-35 is a specialized air superiority fighter that India clearly lacks

- notes The Military Watch.

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Offline steelmaker

steelmaker 16 February 2021 09: 53

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Su-35 is a UFO

Rafal is nothing at all compared to the SU-35. Tired of watching when he shows something like the SU-35.

At the same time, the price of Rafal is $ 218 million, the SU-35 is $ 75 million, and the MIG-35 is $ 40 million.
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  Ser sash (Ser Sash) 16 February 2021 10: 51
  
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  What's the point in the super-maneuverability of an airplane in modern combat?
  Now the plane is a flying arsenal, launched a rocket 150 km to the target and hit the road.
  The one who noticed the other earlier won.
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    shinobi (Yuri) 18 February 2021 11: 03
    
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    Who noticed you say before? And nothing so that the lacquer escort goes from at least 1500 km in real time? Continuously. From both sides. Without it, not a single board rises into the air. The fighters approach the rendezvous point already knowing exactly who, how much and in in most cases why. A sudden launch from a long distance "imperceptibly", a profanation of pure water. Given that modern over-the-horizon radars (3,5-6 thousand km) track objects the size of a golf ball, all these invisibles and other very dubious undertakings. you can only have a lonely plane, from the territory of a neutral state, when, even in theory, it does not expect an attack.
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      Ser sash (Ser Sash) 18 February 2021 11: 29
      
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      In the 90s, I heard from real combat pilots - "I flew both for a moment-29 and an F-16, I am a patriot, but the F-16 is better, what's the use of our maneuverability, if it has a better radar and sees us 70 km earlier?" So what's the point of maneuverability if close combat hasn't been practiced for a long time?
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        shinobi (Yuri) 18 February 2021 13: 34
        
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        Who does not practice? The Indians drove the balalaika 16x as they wanted. Yes, the radar in the 29 is worse. And I would generally be careful not to compare the export versions. In the 90s, ours conducted training fights with the Yankees. According to their rules. We won on dry. Live broadcast . After the Yankees in the camera claimed a draw. After that I do not believe their statements and boasts in principle.
        
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        Ser sash (Ser Sash) 19 February 2021 00: 47
        
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        Training battles there were close maneuverable combat, the enemy in the tail go.
        But in real combat it will be very rare.
        
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        shinobi (Yuri) 21 February 2021 08: 26
        
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        The alpha and omega of any battle, not only air, the less time a striking element flies to the enemy, the less chances he has to avoid being hit by it. How long will the pilot have to dodge a missile launched from a distance of 150 km or from 15 ? Aviation ballistic scrubbers, things with very interesting functions, not only serve for aiming.
        PS: Old fact. During the Korean War, the Americans completely abandoned cannon armament, deciding that guided missile weapons were enough. As a result, they urgently had to put suspended containers with them on their aircraft, because after dodging the missile, our and Chinese pilots were shooting them in close maneuvering combat as seated.
        
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        Ser sash (Ser Sash) 21 February 2021 08: 58
        
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        Well, let's remember the airplanes.
        To do this, they launch two missiles each, so as not to dodge.
        And their tactics are different from ours, he will not take risks, knowing the superiority in maneuverability. It did not work to attack from a distance, it just leaves.
        
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        shinobi (Yuri) 24 February 2021 01: 31
        
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        The general principles of warfare have not changed since the days of Sun Tzu and the work of Clausewitz. This is your "smart" thought about airplanes. Learn history
Offline sgrabik

sgrabik (Sergei) 16 February 2021 09: 54

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Now they need to offer them the MiG-35, for them it would be the most optimal option in terms of price / quality / combat capabilities, on the basis of the MiG-35 it would not hurt to create a deck version to replace the deck-mounted MiG-29 on Indian aircraft carriers.
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greenchelman (Grigory Tarasenko) 16 February 2021 16: 32

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My question is ... how much has Russia sold the Su-35 to India?
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  steelmaker 16 February 2021 17: 28
  
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  The fact that Russia cannot sell the SU-35 and MiG-35 does not mean that the aircraft are bad. Judging by the performance characteristics and shows at all sorts of shows, no one has done better yet! This is just another proof that the country is run by mediocrity !!!!
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    polev66 (Alexander) 16 February 2021 18: 13
    
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    what are you talking about, smart guy?
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  polev66 (Alexander) 16 February 2021 18: 14
  
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  not much. if you read the article, you would understand that the Indians were offered a licensed assembly of mung kits, and not a sale ... they dance and think while
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Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 20 February 2021 13: 58

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They flew in Egypt. Caught up in Indonesia.

"The contract for the Su-35 is frozen": Indonesia buys American F-15EX and French Rafale. The Indonesian Air Force will be replenished with F-15EX and Rafale fighters. This was stated by the chief of staff of the Indonesian Air Force, Air Marshal Fajar Praseto.

https://topwar.ru/180132-rossijskie-su-35-zavisli-indonezija-zakupaet-amerikanskie-f-15ex-i-francuzskie-rafale.html
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Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 25 February 2021 18: 17

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Quote: steel maker
Su-35 is a UFO

Rafal is nothing at all compared to the SU-35. Tired of watching when he shows something like the SU-35.

At the same time, the price of Rafal is $ 218 million, the SU-35 is $ 75 million, and the MIG-35 is $ 40 million.

Handsomely. Question: Is the French thing stable at low and extremely low speeds? No more questions.
For two days, wide-eyed, I watched the flights of dryers in Kursk. Two years ago.