"Bride" Su-57E: India returns to the issue of buying a Russian fighter


An international exhibition Aero India-2021 opens in the Indian city of Bangalore, where 14 countries will present samples of their weapons to picky customers from New Delhi. Among them will be Russia, which will have more than 200 types of weapons out of 601 declared for participation. Undoubtedly, special attention will be drawn to the export version of our fifth generation fighter Su-57E.


India's heightened interest in the most modern foreign weapons is due to its dangerous proximity to Pakistan and China, which supports it. New Delhi is happy to acquire weapons, while adhering to the principles of diversification of suppliers, so as not to depend on one one, as well as the gradual localization of their production at home. A striking example is the joint project of licensed production of the Russian T-90S tank. Our country is a long-standing partner for India, which highly values ​​Russian weapons for their high quality at a relatively low price. We brought to Bangalore the S-400 Triumph and Viking air defense systems, the K-16 armored personnel carrier and the K-17 BMP, the Ka-52 and Ka-31 helicopters, the promising multi-purpose light helicopter Ka-226T, as well as the Mi-28NE , Mi-171Sh and Mi-17V-5. The aircraft will include domestic MiG-35D and Su-35 fighters, an export version of the Il-76MD-90A (E) military transport aircraft and the Il-78MK-90A tanker aircraft. Also, the Indians will look with great interest at the Russian fifth-generation fighter Su-57E.

Rostec quite reasonably counts on deepening cooperation with New Delhi in the field of military aviation. With a dangerous neighbor like Pakistan at hand and a long-standing territorial problem with the state of Kashmir, India desperately needs the ability to dominate the airspace. The Indians began to buy Soviet MiG-21s back in 1962, and in 1967 they started their own production. In general, this determined the general vector of development of the military aircraft industry there. Almost 80% of the Indian Air Force fleet is represented by aircraft of Soviet and Russian production. There are also 50 French multirole Mirage 2000 (H / TH) and one hundred Franco-British Jaguar fighter-bombers. Among the modern ones, it is worth mentioning the Rafale fighters, a contract for the purchase of which in the amount of 7,87 billion euros was signed by New Delhi with Paris several years ago. Such is the diversification of suppliers.

True, it is necessary to mention that the French Rafale costs the Indians $ 218 million each, and the Russian Su-30MKI of the 4+ generation of local assembly - $ 83 million. The latter is a product of joint cooperation, when India received a multifunctional fighter jet to meet its requirements and assembles aircraft on its territory. Why did New Delhi suddenly start turning up its nose from Russian planes? Ill-wishers will say that because of their insufficient quality, but it seems that from the Indian side this is rather a marketing move aimed at knocking out the best conditions for themselves. Thus, specialized military publications in India note that the purchase of 110 MiG-35 and 114 Su-35 fighters from Russia may be associated with a condition for the transfer of technologies and localization of production by the customer himself. Also available in the Indian Air Force, 222 Su-30MKI fighters can be upgraded to the Super Sukhoi variant.

And we again return to the export version of the Su-57. Recall that initially it was supposed to be a joint Russian-Indian fighter of the fifth generation FGFA. However, New Delhi left this project, and our country had to bring it to mind on its own. The allegedly discerning Indians were not satisfied with the insufficient characteristics of the aircraft, which our ill-wishers are happy to repeat in every way. Indeed, the Su-57 had its own "childhood diseases" that needed to be identified and eliminated. True, the Indian daily The Economic Times, citing its sources, explained this decision with completely different motives. The Defense Research and Development Organization of India (DRDO) was primarily interested in the technologies of fifth generation fighters for their independent production. New Delhi then considered that they either already exist or are in the final stages of development. That is, the problem was not the poor quality of Russian fifth-generation fighters, but rather the intellectual property rights.

It is possible that making a combat aircraft of this level for India on its own turned out to be a somewhat more difficult task than initially imagined. Recently, Air Marshal of the Indian Air Force, Birender Singh Dhanova, spoke about the conditions for the acquisition of the Su-57 from Russia:

When it has already been put into service with you, only then will we be able to make a decision for ourselves. We are ready to consider it for acquisition after we see it in the case, and it will be submitted to us for consideration - assessment.

That is, the Indians did not give up on the project at all, but only temporarily removed themselves from it, allowing Moscow to eliminate all its "childhood diseases" at its own expense. Cynical, but pretty practical. And now New Delhi itself has asked to bring an export version of the Russian fifth generation fighter jet to his “bride”. For its part, our country is clearly ready for more flexible cooperation with a picky partner. Andrey Yelchaninov, First Deputy Chairman of the Board of the Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation, said last year:

Various delivery options are being considered: a separate aircraft and an aircraft with a full range of weapons, with an after-sales service system. In addition, at the request of the customer, the appearance of the aircraft can be modified. So we are confidently talking about the export prospects of the Su-57.

It is quite possible that Rostec is ripe for the transfer of technology and localization of production of the Su-57E in India, and this fighter has more promising prospects than our enemies see it.
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  1. wolf46 Offline wolf46
    wolf46 3 February 2021 12: 59
    +1
    It made sense to sell advanced military technology abroad
    in the 90s and XNUMXs, and now it looks like sabotage.
    1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
      Alexndr p (Alexander) 3 February 2021 13: 10
      0
      Now let's connect with logic, why should Russia now give up its sales markets to England, America and France? Let them sell modern technologies?

      You call it sabotage the workload of our facilities for contracts with India?

      You are not an oppositionist by chance? If so, the question is removed. It is useless to search for logic among this sad tribe
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 3 February 2021 13: 39
        +1
        Quote: Alexander P
        You are not an oppositionist by chance? If so, the question is removed. It is useless to search for logic among this sad tribe

        Why do you deny people with other political views the right to their opinion and logic?
        1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
          Alexndr p (Alexander) 3 February 2021 13: 54
          +6
          because I don't always count them as people)

          Because if you use logic, then any adequate character will shy away from this ... substance, so to speak. There is no sadder spectacle - than the dull Ghus opposition

          Or maybe I don’t know any cool oppositionists. Maybe you know?)

          Grudinin, Rashkin, Platohnik, Bulk, Katz, Shats, Albats. Who else is there?) Emo-communism closely intertwined with liberda and foreign funding of clownery is still a cocktail. What adequate person would mess with it?


          I will say even more - I despise all this substance and the herd that it takes to the streets
          1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) 3 February 2021 13: 58
            -2
            because I don't always count them as people)

            It doesn't sound very nice, don't you think?

            Because if you use logic, then any adequate character will shy away from this ... substance, so to speak. There is no sadder spectacle - than the dull Ghus opposition

            And who do you refer to it in general? We have a dismal systemic opposition, completely loyal to the authorities, and non-systemic. Many people do not like what is happening in the country, and they have their own truth and their own logic.
            1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
              Alexndr p (Alexander) 3 February 2021 13: 59
              +2
              and they have their own truth and their own logic.

              and Katz with Albats and Latin with Venediktov have their own opinion. But for me these are animals) even such vomit as chikatilo had its own opinion.

              It doesn't sound very nice, don't you think?

              shaking the state system to clowns is not beautiful, especially for me - a person who publicly vowed to defend the constitutional system from such waffles (the one who wears or wore shoulder straps, everyone swore) - just someone's oath has died out, as he has a very short shelf life

              We have a dismal systemic opposition

              I asked you about another opposition. example. surnames. Maybe I really don't know someone of these non-systemic characters. I feel the names of people, I will not see there. But always ready to test this theory
              1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                Marzhecki (Sergei) 4 February 2021 06: 42
                0
                Quote: Alexander P
                I asked you about another opposition. example. surnames. Maybe I really don't know someone of these non-systemic characters. I feel the names of people, I will not see there. But always ready to test this theory

                I am not an expert on the non-systemic opposition of Russia. If you wore epaulettes, you will find the names yourself without my prompts.

                and Katz with Albats and Latin with Venediktov have their own opinion. But for me these are animals) even such vomit as chikatilo had its own opinion.

                You changed the concepts here a little, but oh well.
                1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                  Alexndr p (Alexander) 4 February 2021 10: 58
                  0
                  I am not an expert on the non-systemic opposition of Russia.

                  well, become a specialist, tell me about bright faces
                  for now, a place for our clowns in the stall. Where did the majority define them?
                  1. Alexander Sergeev_3 (Alexander Sergeev) 9 February 2021 23: 21
                    -1
                    I had to register to write ...

                    opposition is not people and substance ... bosses are always right

                    a typical patriot ... who told you that your filthy words reflect the majority ... the opposition has a civic position and they see where the state is going ... what is going on with the industry, and you are either a scoundrel or
                    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
                      sgrabik (Sergei) 14 February 2021 15: 49
                      +2
                      Alexander Sergeev_3 (Alexander Sergeev), you yourself, would be silent, the defender of the orphan and the poor, if you listened to what the overwhelming majority of ordinary adequate people think and talk about the vile traitor and pro-Western six, Navalny, and about his henchmen, you would not defend this so-called opposition, in fact, is just a bunch of vile traitors who sold their homeland and soul to the devil for three pieces of silver !!!
      2. avg Offline avg
        avg (Alexander) 3 February 2021 15: 50
        +2
        Why should Russia now give up its sales markets to England, America and France?

        Of these countries, only the United States has a 5th generation fighter, but they will not sell it to India due to sanctions for the S-400, etc. There is no talk at all about technology transfer. The French swindle was enough for them. China will not sell its aircraft to India either. What remains is the Su-57 and an excellent advantageous position for Russia. Conclusion - there is nowhere to rush, to crush them methodically and competently, you can even fulfill their wishes, but with their money.
      3. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 4 February 2021 02: 16
        +2
        Do you propose to give the technology of our latest engines to them?
        Do Americans do that? There is some kind of limit beyond which one cannot go. And since the Indians did not want to enter the business with money, then this limit should also shift not in favor of the Indians. Nothing personal, just business.
        1. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
          Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 15 February 2021 03: 11
          0
          Do you propose to give the technology of our latest engines to them?
          Do Americans do that?

          Boriz - are you adequate? Or maybe you swim in an aquarium with Guppy fish? The F-22 has an f-119 engine, and the F-35 iron has an improved copy of the f-135, which the Americans shove to all their sixes. Yes! Americans do just that, sell their high-tech! The Papuans eat a cactus, cry, but take it.
      4. EXPrompt Offline EXPrompt
        EXPrompt (EXPrompt) 4 February 2021 10: 38
        +1
        Here you need to understand.
        It's not even about the transfer of technology from the Russian Federation to the Indians, it's just an excuse.
        Hindus are an ancient trading nation, bargaining is in their blood.

        So all these dances with a tambourine, to give up su57, etc., etc. This is nothing more than trade and an attempt to bring down the price for a 5th generation fighter, which they will have to buy anyway, they have a hostile environment from all sides.
        The Chinese are already blowing the trumpets, they already have a 5th generation destroyer and obviously the Chinese will not sell it, and the United States will not sell it either. So no options.
    2. smersh chek Offline smersh chek
      smersh chek (smersh chek) 3 February 2021 15: 51
      +1
      there will be no technology transfer! Indians even su30 could not copy, unlike the Chinese
    3. rotkiv04 Online rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 3 February 2021 19: 29
      +2
      unfortunately now the loot wins the good, the ineffective managers will sell their mother
  2. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
    Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 3 February 2021 16: 53
    -3
    Well, regarding the sale - this is still the wishlist of the military-industrial complex of Russia. And what to sell, the one and only Su, which has not been able to take off for decades and it is unclear whether it will take off?
    1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
      Alexndr p (Alexander) 3 February 2021 16: 54
      +3
      again you felt wet)
      Have you been worrying about the Russian military-industrial complex for many years?

      how did it affect him? Or wet posts on the Internet can not affect anything and arms sales how did they go?)

      the one and only Su who can't take off for decades

      some kind of offended Ukrainian maniac right. I sometimes read such moans on the dialogue ya
      1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
        Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 3 February 2021 16: 56
        -5
        Has it already taken off? Then load into a transporter and send to Bangalore before you crash!
        1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
          Alexndr p (Alexander) 3 February 2021 16: 57
          +4
          Yes, Russia does not produce fighters at all. We are starving. We eat hedgehogs. You can clap your wet hands, warrior

          And the fact that more than 500 units (of course, among them not only SU - but Sukikh most of all) have been bought since 2008 for the Aerospace Forces, it's a dream.

          Soo he is, he is

          the only one
          1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
            Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 3 February 2021 17: 02
            -5
            It’s a pity, poor You poor, don’t you cut off the bark? Well, do not worry, I read SU-57 on the site soon, it will become irrelevant, on the approach of the MiG-41 generation 6 +++++, eat off, you have to wait a little, and there you will begin to equip the Moon with China, and the MiG will come in handy!
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              1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 3 February 2021 17: 13
                -1
                Well, do not get so excited, the blow will be enough, what, you sell and it's good, it's bad when they stop taking it!
                1. avg Offline avg
                  avg (Alexander) 3 February 2021 17: 26
                  +2
                  Why don't you answer questions, are you ashamed? If you are shell-shocked, then go get treatment, at the same time, on the advice of the specialists of the "Telegram-channel KlymenkoTime", you will get accustomed to gasoline from covid. One problem, he is also Russian.
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            2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 4 February 2021 06: 39
              +1
              The MiG-41 has other tasks
            3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
              sgrabik (Sergei) 14 February 2021 16: 09
              +1
              Quote: Alexander K_2
              It’s a pity, poor You poor, don’t you cut off the bark?

              Connoisseur dropout, you'd better take pity on yourself and at the same time treat your head !!!
            4. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
              Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 15 February 2021 03: 20
              0
              K_2
              And you, sho on the way, Zrada, chi peremoga? Probably Mriya - a hundred! An - 225 how much riveted?
              ---
              What is K_2? Are you sho, dog breeder?
          2. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
            Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 3 February 2021 17: 09
            -3
            That out of 500 not only Su is clear, the models exhibited at exhibitions also count!
            1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
              Alexndr p (Alexander) 3 February 2021 17: 38
              +1
              stupid hysteric with indistinct hysteria) but nothing. we will define your ailment as a heroic deed
            2. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
              Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 15 February 2021 02: 46
              0
              And what models do you have? Well tell me, maybe we don't know? On Polish forums, psheks also win all American shnyaga ...
    2. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
      Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 15 February 2021 03: 40
      0
      The hotels of the military-industrial complex of Russia are on the 2nd place in the world in terms of sales. And yes, the Su-57 took off ten years ago, while you were cleaning the toilet in Poland.
  3. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 3 February 2021 18: 29
    -5
    They have been suffering with the F35 for a long time, and the SU57 is generally a crude plane. The 5th generation is a very complex machine.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 4 February 2021 02: 22
      +2
      That's the difference. The F35 got stamped in the hundreds and then it turned out to be shit. And most of the jambs can no longer be eliminated. We have tested the Su 57 on single copies. The series will go without any special comments. Normal practice for defense production, who understands.
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 4 February 2021 10: 00
        -4
        Quote: boriz
        That's the difference. F35 stamped in the hundreds and then it turned out that shit

        I wonder who is more stupid than YOU or tens of thousands of those who make them and EVEN those who want to buy them?
        Something in your statement is false. Understand.
        1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
          sgrabik (Sergei) 14 February 2021 16: 05
          +1
          Nobody wants to buy them voluntarily, the Americans very cleverly imposed obligations to buy the F-35 on their NATO partners.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 3 February 2021 18: 42
    0
    Su again, india again.
    Those Dancers will dance for a long time.
    Since there are Dancers, and here are promises.
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 4 February 2021 10: 54
    0
    Such Russia Su carries everywhere. But for now ....

    Even the terrorist Endogan was offered, but he did not appreciate ...
    1. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
      Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 15 February 2021 02: 50
      0
      Erdogan was offered the F-35, but he did not appreciate it. Instead of shit, I decided to buy real S-400 weapons.
  6. wolf46 Offline wolf46
    wolf46 5 February 2021 14: 31
    +1
    Quote: Alexander P
    You call it sabotage the workload of our facilities for contracts with India?

    Yes, if it happens to the detriment of its own aircraft: you need to establish production at home and begin to saturate your VKS.

    Quote: avg
    Conclusion - there is nowhere to rush, to crush them methodically and competently, you can even fulfill their wishes, but with their money.

    I agree, and that the batch of aircraft under the contract should be more than a hundred, not with the SU-35 and China (24). Question, incl. scale, localization of production (technology transfer) to discuss after the "trial" batch.