A serious competitor to the Russian Su-34 has appeared in the USA

February 4 2021 53

On February 2, 2021, the first F-15EX fighter made its maiden flight, writes the American edition of Military Watch.

F-15EX - designed to become the heaviest fighter not only in the United States, but throughout the world. It is based on the Cold War F-15A Eagle, which was developed during the Vietnam War and made its first flight 49 years ago, in 1972.

The F-15EX underwent a series of upgrades and became a serious competitor to the Russian Su-34 and Su-35, as well as the Chinese J-16. Moreover, it is in many ways ahead of the F-22 and will be able to carry 22 air-to-air missiles or 28 guided bombs, which is a world record in itself. The mass of the combat load is expected to reach 12,7 tons (versus 12 tons for the Su-34).

It was possible to carry out a deep modernization, among other things, thanks to foreign orders made over the past two decades. South Korea - 60 F-15K, Israel - 25 F-15I "Raam", Saudi Arabia - 84 F-15SA and "upgrade" 70 F-15S, Singapore - 40 F-15SG, Qatar - 36 F-15QA.

In service with the United States there are now about 400 F-15C / D units aged 35-40 years. The F-15EX has significantly lower operating costs than the older F-15 variants and is built using modern of technologies.

In the summer of 2020, the Pentagon and Boeing signed a contract for the production of the first eight F-15EX for $ 1,2 billion. The military wants to get 144 such fighters for $ 23 billion. The F-15EX is expected to continue service until the 2050s, by which time the F-15 platform will fly for more than 80 years. summed up the media from the United States.

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Sergey Latyshev

+3

4 February 2021 10: 46

Despite ...... the correct approach. Without touching the run-in glider, replace the insides.
Vladimir Tuzakov

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4 February 2021 11: 48

The main thing is becoming a weapon, in the Air Force especially the air-to-air missiles, as well as the air-to-ground missiles. It is no longer who will be the first to find the enemy, maneuver, but who will reach the enemy from longer distances, with insufficient range of the enemy's weapons, because many means, from AWACS to VNOS, direct the plane to the enemy ...
assault 2019

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4 February 2021 15: 32

The military wants to get 144 such fighters for $ 23 billion.

It turns out 159,7 million dollars per plane, which is almost twice as expensive as the F-35.
assault 2019

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4 February 2021 16: 59

If the characteristics of the F-15EX are correct, then the US Air Force will receive a very formidable vehicle capable of delivering and using 2600 tons of weapons at a speed of 12,5 km / h ...
Indeed, it is 2 in1 (high-speed Su-35 with the carrying capacity of the Su-34).
1. Alexey Sergeev
  
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  7 February 2021 01: 15
  
  Well, at such a speed, all hung with weapons, he will not be able to fly, of course.
  But with 20 AIM-120 it is possible.
Browser 2.0

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4 February 2021 20: 51

It seems to me alone that it more closely resembles drying ??? Something I have not previously observed in Amerekosov similarity with our technique.
1. Michael I
  
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  5 February 2021 09: 39
  
  It has looked like this for almost 50 years. Outwardly, the first F-15s hardly differ from this. So another question, who licked who
  1. Just a cat
    
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    5 February 2021 10: 51
    
    and the wheel of the ancient ukrov was licked ...
  2. white gentleman
    
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    5 February 2021 16: 00
    
    The development of the F-15 aircraft was completed in 1972; put into operation in 1976.
    The first flight of the Su-27 prototype took place in 1977. Operation began in 1985.
    So, catch up again.
  3. Vladest
    
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    5 February 2021 22: 04
    
    Quote: Mikhail I
    It has looked like this for almost 50 years. Outwardly, the first F-15s hardly differ from this. So another question, who licked who
    
    The USSR has been doing this throughout its history. Licked. Even the MIG-15 did not take off the English engine in the USSR, and in Korea there would be nothing to shoot down the Seibars.
    1. Michael I
      
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      5 February 2021 22: 11
      
      Yes, and the first strategist was licked off the B-29
      1. boriz
        
        +1
        
        5 February 2021 23: 12
        
        Well, let's remember who made the aircraft for them: Sikorsky, Seversky, Kartveli ...
        These are only known names. How many engineers just worked for these firms?
        They will arrange a naughty in another country and parasitize on someone else's grief. The lifestyle and work of the state.
        And from your side it is simply despicable to compare this parasite state and a country that has experienced two world wars and a civil one on its territory.
      2. 123
        
        0
        
        11 February 2021 16: 28
        
        Yes, and the first strategist was licked off the B-29
        
        The first "strategist" looked like this. Who was it licked off from?
    2. boriz
      
      +3
      
      5 February 2021 22: 21
      
      That's just, for some reason, the MiGs shot down the Sabers, and not vice versa.
      1. Vladest
        
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        5 February 2021 22: 44
        
        Quote: boriz
        That's just, for some reason, the MiGs shot down the Sabers, and not vice versa.
        
        Well, lie to you like two fingers (((Lying is not solid.
        
        boriz
        
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        6 February 2021 00: 00
        
        Give reasons.
        The sad balance for the Sabers is a common knowledge.
        
        Vladest
        
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        7 February 2021 11: 42
        
        Quote: boriz
        Give reasons.
        The sad balance for the Sabers is a common knowledge.
        
        Not a visa of sense. Everyone has their own data. Check if it's not difficult. But you argued that MIGs did not go astray at all.
        The plane is a piece of iron. I don’t feel sorry for her. You'd better count 200 e
        Also consider that the USSR, a member of the UN, waged a secret war against the UN forces in that war. And your hero on MIGs who shot down not only Sibras and B52 went there like cowards. Secretly. And now they suddenly became heroes. This was the essence of the USSR. Shit and lie. Although right now, something similar ...
        
        Fourth
        
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        7 February 2021 12: 54
        
        Quote: Vladest
        Not a visa of sense. Everyone has their own data.
        
        Why are you lying so?
        
        boriz
        
        +4
        
        7 February 2021 14: 16
        
        Where did the B 52 in the Korean War come from?
        To argue with you is not to respect yourself.
        From the point of view of general erudition, you are just a larva, from the point of view of behavior, you are a brazen boor, from the point of view of your ability to discuss, you are a windbag and a talker.
        
        Vladest
        
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        7 February 2021 17: 52
        
        Quote: boriz
        Where did the B 52 in the Korean War come from?
        
        Will the B-28 work?
        
        boriz
        
        +3
        
        7 February 2021 17: 55
        
        At 29. Take a walk.
        
        Vladest
        
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        7 February 2021 18: 14
        
        Quote: boriz
        At 29. Take a walk.
        
        Thanks . At least once, they wrote the truth))). You are probably the only one here who at least checks something, and does not take it on faith.
      2. Michael I
        
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        5 February 2021 23: 30
        
        And the Sabers shot down Migi
        
        boriz
        
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        5 February 2021 23: 31
        
        I'm talking about the overall balance. It is strongly against the Sabers.
        
        Mihail1959
        
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        6 February 2021 00: 01
        
        Yes, it is, the ratio is 5: 1 in favor of the MiG-15
        
        Vladest
        
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        7 February 2021 13: 52
        
        Quote: Michael1959
        Yes, it is, the ratio is 5: 1 in favor of the MiG-15
        
        According to Soviet data?))) And the Sabers were different.
        Although 5: 1 like that .... Naryl here. According to Soviet data, the aircraft of the Air Forces of the USSR, the PRC and the DPRK shot down 1377 enemy aircraft of all types in Korea with the loss of 566.
        I wonder what the Americans drew for themselves there)))
        There is also a subtlety. Soviet mercenary pilots in Korea worked only as air defense and the UN also bombed, and these losses of the enemy should also be added as the effectiveness of UN aviation in Korea.
        
        boriz
        
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        7 February 2021 14: 30
        
        ... Soviet pilots mercenaries
        
        Justify who hired them. The 64th Fighter Aviation Corps fought in Korea.
        Just like our pilots are fighting in Syria now. It was just that it was not advertised then.
        WHO HIRED THEM? Take responsibility for your words.
        
        Vladest
        
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        7 February 2021 17: 58
        
        Quote: boriz
        Justify who hired them. The 64th Fighter Aviation Corps fought in Korea.
        
        Once secretly, it means mercenaries or volunteers. The names were changed and the uniform was changed. As you like. Just like in Spain. With Syria, an example is not appropriate. There, as it were, the Russian Federation legally. But the freshest is Libya, then there, too, as thieves, well, or, as you like or as your conscience allows.
        
        boriz
        
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        7 February 2021 18: 50
        
        There is no RF Armed Forces in Libya. Maybe PMCs. There was a military unit in Korea. Normal structure and subordination. To maintain secrecy, they were forbidden to fly over enemy territory. The same is in Vietnam, Egypt, Syria (under the USSR). In my life I have met and communicated with people who fought there and there. Yes, volunteers were recruited there. As well as to Syria now. But there were always enough people willing to go on such business trips. This had a very good effect on both career and seniority. People remained servicemen of the USSR Armed Forces.
        
        Vladest
        
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        7 February 2021 17: 54
        
        Quote: Mikhail I
        And the Sabers shot down Migi
        
        There was such a menagerie that wow. Many other aircraft models.
        
        boriz
        
        +3
        
        7 February 2021 18: 51
        
        Do you think you opened America to me? I knew about this before you were born.
        But the main point was the vulnerability of the then B29 strategists, as well as the rivalry between MiG and Saber.
        The then strategists were vulnerable to the then air defense, and Saber lost to the MiG. The USSR had time. And most importantly, I made a more successful technical solution at the moment.
        This prevented the outbreak of the Third World War. NATO's then plans to destroy the USSR turned out to be without an effective tool. In the same way, our strategists turned out to be ineffective, for it was the same B29 called Tu 4. And this race continued until the end of the 80s. And then, from 2000, it started again.
        
        Alexey Sergeev
        
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        8 February 2021 05: 41
        
        This prevented the outbreak of the Third World War.
        
        Prevented reasonable actions to de-escalate both sides.
        Let me remind you that in 1949, when the USSR had 1 (1) test device, the United States had 200 charges at its disposal.
        And a lot of bombers.
        The whole history speaks for the fact that there were plans for waging war in case the USSR decided to "go to the English Channel."
2. Just a cat
  
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  5 February 2021 10: 50
  there is no similarity.
  1. Mihail1959
    
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    6 February 2021 00: 21
    
    What a similarity! The SU-27 was originally created to beat the F-15. This is proved by the joint teachings of the Hindus and the Ovs, in which each time, with a devastating score, the Indians pulled the F-15 onto the carriage and no matter what they did, and no matter how they tried to create conditions for their own, the results were more than sad for them. There they either generally lost on a dry sheet or with a crushing score. And what can you expect, the difference in the age of 20 years, if not more. And the fact that a bunch of missiles and bombs were hung on them will only complicate the situation. Never when a multipurpose aircraft cannot surpass the specialized and compare the front-line bomber Su-34, a bomber specially sharpened for work on the surface and adapted for this fighter, it is stupid and not professional. Although the Su-34 can stand up for itself in aerial combat, this is not its main task. But the Su-35 splits the F-15, which with such an overload is not able to maneuver with large overloads and has restrictions on them. And yet, with a full load, it's just a cow to slaughter, and if it drops, it won't complete the task. And the Su-34 has a gorgeous cockpit, the pilots are sitting side by side, they can stand up to their full height, warm up and eat, relieve themselves. And therefore, our car is much more adapted to long flights. But how long the F-15 pilots will withstand is a question or will they wear diapers. :)) And the Su-34 is armored and can be used as an attack aircraft, although this is probably not very rational, and as an electronic warfare aircraft it does an excellent job. in the war 08.08.08, being in a single copy, he coped with the Georgian air defense. So this comparison of the Su-35 and the F-15 is somehow forced, well, they have nothing that can be compared with our front-line bomber, and the attempt to adapt the aircraft originally intended for gaining air superiority for bomber tasks apparently appeared due to the lack of such an aircraft.
    1. Alexey Sergeev
      
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      7 February 2021 01: 22
      
      But how long the F-15 pilots will withstand is a question or will they wear diapers. :))
      
      There are special packages for fusion "small need" (for men and women).
      
      well, the s have nothing that can be compared with our front-line bomber
      
      Sniper sighting complex, no?
      Such statements are due to unwillingness to seek information.
      
      But the Su-35 splits the F -15, which with such an overload is not able to maneuver
      
      Su-35, all hung with missiles, too, will not be able to produce many G.
      What prevents the F-15 from releasing most of its arsenal into the approaching Su-35 from a distance of 100 km (with a Max missile range of 180 km)? Why just throw good away ..
      In the event of a conflict, the Su-35 will have to fight the F-22, which will be very difficult.
      1. Vladest
        
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        7 February 2021 11: 47
        
        If you talk to a modern tanker or pilot, they will explain to you that the battle of a tank against a tank or an aircraft against an aircraft is very unlikely. On a tank or an aircraft, they will first work out countermeasures. They are always ready for battle.
        
        Alexey Sergeev
        
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        8 February 2021 00: 05
        
        Fighter vs Fighter - Low Probability ??
        On the contrary, it is quite high. Because ground-based air defense, without aircraft support, is quickly cut out by aviation technically advanced the adversary.
        
        Vladest
        
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        8 February 2021 14: 30
        
        Quote: Alexey Sergeev
        Fighter vs Fighter - Low Probability ??
        
        Let us agree that the entire range of possible air defense systems will be used against the attacker. But I still had in mind a one-on-one war, this is precisely what is unlikely.
3. Alexey Sergeev
  
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  7 February 2021 01: 16
  
  The F-15 appeared 10-15 years earlier than the Su-27.
Vladest

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5 February 2021 22: 00

Few people discuss such an issue as mass production. And according to this parameter, hardly anyone could get around the United States. This is the key to success in war.
1. boriz
  
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  5 February 2021 23: 28
  
  And what to discuss, everyone knows perfectly well. The US military-industrial complex is buying the military, both their own and those of others.
  Therefore, they are stamped in hundreds without regard to quality and reasonable necessity. The F 35 is a prime example.
  1. Vladest
    
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    7 February 2021 18: 22
    
    Quote: boriz
    Therefore, they are stamped in hundreds without regard to quality and reasonable necessity. The F 35 is a prime example.
    
    You should have attributed that they also possess hypnosis selling them)))
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  2. Alexey Sergeev
    
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    8 February 2021 00: 06
    
    Who was bought in 1991 in Iraq?
    1. boriz
      
      +1
      
      8 February 2021 00: 16
      
      It is a generally accepted fact that the top of the army was bought.
      After 2003. there were even scandals that they threw, they didn't pay what they promised.
      1. Alexey Sergeev
        
        0
        
        8 February 2021 03: 15
        
        In 2003 they bought a couple of generals, but this did not stop the resistance of the entire army. The same National Guard continued to fight fiercely.
        I repeat the question:
        
        Who was bought in 1991 in Iraq?
        
        Then there was the defeat of the army and air defense of Hussein.
boriz

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5 February 2021 23: 25

The F-15EX underwent a series of upgrades and became a serious competitor to the Russian Su-34 and Su-35, as well as the Chinese J-16.

You must first decide who he is competing with? Su 35 has already been sorted out, loses in terms of radar, missile range and maneuverability. Those. to gain air supremacy.
How does it beat the Su 34? There are no detailed reliable data on the F 15EX, again an unfounded statement.
And the cost, of course. It costs more than a talking horse.
1. bbor
  
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  6 February 2021 09: 40
  
  According to official figures, the fighter will have 12 points for the suspension and attachment of air-to-air missiles and 15 points for air-to-surface weapons. Thus, the F-15EX will become one of the most heavily armed fighters in the world at the moment.
  
  Boeing's F-15EX delivers more payload, power and range than any fighter in its class, Boeing said. The advanced architecture of the F-15 facilitates the integration of new weapons based on the latest weapon systems.
  
  It is worth noting that the not new and advanced McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle fighter was used as a "basis" for the development of the F-15EX. A "frame" was taken from McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle, which was extremely convenient and made it easy to install and change modules, equipment and weapons. At the same time, unlike its predecessor, the F-15EX has much greater maneuverability, extended ammunition and an improved set of solutions to reduce radar visibility.
  1. boriz
    
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    8 February 2021 00: 24
    
    https://topcor.ru/18509-amerikancy-sravnili-su-35-so-svoim-novym-istrebitelem-f-15ex.html
2. Alexey Sergeev
  
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  8 February 2021 00: 03
  
  Su 35 has already been sorted out, loses on the radar,
  
  On the F-15 EX (and part of the modernized C / D in service) radars with AFAR (like the F-22 or Su-57). The Su-35 has a HEADLIGHT.
  
  How does it beat the Su 34?
  
  In terms of Max ammunition mass, there is no analogue of the "Sniper" container.
  1. boriz
    
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    8 February 2021 00: 23
    
    https://topcor.ru/18509-amerikancy-sravnili-su-35-so-svoim-novym-istrebitelem-f-15ex.html
    about the radar
    As for the Su 34, it is necessary to compare in a complex manner.
    1. Alexey Sergeev
      
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      8 February 2021 03: 30
      
      The Su-34 is superior only in its cockpit reservation, "amenities" and mini-kitchens, as well as the presence of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      In all other respects it is inferior. Of course, both long-range and short-range maneuvering F-15EX will lose.
      About the article:
      there was no radar comparison. (I even know why ).
      R-37M flies a maximum of 300 km, it has a worse than on the AIM-120D seeker. Smaller max overload (24 vs 36g)
      None of these missiles will hit a maneuvering target at max range. (It can be safely divided by 2 so that there is a reserve of energy for maneuvers)
      The Su-35 will have to fight with the R-77-1 (with the ARL GOS), and even there are still very few of them. So some of the missiles will be R-27ER with PARL seeker.
      The measures to reduce the RCS are stated for EX, so the RCS will be comparable.
      About super-maneuverability: it is more legalized at subsonic speeds. With each maneuver, the plane loses speed, and this directly affects the chances of evasion.
      In an oncoming battle, a part of the Su-35 will be shot down, until the approach is 50-60 km (the optimal range for the R-77-1), it will have advantages at a distance.
      1. Alexey Sergeev
        
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        8 February 2021 03: 44
        
        With each maneuver, the plane loses speed, and this directly affects the chances of evasion.
        
        This means that several missiles will be launched against a target such as the Su-35.
cooper

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22 February 2021 01: 18

Another show-off, kaya bullshit. We passed, we know ..