More than half of the F-35 fighters are sky-ready - American press


Ellen Lord, the outgoing Pentagon's deputy chief for procurement, spoke in an interview with the details of the Joint Strike Fighter program, and shed light on the current problems associated with the fifth generation F-35 fighter, writes the American edition of Military Watch.


The F-35 was designed as a low-cost single-engine fighter that would replace all fourth-generation F-16s, making it a lighter and cheaper-to-maintain counterpart to the extremely demanding fifth-generation F-22. However, in reality, the F-35 turned out to be very "gluttonous", its hourly operating costs amounted to $ 31 thousand, which is expensive even for the Pentagon, not the poorest organization on the planet. Therefore, the department decided to resume purchases of the F-16.

Given the high needs of the F-35 for maintenance, the Pentagon has already warned that there is no point in maintaining a large F-35 fleet. For example, the hourly operating costs of the F-16 are only $ 7,7 thousand. At the same time, the F-16 needs less maintenance and has very high combat readiness rates, despite the huge fleet.

In turn, more than half of the F-35 fighters are not ready. To be more precise, almost two-thirds of the F-35s available are unable to fly and cannot maintain their operational readiness due to two problems: the F135 engine and the canopy.

Currently, we are 36% fully ready to complete missions and strive to bring this indicator to the level of 50%

- said the Lord to the press.

In 2018, the head of the Pentagon, James Mattis, ordered the combat readiness of the F-35 at 80% of their number. However, it was impossible in principle to achieve this result. Later, this idea was abandoned as hopeless.

At the same time, Acting President, who retired in January 2021 Pentagon chief Christopher Miller called the Joint Strike Fighter program "monster creation." Currently, the development of the F-35 is behind schedule for several years, and the budget is much exceeded, summed up the media from the United States.
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  1. alex5450 Offline alex5450
    alex5450 (Alex L) 30 January 2021 20: 52
    -4
    Ellen Lloyd made a report and ran to get a job in Boeing. )
    1. 123 Online 123
      123 (123) 30 January 2021 22: 12
      +7
      Ellen Lloyd made a report and ran to get a job in Boeing. )

      Does a great friend of the American people think Boeing is doing much better? laughing
      1. alex5450 Offline alex5450
        alex5450 (Alex L) 30 January 2021 23: 54
        -2
        I believe that in the US there is a competition between large campaigns that muddy products that receive more orders.
        "It's not like we have," as the leavened guys say. Everything is good and good with us. Nobody swears. )
        1. 123 Online 123
          123 (123) 31 January 2021 00: 06
          +4
          So the "troubles" with Boeing were the "colleagues" inventing? And the production of the F-35 was stopped due to the intrigues of competitors? Do they have any real cause for concern? Life is beautiful and amazing smile
          1. alex5450 Offline alex5450
            alex5450 (Alex L) 31 January 2021 06: 53
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            Any car has both its drawbacks and troubles, some have more, some have less.
            The production of the F-35 was not stopped.
            Life is ordinary, but you can choose news with some specific sign and create a "special picture of the world" for yourself. They love it here.
            1. 123 Online 123
              123 (123) 31 January 2021 07: 10
              +4
              The production of the F-35 was not stopped.

              Insist on the wording suspended? Or is it competitors spreading rumors? smile

              Any car has both its drawbacks and troubles, some have more, some have less.
              Life is ordinary, but you can choose news with some specific sign and create a "special picture of the world" for yourself. They love it here.

              Undoubtedly, but you prefer to savor our local flaws and troubles, and you don't want to focus on the overseas ones. We went through the full program on the MiG-41, here you need both the aircraft and the project solely to maintain the KB pants. And the Americans are exceptionally great. Don't you create a "special picture of the world" like that? And in my opinion you adore it repeat
              1. alex5450 Offline alex5450
                alex5450 (Alex L) 31 January 2021 08: 03
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                I insist on the wording "postponed mass production." As it happened. Do you know what a new "small batch" is?

                I am a realist - what I think is what I say. And if I did not consider and do not consider the MiG-41 a "super fighter of the future" just because it is domestic, then I will write it. And to sing praises and rush ... into everything overseas here and so over the edge. Little work.
                1. 123 Online 123
                  123 (123) 31 January 2021 09: 15
                  +5
                  I insist on the wording "postponed mass production." As it happened.

                  In this regard, let me ask an immodest question. If production is postponed, is it currently in progress or not? smile

                  Do you know what a new "small batch" is?

                  Do you mean the production of the F-35? That is, you suppose they are just warming up. And then how they start, how they start to produce 100 pieces per hour fellow Is that what you mean? Quite a curious point of view yes I would like to know what it is based on. Accurate data and analysis or holy faith in the limitless possibilities of our overseas "partners".
                  Since the entire audience of Navalny is now at rallies (the most stupid really are the streets, and the more sane part is watching them from afar) there are more sane people here, they may have an insidious question. Do you know anything about the production capacity of the American aircraft industry, where it is possible to increase production to these "space" scales? And also from the countries of "partners", because they will also need to increase the production of components, or produce them to replace components in the United States.

                  I am a realist - what I think is what I say.

                  Let me doubt the correctness of these statements for now. I would like to see the answer to the questions listed above, and then draw a conclusion.

                  And if I did not consider and do not consider the MiG-41 a "superfighter of the future" just because it is domestic, then I will write it.

                  That is how yes And in the case of American aviation, your opinion is exactly the opposite. Moreover, your argumentation on the MiG is rather controversial, in my opinion, of course. It’s as if they are starting up production in our country to support production, and this is apparently not typical of the Americans. The argument, they say, other countries do not build this, which means that we do not need a convincing one. At least about the fact that perhaps only the Americans are capable of creating such an aircraft, but they do not have the task of covering a large length of the border with an underdeveloped network of airfields with aviation.

                  And to sing praises and throw poop into everything overseas here and so over the edge. Little work.

                  You can’t argue request You can see that you speak competently. Sing praises to everything overseas and throw ... (how do you take it into your hands belay do you even wash your hands sad ) in ours you do well.
                  1. alex5450 Offline alex5450
                    alex5450 (Alex L) 31 January 2021 11: 37
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                    If production is postponed, is it currently in progress or not?

                    Of course carried out. For this year, the order has already been made - 133 vehicles for domestic and foreign customers. The ramp-up has been postponed due to delays in testing the machine, which will now begin in the spring of the 21st.

                    I would like to know what it is based on.

                    It is based on the knowledge about the volume of orders and the previous plans to enter the "mass flow" (although it is more correct to write on the nominal production mode) .. The ceiling was supposed to be about 180 cars.

                    Do you know anything about the manufacturing capacity of the American aircraft industry,

                    LM has already produced 120+ devices per year. An increase in this number to 180-200 units per year is not a fantasy or something that requires special discussion.


                    Can't get past Navalny? ) It's good. This gives the country hope.

                    This is less typical of the Americans due to the greater wealth of the American military-industrial complex. Although there is protectionism there too.
                    For us, this is cutting out a bunch of hats from one budget skin.
                    1. 123 Online 123
                      123 (123) 31 January 2021 12: 48
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                      Of course carried out. For this year, the order has already been made - 133 vehicles for domestic and foreign customers. The ramp-up has been postponed due to delays in testing the machine, which will now begin in the spring of the 21st.

                      And how many were released in January and how many are planned to be released in February? smile

                      It is based on the knowledge about the volume of orders and the previous plans to enter the "mass flow" (although it is more correct to write on the nominal production mode) .. The ceiling was supposed to be about 180 cars.

                      In 2019, 134 fighters were built, in 2020 - 123. The plans were as follows

                      165 aircraft in 2020; 170 aircraft delivered in 2023; and from 175 to 180 delivered in 2024. The company expects its production to peak in 2023 and 2024.

                      https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/lockheed-martin-sees-f-35-production-rising-to-180-units-per-year-despite-high-flying-costs/136455.article

                      That is, it was planned to gradually increase by 5-10 cars per year. Is this what you said so pompously?

                      Do you know what a new "small batch" is?

                      Let me ask you, how many aircraft are small-scale production and how many serial or large-scale? How and by what criteria did you determine this? smile

                      LM has already produced 120+ devices per year. An increase in this number to 180-200 units per year is not a fantasy or something that requires special discussion.

                      First, what are 200? Themselves have just written 180. A gradual increase by 5-40 cars a year is really not a fantasy, so it's worth it because of this - do you know what a small-batch is? laughing

                      Can't get past Navalny? ) It's good. This gives the country hope.

                      And where without him? From each iron ... YouTube is all crammed with it. Just and discuss the exposure of his next lie. He and others like him sit and will sit and this really gives the country hope. yes

                      This is less typical of the Americans due to the greater wealth of the American military-industrial complex. Although there is protectionism there too.
                      For us, this is cutting out a bunch of hats from one budget skin.

                      Without orders, there is no wealth of the American military-industrial complex, and judging by the volumes, this is much more characteristic of them. Otherwise, the production of an aircraft that has not passed the test and has a lot of flaws and shortcomings in batches of more than 100 pieces per year is practically impossible to explain.
                      1. alex5450 Offline alex5450
                        alex5450 (Alex L) 31 January 2021 14: 34
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                        And how many were released in January and how many are planned to be released in February?

                        What's really there - let's schedule a day. Otherwise, there are no big bots! And to be signed with a seal!

                        They will distribute the "16th contract" for a year, as they always did.

                        In 2019, 134 fighters were built, in 2020 - 123. The plans were as follows

                        As far as I remember, plans for 2020 were up to 140 cars. Because of the covid, they were not fulfilled, producing "only 123 machines."

                        That is, it was planned to gradually increase by 5-10 cars per year. Is this what you said so pompously?

                        What did I say "pompously" ?! Are you really talking to me?

                        The whole humor of the situation is that, judging by the "Soviet newspapers", "mass production" (and if you read it correctly, the increase in the rate of purchases) is now postponed until spring. And it differs little from the current "small-scale" (and by the name of the parties since 2018 FRP - large-scale). But then there is no sensation either. What to discuss in runet? After all, "the Air Force refused! The head of the Pentagon called it !!!!" ))

                        You yourself violently start proving something. There is no fiction, as I wrote from the very beginning, in the current production situation of the F-35. The Pentagon is unhappy with the cost of the hour and the slowly increasing readiness. Lobbyists take away the dirt.

                        First, what are 200?

                        180 cars - the pace with the current procurement plans. If they change (new buyers appear) LM stated that they could produce more than 200. Again, I don’t notice something fabulous in this.

                        “He and others like him sit and will sit and this really gives the country hope. "

                        It is not surprising that we are discussing the second politician in the country after Putin (and who else we have after Putin in general, except for echo-heads without our own opinions). It is not surprising that there is a lot of attention to him.

                        As long as there are people like him, you look and people like you will not sit down. To my great surprise.

                        The USSR produced four hundred Su-27s, before the device was accepted into service, and even during the production process, it began to undergo modernization. They produce a lot of cars because they can. He who cannot, does not produce. Makes a "small batch" by the piece. )
                      2. 123 Online 123
                        123 (123) 31 January 2021 15: 14
                        +2
                        What's really there - let's schedule a day. Otherwise, there are no big bots! And to be signed with a seal!

                        Why do I need your schedule? I would like to know about planes. After all, they are continuously produced, with such a quantity, about a dozen per month is obtained. Or do you think they started in January, in December they passed everything at once?

                        The whole humor of the situation is that, judging by the "Soviet newspapers", "mass production" (and if you read it correctly, the increase in the rate of purchases) is now postponed until spring. And it differs little from the current "small-scale" (and by the name of the parties since 2018 FRP - large-scale). But then there is no sensation either. What to discuss in runet? After all, "the Air Force refused! The head of the Pentagon called it !!!!" ))

                        In Soviet newspapers there are criteria for determining where is mass production and where is serial production? The fact of the matter is that the number of aircraft produced will differ little from previous years. The thing is that the tests have not yet been carried out. This fact is rather difficult to explain, so they begin to play with words. And you are hooked on the word "small batch" solely to present the capabilities of your American friends in the best possible light.

                        You yourself violently start proving something. No fiction, as I wrote from the very beginning in the current situation no production of the F-35... The Pentagon is dissatisfied with the cost of the hour and the slowly increasing combat readiness. Lobbyists take away the dirt.

                        I started to prove to myself? Will you decide whether there is no production or do you still insist on the previous formulation?
                        What do the lobbyists have to do with it? Are there competitors producing similar aircraft?

                        180 cars - the pace with the current procurement plans. If they change (new buyers appear) LM stated that they could produce more than 200. Again, I don’t notice something fabulous in this.

                        So these are your assumptions? With a certain if, the grandmother automatically turns into a grandfather.

                        It is not surprising that we are discussing the second politician in the country after Putin (and who else we have after Putin in general, except for echo-heads without our own opinions). It is not surprising that there is a lot of attention to him.

                        Do not make me laugh laughing American and German six, worthless and liar. We are discussing them exclusively thanks to the efforts of the intelligence services of overseas penguins and at their own expense. So this abomination is not needed by anyone.

                        As long as there are people like him, you look and people like you will not sit down. To my great surprise.

                        He will sit, there he belongs. Maybe people like you will sit down. Don't want to share the fate of the leader?

                        The USSR produced four hundred Su-27s, before the device was accepted into service, and even during the production process, it began to undergo modernization. They produce a lot of cars because they can. He who cannot, does not produce. Makes a "small batch" by the piece. )

                        It was a formality. Eliminated the shortcomings, "signed the papers." Here we are talking about further production. The aircraft has been in operation longer and more produced, but there is still no sense. In my opinion, it is difficult to call it "can", if they could do it humanly, the Pentagon would not be so fussy. There is quantity, but no sense, in a word, bunglers.
                      3. alex5450 Offline alex5450
                        alex5450 (Alex L) 31 January 2021 19: 34
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                        Or do you think they started in January, in December they passed everything at once?

                        They are handed over to the customer in batches. On January 5, 610 units were delivered, now they will most likely finish off those 20 undelivered vehicles last year.

                        In Soviet newspapers there are criteria for determining where is mass production and where is serial production?

                        I'm telling you the same thing - the Runet picked up (turned into) nonsense, about "stopping" purchases and refusal from mass production. And it has been around for a long time and we are only talking about the pace of deliveries

                        And of course you got it right. Small American series, this is a dream of releasing for a decade with us. ) There is something to envy.

                        Americans are as friends to me as you are.

                        Are there competitors producing similar aircraft?

                        Of course there is - this is Boeing, which is now pushing the F-15XX and F-18. This is a lower generation, but the money is from the same barrel.

                        These were statements by LM (though quite old - about 7 years ago).
                        Here are echoes for example https://vpk.name/news/125290_temp_proizvodstva_istrebitelei_f-35_dolzhen_dostignut_200_mashin_v_god.html

                        Do not tell American and German six, insignificance and liar.

                        I'm not laughing. Anyone who has the courage to stand up to the system is no longer a six. Sixes are just sitting at home and are afraid to raise their eyes. Because "it's better like everyone else." Safer. And then we will be patient and you look the bowl will be full.

                        He will sit, there he should be. Maybe people like you will sit down. Do you want to share the fate of the leader?

                        I wonder what my crime is? Accustomed that there is no need for a reason - "he did not shout hurray!"
                        He is not my leader, and I do not share all of his principles. But you can easily follow him. Or maybe you will sit huddled in the kitchens and whine. Habitual and very bold. But only looking at the floor and only when allowed.

                        Su-27? Formality!? )) Well, yes, all that "eliminated the shortcomings." So here they eliminate it - the complexity has increased much.
                      4. 123 Online 123
                        123 (123) 31 January 2021 21: 08
                        +3
                        I'm telling you the same thing - the Runet picked up (turned into) nonsense, about "stopping" purchases and refusal from mass production. And it has been around for a long time and we are only talking about the pace of deliveries

                        Runet? belay They talk about batch or full-scale production.

                        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38507/its-official-pentagon-puts-f-35-full-rate-production-decision-on-hold

                        And of course you got it right. Small American series, this is a dream of releasing for a decade with us. ) There is something to envy.

                        I suppose I understood you correctly, but this is not what you just wrote about. I think you meant that - that's how much they produce and it's small-scale, but how they will start to work to the fullest ...
                        There is really nothing to envy here. Firstly, we do not need so much, and their production did not start in hundreds a year either.
                        Second, there is a problem with the F-35. Only a third, every third aircraft are combat-ready. They simply do not know what to do with it, how to get out of a difficult situation.

                        Americans are as friends to me as you are.

                        Well don't tell laughing I would not have thought of putting such an avatar on myself. What do you have written there? American, this soldier is your friend. I was not mistaken, maybe I did not reproduce it literally from memory? We are not friends with them and never will be. They have no friends. Absolutely not.
                        https://pikabu.ru/story/yetot_chelovek_tvoy_drug_ssha_1942_god_6945423

                        Of course there is - this is Boeing, which is now pushing the F-15XX and F-18. This is a lower generation, but the money is from the same barrel.

                        The replacement is not equivalent. After all, when you compared the volume of production with ours, it was the Su-57 that was in mind, while we also produce others.
                        They have a very difficult situation. To stop production means to be left without a 5th generation aircraft against the background of the launch of production in our country and the Chinese. Defense capacity suffers, prestige falls to the level of the plinth.
                        Very similar to the situation in the "oil war". All told for a long time how they defeated Russia, in fact, the Arabs "voluntarily" reduce production, the Americans simply silently reduced, and now they say that they did not really want to. We are for green energy. These are just attempts to save face.

                        These were statements by LM (though quite old - about 7 years ago).

                        Five. Article 5 years. The information is interesting.

                        "By 2019, the company should increase its production rate to 17 machines per month."

                        It seems that everything is not so smooth.

                        I'm not laughing. Anyone who has the courage to stand up to the system is no longer a six. Sixes are just sitting at home and are afraid to raise their eyes. Because "it's better like everyone else." Safer. And then we will be patient and you look the bowl will be full.

                        A person who opposes the system for money has not courage, but greed. I understand who is trying to achieve what and will not go to the rally with the stupid-headed, so I'm a six? In my opinion, you with your avatar and convictions fall under this definition more. And now I hope to sip the gruel from the bowl for a long time.

                        I wonder what my crime is?

                        I have no idea. You don't want to be with like-minded people and fight for beliefs? Or do you prefer to stay at home and let others sit in jail? In my opinion, you recently said something about this behavior sad

                        Accustomed that there is no need for a reason - "he did not shout hurray!"

                        Occasion? He was at least under a subscription. He could not find himself in Omsk without breaking the law. This is a real reason for being behind bars. He knew this very well, but apparently decided that he was a celestial, and the laws were not for him.

                        He is not my leader, and I do not share all of his principles. But you can easily follow him.

                        Я belay I'd rather drive both of you through the snowdrifts until your convictions wear off.

                        Or maybe you will sit huddled in the kitchens and whine. Habitual and very bold. But only looking at the floor and only when allowed.

                        Boy, are you agitating me to the rally? Do you take it weakly? sad By the way, while you are sitting in the kitchen, quietly like a mouse under a broom, whine and urge others. Disgusting behavior winked
                        What to do, a standard type of oppositionist. Say hello to your American friends wink
                      5. alex5450 Offline alex5450
                        alex5450 (Alex L) 1 February 2021 20: 30
                        -3
                        Runet? They talk about serial or full-scale production.

                        Namely - “they” are talking about the suspension of the transition to full-scale production, in our country they are talking about “stopping production” (“abandoned ...” or “stopping mass production”, although the first is not there, and the second has been going on for a long time.

                        There is really nothing to envy here.

                        Firstly, the grapes are green and we don't need anything at all, except for what is. )
                        Secondly, we would have their problems. The combat readiness is increasing - for example, a couple of years ago, the Marines talked about 4% of the finished vehicles. But it is rising slowly and expensively, which does not suit Pentagon financiers.

                        We are not friends with them and never will be. They have no friends. Absolutely not.

                        The USA saved us from hunger three times. But of course for malicious reasons. ) They are not my friends, but they are not enemies either.

                        The replacement is not equivalent.

                        Certainly not equivalent, but what does Boeing care about? But since this is not the top five, the F-35 will be brought to mind.

                        After all, when you compared the volume of production with ours, it was the Su-57 that was in mind, while we also produce others.

                        Last year, if memory serves, 10 new 4th generation fighters, plus maybe a pair of MiG-29s. But other machines are also being produced in the United States - for example, the naval F-18 is preparing for the production of the F-15.

                        We are for green energy. These are just attempts to save face.

                        These are attempts to change the world. Judging by the plans, we will get a lot.

                        Five. Article 5 years. The information is interesting.

                        Do you think the situation changes every day?

                        It seems that everything is not so smooth.
                        We know why.

                        A person who opposes the system for money has not courage, but greed.

                        Ha ha ha. Are you serious? I like you for an adequate interlocutor. For money! In our country! Oppose the authorities and sit in the zone or get shot! While sticking to the budget and becoming a respected person is easier not just at times, but orders of magnitude. Even sitting up on some kind of opposition baggage.

                        I have no idea. Don't want to be with like-minded people and fight for beliefs?
                        Well, did you want me to go to jail? Like "and all the same" Who are they? Especially considering the rich bloody traditions of our Motherland in the fight against dissent,

                        I would rather drive both of you through the snowdrifts until the convictions wear off.

                        It will be funny if after a while they start to drive people like you. By law, of course. However, if you work in the police-police ... then it is understandable. You can't think otherwise. At least while they pay.

                        Boy, are you agitating me to the rally? Do you take it weakly?

                        I, you boy, do not agitate, I do not agitate anyone here at all. Life will agitate you. But you will endure. For this is a typical behavior of a person who likes to feel the heavy hand of the owner on the back of the neck (preferably a kind one, of course).

                        It's funny that I even feel a little sorry for you. This is not the first time our country, accompanied by such daring songs (and the malice of everyone around, where can we go without it) goes to another mountain of corpses and tears. It is not the bosses who suffer in the first place. In previous years, we, once again in a trouble, asked for help from the Americans for some reason. Do you think they will help again?
                2. Cyril Online Cyril
                  Cyril (Kirill) 31 January 2021 16: 19
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                  He who cannot, does not produce. Makes a "small batch" by the piece. )

                  And they also try to put on a good face with a bad game - they say, in Russia, they first bring it to perfection, and then they just take it into service and launch it into a large series.

                  True, when you give them the example of the same Su-27, why are they poking around :)
  • Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 30 January 2021 20: 56
    +3
    Daragay transfer ...
    Well, you can’t do that!
    The patients of the cargo cult will now have a non-illusory bathert!
    1. 123 Online 123
      123 (123) 30 January 2021 22: 33
      +3
      Daragay transfer ...
      Well, you can’t do that!
      The patients of the cargo cult will now have a non-illusory bathert!

      Do not blame the editorial staff, they are doing everything they can to preserve the psyche of patients laughing
      Their colleagues are less scrupulous and more outspoken.

      Acting US Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller, shortly before his resignation, called the famous American fifth-generation fighter F-35 "a piece of crap."

      http://k-politika.ru/pentagon-nazval-f-35-kuskom-derma/?utm_source=warfiles.ru

      And the figure of 50% is overstated in my opinion. I don't want to dig on the Internet, but in my opinion there were data somewhere at the level of 34-36%
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  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 January 2021 23: 27
    -1
    Ah, the usual black PR ...
    What is expensive - yes, it is cheaper to drive barmaleev on simple ones. Than a stealth bomber.

    Here on VO yesterday an article - about a similar situation with us.
    Like, for the barmaley and the M-101 "Gzhel" (stored in warehouses, 500 bucks an hour of flight) will do, just a little twist for the military.
  • Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 31 January 2021 01: 37
    +1
    more believe the American press. Trump very correctly called them fake news.