Captured "Shell" in Libya is unlikely to help the Americans


A few days ago, the captured Pantsir-S1E air defense missile system, which was delivered from Libya to Germany to the Ramstein base, fell into the hands of the American military. In this regard, a natural question arose, and will not fall into the hands of the United States and its allies, our certain military secrets and Technology? Let's try to figure it out.


Pantsir-S1 is a self-propelled short-range anti-aircraft missile and cannon system designed for anti-aircraft cover of guarded objects. Increased attention was drawn to them after Russia's entry into the Syrian campaign, as well as the controversial practice of their use in Libya, where many of them fell victim to attacks from Turkish attack drones. The Pentagon got the Emirates-assembled air defense missile system, which the army of Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar received from their sponsors from the UAE. What secrets can Americans discover?

Let's be honest, none of them. The fact is that Pantsir-C1 was originally created with the financial support of their allies in the Middle East. At the end of the nineties, Arab sheikhs allocated 700 million dollars to the Russian defense enterprise, which is dying from underfunding, for development work alone. By order of the UAE, 50 copies were manufactured and delivered on the basis of the German MAN-SX45 chassis, while our military uses an automobile platform from KAMAZ and BAZ. Of course, Russian weapons, somewhat simplified in their characteristics, are exported. But it would be extremely naive to believe that the Emirates did not give their American allies the opportunity to study the inside of the Pantsir-C1 air defense missile system.

An old version of an anti-aircraft complex made in the middle of the XNUMXs fell into the hands of the US military. In Libya, "Pantsiri" did not perform well against Turkish attack drones, and there are several explanations for this. First, when they were designed, there was still no such air threat as a small strike UAV. Secondly, the crews serving them in the semi-partisan army of Haftar were obviously not prepared in the best way. In summary, we can say that the old export versions of the ZRPK are not of particular interest to the Pentagon.

The experience of the Syrian and Libyan campaigns was taken into account in the modernization of the "Shell", which should be completed at the end of 2021. New radar equipment, new anti-aircraft missiles will be installed, the ammunition of the complex will be increased. The air defense missile system will be adapted to counter small-sized high-speed attack drones. For this, a small-sized and inexpensive anti-aircraft missile is being developed. Against serious targets, "Pantsir" received a hypersonic missile capable of reaching speeds of more than Mach 5, explained one of the creators of the air defense missile system Valery Slugin:

The speed is needed in order to quickly fly up to the target - this increases the rate of fire of the complex, because the firing channel is released faster. In addition, it is not necessary to put a lot of explosives in the warhead of the rocket to scatter the fragments: the higher the impact speed, the higher the efficiency of the fragments.

Such an updated anti-aircraft complex can really be of interest to competitors and potential opponents. By the way, the United Arab Emirates in 2019 placed an order for the further modernization of the Pantsir-C1 air defense missile system in Russia.
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  1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 30 January 2021 14: 12
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    our military uses an automobile platform from KAMAZ and BAZ and tracks from MZKT.
    Why only caterpillars then?))
    1. Gennady1959 Offline Gennady1959
      Gennady1959 (Gennady) 30 January 2021 15: 42
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      The competence of the authors is simply off scale. In fact, MZKT stands for Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant. They do not produce tracked vehicles there. It was on the MZKT tractors that the Topol mobile missile systems were mounted since the times of the USSR. In the 2000s, Lukashenka tried to blackmail Russia with the supply of trucks (AHL quote "Russians don't have enough intelligence to develop such equipment ..."). After that, Russia developed and began producing its own tractors at KAMAZ and in Bryansk. With such friends (not to confuse the AHL and the Belarusian people) and enemies are not needed.
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      2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 31 January 2021 08: 58
        +1
        Friends, I was a little mistaken with the "caterpillars". I looked at one text, thought about another, wrote a third. Don't be too harsh. smile
        1. Solomon Offline Solomon
          Solomon (alexey salomon) 13 March 2021 19: 05
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          How to check it is possible before sending for publication ... Not professional and disrespectful to readers ... And this is not the first time
    2. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 30 January 2021 16: 43
      -3
      MZKT supplies Russia with only multi-wheeled chassis! Dear, read what you write about!
  2. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 30 January 2021 15: 03
    +1
    He has already helped - the image is nothing.
  3. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 30 January 2021 15: 31
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    The fact that the author is silent about the fact that the Shells were burned in Syria also means that they were less burned there than in Libya?

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    2. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 30 January 2021 15: 51
      +6
      But why are you yelling that Russia is about to attack the Pistonsky farm?
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      2. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 31 January 2021 23: 13
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        Quote: The Fourth Horseman
        But why are you yelling that Russia is about to attack the Pistonsky farm?

        Give an example of who and when? You are a victim of Putin's propaganda.
        I can even tell you how they do it. Someone alone we have something like that may blurt out. One, do you understand? And Putin's media on all TV channels, in all newspapers and on the Internet will trumpet it.
        Well, I won't point a finger at you to the rams, that's enough to believe.
        I do not believe that the Russian Federation can attack. NATO is not Georgia or Ukraine.
        And there is no reason. Why attack? What are the benefits of this? And there is no point in attacking Russia. All that needs to be sold.
        By the way, the Farm as a farm is more productive than your KOLKHOZ, This is also necessary to know.
        People willingly buy and live in farms. And how are you doing on collective farms?
        1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
          Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 1 February 2021 06: 01
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          Khutor, he is a khutor.))
          Farmer thinking = poor mind.
          That you are wonderful and prove. Victim of the gay lobby and Soros propaganda.
          Offended for your habitat?))
          Be patient! be tolerant to the end.
          You crawled here yourself, you throw it on the fan, and you yourself are offended. # aNaStoRaSh? !! - classic!))
    3. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 31 January 2021 21: 21
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      The fact that the author is silent about the fact that the Shells were burned in Syria also means that they were less burned there than in Libya?

      Apparently the author is not ready to spread Erdogan's deliberate nonsense and lies.

      The main forces and means of air defense of the Syrian armed forces, including "Pantsir", according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, were and remain concentrated, first of all, on the cover of the Syrian capital of Damascus.

      "The units of the Syrian armed forces in the area of ​​the de-escalation zone of Idlib covered only 4" Pantsir "complexes. As a result of the massive attacks of Turkish attack drones, two Syrian" Pantsir "air defense missile systems were damaged. Their restoration is currently being completed," the Russian Defense Ministry stressed.

      Recall, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Tuesday that the Turkish Armed Forces destroyed 8 Syrian "Shells" in Idlib with the help of drones.

      https://rg.ru/2020/03/10/minoborony-v-sirii-povrezhdeny-dva-panciria-a-ne-unichtozheny-vosem.html

      PS At the same time, the Turkish mercenaries and the Turkish Armed Forces were unable to achieve the goals set by Erdogan, having lost up to a third of the remaining Idlib territory during the battles ...
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 31 January 2021 23: 23
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        Quote: Ulysses
        PS At the same time, the Turkish mercenaries and the Turkish Armed Forces could not achieve the goals set by Erdogan, having lost up to a third of the territory of Idlib that remained behind them during the battles ...

        Turkey achieved its goal there. They did not allow Assad and the Russian Federation to completely cleanse Idlib of the opposition. You should know better what plans the Russian Federation and Assad had at the beginning of last year, if you are trying to express something here. Although how people in the Russian Federation are fed information is not a secret for me.
        The goal was complete and final, but Turkey launched Operation Spring Shield. Assad's troops, with the support of the Russian Federation, were not ready to face the modern army. We got used to the enemy without the Air Force, Air Defense and UAVs. The sacrifices were terrible.
        there are losses of iron and soldiers
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESGXfvxWoAA3_jK?format=jpg&name=900x900
        there are losses of officers
        https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1235827714675716097
        1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
          Ulysses (Alexey) 31 January 2021 23: 54
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          Turkey achieved its goal there. They did not allow Assad and the Russian Federation to completely cleanse Idlib of the opposition. You should know better what plans the Russian Federation and Assad had at the beginning of last year, if you are trying to express something here. Although how people in the Russian Federation are fed information is not a secret for me.
          The goal was complete and final, but Turkey launched Operation Spring Shield. Assad's troops, with the support of the Russian Federation, were not ready to face the modern army. We got used to the enemy without the Air Force, Air Defense and UAVs. The sacrifices were terrible.
          there are losses of iron and soldiers
          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESGXfvxWoAA3_jK?format=jpg&name=900x900
          there are losses of officers
          https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1235827714675716097

          Crap.
          (About the alleged plans of Assad and the Russian Federation)

          The original goal of Turkey and its Idlib "clients" was to stupidly expand the territory
          However, the operation failed initially.
          The Syrians grinded the small detachments of "especially greyhounds" and proceeded to systematically clean up the territory.
          Turkish checkpoints (some of them) quickly found themselves far behind the lines of the Syrian army.

          Then the undersultan got very angry and ordered his askers to intervene.
          Both on foot and unmanned.
          And there were three days of nervousness, until the normal air defense was pulled up.
          After that, the sky cleared, and Erdogan abruptly rushed to Moscow for negotiations.

          And the Idlib enclave of "proturkov" was reduced to a quarter of the start of the "victorious offensive".

          PS Do you sometimes look at the maps of military operations in Syria. smile
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 1 February 2021 00: 11
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            Quote: Ulysses
            The original goal of Turkey and its Idlib "clients" was to stupidly expand the territory

            I watched that war day after day. I almost put the flags, and you told me here. I still remember what happened and how. The prelude to that war is already in the 4th quarter of 2019.
            1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
              Ulysses (Alexey) 1 February 2021 00: 24
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              Stop talking nonsense. What I wrote is true.

              I still remember what happened and how. The prelude to that war is already in the 4th quarter of 2019.

              Another "Bana girl" from Aleppo?

              Check with your flags the results of that pro-Turkish fiasco in Idlib. wink


              For especially advanced Estonian guys, light green is all that is now left of Idlib after the last adventure of the pro-Turkish forces.
              1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                Vladest (Vladimir) 1 February 2021 09: 03
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                Quote: Ulysses
                For especially advanced Estonian guys, light green is all that is now left of Idlib after the last adventure of the pro-Turkish forces.

                Thank you, otherwise I was too lazy. Here is your map, where you can clearly see the result of the offensive of the pro-Assad forces. And what is left there, light green, is just the result of Operation Spring Shield.
                According to the plans, Idlib was to be cleaned out all. And it would have been. But the Spring Shield.
                Although you have a chance to excuse yourself and tell me where and when Turkey launched an offensive at the moment as shown on the map. Or you are a liar.
                The map shows the position of forces according to the Russian - Turkish treaty. Do you even know about this? When the offensive of Asdas and the Russian Federation began on Idlib, the Turkish observation posts were not touched, but simply bypassed. Seeing that the opposition will soon be defeated there and there is no sense in observation points, Turkey decided to use force for force.
                So when and where did Turkey start advancing? The map is in your hands.
        2. shinobi Offline shinobi
          shinobi (Yuri) 4 March 2021 10: 11
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          Oooh! Twitter we now have the evidence base! This is after so many revelations and outright lies !?
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  5. Semyon Semyonov_2 (Semyon Semyonov) 31 January 2021 19: 02
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    Although they did not suffer damage, it is necessary to take something away from the amers.
    Eye for an eye.)