After the collapse of the USSR, Russians stopped loving the Baltics


Over the past 30 years since the collapse of the USSR, the attitude of Russians towards the Baltic States, and in particular, towards Lithuania, has become much more negative, according to a new article on the website of the Lithuanian National Radio and Television. In the publication, some confusion is noticeable that the citizens of the Russian Federation no longer admire the Baltic countries, as they did in the Soviet period, but, on the contrary, are extremely hostile to their northwestern neighbors.


It is reported that over the past two decades, the perception of the Baltics in Russia has changed towards negative. So, back in 2000, 47% of the respondents of the sociological center "Levada" considered the Baltic countries "mostly good", and 26% "mostly bad". However, in 2006, only 35% considered the aforementioned states “generally good”, and 37% - “mostly bad”. In particular, Lithuania was considered more hostile towards Russia in 2020 compared to the 2013 polls. Also, the article indicates that the Baltic states are not at all interested in the inhabitants of the Asian part of Russia.

Experts interviewed by the Lithuanian media note that in 1991 a different Russia took to the streets than the one that is today. Now she is more conservative, her mood, ideas and emotions are very different from those that raged in the demonstrations earlier, thirty years ago.

It is argued that Russian society has changed a lot, and such massive participation in the protest action is now unthinkable. The opinion is given that "the majority of people [in Russia] today live in an atmosphere of complete cynicism, disunity," and the Russian society itself has changed dramatically after the collapse of the USSR. People no longer want revolutions for fear that it will hit their current situation, the article says.

The very fact of amazement on the part of the Lithuanian media by the change in the attitude of Russians towards their country is noteworthy. For thirty years, two post-Soviet generations have entered their active age - millennials and zoomers. These are people with fundamentally different experience and knowledge, as well as value systems, than those of older generations.

If for the Soviet people the Baltic was a sacred "almost abroad", then for modern generations it is the poorest and most peripheral part of a united Europe, where there is nothing to learn and nothing to look at. The romantic image of "Soviet Europeans" faded before the availability of the present West. The entry of the "Baltic tigers" into NATO made its contribution. Thus, the change is not surprising.

It is noteworthy that the deterioration of relations began under President Boris Yeltsin, who in April 1998 instructed the government to "diversify the directions of Russian oil export abroad" in order to punish Latvia for the oppression of the Russian-speaking population.
  • Photos used: Ministry of Defense of Lithuania
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  1. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 31 January 2021 10: 03
    +9
    The Baltic version of the Ukrainian - and what for us?

    It is argued that Russian society has changed a lot, and such massive participation in the protest action is now unthinkable. The opinion is given that "the majority of people [in Russia] today live in an atmosphere of complete cynicism, disunity," and the Russian society itself has changed dramatically after the collapse of the USSR. People no longer want revolutions for fear that it will hit their current situation, the article says.

    An example of universal propaganda. We change Russia to Lithuania and vice versa. And try to argue something, like the facts on the face and the conclusions are appropriate.

    It is claimed that Lithuanian society has changed a lot, and such a massive participation in a protest is now unthinkable. The opinion is given that “the majority of people [in Lithuania] today live in an atmosphere of complete cynicism, disunity ", and Lithuanian society changed dramatically after the collapse of the USSR. People no longer want revolutions for fear that it will hit their current situation, the article says.
  2. maiman61 Offline maiman61
    maiman61 (Yuri) 31 January 2021 10: 06
    +14
    Stop distorting the Russian language! You need to write correctly! After the collapse of the USSR, the Baltic countries became Russophobic countries, turning into US puppets. This will be the only true!
  3. Miffer Offline Miffer
    Miffer (Sam Miffers) 31 January 2021 10: 10
    +4
    I have been in these "Baltic tigers" back in the USSR.
    Lithuania - bright green lawns with yellow dandelions. Latvia, Estonia - the landscape is the same. Granite boulders are scattered everywhere from the Ice Age.
    Riga - Dome Cathedral with organ + Blumen-Strasse, where "Seventeen Moments of Spring" was filmed with Prof. Pleischner-Evstigneev. The sea is very cold even in summer. Tallinn - primitive Gothic elements + Soviet-style houses from the fifties and sixties of the last century.
    There is really nothing to watch and do.

    For thirty years, two post-Soviet generations have entered their active age - millennials and zoomers.

    In sociology, it is believed that generations change every 25 years. In my opinion, it would be more correct to divide into "Soviet" and post-Soviet, that is, approximately up to 43-45 and older than 43-45.
  4. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 31 January 2021 11: 13
    +2
    I now know one thing, that the Baltics is an open enemy of Russia! Most Russians understand this too. And you shouldn't feel sorry for your enemies And we must do and do so that they themselves die.
    1. Oleg Osadchiy Offline Oleg Osadchiy
      Oleg Osadchiy (Oleg Osadchiy) 31 January 2021 12: 34
      +3
      I agree, let "yourself ......." ammunition to spend on this shlaepen sorry.
      1. Pete mitchell Offline Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell (Pete Mitchell) 31 January 2021 23: 51
        0
        Everything always ends, and patience and cartridges ... that's especially insulting for cartridges ...
        It is regrettable that the Russian Federation did not have, and does not have, a clearly formulated policy towards the Baltic States, and it must be beaten backhand ...
        1. Miffer Offline Miffer
          Miffer (Sam Miffers) 1 February 2021 06: 54
          +1
          ... the Russian Federation did not and does not have a clearly formulated policy towards the Baltic states ...

          Which region can boast of having a clearly expressed policy towards it? Donbass? Transnistria?
          In my opinion, over the past 20-25 years Russia itself has not really understood what it is? where from? where and how is it going? if so, why go? Almost everywhere - a belated response and, in extreme cases, the Special Operations Forces.
          1. Pete mitchell Offline Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell (Pete Mitchell) 1 February 2021 09: 14
            0
            And this is not right, it's time to decide
  5. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 31 January 2021 11: 31
    +9
    Over the past 30 years since the collapse of the USSR, the attitude of Russians towards the Baltics, and in particular towards Lithuania, has become much more negative.

    Well, how amazing! People are 30 years old without a break in the face spit, and they, you know, offended!
    In fact, the farmers, back in the 30s of the last century, were not able to arrange a toilet in the yard and shit under the nearest bushes, having received in 1918. independence, have caught a megalomania. They sincerely believed that everything done on their land by the Germans and Russians was done by themselves. And they were filled with a sense of tremendous superiority (it is not clear on what basis). We regularly see this here in the comments.
    Despite the fact that now their situation strongly resembles that notorious frog, which is very slowly boiled in a boiler. So it will croak about its own greatness, until it finally bends.
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 31 January 2021 14: 44
      -12%
      As for the last paragraph, this is exactly about Russia.
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 31 January 2021 19: 21
        +4
        What, Baltic states, really hurts your eyes ??? Get used to it, or else it will be!
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 31 January 2021 20: 14
          +4
          This is a crest. He boiled, and that's disguised as the Baltic states. In fact, more than half of the population was washed away from them in 28 years ...
          1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
            Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 1 February 2021 08: 40
            -4
            In fact, I do not disguise myself as anyone, and in my profile I indicated where I came from. Yes, and nothing boiled, but just very accurately in that paragraph about Russia it turned out.
            1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
              A.Lex (Secret information) 1 February 2021 23: 21
              +2
              laughing That's right, Tolya, smart girl! There is no need to disguise! Show all your vile essence of a Russophobe and anti-Soviet! All of you there are smeared with one world. You only Russia has collapsed into ndtsat small principalities. DO NOT WAIT, bastards ... You still go to war with us (as you threaten). Then we will arrange for you to laugh - TO DEATH! Let's remember everything - and how the country was ruined in the early 90s, and how YOU lay down under the Yankees (and never got out of their bed), and watched themselves - as if to claim a piece from Russia. What yenga you from the Yankees do not require loot and everything else for the maintenance? Buy gas from them, that you whine that Russia ALWAYS owes you something? You bastards sat on the neck of Russia with almost ALL CONSCIOUS HISTORY, dangling your legs and demanding something-there-yes-more! And here, blah fly, in the Urals, in stores, sweets were brought in on BIG holidays (I'm not talking about melted caramel sticking together without wrappers) and ice cream TWO TIMES A WEEK (I just remember that time). There was no meat in the stores (praise the Lord, the collective farmers even sold at the agricultural market), so that the children had to be dressed for school, they had to go to the regional center (THERE WAS NOTHING WAY IN THE DISTRICT CENTER) - only there the uniform could be taken IN SEPTEMBER (when the school was already full). It was not possible to buy a car, a motorcycle, or a TV with a refrigerator (only in millionaire collective farms, collective farmers signed up for many years to come ... and bought it on a pension). To go to the sea - wherever there! No vouchers, all vacation to the top of the ass in the gardens - so that even in the winter there was something to eat. ..........
              I know how YOU lived there in the Baltics and the Ukraine: I drove by myself (when my father was a military man), and my wife told me (her relatives lived there - in the Ukrainian SSR). And how you hated RUSSIAN RELATIVES, who came to visit you, ONLY !!!
              And now - YOU SEPARATED-SO !!! WHERE IS YOUR VOLGOTNAYA LIFE (as in the USSR) ??? Where are your factories and factories with shipyards? Where am I asking you? After all, you BUILD them ALL UNION !!! And you? YOU'RE EVERYTHING ABOUT ... EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!!! And for what ??? For the sake of yelling now - RUSSIA, give ???
              Well, here you are - THREE-FINGER FIGURE !!!!!!!!!!!!
              Go to those to whom you have been striving for all these years (including the time of the USSR) - to the west. Let them now support you. We already see today how they contain you - they ripped you off as sticky, like the last suckers, and your fellow citizens-oligarchs also help them - RIP YOU!
              Bon voyage, relatives! Do not remember it dashingly, gayropeans.
              1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 1 February 2021 23: 43
                -4
                Oh, how many letters A.B. The post was actually about the fact that someone constantly croaks about their own influence, so they are definitely not Ukrainians and as far as I know, they are not Balts. And as for the happy journey, we never seem to come to you in the taiga union and did not ask for it. You yourself climb to us "Russian-speaking" to protect them. Well, judging by your zomboyaschik discriminate how much in vain :))) But the Russian-speaking themselves do not want something in your "Russian world", they are quite it was enough to see what your Naimans did to Donbass. Yes, and some kind of Nazism we have is strange - no ethnic cleansing and even a ban on professions, you walk along the Dnieper - there is Russian speech around and the SBU is missing. Not if someone is on the city will run around with the Russian flag and shout about the "Russian world", it will, of course, have troubles, well, after the Crimea and your arts in Donbass, you can understand us. Just leave us alone, return the stolen goods, remove your "vacationers" from Donbass , and the local drunkard will run away by itself, and you are 100 years old for us without the need. We did not ask and will not ask us to laugh. And stop crowing about the "brotherly people", after 2014 there are no more brothers. Take as your brothers whoever you want, even the Juche people, even the Chinese, it makes no difference to us.
                1. boriz Offline boriz
                  boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 00: 49
                  +2
                  But the Russian-speakers themselves do not want something in your "Russian world"

                  But I know better whether they want it or not. We have plenty of them.
                  And in your country, according to estimates for the production of flour (by the way, it is quite common, the UN is used and made by your Union of millers) physically there are 23 million people left. This is after 52 million. in 1993.
                  And we watch your channels. So, you don’t have to do it.
                  1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                    Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 01: 23
                    -4
                    Yes, write already 13 or even 3 million, why should they feel sorry for the adversaries :)))
                    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 01: 24
                      -4
                      I don’t know why you know better. At least in the Dnieper, I didn’t seem to meet anyone willing to join the Russkiy Mir.
                2. boriz Offline boriz
                  boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 01: 01
                  +2
                  Take as your brothers whoever you want

                  That's for sure. "We will never be brothers" (C). Just like you.
                3. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                  A.Lex (Secret information) 9 February 2021 09: 52
                  +1
                  Well, here you are! Tie the gas pipe in a knot and close the border with Russia.
                  I don't need to tell you about discrimination - IS THE LANGUAGE LAW ADOPTED? Yes! Nazis with torchlight processions on Bandera day marching? YES! Are the prisons full of political prisoners? Again - YES! You were given those detained from Donbass, and you? You cannot even accept them normally! You keep driving around the country ... how wrong they were returned to you! And they returned it just like that - without conditions. And who did YOU return? The answer is NO ONE!
                  And yes - close the borders (i.e. stop trading with us). One of your main trading partners is STILL Russia (Europe - after us) ... Regarding the protection of Russians. Whom we want, we defend. This is our business. and it is not for you to tell us - you are nobody and call you in any way (the slaves are not asked for an opinion ... but the fact that you are Yankee slaves is a fact). Your job is to poke the Yankees (you are very good at it). Even your own representatives of the authorities, elites say that YOU ARE A COLONY!
                  Forget about Crimea. About Donbass: everyone is already asking YOU - well, twitch! To solve all the questions with you, the Nazis. And NOBODY, NOBODY will stand up for you - you are rubbish for them, a means to annoy Russia. And you crow, just - you. For the bear does not crow ... it is silent for the time being. Yes, and we have no Nazi-Bandera brothers in our brothers. You ivans have forgotten their kinship. For you, brothers are those who FOR AGE you ... are the west. That is why you, looking at them yourself, yearn to "panuvat" ... There is no worse master than a FORMER SLAVE ... And you are the SLAVES of the west.
                4. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                  A.Lex (Secret information) 9 February 2021 09: 56
                  0
                  ABOUT! One more moment! Here is your literary figure (whom you sing at the state level) wrote about you yourself:

                  “I don’t like Ukrainians ... I know so little about them, but I’m so rich in dumbness, tough stiffness, licentiousness and fucking, but I really don’t know why I’m loving you ... I can, I love Ukraine as a race, that race I am spirited, sentimental, amused by the hart and the strength of the will, so little good for a political life on a vile smitnik, so fertile for an inverted variety ... "

                  Determine who it is?
                5. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                  A.Lex (Secret information) April 21 2021 22: 06
                  0
                  We will take whom we need, but we will not ask YOU. You have not yet emptied the whole cesspool - dive, it is not deep there. There is your awareness of yourself!
              2. art_2 Offline art_2
                art_2 (Mikhail Yuryevich Artemyev) April 19 2021 10: 38
                0
                Putin and without the Balts is successfully ruining everything.
            2. boriz Offline boriz
              boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 01: 11
              +2
              but just very accurately in that paragraph about Russia happened.

              Have you read the interview of your prezik-clown?

              "It's very unpleasant to feel that you are standing with an outstretched hand," Zelensky sums up.

              Is this the gidn_st that you liked?
              Was it Zelensky who explained to Geyropka at the Davos Forum what the rules of the game would be? Did they even give him the floor? And anyway, invited?
              You are extras in world politics. Pawns. A tool for creating Russia's problems. And it will come back to haunt you in the near future.
              1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
                Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 2 February 2021 01: 27
                -4
                Yeah, your Putin desperately wants to be accepted as an equal in this very Geyropka, only now they are treated like a plague.
                1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                  A.Lex (Secret information) 9 February 2021 09: 58
                  0
                  GDP wants? laughing laughing laughing Yes, he (such a parasite) in Russia - Tsar and Bokh! (as some here think ... and YOU ALSO, by the way!) ... What for him this back part (ie -) I (oops) of Eurasia surrendered?
          2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
            A.Lex (Secret information) 1 February 2021 23: 22
            0
            Okay, Bor, let's see what he will answer to my comment ... I wrote there, really ... from the bottom of my heart! laughing
  6. BMP-2 Offline BMP-2
    BMP-2 (Vladimir V.) 31 January 2021 14: 37
    +7
    Well, you know, comrades Balts, to love for hate is already some kind of sadomasochism! :)) For sadomasochism - this is for you to Europe! :)))
  7. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 31 January 2021 19: 51
    0
    After the collapse of the USSR, Russians stopped loving the Baltics

    - No, well, the Russians loved and ... and stopped loving; the Balts did not love and ... and so they remained in a "state of dislike" ... - But only the "Baltic dislike" today for them has turned into a movement to nowhere; into a senseless downward movement ...
    - The Russians have not lost anything; and the Balts have lost a lot ... - and no one likes them now ...
    - Poland does not need the Balts; Germany - even more so; and for the Americans the Balts today have become "Irish" of the 18-19 centuries ... - The Americans put NATO collars on the Balts (which the Balts happily accepted) and feed them slightly ..; so that they can carry these collars ...
    - And today the whole raison d'être of the Baltics ... is a constant demonstration in front of the Americans ... of their dislike for Russia ... -Such a theater of the absurd ... - But due to this (this constant demonstration of dislike for Russia) the Baltics are still could not survive ...
    - But the Baltics were lucky ... - It was lucky that Russia never punishes "small nations" and always nurses them ... - Here too ... - Russia could have economically ruined and strangled the Baltics long ago (well, the Americans would not simply support the Balts at their own expense and supply them with subsidies and orders for Baltic crafts, as was done during the Soviet era) ... -Americans would simply create a militarized zone line in the place of the Baltic States; but they would simply not give a damn about the Balts themselves ... - go wherever you want and feed yourself as you want ...
    - But the Balts were again saved by Russia ... - all some kind of Russian-Baltic economic relations; some kind of connections; commodity exchange ... and so on ... - The Baltics somehow survived ... - Well, the Americans were forced to somehow start paying attention to the Balts ... as a people ... and even took them to NATO ... and now they even slightly feed
    - And what will happen next ...
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 1 February 2021 08: 43
      -6
      He laughed about the fact that "nobody likes the Balts" - this is probably the Russians are very fond of :))))
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 1 February 2021 13: 05
        -4
        Quote: Anatoly Babug
        He laughed about the fact that "nobody likes the Balts" - this is probably the Russians are very fond of :))))

        Moreover, they go to the Baltic States for permanent residence. Especially to Tallinn.
        1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) 9 February 2021 10: 03
          0
          Quote: Vladest
          Quote: Anatoly Babug
          He laughed about the fact that "nobody likes the Balts" - this is probably the Russians are very fond of :))))

          Moreover, they go to the Baltic States for permanent residence. Especially to Tallinn.

          We know, we know who is going there - Christ sellers (Judas - in short). Those who sell their Motherland wholesale and retail (except for those who lived there and had housing during the Soviet era).
  8. Joker62 Offline Joker62
    Joker62 (Ivan) 1 February 2021 01: 28
    0
    ... but you have to beat backhand ...

    Spatula on the sopatka ???? wassat
  9. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 1 February 2021 12: 49
    -7
    In Estonia, the standard of living is several times higher than in Russia. But Putin's media are doing their job well. Although a piece of truth here is the transit of oil through the Baltic states. But the truth is that Russia cannot give the Baltics anything for the exchange of high-tech, except for raw materials.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 00: 56
      +3
      But the truth is that Russia cannot give the Baltics anything for the exchange of high-tech, except for raw materials.

      You have leaked everything high-tech that you had. Or do you want us to build it for you again? Right now!
      Well-being is on the brink, since you don't have to worry about the country's defense. But this prosperity is a year left. Putin's speech in Davos must be listened to carefully. Globalism is over and nobody else will need you.
      And what should we, at least raw materials, exchange with you? We certainly don't need anything from you.
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 13: 42
        -4
        Quote: boriz
        You have leaked everything high-tech that you had. Or do you want us to build it for you again? Right now!

        Estonia is one of the first in the world in terms of digitalization. Before you scream without knowing the situation, you still need to refresh the knowledge in your RAM.
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 14: 09
          +2
          And it's all? Our Rosatom programmers are definitely the best in the world, there is simply no screeching about it, they are doing serious things. Since the 60s, they have been counting on nuclear explosions so as not to engage in tests. In the United States, all charges are at the level of 50 years ago, for ours a new charge is not a problem. They are ordered to miscalculate the aerodynamic behavior of aircraft, which are only being developed so as not to blow in the wind tunnel of the aircraft in full size. By the way, I have been aware of the digital state in Estonia for a long time and cited it in the comments as the only positive example. The other Balts cannot boast of anything at all. Already in Riga, Russian sprats are being sold in chains. And fishermen (including Estonian ones) are moving en masse to Russia.
          In our country, the full digital control of the RF Armed Forces has been implemented online. The same model is capable of running our state. The fact that it has not yet been implemented is a purely political problem. Now Putin is just solving it.
          And what in general is your country doing in such high-tech? Digitalization of management is a job for several people for a couple of years. Implementation is already a routine.
          You (not only Estonia) merged all the advanced real production that you had, instead of developing it. I can, of course (since you forgot), once again list what makes Russia a technologically advanced state in the world. But there is no desire to repeat itself.
          By the way, there is no such school of political economy that exists in Russia (albeit on sheer enthusiasm) anywhere in the world. No one was able to foresee what is happening in the global economy now. And no one is able to offer a way for the further development of the world and regional economy.
          And in general, in Russia there was and is fundamental science, in one of 3 - 4 countries. You never had and never will, by definition. One of our vaccines against Covid is already widely used, without any special incidents and with an efficiency of about 90% (unlike Pfizer, from which dozens of people die). Another is on the way, with an efficiency of about 100%.
          You have nothing close. Your destiny is a farm backwater and gradual extinction.
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 15: 19
            -4
            Quote: boriz
            You have nothing close. Your destiny is a farm backwater and gradual extinction.

            You live with old fat. And the brain must always be refreshed.
            Estonia is a small country and cannot be like the Russian Federation in large-scale projects. But in Estonia the level of digitalization is higher than in the Russian Federation. Digitalization is a qualitative parameter and does not depend on the size of the state. We do not have an analogue of the MFC in the Russian Federation, so this is not necessary, I can solve all my problems lying on the couch with the help of Mobol ID. Elections to power, medicine and everything can be done. And this is already 10 years ago. Labor books have disappeared since 2000. You don't need a license in the car. ID cart replaces all documents in the country.
            Is there something similar in the Russian Federation? E-residency in Estonia. Guide: what it is and why, rights, cost and instructions
            Well, it is not visible in practice that the Russian Federation is one of the leading. Study the ratings in full. The atom really only remained. The standard of living is already below the Chinese level. The growth rates of economies are minuscule.
            https://hightech.plus/ поищите много тут чего российского в науке , изобретениях и идеях .
            And about 200 vaccines are in development in the world.
            You have to look wider, at under your breath.
            1. boriz Offline boriz
              boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 16: 06
              +3
              You live with old fat. And the brain must always be refreshed.

              Yes, you have nothing to refresh. Nobody needs you, nobody really bothers you. The remote US elections have clearly shown their value. And the fraudulent hackers haven't taken you seriously yet. Because there are no volumes, it is unprofitable. Will you lay down the entire database of electronic work books and what will you do? ID-card (by the way, D, not T) is the last step before the digital concentration camp. Rejoice, lambs. An appointment with a doctor has long been through the Internet.
              But you constantly evade the answer, what can you offer Russia, which we cannot do without? What do you occupy the population with high-tech?

              And about 200 vaccines are in development in the world.

              What matters is not how many vaccines are developed, but how many are used. And yours is definitely not there.
              And the vaccine is a policy tool. Including on this vaccine, the future president of Ukraine, Medvedchuk, with his party of HLE, overtook Zelensky in the ratings of Servants of the People.

              Estonia is a small country and cannot be like the Russian Federation in large-scale projects.

              Then shut up and be silent in a rag. You are unable to comprehend our scale and problems. And you climb to teach. Russia in the coming years will become one of the 4 leaders in the world. And you will become an unknown backwater. As, in fact, now.
              Only Putin alone accepts your Kersti, out of old memory and out of the kindness of his soul.
              But this kindness is over. In 2020. Estonia was included in the Top 5 countries that did not receive the New Year's greetings. This is a black mark.
              American presidents - only in bulk, three Balts at a time. And then he does not know which of the presidents is from which country.
              And shove the ratings to hell, they are written to order, do not mean anything and no one believes them.
              1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 19: 11
                -5
                Quote: boriz
                The remote US elections have clearly shown their value.

                You don't have to write this, I listen to your media.

                Quote: boriz
                What matters is not how many vaccines are developed, but how many are used.

                So you should write how much. The potential for vaccine production is very small in Russia. It would be enough for myself. After all, the epidemic is still in full swing. When it's over, then everyone will count. Who, what and how much.
                But still, there should be some success in Russia. And what kind of state is it if it has no success.
                1. Shrek intator Offline Shrek intator
                  Shrek intator (Shrek Intator) 24 February 2021 13: 19
                  +1
                  Are you sure they don't exist? In Russia, the press does not print about small-scale successes, only about global, world, but not regional. I can give you an example. When creating the MC-21, Western companies refused to supply components made of carbon fiber and imposed sanctions on their supply (which, by the way, is a violation of international trade rules and an example of unfair competition), in return, the Russian Federation has established its own production of these materials, contracts are already being concluded for their supply abroad ... Have you heard something about this? I am sure not, just as we have not heard anything about the MC-21 itself, which, by the way, is a competitor to Airbus and Boeing. And such examples are countless. It's all about the selectivity of the information received, you do not want to see an objective picture of what is happening and do not have it. By the way, regarding digitalization, in the Russian Federation there is a website of the State Service, where I can get any services for paperwork and payment for utilities, loans, appointments to doctors and to the ranks of the Communist Party, inclusive, etc. etc.
              2. Vladest Offline Vladest
                Vladest (Vladimir) 31 March 2021 12: 14
                -2
                Quote: boriz
                But you are constantly evading the answer, what can you offer Russia

                This should be an end in itself? my opinion should be further from you, but the geography cannot be changed. Estonia has enough markets for the application.
                Estonia is one of the most advanced among the young states and this is the main thing. The standard of living is ahead of the Russian Federation and this is also the main thing for its population. Maybe this is why the Russians are fleeing from the Russian Federation and to Estonia too.
                I am an outsider. Better to listen to a native Russian why I'm running.

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            2. boriz Offline boriz
              boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 18: 55
              +2
              By the way, about 200 vaccines.
              There are vaccines and VACCINES,
              https://inosmi.ru/science/20210202/249050018.html
              1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 19: 17
                -5
                Quote: boriz
                VACCINES

                It's good. But this is an exception. And the exception proves the rule. And the rule is that Russia gives little for world progress. That is not enough for big Russia.
                It is enough to open a site like "High-tech +" and see what and how much from Russia. It will take a long time to search. The site is Russian by the way.
                1. boriz Offline boriz
                  boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 19: 30
                  +3
                  Everyone sees what he wants. Not all Russian media work for the interests of Russia. Many are bought by globalists.
                  Not the scale of comments to compare the achievements of Estonia and the Russian Federation.
                  And for the third time you refused to show that Estonia can offer Russia something that Russia cannot do without.
                  You simply do not have the right to speak in such discussions.
                  1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                    Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 19: 35
                    -5
                    Quote: boriz
                    And for the third time you refused to show that Estonia can

                    Yes, even in the fifth. What am I to you a doll. Two fingers on the wall and "bite". Estonia is quality.
                    Or do you think that selling gas to us is High-tech?
                    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                      A.Lex (Secret information) 9 February 2021 10: 08
                      0
                      In the end, you can answer - what can you offer Russia? Stop fussing - answer normally!
              2. Vladest Offline Vladest
                Vladest (Vladimir) 31 March 2021 13: 58
                -2
                Quote: boriz
                There are vaccines and VACCINES,

                What is the Chinese category?
                1. boriz Offline boriz
                  boriz (boriz) 31 March 2021 14: 46
                  +2
                  Ours definitely belong to the category of VACCINES. Chinese - life will show. Astra-Zeneca does not even belong to the category of vaccines. Just poison. Pfizer is also suspicious.
                  1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                    Vladest (Vladimir) 31 March 2021 15: 05
                    -2
                    Quote: boriz
                    Ours definitely belong to the category of VACCINES. Chinese - life will show. Astra-Zeneca does not even belong to the category of vaccines. Just poison. Pfizer is also suspicious.

                    This is popularly called "You cannot praise yourself, then who then?"
                    Where is the Russian Federation in terms of vaccine circulation?
                    1. boriz Offline boriz
                      boriz (boriz) 31 March 2021 15: 20
                      +2
                      And what does the circulation have to do with it? We do not force them on anyone. And they did not set the task to overwhelm the whole world with them. Therefore, a production like Pfizer was not deployed.
                      And the West imposes its vaccines, as the Americans impose their weapons. Given that it is gradually becoming clear to everyone that, in general, our weapons are better in quality and more advanced.
                      Pfizer made a laboratory of guinea pigs out of Israel so that Netanyahu could once again become prime minister on this chip. Time will show how this will turn out to be the health of the Israelis, especially after Bibi ceases to be prime minister and will not be able to influence the statistics.
                      Pfizer was created as a global farm. This is not about taking care of your health; Things are a little different.
                      And journalists have already figured out that the laboratory in Wuhan belongs to a company controlled by Pfizer, which, in turn, is part of BlackRock, Inc. Which belongs to no one knows who, but is funded by Soros.
                      So, it's better not to mess with Pfizer.
                      Well, I'm not even talking about Astra-Zeneca.
                    2. boriz Offline boriz
                      boriz (boriz) 31 March 2021 16: 04
                      +1
                      Or
                      https://inosmi.ru/politic/20210330/249449776.html
            3. gore Offline gore
              gore (Alexander) 31 March 2021 11: 50
              +1
              Vladest (Vladimir), why don't you write that in estonia you are already trying to reproduce children programmatically using Mobol ID? Looking at your demographics, I'm starting to believe more and more ...
        2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) 9 February 2021 10: 04
          0
          Vova, digitalization does not produce a machine, it does not grow bread.
  10. goland72 Offline goland72
    goland72 (Andrei) 1 February 2021 13: 17
    +2
    The Baltics have never been independent. Only in Soviet times she was the face of the Union in front of the West, and now she is the backside of the West in front of Russia. Hence the attitude.
    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
      Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 15: 53
      -4
      Quote: goland72
      The baltics never

      Now no one is independent. So it was in the Middle Ages. Remember who designed the Kremlin for you)))
      Or the names of the heroes of the Battle of Borodino, all the names are Russian?
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 18: 59
        +3
        This is what distinguishes an empire from an ordinary country.
        We are not oppressed on a national basis. I found myself at the height of my tasks - moving up the career ladder. Unlike you. Were a showcase of the USSR, became the backwoods of the EU. Until the EU "broke", and only then ...
        1. Vladest Offline Vladest
          Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 19: 06
          -6
          Quote: boriz
          Were a showcase of the USSR, became the backwoods of the EU.

          As you wish. In Estonia, the standard of living is higher than in the Russian Federation and this is the main thing for its inhabitants. To us and quite a few Russians have already moved to permanent residence. Estonia is simply better.
          And now there are no empires.
          And ask about the equality of all peoples from the Crimean Tatars.
          Estonia does not compete with the Russian Federation in power for this, the Russian Federation has the United States, China is many times more powerful. But Turkey, England, France, Germany, Japan, etc. and so on, this is for the Russian Federation. RF at least get around them.
          1. boriz Offline boriz
            boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 19: 45
            +3
            The Crimean Tatars were granted such rights that they had not been interrogated in Ukraine in 30 years.
            At one time, the Crimean Tatars existed for hundreds of years at the expense of the slave trade from predatory raids on the Slavic population of Russia, the Commonwealth, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Russian and Zhemoytsky. After that, they left them to live on these lands - let them pray for the generosity of the Slavic peoples. Until it ended. According to various estimates, more than 6 million people were taken into slavery. And during the German occupation 20 Crimean Tatars served the Germans, just the entire mobilization resource of this people. Read how the US treated its citizens with 000% Japanese blood.
            And about equality, you ask your Russians and NEGROs. Soon it will come out sideways to you.
            Do you think someone forgot Terminal D, the bronze soldier who was killed by Dmitry Ganin, your laws on education?
            Your standard of living remained, well, if, for a year. Then everything will be remembered for you.
            1. Vladest Offline Vladest
              Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 20: 58
              -5
              Quote: boriz
              The Crimean Tatars were granted such rights that they had not been interrogated in Ukraine in 30 years.

              What is it, in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, citizens have the right to rallies and meetings)))).
              1. boriz Offline boriz
                boriz (boriz) 2 February 2021 21: 05
                +3
                There is. Permitted.
                Look at the French yellow vests, how the police kneaded them.
                Remember the Night of the Bronze Soldier. When the police rented Terminal D IN ADVANCE. They knew the scale of the upcoming massacre in advance. How they drove and put people on concrete. At night in April, what the weather is - you know as well as I do. And they did not let me get up or sit down, they beat me when I tried. Regardless of gender and age. Memories of participants on the Internet are full. How were those who survived being taken out after interrogation to the intensive care unit. The dead were taken out of the terminal in black plastic bags. The death toll is unknown. How the Citizen of the Russian Federation Dmitry Ganin was killed. All this will soon backfire on you. Do not doubt.
                1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                  Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 21: 22
                  -4
                  Quote: boriz
                  There is. Permitted.

                  Heard only by unauthorized. There is one thing in the Constitution, and another permission. What is stronger than the Basic Law (Constitution) go the nonsense of an official?
                  In Germany, you call the police and NOTIFY that you want to wander around with a poster. Do you dream about that?
                  1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                    A.Lex (Secret information) 9 February 2021 10: 23
                    +2
                    Yes, tell us about Germany! Here's how, for example about this:



                    Enjoy the "right methods"!
                    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                      Vladest (Vladimir) 9 February 2021 21: 05
                      -4
                      Quote: A.Lex
                      Enjoy the "right methods"!

                      Is your brain skewed? Permitting and holding a demonstration is ONE, and rioting is ANOTHER.
                      When you read something, also think)))
                      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                        A.Lex (Secret information) 10 February 2021 13: 20
                        0
                        Everything is in order with the brains. It's just that you want to see only what is beneficial to YOU!
                      2. Vladest Offline Vladest
                        Vladest (Vladimir) 10 February 2021 14: 45
                        -3
                        Quote: A.Lex
                        Everything is in order with the brains. It's just that you want to see only what is beneficial to YOU!

                        This is not the basis of what the conclusion is drawn? Or did I not clarify the difference for you? Demonstration is ONE, and overclocking is another. It is necessary to compare the comparable.
                        Even the difference is that they overclock. Just hooligans are one thing, while political opponents are another.
                        And the government has no right to ISINU.
                        Ask about the same USA. There you will find demonstrations for all tastes, from defending the rights of blacks to defending the rights of frogs. Some walk around demanding a ban on weapons, others walk around and yell whatever it is.
                        Is there something like that in Russia?
                        I don't know how you see everything, but in the Russian Federation they have learned very well to let people see and know only what they consider necessary in the Kremlin.
                        Although there are more or less honest media in the Russian Federation, these are business channels on Radio and OTR TV and RBC. Where there is a question of money, it is difficult to lie.
                      3. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                        A.Lex (Secret information) 11 February 2021 14: 43
                        0
                        I told you everything, the justifier of Nazism, Vova.
                      4. Vladest Offline Vladest
                        Vladest (Vladimir) 11 February 2021 18: 34
                        -4
                        Quote: A.Lex
                        I told you everything, the justifier of Nazism, Vova.

                        Whose cow. "There are 53 fascist organizations in Russia"
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 9 February 2021 10: 10
      0
      If you had a higher standard of living, then we would go to you. And now your population is fleeing the country. You have no prospects ... from the word AT ALL.
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 9 February 2021 21: 06
        -4
        Quote: A.Lex
        If you had a higher standard of living, then we would go to you. And now your population is fleeing the country. You have no prospects ... from the word AT ALL.

        Over the past year, RF - floor. million.
        1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) 10 February 2021 13: 44
          0
          AND? Is it for permanent residence or ... And the reverse data? Or do you only show what is beneficial to YOU? On the other hand, we are a free country. Whoever wants to go there.
          And now some statistics:
          The number of persons in respect of whom a decision was made to acquire citizenship of the Russian Federation - 656 347 (January-December 2020);
          registered under the program "Assistance to the resettlement of compatriots" - 61 952
          This is so - for the seed ...
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 10 February 2021 14: 55
            -3
            Quote: A.Lex
            AND? Is it for permanent residence or ... And the reverse data?

            I apologize for not specifying Minus.
            here in more detail. Putin demanded from the governors that the Russians give birth and love the authorities. At the end of 2020, the permanent population of Russia decreased by 510,5 thousand, and the natural decline reached 574,8 thousand people and became a record since 2006.
            https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/aktsii/putin-potreboval-ot-gubernatorov-chtoby-rossiyane-rozhali-i-lyubili-vlast-1030045110
  • Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 2 February 2021 16: 10
    -4
    Quote: goland72
    Only in Soviet times was she the face of the Union in front of the West,

    The longer from you, the richer. See Finland, Sweden and Norway.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 10 February 2021 13: 22
      0
      We see! Especially if you look at it! And the most European Europeans - it was fun there!
  • Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 31 March 2021 14: 00
    -2
    Quote: goland72
    The Baltics have never been independent

    If possible, then an example of an "independent" state.
  • Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 1 February 2021 14: 55
    +3
    To be honest, the children of the forest brothers have always bullied visitors. What love should be for? Probably for what technique they did? Or for rafiki? Or for sprats?
    Probably, they should be loved for the fact that they loved money from the RFSSR? Now they love ... Oops. They are loved. In the most interesting poses. EU, USA. Ukraine got them too.
  • Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 1 February 2021 15: 00
    +2
    Quote: Vladest
    This is a complete lie. In Estonia, the standard of living is several times higher than in Russia. But Putin's media are doing their job well. Although a piece of truth here is the transit of oil through the Baltic states. But the truth is that Russia cannot give the Baltics anything for the exchange of high-tech, except for raw materials.

    The problem is that apart from selling rails ..
  • maiman61 Offline maiman61
    maiman61 (Yuri) 5 March 2021 13: 06
    0
    Have you fallen out of love? What, stupid people? If the Balts, every second, do nothing but shit on Russia, who will love these freaks?
  • dirsa Offline dirsa
    dirsa (dirsa) April 10 2021 16: 13
    -1
    Again and again similar nonsense! There is no doubt that relations with Russia will not improve further!

    The Baltics in Soviet times are a Russian trophy, which the Russians have equipped for themselves and without asking. And they did not build anything for us, but developed new territories for themselves - only in Latvia in 1990 there were 50%. residents - Russians, brought from hungry Pskov and Tambov regions. It was colonization so that the locals would not rock the boat. The Russians under the USSR did not learn the local languages, another 30 years would have passed, and there would have been no Latvia, there would have been a Latvian-Russian ASSR, like Karelia, where Karelians cannot be found. Russian propaganda is playing off the Russian-speaking citizens of the Baltic states, with the indigenous population, and this is a FACT. The worst thing is that the Russian people from the Baltic countries themselves are being led to this propaganda by the Kremlin, not everything is true, but a large percentage. Essentially all this comes from Russian TV. Russian TV is a zombie satellite aimed at all the countries of the world and at the Russian-speaking people living there. They grow up on a great-power chauvinist ideology. Our Russian only can every year on "May 9" thump, yell "Russia!" "Russia!" and behave like, not all of course, but a large percentage. "Russkiy mir" is Russian people living in different countries, watching only Russian channels, and therefore are "cohorts" of people being zombified. They will still live in their parallel world. And all this will be fed from the Kremlin in every possible way. This is the purpose of the Kremlin, to keep Russians in other countries, on a leash and to shout out at the right moment - OUR BEATS. We've already seen it on 'Bronze Night' in Tallinn.

    Did the Baltic countries and Poland, entering NATO, lose their independence, became a part of another state? Has someone come and made people live the way they do not want, appointed their rulers, their own power, their system? Began to be exiled to the camps, introduced a planned economy, destroyed the class of entrepreneurs? If the CCCP-Kremlin behaved like NATO now, providing only military protection, then the Baltic states and Poland would not have any questions to the CCCP and the Russian Federation, neither then nor now. Not a single country that has managed to break away from Russia asks back. If you like living under the eternal king so much, live it! But do not meddle in other countries with your camp concepts!
  • Boris Nikitin Offline Boris Nikitin
    Boris Nikitin (Boris Nikitin) April 26 2021 06: 33
    0
    Sorry, I didn’t read the text, I just agree with the title - a long time ago, my aunt from the Baltic states said that they would go with (sat) and with (army) in the products sent to Russia. Since then, nothing from there is needed.
    I will add - now it is somehow difficult to make friends. Now that we, who heard this, will die, we can then ...