Why the US does not believe that Russia is ready for a nuclear war over Kaliningrad


This summer, a large-scale exercise will take place in Europe with the involvement of the US military under the name "DEFENDER Europe-2021". The open secret is that the US intends to "defend" Europe from Russia by attacking our Kaliningrad region. It is generally accepted that all these maneuvers are purely theoretical in nature, since Moscow has the second most powerful nuclear arsenal in the world, and therefore no one dares to attack us. But what if that's not entirely true?


The Kaliningrad region is separated from the rest of the Russian Federation, sandwiched between Poland and Lithuania. This westernmost bastion of ours is both a great force and an "Achilles heel". Ships and submarines of the Baltic Fleet, equipped with Kalibr cruise missiles, as well as Iskander-M missiles deployed in the exclave, are capable of covering the main elements of NATO's military infrastructure in Europe. No armed conflict between the North Atlantic Alliance and Russia can be started without eliminating the threat from Kaliningrad. Military exercises of the relevant subject, aimed at blockade, mining of sea routes and seizure are carried out by the western bloc with unenviable regularity.

In 2020, the most ambitious NATO maneuvers in recent history were to take place with the participation of US troops, who were supposed to work out the transfer to Europe. Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the desired was not achieved, so the Pentagon intends to catch up this year. American tanks, helicopters, artillery with M270 MLRS, infantry and military engineers will arrive from overseas. Together with the Poles, Germans, Italians and other European allies, it is a formidable force, a serious strike force aimed at Kaliningrad. Well, where else?

For a successful operation to seize the Russian exclave, the NATO bloc will have to break into the "no-access zone A2 / AD". Analysts of the American Center for Naval Analyzes presented how it might look in practice. With the first blow, the alliance will have to hit the Iskander ammunition depot of the 152nd Guards Missile Brigade of the Baltic Fleet, while destroying the fleet itself. For this, American self-propelled 155-mm howitzers and self-propelled guns of the M109A3 type will have to be used from Polish territory. If some Russian ships manage to leave Baltiysk, they will be greeted at sea with Naval Strike Missile (NSM) anti-ship cruise missiles. It will be possible to open the air defense system of Kaliningrad with the help of the WR-40 Langusta MLRS, destroying the Russian S-400 air defense systems from the ground, and strike UAVs. After that, NATO aircraft will take over dominance in the sky, which will destroy Russian armored vehicles and the remnants of the military infrastructure of the Russian Defense Ministry.

All this sounds very unpleasant, but such "extreme" scenarios are quite rightly countered by the fact that Russia is a nuclear power, and an attack on an exclave will be an attack on our entire country with all the ensuing consequences. In accordance with the military doctrine, the RF Ministry of Defense will have the right to use tactical nuclear weapons for "escalation with the aim of de-escalation." All this is so, therefore, the last conclusion of the Center for Naval Analyzes experts is somewhat straining:

Any action that weakened the Russian military in the early days of any conflict could be decisive for a future war in Central Europe ... Full-scale war is an unlikely scenario.

For some reason, American analysts are sure that not only the distant United States, but also Europe itself, will not get a nuclear strike from President Vladimir Putin, and the conflict over Kaliningrad will only be local. Why is a full-scale war with the use of nuclear weapons unlikely?

Let's make a reservation right away, we'll talk about the most “extreme” scenario, when things are going really badly, and all the plates with the West are finally smashed to smithereens. Partially this question we raisedconsidering a hypothetical power scenario of Japan against the Kuril Islands. The point is that the West and the East are consistently pursuing activities in the direction of recognizing the USSR as guilty of the beginning of the Second World War as the Third Reich. Already equated "Nazism and Stalinism", it is also "established" that Hitler's aggression was the result of the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, etc. The logic of what is happening is obvious: since Moscow is guilty of the worst war in history to the same extent as Berlin, then it must begin to repent and pay. Accordingly, all territorial acquisitions of the USSR and the Russian Federation as its legal successor will be considered illegal.

If, God forbid, something like this happens, the worst can happen. Japan, with the support of the US Pacific Fleet and NATO, will simultaneously begin operations to seize their "illegally annexed" territories. Not the fact that the war on two fronts would have been pulled by the Soviet Union, where is the current Russian Federation to it? If our country is preliminarily denigrated, having been appointed guilty of unleashing the Second World War, will the Kremlin be ready to use nuclear weapons, starting the Third, nuclear? Russia will instantly find itself in complete isolation, from the West and the East it will have two conflicts at once with the militarily most serious opponents. This is a very, very bad deal.

Nuclear weapons can both stop aggressors and become the trait after which there will be no return. This even if there is no global exchange of nuclear strikes, and only tactical will be applied.

We do not know exactly what considerations American analysts are guided by when they come to the conclusion that the war for Kaliningrad will not be full-scale and certainly not non-nuclear. Perhaps they are guided by some other considerations and information they know. But in their "extreme" scenario, nuclear weapons are taken into account. It is clear that no one will rent Kaliningrad and the Kuriles so easily to the Germans and the Japanese. Apparently, if you have to fight, then the old fashioned way, with conventional weapons. The enemy is strong, very strong. But our soldiers are not sleeping either, they are preparing for different options. The most cunning plans of attack tend to crumble, and the sharp teeth of the aggressor tend to break against the fierce resistance and fortitude of the soldiers. In defensive wars, we are traditionally very strong. Let's believe that in the end, many Russians will be able to visit Western Europe, Berlin, Paris and Brussels, at the expense of their native state through the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. This has happened more than once.
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  1. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 1 February 2021 15: 40
    -3
    Oh! did the Japanese set their sights on Kaliningrad? The Germans do not want anything for a long time, if anything. The Germans themselves are cramped from the Arabs, from Google too. - people! Someone broke Google again! Arabs and Negroes change to Google. I didn't understand the message, but it's cool.
  2. Dimy4 Offline Dimy4
    Dimy4 (Dmitriy) 1 February 2021 15: 57
    +5
    Let us believe that in the end many Russians will be able to visit Western Europe, Berlin, Paris and Brussels, at the expense of their native state through the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    Better by ordinary tourists for their good salary. True, there are problems with the latter, but the state just needs to work on this.
    1. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
      Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 6 February 2021 15: 10
      -1
      In your opinion it is Putin's personal fault that you have a small salary. Have you tried it yourself?
      1. Dimy4 Offline Dimy4
        Dimy4 (Dmitriy) 6 February 2021 19: 36
        0
        Are you an ill-mannered comrade (or master?). No need to poke a stranger. Putin is your state? And maybe you have no problems with work in the region, employers stand in line in search of workers, offering them a salary of 100 tr. Do you live in Russia?
        1. LS R Offline LS R
          LS R (LS R) 6 February 2021 23: 00
          +2
          And how to make employers pay 100 thousand a month? Well, for example, a man works at a car wash and wants 100 thousand. How much will it cost to wash a car? And if you transfer these salaries to a bakery, for example. How much will the bread cost?
          Eventually, prices will skyrocket and the consumer basket will be empty. Similar proposals were discussed 20 years ago in Germany. (I lived there)
          Economists in serious journals have explained why this does not work. For example, in London, salaries are 2 times higher than in Germany. But there a bun costs 5 euros (translated from pounds sterling, into euros). That is, people have the same standard of living.
          But what is the danger of such a policy? Here's what:
          Firms that produce something will become non-competitive. Because, the same shoes will be cheaper to buy from adidas, since they moved their production to China. There in China, a whole town with a concern. German engineers and specialists from technical control department live there. Schools for German children. But the main labor force is the Chinese, who work for 200-300 dollars. And this is for 15-20 thousand rubles. At the same time, the quality is excellent. This is being followed by German technologists in China.
          So think about who will buy Russian goods if you give everyone a salary of 100 thousand. Unfortunately, economics, like physics, has its own laws.
          Remember how they said at school. If it has disappeared somewhere, then it has arrived somewhere. Here I am not speaking my own conclusions, but simply conveying in my own words what the German experts said. By the way, do you remember the German companies Gründig? Blaupunkt? Where are they? They are no longer there, and not because Putin ruined them))) They could not stand the competition from Samsung and other Asian firms. Again, the same problem. Cheap labor.
      2. George W. Bush - medium (George Bush - average) 7 February 2021 18: 31
        0
        He works. Like a troll.
      3. Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
        Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 8 February 2021 06: 49
        0
        He promises 20 million high-paying jobs by 2020. And a lot more.
    2. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
      Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 6 February 2021 15: 28
      +1
      Anecdote:

      An American is asked what car do you drive at home? He answers - at Ford. And if you need to travel abroad, what car will you take? I'll go in a Cadillac.
      They ask a German - what car do you drive at home?
      - at Volkswagen.
      And if you are asked to go abroad, what kind of transport would you prefer?
      -Mercedes, the German answers
      They ask a Russian - what do you drive at home?
      - by trolleybus ...
      What if you need to travel abroad? Russian answers
      - Yes, I don’t need your abroad.
      No, but still, if you are asked, where will you go?
      - Yes, I don’t need it, we are good at home.
      - Well, well, if they ask very, very strongly, where will you go?
      - Well, if it is very strong, then on the tank!
  3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 1 February 2021 16: 08
    +8
    We ourselves give the West a reason to doubt and not believe in the inevitability of an adequate response to aggression against us, we cannot give in all the time and constantly back down, any of our manifestations of weakness and indecision give rise to similar opinions in them, we need to be more decisive and much harsher, we cannot reduce everything to expressing concerns and puffing out your cheeks, you need to demonstrate your strength and confidence more often, as well as convince our opponents that, if the need arises, we will not hesitate and for our protection we are guaranteed to use all our military arsenal, including the nuclear component! !!
    1. Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
      Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 8 February 2021 06: 50
      0
      If we use the entire available arsenal, then the entire available one will be applied to us.
      Shitty script.
  4. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 1 February 2021 16: 56
    -3
    We do not know exactly what considerations American analysts are guided by when they come to the conclusion that the war for Kaliningrad will not be full-scale and definitely non-nuclear.

    We don't know, but we know ...
    It is difficult to say what considerations the author is guided by, claiming that he knows what conclusions American analysts are coming to. Apparently they (analysts) report to him. And in general, are analysts like British scientists?
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 09: 03
      0
      We don't know, but we know ...
      It is difficult to say what considerations the author is guided by, claiming that he knows what conclusions American analysts are coming to. Apparently they (analysts) report to him. And in general, are analysts like British scientists?

      Well, what kind of self-contradicting nonsense are you writing ...
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  6. rudolff Offline rudolff
    rudolff (Rudolf) 1 February 2021 18: 07
    +1
    Section III. Conditions for the transition of the Russian Federation to the use of nuclear weapons.
    ...
    19. The conditions determining the possibility of the use of nuclear weapons by the Russian Federation are:
    a) the receipt of reliable information about the launch of ballistic missiles attacking the territory of the Russian Federation and (or) its allies;
    b) the use by the adversary of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction across the territories of the Russian Federation and (or) its allies;
    c) the enemy’s impact on critical state or military facilities of the Russian Federation, the failure of which will lead to the disruption of the response of nuclear forces;
    d) aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is jeopardized.

    It is from this that the Americans proceed when developing such plans. Possible conflicts over Kaliningrad and the Kuriles will be waged with conventional weapons, no one wants to unleash a third world war over these territories. The likelihood of their loss for Russia is very high. With regard to Kaliningrad specifically, there is also an additional factor not in favor of Russia. A.G. Lukashenko. Which may not permit the conduct of hostilities from its territory, as well as the redeployment of any Russian military units through Belarus. The issues of Kaliningrad and Smoke are very complicated and they don't just throw up their hats.
    1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) 1 February 2021 18: 25
      -1
      The issues of Kaliningrad and the Kuriles are very complicated and they don’t just throw up hats.

      I agree. True, there are significant differences between the Kuriles and Kaliningrad. Kaliningrad is not a disputed territory, it cannot be the target of a conflict, but only a territory where a conflict can flare up. With the Kurils, the opposite is true, they are themselves the subject of potential conflict. If a local conflict is possible for the Kuriles, then it is more than doubtful to keep Kaliningrad in the pre-nuclear phase.
      1. Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
        Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 8 February 2021 06: 54
        0
        The most "fun" will be if, right during these events, China makes an ultimatum to Russia for the return of a part of the Far East to it (which the Republic of Ingushetia rejected during a difficult period for it in the 19th century).
    2. Uneven Offline Uneven
      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 1 February 2021 19: 18
      -5
      It must be borne in mind that even with the indicated reasons, a nuclear strike does not occur automatically. An order from the commander in chief is required. In addition, there are intermediate structures on which the implementation of this order depends. Taking into account the personal characteristics of the responsible persons, I have absolutely no confidence that in ANY scenario it can come to the direct use of nuclear weapons.
  7. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
    Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 1 February 2021 18: 16
    -4
    And it never occurs to any of these alarmists that the West does not need to attack Russia at all. Well, really - why? Why trillions of dollars for the war, millions of victims and land uninhabitable, if they already receive from Russia everything they need at a reasonable price? Just after 2014 and everything that happened then they are very afraid, so they conduct all these exercises. And the fact that the western neighbors of Russia are members of NATO, and not the CSTO, then, as they say, they have to themselves those who want and be where they want. Let the CSTO and the EAEU be more attractive than NATO and the EU, they themselves will ask you.
    1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) 1 February 2021 19: 42
      +1
      I have never been an alarmist, but I take into account the possible conflict due to mistakes and the escalation of a local conflict out of the blue. I think this is unlikely, but probably.
      1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
        Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 1 February 2021 19: 45
        -4
        Well, except that mistakes, the human factor, etc., this cannot be ruled out, of course, but I am absolutely sure that the West will not deliberately attack Russia in any case, for the reasons indicated above.
    2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 1 February 2021 20: 14
      +3
      And it never occurs to any of these alarmists that the West absolutely does not need to attack Russia. Well, in fact, why?

      Disband NATO, cancel all maneuvers and grow tea roses instead of new weapons.

      And we will believe you.
      1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
        Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 1 February 2021 20: 20
        -9
        Actually, today it is the Kremlin that is brandishing its new wunderwaves. Let it abandon them, return Crimea to its rightful owners, stop supporting the separatists (and in Russia itself, any manifestations of separatism are punished mercilessly). And the West will believe you. Since it has absolutely no need to attack you, you sell them everything they need at a fair price.
        1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
          Ulysses (Alexey) 1 February 2021 21: 01
          +7
          In fact, today it is the Kremlin who is brandishing its new wunderwaves, let them abandon them, return Crimea to their rightful owners, and stop supporting the separatists (and in Russia itself, any manifestations of separatism are punished mercilessly).

          And the West will believe you

          After the 90s with the expansion of NATO it is already purple for us whether the West believes.

          The main thing is that we do not believe everyone pink carrots and empty promises.
          "Love has passed, tomatoes wilted."
          Only the disarmament of NATO and the demilitarization of Europe can convince us of your good intentions.

          Show "new thinking" and your commitment to "global values". smile
          1. Binder Online Binder
            Binder (Miron) 1 February 2021 21: 46
            -8
            Quote: Ulysses
            Show "new thinking" and your commitment to "global values

            Well, yes, Ukraine at one time reduced spending on the army to the limit, voluntarily renounced nuclear weapons and received the annexation of Crimea and pro-Russian separatists in the Donbass. No, gentlemen Russians, you can only deal with holding your finger on the trigger.
            1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
              Ulysses (Alexey) 1 February 2021 22: 23
              +7
              Are we going to encroach on the state of the bindyuzhnik ?? laughing
              You are there to start with the Lebanese Hezbollah deal.

              PSSmart people have long been saying that the IDF is not the same as it was in the last century.
              Fighting in foreign territory for their corrupt bosses is not particularly eager.
              So, you can still shoot, bomb from afar.
              No more...
              1. Binder Online Binder
                Binder (Miron) 1 February 2021 22: 34
                -9
                Quote: Ulysses
                You are there to start with the Lebanese Hezbollah deal.

                It's funny to hear from those who pay tribute to a handful of Chechen shepherds. laughing And Hezbollah was sorted out back in 2006, since then her warriors are even afraid to fart loudly at our border, and their Fuhrer Nasrallah will not climb out of the bunker.

                Quote: Ulysses
                Smart people have long said that the IDF is not the same as it was in the last century.

                What kind of "smart people" chase away such a blizzard? lol

                Quote: Ulysses
                Fighting in foreign territory for their corrupt bosses is not particularly eager.

                And about the corruption of state officials not to tell the Russians - your corrupt officials certainly have no analogues in the world, with which I congratulate you love
                1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                  Ulysses (Alexey) 1 February 2021 22: 49
                  +5
                  It is ridiculous to read from those who support the Palestinians, pays tribute, and this is normal in Israel.

                  Hezbollah has piled up on you notably, it didn't work out with "meat".
                  It remains only to tell stories about the "bunkers". laughing

                  And the Russians are far from your corrupt officials, do not la-la .. wink
                  1. Binder Online Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 2 February 2021 04: 41
                    -5
                    Not a single Arab receives a broken penny from Israel for nothing, it is not good to lie.

                    Quote: Ulysses
                    "meat" it did not work out.

                    During the month of offensive battles, the Israelis lost 121 soldiers killed, the enemy suffered at least sevenfold casualties in manpower.
                    And they don't build palaces with golden toilets for our presidents.
                    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                      Ulysses (Alexey) 2 February 2021 21: 03
                      +2
                      During the month of offensive battles, the Israelis lost 121 soldiers killed, the enemy suffered at least sevenfold casualties in manpower.
                      And they don't build palaces with golden toilets for our presidents.

                      Why not a hundredfold ??

                      Our presidents are not tried for raping their subordinate. wassat

                      PS Photos of the golden toilet can you go to the studio?
                2. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
                  Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 2 February 2021 00: 11
                  +1
                  Well, I would not argue that in the 2006 war, all the tasks were completed and the war was successful for Israel. The losses of the Jews were sensitive and they themselves admitted that this war was far from being so successful for them.
                  1. Binder Online Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 2 February 2021 04: 45
                    -6
                    The goal of the war was formulated very clearly - to ensure tranquility on the Lebanese border. Since 2006 there it is quiet as in a cemetery, therefore, the goal was achieved.
                    1. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
                      Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 2 February 2021 14: 17
                      +1
                      I will not take an extreme point of view on the 2006 war, such as this former general https://iz.ru/news/383705, who declared that Israel lost. Institute "Dialogue", which was published by the influential newspaper Haaretz.https: //www.bbc.com/russian/international/2014/08/140806_israel_protective_edge_results, where they said that neither side in the last conflict won.
                      1. Binder Online Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 2 February 2021 17: 46
                        -6
                        I am not interested in the opinion of the street, I am trying to understand the real state of affairs. The goal is achieved - it means the war has been won.
                      2. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
                        Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 2 February 2021 21: 26
                        +2
                        just the goals were fulfilled only partially, it means the war WASN'T won. And that's exactly why I took as an example the opinion of different parties and people. Both of them believe that for Israel it was not a very successful war and it was NOT won ...
          2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 08: 58
            +4
            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            No, gentlemen Russians, you can only deal with holding your finger on the trigger.

            Well, who would speak there from Israel
            1. Binder Online Binder
              Binder (Miron) 2 February 2021 17: 53
              -5
              It is for us in Israel to talk about the peacefulness of the Russians, who for decades, up to the collapse of the USSR, armed, trained and supported our worst enemies in every possible way. However, even today Russian weapons are supplied to regimes hostile to Israel, so sing songs about the peacefulness of Russians to someone more naive, although there are no more people in the world who will believe them ...
          3. Kedrovich Offline Kedrovich
            Kedrovich (Alexa980) 5 February 2021 19: 55
            0
            Ukraine, like Kazakhstan, would never have received an operating nuclear weapon. The fact that they had mines does not mean anything at all. Only in metal. Because all decision-making and launching lines were taken strictly in Moscow. Technically, they could not own it. And you can't launch a rocket from the mine without giving instructions from the gene. headquarters. So stop torturing this lute.
          4. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
            Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 6 February 2021 15: 38
            +2
            Ukraine is the Russian land, and Israel is the occupied Palestine.
            What is it smeared with honey for you, student? Your "ancient" people, We remind us of the Nazis - the same arrogance, arrogance, and imaginary superiority based on false ideals.
        2. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
          Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 1 February 2021 22: 44
          -8
          So in the West, they do not believe in Russian false promises, but they see waving their wunderwaves, as well as Russian aggression against Ukraine and support for the separatists. Well, adherence to the Budapest Memorandum, of course. As for NATO expansion, who is to blame for your former vassals they spat on you as soon as possible and just as amicably asked to join NATO. Apparently, it was so “good” for them under the heel of the “great-mighty.” And now they have the right to join anywhere and choose their allies. , the return of Crimea to its rightful owners, the end of support for the separatists and the abandonment of the arms race can convince us of your good intentions. Well, of course, after 2014 the West is already purple whether Russia believes it. Of course, a bad peace is always better than a good war, but forget about trust forever. Continue to engage in "import substitution", fence off from the West, have thugs like the DPRK as friends. Comrades, you are going the right way, "Day of the Oprichnik" and "Sugar Kremlin" not formountains.
          1. Dear sofa expert. 1 February 2021 23: 55
            +6
            Only an end to the aggression, the return of Crimea to its legal owners ...

            Russia became the legal owner of Crimea as a result of 20 wars against the Turks and the Crimean Khanate.

            Do you want to become the legal owner of Crimea? Take it back from Russia!

            You returned Crimea to Russia in 2014 without firing a shot. Why?
            Because you always knew that he did not belong to you de facto.
            1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
              Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 14: 41
              -8
              Yes, you yourself have brought Crimea to the zugunder, in due time you will return it yourself, you have not tried real sanctions, and they will still be inevitable. And only you yourself, no one else, consider yourself to be its legal owner.
              1. Dear sofa expert. 2 February 2021 15: 38
                +3
                Yes, you yourself have brought Crimea to a zugunder, in due time you will return

                If you may not have noticed, Crimea has already been returned. Anyway, do not worry so much about what does not belong to you.
                And by the way, I don't understand your frustration at all, about this. Just try to take and look at it as a voluntary, fraternal contribution of Russia to your Ukrainian plans for "decommunization", or, as you call it, your obsessive desire,
                to get rid of everything connected with your "Soviet past"?
                Well, Crimea, like nothing better, fits into this topic.
                1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                  Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 15: 42
                  -6
                  Yes, you can, of course, show your "wit", but again no one in the world, except you yourself, considers Crimea to be yours, and real sanctions are ahead. They have ruined the agricultural sector and have not even been able to provide the population with drinking water for more than 6 years, although according to all international laws this is the duty of the occupier, which you are, according to the decision of GA OON.
                  1. Dear sofa expert. 2 February 2021 15: 48
                    +4
                    All ahead.

                    This is good ... so Russia has a future. Which, unfortunately, I cannot say about your country.
                    No ... and you're not quite finished yet. You have not yet given everything that does not belong to you.
                    All the primordially Russian lands must return to Russia, and, accordingly, the Polish lands must return to Poland, the Hungarian lands must return to Hungary, etc.
                    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 16: 20
                      -6
                      So far, neither Poland nor Hungary have expressed any territorial claims. And what different marginals say there, so your court jester also won the right to the Indian Ocean. The territory on which Russia is now located, of course, will not go anywhere, but your empire will not eternal, and when he glues the flippers, you will have huge problems. At best, pupate and you will have a "Day of the Oprichnik" in its purest form. Although you hardly know what I mean, you don't take such an anti-frustrating abomination in your hands ...
                    2. Dear sofa expert. 2 February 2021 17: 01
                      +2
                      So far, neither Poland nor Hungary have expressed any territorial claims. And what the various marginals say there, so your court jester also declared the right to the Indian Ocean.

                      So you still distract me from work)
                      I no longer want to debate on this topic. I do not see the subject of dispute for myself.
                      I want to tell you something else ..
                      You are, in fact, lavishing real curses here:

                      you have not tried real sanctions, but they will still be inevitable ...
                      your ampirator is not eternal, and when it glues the flippers, you will have huge problems. At best, pupate and you will have a "Day of the Oprichnik" in its purest form ..

                      And so on.

                      Directly some kind of hatred, fierce.

                      Aren't you afraid that this will come back to you personally?
                      After all, the one who curses all this negative always returns, and even in a multiple size. And the "damage" from curses falls not only on the cursing one, but also on his loved ones.
                      Family, children, parents.
                      Are you dearer than your stupid, acrimonious statements about “you don’t know who?
                      Pay attention, here I have never said anything like that or wished you. And I don't want to, if that.
                      God is your judge.
                    3. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 11: 23
                      -6
                      And, that is, I had to move down to the immorality of my statements? Regarding the fact that no one has official territorial claims to Ukraine, no one will argue?
                    4. Dear sofa expert. 3 February 2021 12: 05
                      +2
                      And, that is, I had to move down to the immorality of my statements?

                      No, no, I didn't go anywhere. I just drew your attention to this. Do whatever you want with it.

                      no one has to argue with official territorial claims?

                      No, of course, I won't argue. Why should I? I didn’t speak about formality.
                      These are my personal conclusions, based on my, personal, analysis, based on the indications I have observed.
                2. boriz Offline boriz
                  boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 44
                  +4
                  Poland expresses its claims to Ukraine covertly. Forgotten the trailer, with the map of Lviv as part of Poland?
                  And Hungary will not make any direct claims. Simply, when it becomes possible, together with Poland, they will bring in troops.
                3. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                  Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 11: 29
                  -8
                  "Disguised" is nothing more than blah blah. There are no official complaints, which means there is no subject of conversation. Parliamentary chatterboxes carry a lot of things, your tsar jester has already washed his boots in the Indian Ocean, and took Alaska away, but no one takes him seriously, only make fun of him. And about the introduction of troops with the same reason, one can say that, for example, Germany will send troops to take Konigsberg when it becomes possible. Well, or China, they have Chinese Siberia on their maps.
                4. Dear sofa expert. 3 February 2021 13: 07
                  +3
                  "Disguised" is nothing more than blah blah ...
                  Parliamentary talkers carry a lot ...

                  Well then, this is your homebrew blah blah, your "parliamentary talkers")

                  The Poles want to return their homes in Western Ukraine through court.
                  Ukrainian courts are preparing to fill up claims for the return of property ...

                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.strana.ua/articles/analysis/2363-polyaki-pretenduyut-na-doma-na-zapadnoj-ukraine.html?espv=1

                  You will not mind that it is yours, the Ukrainian media will be hysterical?)
                5. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                  Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 18: 27
                  -8
                  Any media like to be hysterical for all sorts of reasons, your media outlets will be hysterical about the "western threat." , to the point ...
                6. Dear sofa expert. 3 February 2021 21: 06
                  +5
                  And they have been talking about the "flood of claims" for a year now, and so far no claims have been seen. Well, if they want, finally, let them serve, they also serve a lot of things against you, to no avail ...

                  But the Poles will take their land from you. And do not even peep. You now fawning before the West until the end of your days, otherwise, God forbid, "visa-free" will be taken back, and your dream of "a pack of cookies, a jar of jam, and lace panties" will end)
                7. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                  Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 5 February 2021 20: 45
                  -2
                  Dream on like the Poles will take something from us, who doesn't.
                8. Dear sofa expert. 5 February 2021 20: 49
                  +2
                  Dream on like the Poles will take something from us, who doesn't.

                  Yes, I don't care, let them take away, Why do you need territory? Anyway, soon scatter "across Europe": ruin.
        3. Dear sofa expert. 3 February 2021 14: 23
          +3
          nothing more than blah blah.

          They objected:

          And Hungary will not make any direct claims. Simply, when it becomes possible, together with Poland, they will bring in troops.

          In my opinion, a completely viable version. So the Hungarians have already begun to crush you with "soft power":

          Despite the large-scale scandal, Hungary is still solemnly distributing passports to the Transcarpathian Ukrainians

          https://www.google.com/amp/s/tsn.ua/ru/amp/ukrayina/nesmotrya-na-masshtabnyy-skandal-vengriya-vse-esche-torzhestvenno-razdaet-pasporta-zakarpatskim-ukraincam-1234017.html?espv=1

          And pay attention, this is written again by your Ukrainian media.

          Do you still trust them?)
        4. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
          Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 18: 28
          -7
          Yes, let them distribute, to health. Whoever wants, let him go to Hungary. And your version is as viable as the fact that NATO will send troops to Kaliningrad, no more.
        5. Dear sofa expert. 3 February 2021 21: 02
          +4
          Yes, let them distribute it, to health. Whoever wants, let him go to Hungary.

          So they will take their land with them. How else? This is the land of their ancestors.
        6. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
          Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 5 February 2021 20: 46
          -2
          Unfortunately, nothing will work out with land, because again Hungary does not make any territorial claims.
        7. Dear sofa expert. 5 February 2021 20: 51
          +2
          Unfortunately, nothing will work out with land, because again Hungary does not make any territorial claims.

          And they will create Novovengria there themselves, at home.
          You can declare ATO there too.)
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  8. NN Offline NN
    NN (Nikolay Dolgov) 4 February 2021 11: 25
    +2
    Map with Chinese Siberia in the studio, strong. Otherwise it is, as you have, "blah-blah-blah."
  • boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 45
    +4
    ... except you yourself, Crimea does not consider yours, ...

    And we ourselves are enough.
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 18: 31
      -7
      Yes, it is clear, you only benefit from the sanctions. So why then hysteria about their "illegality"? On the contrary, you need to say thank you. Although there were no real sanctions yet, everything is ahead.
  • NN Offline NN
    NN (Nikolay Dolgov) 4 February 2021 11: 21
    +1
    Let me dream, only three minutes, only three

    - it's about your "everything is ahead" and "you will not go anywhere". Not a respected chubato-sharovarny, for someone, but not for you for sure here rassusolit about "agricultural ditch and even drinking water" something there, and even about "according to all international laws" ... you and to remind your compatriots so "simple as three kopecks" about the hostile actions of this territory of yours "Ukraine" in relation to the population of the Russian (just like that, Russian, with a capital!) Peninsula of Crimea, which certainly fall under the definition of "international terrorism"? I think no, don’t. For I'm sure you know. From what side are you "legitimate owners" and how long have you become like that (your greasy snouts won't crack there, no?), I'm embarrassed to ask. You have already answered for Sevastopol. Answer for Odessa, and all other Russian cities and regions that came to this territory of yours solely due to political misunderstanding. And the last thing. About "everything is ahead". This is definitely not about you - another three or a maximum, five years, and this "Ukraine" of yours will become a toxic territory that is not interesting to anyone, unless, of course, neighbors disassemble it for parts during this time. Incidentally, this misunderstanding of yours is gradually disappearing from the international agenda.
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    2. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 8 February 2021 11: 12
      -2
      Yeah, for the seventh year we have been freezing and starving to death, but still nothing. And when you start Odessa, you yourself will go there and ask who is dreaming of a "Russian world"
  • Restless Sagittarius (Vladimir) 5 February 2021 19: 09
    +2
    Rather, your non-state will return Odessa to Russia, than the Russian Federation will return Crimea to Bandera Hamlu
  • Binder Online Binder
    Binder (Miron) 2 February 2021 04: 48
    -5
    Quote: Anatoly Babug
    "Day of the Oprichnik" and "Sugar Kremlin" are just around the corner.

    "The day of the oprichnik has already come" but these gentlemen have not read Sorokin ...
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 16: 21
      -4
      Yes, most likely. He, bastard, jokes over the braces. Although maybe they have not heard of Sorokin ...
  • Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 09: 01
    +3
    Actually, today it is the Kremlin that is brandishing its new wunderwafles.

    He brandishes them after NATO moved its borders to Russia and the United States withdrew from the INF Treaty. This is a defensive measure.
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 14: 44
      -6
      Independent countries have the right to join wherever they want, and the United States left the DRMSD in response to a Russian scam.
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 15: 42
        +3
        The fact of "Russian fraud" has not been proven by anyone except the United States, which itself is caught in a swab with a test tube in its aggression against Iraq.
        1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
          Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 16: 25
          -6
          It has been proven to be poked in the nose - the very new missile that violates the INF Treaty, but the Kremlin will be told the dew of God.
      2. Dear sofa expert. 2 February 2021 17: 13
        +4
        Independent countries have the right to join wherever they want, and the United States left the DRMSD in response to a Russian scam.

        It was a scam to get Russia to destroy the SMD missiles and stop work on their creation, and to work on these missiles ourselves further, and create them, under the cover of a "sea carrier", knowing full well that these same missiles could then be used from ground-based Launchers, which are, among other things, the notorious missile defense missile systems deployed by the Americans in the countries of Eastern Europe.

        This is a scam.
        1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
          Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 18: 34
          -6
          As for the launchers, which supposedly can be used with surface-to-surface missiles, this is just a Russian assumption, which has not been proven by anyone. But the very Russian missile that violates the DRMSD is a proven fact.
          1. Dear sofa expert. 5 February 2021 22: 05
            +2
            As for the launchers that can allegedly be used with surface-to-surface missiles, this is just a Russian assumption,

            Aren't you tired of surprising everyone with your stupidity?

            With launchers "Mark 41" - Mk 41 Vertical Launching System (which are in Poland), you can also shoot "Tomahawks". Here is the complete “assortment” for these PUs:

            Edit

            Standard missile 2
            Standard missile 3
            Standard missile 6
            RIM-7 Sea Sparrow
            RIM-162 ESSM (4 Stück pro Zelle)
            RGM-109 Tomahawk
            RUM-139 VL-ASROC
            Lrasm

            https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_41_Vertical_Launching_System
  • boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 00: 01
    +3
    It's just that after 2014 and everything that happened then they are very afraid, so they conduct all these exercises.

    And Russia is very much afraid after Yugoslavia and Kosovo, after breaking promises on NATO non-expansion, after Iraq, Libya, Tunisia, Syria. By the way, Crimea is just a consequence of fears about NATO expansion.

    And the fact that Russia's western neighbors are members of NATO, and not the CSTO, then, as they say, they have the right to invite those they want to visit and be where they want.

    And no one asks them, their number is 16. The agreements were concluded between the NATO countries and the Russian Federation. The NATO countries decided to violate the agreement. Macron said this in plain text. And no one is interested in the opinion of some Czech Republic, Poland or (God forgive me) Latvia. These are not subjects of world politics, but its objects. No matter how they puff out their cheeks.
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 18: 38
      -5
      There were no official and signed agreements, and this is a well-known fact. And as for Yugoslavia, its whole tragedy lies in the fact that Tito did not find a worthy successor and the oak-headed national communist Milosevic came to power, who behaved like an elephant in a china shop with all the consequences . Under Tito, Yugoslavia flourished and had excellent relations with the West.
  • boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 50
    +3
    And it never occurs to any of these alarmists that the West absolutely does not need to attack Russia. Well, in fact, why?

    Our history tells us very clearly that the West will attack us as soon as possible. Our task is not to provide such an opportunity.
    What for? For freebies.
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 18: 41
      -4
      What a freebie? In the West, politicians are not at all foolish, they are well aware that in the event of a conflict, there will be millions of victims, not to mention trillions of costs for the war. They get from Russia and absolutely everything they need for a reasonable price.
  • Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
    Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 8 February 2021 06: 55
    +1
    All right good
    And immediately they threw minuses, they do not like reasonable arguments.
  • Cat Offline Cat
    Cat (Sergei) 1 February 2021 19: 01
    +2
    We must return to the practice of nuclear bombs, which were, as if, during the Soviet era, installed on the border with China. And now, along the state border of the Russian Federation, where the neighbors are, are beginning to "dream" of their primordial lands, to carry out "hidden" mining ... Well, so that their intelligence is detected ... laughing
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 1 February 2021 19: 40
      -4
      And who exactly is dreaming from bordering countries? Poland, China, Mongolia, North Korea? It seems that there are no more land borders. Or with the former republics? Do they also dream?
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 26
        +2
        Estonia is definitely dreaming. And he constantly talks about it. And Latvia. And Ukraine periodically talks about the Kuban. Not to mention the Crimea. In China, children are taught using maps, where our territories in the Far East and in Siberia are Chinese. Japan wants the Kuril Islands. Poland, Germany and Lithuania want Kaliningrad.
        Generally:

        You must be strong, otherwise why should you be!

        (C)
        1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
          Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 18: 46
          -5
          Is Estonia going to attack Russia and Latvia too? :))) And also Ukraine? Well, with Ukraine so far everything is exactly the opposite, it is not Ukraine that chopped off part of the territory of Russia and it does not support the war and separatists in the Donbass. And as for China, these are your friends, how is that? that Poland and Germany once declared claims to Kaliningrad?
    2. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
      Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 2 February 2021 00: 08
      0
      in fact, nuclear wells were installed in Z. Europe to curb the advance of the tank armada of the USSR
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 1 February 2021 19: 46
    -4
    Quote: Cat
    We must return to the practice of nuclear bombs, which were, as if, during the Soviet era, installed on the border with China. And now, along the state border of the Russian Federation, where the neighbors are, are beginning to "dream" of their primordial lands, to carry out "hidden" mining ... Well, so that their intelligence is detected ... laughing

    Didn't you confuse anything? So far, everything is exactly the opposite. Even with its allies, Russia allows doubts about the correctness of the borders.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 39
      +2
      When allies stop being allies ...
  • Morgan Offline Morgan
    Morgan (Miron) 1 February 2021 21: 51
    -1
    Interestingly, the US knows that they want to attack Kaliningrad? I ought to tell them about it. As it is not beautiful it turns out here they are getting ready to meet, and they are not dreaming about it or spirit.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 08: 59
      +1
      Quote: Morgan
      Interestingly, the US knows that they want to attack Kaliningrad? I ought to tell them about it. As it is not beautiful it turns out here they are getting ready to meet, and they are not dreaming about it or spirit.

      Judging by the maps of their exercises near Kaliningrad, they know. wink
      1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
        Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 14: 46
        -5
        So they are actually just afraid of Russia, and therefore they are conducting exercises in that area.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 15: 42
          +2
          And what exactly is Kaliningrad dangerous for them? Not tired of writing garbage yourself?
          1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
            Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 16: 27
            -5
            Why bullshit, everyone remembers 2014, the annexation of Crimea and the unleashed war in Donbass, and that's why they are afraid.
        2. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 37
          +3
          And Russia simply fears NATO after Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Tunisia, Syria, Afghanistan, the spread of NATO to the east, in violation of the agreements ...
          1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
            Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 3 February 2021 18: 49
            -4
            Can you give a link to such officially concluded and signed agreements?
  • Semyon Semyonov_2 (Semyon Semyonov) 1 February 2021 22: 04
    0
    )))))))))))))))))))))))
    Yeah, let them dream, you fools.
  • eco3 Offline eco3
    eco3 (erwin vercauteren) 1 February 2021 22: 49
    0
    American arrogance and their old skeletons that lead the nation behind the scenes are so divorced from reality and the religion of their exclusivity and values ​​made the USA into a real criminal empire of psychopaths, sadists and extremely cruel, especially towards weaker nations, just like the Zionists in Israel, their bot does it government sponsors of terrorism and crimes against humanity may someday need to drop a nuclear bomb on these sick dogs because a mad dog is being euthanized, in which case I think the same thing as a dying limb with gangrene needs to be amputated
  • Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 2 February 2021 00: 05
    +1
    I think that the Chinese are more likely to take the East East than the Yapas of the Kuril Islands. The Americans need the Russian Federation as a significant partner (at least neutral) for the confrontation with China, and they will eventually persuade Russia to do this. Therefore, they will not give give the Japanese the go-ahead, then they will not attack the Kuril Islands of their own accord. The Russian Federation, as such, has no choice: either China or the United States. They would rather agree with the Americans than with the Chinese. It is clear that being over the clash of these two hyperpowers would be the best scenario, but it is unlikely to succeed. Both forces will incline the Russian Federation in their direction, but I think that the Russian empire with the growing empire of China will be much more difficult to divide the zones of expansion, influence, etc., and therefore there will be points at they collide in certain parts of the world.
  • Restless Sagittarius (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 02: 59
    +5
    Today, the United States, in fact, installs numerous tactical nuclear warheads on its strategic missiles. A nuclear strike against the Russian Federation, even with tactical nuclear weapons, will result in a full-scale response by the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation against the United States, with Putin, or with whoever will be put in his place, if he gets cold feet. Lowering the flag, as the USSR did, is not only stupidity, but also high treason. Having lowered the flag of the USSR, it lost tens of millions of its citizens who died from poverty and conflicts on ethnic grounds. So it is not worth repeating the mistakes of the USSR. If the Yankees do not leave the Russian Federation with a choice, JSA must be destroyed with a full-scale nuclear strike, otherwise what remains to be finished off with warheads of a volumetric explosion and other types of weapons of mass destruction.
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 14: 47
      -4
      And if, in response, it flies across the whole muzzle, you will screech "And what for us?"
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 30
        +2
        “And for what?”

        This is from your repertoire. We do not pretend to be someone else's.
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      2. Restless Sagittarius (Vladimir) 5 February 2021 18: 54
        +3
        If the Russian Federation lowers the flag, like the USSR, then only the Russian Federation and the Russian Federation will arrive, as the USSR will lose tens of millions of its citizens from hunger, lack of medicine and civil strife. If the Russian Federation zhahnat the United States with its nuclear warheads, not only the Russian Federation, but also the Yankees will arrive and arrive so that Pearl Harbor and Vietnam seem to them a slight fright. If the Yankees are sure that the Russian Federation is not weak to press the button on the launch of its missiles, then the Yankees will become impudent, as they will be careful today ... Well, if not, we will hit the insolent American face ...
  • Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 09: 04
    0
    Oh! did the Japanese set their sights on Kaliningrad?

    Where is it written in the text? Highlight, please.
  • Nicholai Ivanitsky (Nicholai Ivanitsky) 2 February 2021 09: 52
    +2
    The topic is disclosed. I have lived in the USA for five years. The question of what they call the Russian Enclave is constantly raised not only in specialized publications. I would say that it already exists at a certain level of public consciousness (say, at the level of secondary school history teachers; many of them will clumsily pronounce "Suwalki"). The efforts of the Jewish-controlled media have not been in vain. I believe that the issue is the same in Europe.
    I have not seen any official documents of our Defense Ministry for the defense of Kaliningrad. But the use of TNW is most likely being considered.
    Do not forget that the railway blockade by Lithuania will practically put us in front of the need to act.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 2 February 2021 09: 58
    -1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    We don't know, but we know ...
    It is difficult to say what considerations the author is guided by, claiming that he knows what conclusions American analysts are coming to. Apparently they (analysts) report to him. And in general, are analysts like British scientists?

    Well, what kind of self-contradicting nonsense are you writing ...

    Already in the title you have delirium! You can't write notes by juggling and juggling facts! Yes, any exercise has operational plans that imply various scenarios for the development of events - escalation of the conflict, localization, attenuation, the use of certain types of weapons, etc. For specific exercises, a SPECIFIC scenario is taken and it is dictated not at all by what analysts believe, but by the goals that are set for specific units for training purposes. Otherwise, any global teachings do not make sense, because any analyst will say that nuclear weapons will be used in a global conflict. Soldier training script and developmental analysis are two big (or four small) differences. And there is no need to substitute operational plans / training scenarios for the conclusions of analysts - they have a different approach and different goals!
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 15: 44
      0
      Quote: AlexZN
      Already in the title you have delirium! You can't write notes by juggling and juggling facts!

      The trick is that it is you who write any liberal nonsense in your comments, juggling and manipulating facts.
    2. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 32
      +2
      I wonder if the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Russian Aerospace Forces will conduct exercises around Israel, how will you sing?
      It's just a question.
  • Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 2 February 2021 10: 56
    +3
    Why the US does not believe that Russia is ready for a nuclear war over Kaliningrad

    Because this province is small and its capture is possible by conventional forces without the use of nuclear weapons or with the use of low-power tactical - artillery and other shells with a nuclear warhead.
    It will be difficult to defend this enclave by conventional means due to the limited forces and assets deployed there and the blockade of supply routes, and the Russian Federation will not dare to unleash a full-scale nuclear war, being drawn into long and useless diplomatic altercations
  • Tektor Offline Tektor
    Tektor (Tektor) 2 February 2021 11: 24
    0
    And I absolutely do not rule out that at the first hints of NATO aggression against the Kaliningrad region, Brussels will be the first to burn in a nuclear fire. And then we will see if there will be attempts to continue the aggression.
  • Ryzzard ewiak Offline Ryzzard ewiak
    Ryzzard ewiak (Ryszard Ewiak) 2 February 2021 15: 19
    0
    God warns us: “And another horse came out, fiery red, and the rider sitting on it was allowed to take peace from the earth so that people would kill each other. And a great sword was given to him ”(Revelation 6: 4). This time we face a world war not only in name. The world will be taken from the earth and the "great sword" will be used. Jesus described him as follows: “Things that are terrifying and extraordinary [associated with unusual phenomena] from heaven [from the air] will be mighty” (Luke 21:11).
  • Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 15: 45
    0
    Quote: Jacques Sekavar
    It will be difficult to defend this enclave by conventional means due to the limited forces and assets deployed there and the blockade of supply routes, and the Russian Federation will not dare to unleash a full-scale nuclear war, being drawn into long and useless diplomatic altercations

    I am little by little afraid of something like that ...
  • Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 2 February 2021 16: 31
    +1
    What will C say about this?
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 34
      +2
      Expresses deep concern.
  • Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 18: 48
    -3
    Everyone who has it is ready for nuclear weapons. But there is NO fool to use it.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 3 February 2021 01: 33
      +2
      Everyone who has it is ready for nuclear weapons. But there is NO fool to use it.

      Well, in 1945. were found.
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 3 February 2021 09: 23
        -4
        Quote: boriz
        Well, in 1945. were found.

        If this is the United States, then consider their losses in VM2 and then we can continue on the conclusions, who, can you? ))) Success to you.
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 4 February 2021 20: 55
          +2
          If this is the United States, then consider their losses in VM2 and then we can continue on the conclusions, who, can you? ))) Success to you.

          Do you yourself understand what you wrote?
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 4 February 2021 21: 03
            -4
            Quote: boriz
            If this is the United States, then consider their losses in VM2 and then we can continue on the conclusions, who, can you? ))) Success to you.

            Do you yourself understand what you wrote?

            Well, then someone and it seems like it was you hinted that the United States is fools.
            1. boriz Offline boriz
              boriz (boriz) 4 February 2021 22: 22
              +2
              You wrote about fools. I wrote about the use of nuclear weapons in 1945.
              1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                Vladest (Vladimir) 5 February 2021 08: 58
                -2
                Quote: boriz
                You wrote about fools. I wrote about the use of nuclear weapons in 1945.

                And that was correct, and I even explained why. Let me explain from the other side to protect the life of the enemy at the expense of sacrificing the lives of their soldiers is obvious stupidity.
                There is such a nuance in Japan, if not strangely the United States idolizes. American culture is held in high esteem.
                Or is Germany not a US ally now?
                Or why, as soon as the USSR collapsed from it, and then everyone wanted to run away from the Russian Federation?
                It seems that countries can instill love for themselves in different ways. Here many questions arise about the fool and stupidity.
  • Sasha Polyakov Offline Sasha Polyakov
    Sasha Polyakov (Sasha Polyakov) 3 February 2021 21: 36
    -1
    Well, what stupid person do you think would go to fight in Europe? And let the United Rastas howl themselves
  • Polycarp Sharikov (Polycarp Sharikov) 5 February 2021 08: 15
    0
    what are you talking about? what nuclear strike? About whom ? for your children and dough? they have everything there!
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  • Kade_t Offline Kade_t
    Kade_t (Igor) 5 February 2021 10: 16
    0
    Everything is not difficult here, if NATO decides to attack Kaliningrad, it will be sudden, unless our intelligence knows about it in advance. In case of a successful option for them, they will be able to hit 30-40 percent of our military potential in Kaliningrad, and if this happens, then we will not fight NATO with conventional weapons, we will not be able to pull it off. Almost immediately, all the main airfields, places of accumulation of equipment and invasion forces, warehouses and command posts will be destroyed by our tactical nuclear weapons. And this is where everything will end, because they will understand everything that further, if they do not stop, everyone will die. Europe in general from the horror of what is happening will scream so that, in Washington, they will definitely hear, especially when ordinary people on both continents reach out with their belongings in search of cellars and sewers.
    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
      Vladest (Vladimir) 5 February 2021 10: 33
      -2
      Quote: Kade_t
      Everything is not difficult here if NATO decides to attack Kaliningrad

      Can you explain to me why attack at all, about the benefits of this? I will explain later why this does not make any sense.
  • Alexander Borzyaev (Alexander Borzyaev) 5 February 2021 13: 49
    +1
    And why does the US think that Kaliningrad is only interested in RUSSIA? And RUSSIA is ready to fight only for it? Why did the US decide that for the rest of RUSSIA a response to them from RUSSIA will not arrive? Are they naive or stupid?
  • Kedrovich Offline Kedrovich
    Kedrovich (Alexa980) 5 February 2021 19: 58
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    I don’t understand one thing, how do they do their calculations? They think that they will be going to strike, and the Russian Federation will sit and watch? In five minutes you can't put together a fist to strike, tea is not a computer game. Intelligence prochuhaet everything a hundred times. And all forces will be ready to repel the attack. And from the mainland they will pull themselves up straight through the Baltic states.
  • Yuri Lavrichenko 6 February 2021 12: 49
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    They come from their own experience, but it is based on the imperfection of the paramilitary component, remember Korea. On the contrary, Putin spent 18 years on perfection, sacrificing economic issues. He constantly expected the West to attack Russia, they did not hide it much, but they played like a cat and a mouse. However, the late mouse turned into a tiger, and this is another level for the cat.