"Accomplice in crime": what is the meaning of Nebenzi's harsh words about the West


The United Nations Security Council yesterday held a special meeting dedicated to the sixth anniversary of the approval of the Minsk Agreements. Tellingly, Russia initiated this event. Neither Ukraine nor, moreover, the West, which fully supports it on all issues and aspects related to the conflict in Donbass, did not consider this date a reason for a principled conversation.


However, if anyone showed frankness in the course of the conversation that took place, then perhaps Vasily Nebenzya, representing our country at the UN. This time, he told his opponents those things that had not been said aloud before. And this bears witness to a lot. What exactly? Let's try to figure it out.

Not intermediaries, but accomplices


I must say that initially, the communication, which took place, in accordance with the current pandemic realities in a virtual version, was half-bad, but kept in a more or less constructive manner. So, Rosemary DiCarlo, who is the UN Deputy Secretary General for Political and Peacebuilding Issues, complained in her speech that in connection with the quarantine restrictions associated with the COVID-19 pandemic, the line of demarcation between Ukraine and the republics of Donbass, in fact, was tightly closed ... According to DiCarlo, this complicates the delivery of humanitarian aid and creates many problems for the residents of the region, in connection with which she urged "everyone who can influence the situation" to help to remove restrictions on movement as much as possible.

Heidi Grau, the OSCE Chairmanship's Special Representative for Ukraine and the Contact Group, was more specific and, accordingly, pessimistic. She stated a number of negative moments, which do not in any way indicate that the situation is even moving a hair towards the implementation of "Minsk". These are the closed checkpoints, the actual suspension of the exchange of prisoners and detainees, and the slowing down of the demining that is so necessary for Donbass. In conclusion, Ms. Grau expressed her extreme concern over the increasingly frequent cases of ceasefire violations and stated, in principle, an obvious thing: "without progress on the political front and in contact groups, the ceasefire achieved with such difficulty will not last long." We must pay tribute to the representatives of the OSCE and the UN - they at least tried to maintain objectivity in covering the issues discussed, did not hang labels and did not throw out groundless accusations.

A completely different style of "communication" was demonstrated by the representatives of those states that, entering the "Normandy format", must show at least the semblance of neutrality with respect to all parties to the conflict, in the resolution of which they have undertaken to participate. And not try to openly and shamelessly "push through" just one point of view, moreover, very far from reality and truth. A very unpleasant impression was made by the speech of the representative of Germany, who said that our country, it turns out, “violated the Budapest Memorandum, by signing which it expressed its commitment to the sovereignty of Ukraine”. And then she took it, and "invaded Crimea and Donbass, presenting it as an uprising." What have you presented? Where have you invaded? Further performance of the bearer of the "gloomy Teutonic genius" suggests that he has the most complete mess in his head, and he "studied" the question from the publications of the most odious media outlets "nezalezhnoy". In his passionate speech, this Herr lumped together Girkin, MN-17, “Russia's trampling on international law in Syria and Libya”, “Skripal poisoning” and God knows what else. In addition, he began to demand that our country "immediately stop the massive issuance of Russian passports to residents of Donbass," claiming that this, again, "contradicts" something. Well, this is obviously something deeply personal. Perhaps a shell-shocked grandfather on the Eastern Front ...

However, the permanent representative of another member of the "Norman Quartet" - France, to the UN, Francois Delatre, in his rhetoric was perhaps a little more restrained. "Russia is responsible for this conflict ..." But with what joy ?! In conclusion, Monsieur Delatre proudly proclaimed that Paris and Berlin will work until ... no, in no case before the onset of peace in the Donbass. And until then, "until the Ukrainian sovereignty is fully restored." After that, is it worth it to be surprised at the extremely harsh words that subsequently sounded from the lips of the national permanent representative to the United Nations?

"Ukraine has occupied Ukraine and is at war with itself ..."


It's hard to say what was the last straw that overflowed the cup of Vasily Nebenzi's patience. Either the attacks mentioned above, or even more arrogant and cynical demarches of the representatives of the United States and Great Britain, who began to accuse Russia of "the death of 12 thousand people", "annexation", "aggression", "occupation of Donbass." It all ended with the traditional threats to "bring to justice" our country and the imposing promises of "toughening and expanding sanctions." How did Mr. Nebenzya respond to all this flurry of notorious and selective Russophobia? First of all, he finally called a spade a spade. “Those who openly support only one side in the ongoing conflict in Donbass and, moreover, indulge its painful fantasies about the“ Russian aggression ”in no way have the right to call themselves mediators in the settlement of this conflict,” he said. "You, gentlemen, are none other than accomplices in all those crimes that Kiev is committing against the population of Donbass!" - such a bitter and complete truth has not sounded within the walls of the UN for a long time.

He did not forget to reproach Western diplomats for the fact that they are ready to sit down at the negotiating table with any "opposition" and "freedom fighters" from the Middle East or Latin America, but they categorically refuse to admit representatives of the DPR and LPR to the negotiating table at which their fate must be decided. In fact, our representative made it clear to the West with his bright demarche: Moscow is tired of pretending that they do not understand the real meaning of the “one-sided game” being played in the “Minsk” and “Normandy” formats. They no longer intend for the sake of some "higher foreign policy interests" to diligently adhere to the perverted "rules of the game" imposed by the West 6 years ago. And we will not continue to endure the incessant vilification of our country, ascribing to it all conceivable and inconceivable sins, too. Are you going to "bring to responsibility"? Is there enough strength?

In relation to Ukraine, Nebenzya was truly ruthless. Even before the speech of the local representative - the ex-president of the country Leonid Kravchuk (the very one who very recently ardently advocated the conduct of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas "return fire" despite the ceasefire), our diplomat in a rather caustic manner "announced" some details of the future speech. “Now, instead of constructive moments, hackneyed mantras about“ Russia's guilt ”will start to sound again. How he looked into the water! The speech of the political "veteran" from the "nezalezhnoy" traditionally boiled down, mainly, to a set of duty Russophobic clichés and "horror stories" like talks about "Moscow's transformation into its major outposts of Crimea and Donbass." Well, Crimea is actually our territory. We turn into what we want. As for Donbass ...

Nebenzya, like a champion boxer who faced an opponent who thought too much of himself in the ring, showered Kravchuk with "blows" that were absolutely impossible to parry. Direct, specific and unambiguous questions were used: Has Kiev carried out the promised constitutional reform? Has an amnesty mechanism been developed for the parties to the conflict? What about the legislation on the special status of Donbass? And, by the way, how is the "introduction of the" Steinmeier formula "already announced by Ukraine a hundred thousand times alive there? "Finishing off" the opponent already to the point of a complete knockout, our diplomat mentally asked: how can the official representative of the "nezalezhnoy" comment on the fact that the "road map for Donbass" presented (by the way, exactly to them) in the TCG does not correspond to the "Minsk agreements", at least by three quarters? And the recently adopted by Kiev law "on the transition period" generally cancels them out completely, from the first to the last letter?

However, most of all Kiev should be concerned about Nebenzi in other words. For example, by his statement that "the residents of Donbass no longer feel ties with Ukraine." And such actions of the “nezalezhnoy” authorities, such as the adoption of “draconian laws” on the future persecution of the inhabitants of the Republics, the “internment” of people with Russian passports, an extremely aggressive language policy and “the glorification of Nazi accomplices” completely deprives the inhabitants of the region of any motivation to return to the country that was once native to them. Our diplomat, unlike his Ukrainian opponents, did not juggle words and substitute concepts. It is difficult to object to his assertion that "Ukraine has occupied Ukraine and is waging a war with itself on its own territory." You can't say it better, think for a hundred years!

In the end, the two main sides of the discussion - Ukraine and Russia - demonstrated not just a difference of opinion, but the fact that their positions on Donbass have nothing in common at all. Leonid Kravchuk ended his speech with the words that “reintegration will come soon”. Naturally, according to the Jesuit and savage scenario of Kiev ... Vasily Nebenzya, in turn, said what the "reintegrators" should have thought hard about. First, he sharply recalled that “there is no mention of Russia as one of the parties to the Minsk Agreements in any document,” so there is nothing to blame for the fact that Moscow “does not comply” or “sabotages ". Secondly, something completely new was sounded: regarding the Budapest Memorandum, the Russian diplomat said that he “in no way obliges Russia to force a part of the Ukrainian population to remain in its composition against its own will”. This is already a serious change in rhetoric, demonstrating how Moscow actually sees and perceives everything that is happening now in the Donbas and around it. It seems that the time of endless concessions and political "curtsey" is over. What exactly will follow? I'm sure we'll see it soon.
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  1. Vladimir_ Voronov (Vladimir) 12 February 2021 10: 23
    +7
    It seems that Nebenzi's speech is a continuation of Borel's "immersion in reality" by Lavrov.

    The European Union is an unreliable partner

    S.V. Lavrov
    1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
      Kofesan (Valery) 12 February 2021 23: 13
      +3
      So, but not quite. Nebenzya is smart. But one should listen to it as a continuation of the first, in many years, "plunging into reality" of the EU from Lavrov. And here there are nuances. Lavrov (which means Putin) said approximately the following: to preserve the face and the remnants of cooperation, "partners" can strike Russia, but not hard ... Otherwise, we will become "independent" not only in the field of defense ... Do you feel hints?
      1. Serval Offline Serval
        Serval 13 February 2021 02: 44
        0
        Quote: Kofesan
        Lavrov (which means Putin) said ...

        Uh, not. Lavrov does not mean Putin at all. Lavrov is Russia's chief diplomat and lawyer.
        And as you know, "Language is given to a diplomat in order to hide his thoughts." At the same time, the intentions of the State, misinformation of the enemy ... and much more, which is not permissible for the President.
        * Lavrov has such a position.
  2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 12 February 2021 11: 19
    -3
    Balabol. The prisoners were not returned, people continue to be killed, etc. Don't feed with bread, let me get worn out! They cannot solve a single problem with Lavrov! From such diplomacy, one harm, both to people and to the state!
    1. Odessa Greek Offline Odessa Greek
      Odessa Greek (Greek) 12 February 2021 12: 14
      +10
      I completely agree with you, these two senile people, that Kuchma, that Kravchuk can only talk about and can, they are not able to solve anything in the Minsk format (due to age-related impotence), and they do not want to do anything, because their goal is to destroy these agreements. So, these two should be driven out of the Minsk format with pissing rags, as they drove the Ukrainian forces from the Crimea, while howling "OmErik is with us !!!!"
  3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 11: 31
    +10
    It's time to stop all this chatter in Minsk, and the lobbyists of Ukraine, with whom Putin has surrounded himself, should be kicked off the government of the Russian Federation, since the elections in the Russian Federation are not far off. It was clear to me from the very beginning that neither Ukraine nor NATO would fulfill its obligations in Minsk, and it is sad that this is still not clear to many officials in the Russian Federation, and many of them openly betray the interests of the Russian Federation and the Russian people. In Russia it has long been said - To whom much has been given, much will be demanded from that (this is about power). It's time to answer for your political miscalculations, gentlemen, and draw conclusions from them, or resign and grow cabbage in the gardens, retired, but for those who are far from retirement, go to the janitors, since they are not smart enough, or leave the Russian Federation in general, since the interests of foreign countries are more valuable than the interests of the Russian Federation
    1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
      Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 08
      0
      over 6 years Russia has purchased about 200 aircraft (very approximately, almost with a finger in the sky, an average of 60 per year) - put on duty several yars, several hundred tanks and other things. Every year - replenishment and qualitative changes in the army

      Russia is getting stronger every year. Inevitably. The later we solve the issue - the more kulamba we can throw into their garden

      in 2008, the Russian army fought on navigators with the ZhPS - now we have our own group of stable geostationary positioning

      In general, Russia is getting stronger while Europe is chatting. We concentrate. What we did in Crimea in 2014, we could not do in 2008.

      What we will do in the near future - we could not do it in 2014 (we did not even have import substitution for key positions in the military-industrial complex - engine building)

      In order not to howl into the void as a steelmaker, one must take into account the entire array of information that the cooks in the kitchen and even me do not have. What can we say about this theoretical patriot

      PS the steelmaker is a brother of Ukrainian patriots - he broadcasts here the same thing as they do, only with a slightly different sauce - but in fact - the supreme commander-in-chief gett, lustration in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc.

      The pan gets in the way of this guy's head, definitely. And at the end of the name is clearly - KO

      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 18
        +1
        Where did you get stronger there ?! The Strategic Missile Forces could fulfill their task before. The Navy could have taken Ukraine apart before, but it is not enough for a fight with NATO. But you led to the death of thousands of Russians in the Donbass, to the shelling of the Rostov region of the Russian Federation and the Crimea, to which you did not respond, so you gave a reason to repeat these shelling, since you allow this to be done with impunity.
        1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
          Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 23
          0
          Where did you get stronger there ?!

          yes everywhere. and in the Navy and in the Strategic Missile Forces and in the Land Forces and in the Air Defense and in the Aerospace Forces - in SPACE - deliveries are constantly going according to the state defense order.

          But you brought thousands of Russians to the death of Donbas

          no, it is the Ukrainians and Turchynov who are to blame for the deaths in the Donbas. And then Russia. As usual, in general - the oaths are to blame for the fact that the Ukrainians sold their faith for a pittance, they endured Odessa, they pay tax on the war with the Russians (i.e., to kill me) - of course we, the Russians, are to blame

          before the shelling of the Rostov region of the Russian Federation and the Crimea, to which you did not answer

          Yes? Crimea is now ours, and Russian passports are handed out in Donbas

          you allow it to be done with impunity.

          According to official data from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after calculating losses since the beginning of the operation in Donbass:

          As of October 28.10.2017, 10, since the beginning of the ATO, combat losses amounted to 710 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, of which 2 irrecoverable, 333 sanitary losses (injured and traumatized as a result of hostilities)

          Non-combat losses during this time amounted to 10 103 people. Of this number, 2150 people died, the rest were forced to leave the service due to health conditions. Total 20813. Of course, deserters are not taken into account, who, according to various sources, amount to over 2000 - 7622 - 10 thousand and are missing. Rounded all losses in the range of 30000 - 31000 people.
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 25
            -3
            What changed? The USA has no gunpowder, and Ukraine could have been torn apart before, but you are afraid
            1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
              Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 26
              -3
              are we afraid? not. We took Crimea. How can the one who came and took it be afraid?)

              If Russia has not done something yet, then it was in its interests.
              1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 27
                -2
                you are afraid, if they were not afraid, they would have taken both Donbass and Odessa, and you took Crimea and were afraid of yourself
                1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                  Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 28
                  0
                  you are afraid if they would not have been afraid they would have taken both Donbass and Odessa,

                  we are all waiting for the terpily to suddenly cease to endure and put things in order in their wretched barn. Is it so affordable?

                  Although looking at how the terpily grabbed Odessa and the tax on the murder of Russians according to the precepts of the Semitic Zelensky - what to save them? Bon appetit on the other side
                  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 29
                    -3
                    terpily? you were offered to give the inhabitants of Odessa a weapon ... you didn’t do that either, you described yourself from fear
                    1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                      Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 30
                      0
                      0,5% of the Natsiks put you on your knees. All of Ukraine is on its knees and then the actors write to me that it is Russia that is afraid and fearful) Slaves. You have raised some positions of housing and communal services by 1000% and it is normal

                      You're Ukrainian? You guys are clearly patient
                      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 31
                        -1
                        I am Russian and I am sick of your party of double citizens and patriots of foreign countries, in which you have bank accounts and children. Terpily sit in the Kremlin, the Chubais have you as they want
                      2. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 32
                        -2
                        and I'm sick of your party of dual citizens

                        in which you have bank accounts and children

                        are you a patient oppositionist who has been sick for 20 years?)
                        so you should have got used to it

                        You are also patient) How to go to war? Beat ukrov? Or, in theory, are you just calling to send troops into this barn and help patient residents of Odessa liberate Odessa from the clowns of the Nazis in 0,5% of the city's population?)
                      3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 34
                        -2
                        You are not used to the USSR for 70 years. So we will wait until, as Vysotsky sang -

                        Wickedness fought with her breast in her chest and worn out each other
                      4. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 35
                        -1
                        So we will wait

                        wait) and groan) as you moan for 30 years. Patient waiting) defender of the USSR with zero efficiency.

                      5. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 36
                        -2
                        The one who laughs last laughs well. Your rating is already below the plinth, like your Boriska
                      6. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 36
                        0
                        funny when a patient-ros oppositionist writes about the rating in Russia)

                        Well, tell me, who in your alluring little world has a rating higher than Putin?)

                        Grudinin, Platoshkin, Rashkin? Maybe some other unknown animal?)

                        How will you go with a lantern on February 14 to the clown revolution?
                      7. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 39
                        -2
                        It's funny another thing, that while in our area the population did not drain your party, no one bothered to make repairs in the houses, only the faces of your galley slaves did not fit into the TV. Now we have the opposition in power and my house has already been renovated ... People work, unlike you, sleeping and playing computer games at State Duma meetings, singing parasites to Murka
                      8. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 39
                        0
                        I asked you a simple question

                        which of your clowns idols has a rating higher than that of Putin? Can you read?)

                        Or do you close your minds to uncomfortable questions, like a typical dull oppositionist in Russia?)
                      9. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 40
                        0
                        Yes, everyone, except for the clown Yavlinsky, who is an even bigger clown than the followers of the Alkashtsentr. Your party in our region scored a fig in the elections
                      10. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 41
                        -3
                        you can be free)

                        be patient)
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                    2. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                      Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 46
                      -3
                      Go to the army first

                      the army vows to defend the state system. did you know about that?)
                      It seems to me that you don't even know what the oath is and who is the supreme commander in chief

                      Have you worn ducks?)
                    3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                      Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 12: 47
                      0
                      I swore allegiance to Russia, and not to your daddy who stole the Soviet vegetable base and for such ... how are you going to fight
                    4. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                      Alexndr p (Alexander) 12 February 2021 12: 48
                      -3
                      write me the text of the oath)
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                  3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 13: 11
                    +1

                    This is so with you Russia (rose).
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                  5. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
                    Just a cat (Bayun) 12 February 2021 19: 47
                    -4

                    Isn't Ukraine a case?
                  6. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 February 2021 20: 23
                    +6
                    Unfortunately not. My mother spent her whole life in 2 shifts in 2 groups at VASO, the pension is less than 15000 rubles a month, which is poverty.
                  7. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
                    Just a cat (Bayun) 12 February 2021 20: 38
                    -6
                    Questions to the enterprise, not to Putin. He did not make deductions and counted the experience.
                  8. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                    Ulysses (Alexey) 12 February 2021 22: 36
                    -3
                    no. My mother spent her whole life in 2 shifts in 2 groups at VASO, the pension is less than 15000 rubles a month, which is poverty

                    I will not fuss nonsense like "where was your mother in August 91, when the union was being dismantled"

                    However, are you able to provide a decent old age for your mother?

                    PS Mother herself is 81 years old, the biggest question is in the attention, old people live as long as they are remembered.
                  9. bear040 Offline bear040
                    bear040 13 February 2021 10: 31
                    +5
                    Yes, he can and does, although in our city prices are Moscow and African salaries. But think for yourself - If our children begin to provide for us in old age, why the devil do we need the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation and its workers in mink coats ?! This person is injured, fought, but does not live in a cottage and drives a Zhiguli, unlike those who sit from your party wiping their pants, not even bothering to sprinkle the sidewalks with sand, people broke all their legs under your (sensitive) leadership. So which of you needs Russia, and as for what everyone has long understood. For you, Russia is a cash cow, for exporting dough abroad, where you have accounts and real estate and children
            2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
              Ulysses (Alexey) 12 February 2021 22: 44
              -2
              This is so with you Russia (rose).

              You are very jarred simply from the existence of Russia.
  • Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 12 February 2021 22: 29
    -4
    you have brought to the death of thousands of Russians in Donbass, to shelling of the Rostov region of the Russian Federation and the Crimea.

    Don't be stupid.
    Crimea was not fired at at all, the Rostov region received several hundred internees temporarily ukrovoi who preferred to flee to Russia than to be disposed of for the new Kiev regime.
  • _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
    _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 13 February 2021 19: 49
    +1
    Of course, we do not have teips, however ... the son-in-law from the father's side (8 children)) and from the mother's side (4 children) the daughter-in-law from the "Ukrainians" the issue is not fundamentally resolved ... for 400 years they have grown too much into kinship and the choice here is individual and concerns it is them (Ukrainians) either with us or not (yet), then it will be tougher ... lyakh- Bandera, what's the difference ??
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  • eco3 Offline eco3
    eco3 (erwin vercauteren) 13 February 2021 07: 02
    0
    from a sinking ship they went into a lifeboat this is in my opinion the best description of the EU they ruined everything they will have to adapt or sink
  • Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 18 February 2021 12: 53
    0
    In Russia, it is possible to introduce food ration cards for the poor. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin during a meeting with the leaders of the State Duma factions.

    This is what I understand the 20-year "success" of our GDP.