No hookah bars, no furniture for hundreds of millions: video from "Putin's palace" exposed Navalny's investigation


The organization of the Russian oppositionist and blogger Alexei Navalny, the FBK (Anti-Corruption Foundation), published a YouTube movie about “Putin's palace”, which gained many views and was widely publicized in the world media. However, a journalist from the Telegram channel Mash exposed the opposition's "investigation" by showing a more detailed footage of the object.


According to the channel's author, near the "palace" there is no front entrance with a large gate and a two-headed eagle. All that luxury, which was described in Navalny's video, is missing - there is no luxurious furniture for hundreds of millions of rubles, no hookah bars, or much more.

The location is quite simple to describe - it's one big concrete. In fact, everything is at the zero stage of construction.

- said the author of the video exposing the "investigation" of the disgraced blogger.

According to the builders, the object will be completed only in five to six years.


Earlier, the Russian president noted that no palace belongs to him, and he does not have any luxurious real estate, which was discussed in the film by Alexei Navalny. Putin's press secretary Dmitry Peskov said that the owners of the "palace" are known, but their names will not be publicly disclosed for reasons of correctness. The Putin administration stressed that it was known in advance about information provocations and pseudo disclosures against the head of the Russian Federation.
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  1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 January 2021 13: 35
    -9
    Well, firstly, it is not shown that this is exactly the palace, shooting mainly inside the building (you can shoot anything like that). Secondly, if they really want to make a refutation, why not do it on the central channels, and not semi-underground? Take off everything, show it on all central channels, but they don't. Why? As I see this situation, there is just a great desire to somehow refute Navalny's video, but there is no way.
    1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 29 January 2021 13: 54
      +10
      Well, firstly, it is not shown that this is exactly the palace, the shooting is mainly inside the building ... just a great desire to somehow refute Navalny's video, but there is no way.

      And the photographs from the inside and the diagram of the building presented by Navalny are a priori true and do not need proof? Why aren't you questioning his investigation? Maybe those photos aren't from there at all? How disgusting and disgusting are your double standards ...
      1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 January 2021 14: 11
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        Quote: Kristallovich
        How vile and disgusting your double standards are.

        What double standards do you mean? Personally, I don't see any double standards. I'm just stating the facts and that's it. So to say thoughts out loud and if they do not coincide with yours, this does not mean double standards.
        1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
          Kristallovich (Ruslan) 29 January 2021 14: 21
          +5
          I'm just stating the facts and that's it.

          That is, Navalny's investigation is a fact for you, but the video above is questionable? Yes, everything is clear with you. I also didn't spend my time on bulk ...
          1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
            Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 January 2021 14: 43
            -5
            Navalny's investigation is a fact and this investigation is also a fact (theoretically), you need to compare the facts and not blindly believe. Putin also beat himself on the chest a lot and promised and lied, but I believed and it turned out to be not true. Or here's another one, too, sort of like a fact. You called me navalnenkom this is a vile lie and slander *, I declare to you with full responsibility.

            * Slander - knowingly false defamatory information or dissemination of knowingly false information that discredits the honor and dignity of another person or undermines his reputation.
          2. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
            Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 29 January 2021 17: 25
            -2
            You are by type: I have not read but condemn?
        2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) 30 January 2021 19: 27
          -1
          Tell the facts? Well then, provide scans of documents!
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 29 January 2021 13: 56
      +4
      Well, firstly, it is not shown that this is exactly the palace, shooting mainly inside the building (you can shoot anything like that).

      Do you want it to fly from above?

      Secondly, if they really want to make a refutation, why not do it on the central channels, and not semi-underground? Take off everything, show it on all central channels, but they don't. Why?

      What for? Read the comments under the video on YouTube, they don't believe their eyes, they write this video confirms Sisyan's words. They have at least a stake on their heads.

      As I see this situation, there is just a great desire to somehow refute Navalny's video, but there is no way.

      This is how I see the situation, a person has an opportunity, he took pictures and he does not look like Kiselev. Just watch what kind of video there is on the channel.
      1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 January 2021 14: 19
        -4
        Quote: 123
        Do you want it to fly from above?

        I want to make a normal rebuttal, I split in two. One half of me believes in Putin (who says that he’s not his, but who has lied to the whole country more than once), and my other half believes Lesha (whom I hate after the false poisoning, but I watch his revelations) Well, if Putin is afraid to file against Lesha in the court for libel (probably pity him) then ordered the TV crew to make a normal refutation, and then everyone would see Navalny liar. And this does not happen, but a kind of semi-underground action takes place. You have to face the truth.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 14: 39
          +2
          Well, if Putin is afraid to sue Lesha for libel (he probably regrets him), then he ordered the TV crew to make a normal refutation, and then everyone would see Navalny a liar. And this does not happen, but a kind of semi-underground action takes place. You have to face the truth.

          Just looked at the rebuttal. There are a number of questions:
          1) why the denials were made not by the federal media, which are responsible for their work, but by a certain blogger? Which somehow got to the super-guarded facility?
          2) why was the footage filmed for only 3 minutes in an hour?
          3) why do most of the shots from the inside not have an adequate reference to the place, as it should be done when shooting? Well, so that everyone understands that this was filmed from the inside in that building, and not in the neighboring one under construction.
          Finally, why was there such a lag of time per week between exposure and refutation, which gives skeptics reason to believe that something could have been dismantled? And the oppositionist himself bluntly said that because of mold, everything is being redone now. Why, instead of a video blogger I personally did not know, TV journalists from federal media, preferably with representatives of independent foreign publications, did not visit there?
          1. vvnab Offline vvnab
            vvnab (Vitali) 29 January 2021 14: 49
            -1
            After the phrase about "stage zero" I stopped watching. Some kind of kindergarten ... If this is a commission (which looks like the truth), then the current government will definitely soon be a khan. To issue a "refutation" of such a low level is still to try! )
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 29 January 2021 15: 09
              +1
              If this is a commission (which looks like the truth), then the current government will definitely soon be a khan.

              And if the authorities have nothing to do with this?
              1. vvnab Offline vvnab
                vvnab (Vitali) 29 January 2021 16: 31
                0
                Very unlikely. Who let them go there? The territory is under the protection of the FSB, no one denies this + a lot of evidence from local residents and tourists that the territory is specially protected.
                1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
                  Just a cat (Bayun) 29 January 2021 17: 01
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                  The Federal Security Service (FSO) stated that there are no objects under its protection in the Gelendzhik area. This was reported on Wednesday by the RBC edition with reference to the department.

                  https://tass.ru/obschestvo/10555721
                  1. vvnab Offline vvnab
                    vvnab (Vitali) 29 January 2021 18: 18
                    0
                    FSO is not FSB
                    And the secret services are not obliged to provide such information.
                2. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 29 January 2021 17: 09
                  +2
                  Very unlikely. Who let them go there? The territory is under the protection of the FSB, no one denies this + a lot of evidence from local residents and tourists that the territory is specially protected.

                  I don’t know about the security, I didn’t delve into it. They say on Sunday they promise to broadcast on "Russia". In general, I also suggest that you return to the discussion on Monday. hi
        2. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 29 January 2021 15: 07
          +5
          I want to make a normal rebuttal, I split. One half of me believes in Putin (who says that he’s not his, but who has lied to the whole country more than once), and my other half believes Lesha (whom I hate after the false poisoning, but I watch his revelations)

          Do you want a normal refutation of this film from Navalny's friends?
          Maybe they don't consider it necessary to jump around Xisian's creations? What to shoot now? Tooth for tooth, series for series? If it's not a secret what Putin lied?

          Well, if Putin is afraid to sue Lesha for libel (he probably regrets him), then he ordered the TV crew to make a normal refutation, and then everyone would see Navalny a liar.

          Maybe he doesn't want to stoop to that? The President is in litigation with the German Six ... The majority sees it that way. The "split" let them remove the refutation for themselves.
          1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
            Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 January 2021 15: 36
            -4
            Quote: 123
            Do you want a normal refutation of this film from Navalny's friends?

            I repeat once again, I do not belong to any camp. Putin and Navalny are not nice to me, to put it mildly (this is very soft). I am an outside observer (like a judge) and the main thing is FACTS. Facts are a stubborn thing, and while the ball is on Lesha's side. Putin's side is trying to betray something, but so far something has not worked out, except for a miserable hum. Believe me, I really want there to be a firm refutation and I want Novalny to be sued for libel and sanitized for big money, but this is not observed. and the question immediately arises. Why??? request

            Quote: 123
            Maybe he doesn't want to stoop to that? The President is suing the German Six ...

            Maybe he doesn't want to, but he sank so low that there is nowhere lower. People living in poverty want to know where the huge funds went? Here Putin responsibly told us that while the president he would not touch the retirement age, then he lowered his head and said there is no money, we will increase the retirement age. And he did not index pensions and there is a lot of things, there is no money (for us). In such a very difficult situation (for the president), he is simply obliged to clear his good, honest name (spitting on all prejudices) Otherwise, the people have certain preconditions
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 29 January 2021 15: 58
              +2
              And I am not calling you to any camp.

              Facts are a stubborn thing, and while the ball is on Lesha's side.

              Are you sure these are facts?

              Believe me, I really want there to be a firm refutation and I want Novalny to be sued for libel and sanitized for big money, but this is not observed. and the question immediately arises. Why???

              Naturally, I cannot know for sure, the question is a little to the wrong address, but I can share the version. Sisyan is probably being used as an irritant. Provoke a harsh reaction.

              Maybe he doesn't want to, but he sank so low that there is nowhere lower.

              An interesting statement. Justification will be?

              People living in poverty want to know where the huge funds went?

              I am quite satisfied with this "poverty" and about "the people want to know" is this what you say according to the results of the poll or what? For example, I don't give a damn about it, am I not a people? How old are you, forgive your curiosity? I mean that "poverty" is a relative concept. Look at your leisure hi



              Putin said to us responsibly that while he was the president he would not touch the retirement age, then he lowered his head and said there was no money, the retirement age would be increased.

              For example, in my childhood I remember saying that I was not going to marry, Life makes adjustments.

              And he did not index pensions and there is a lot of things, there is no money (for us).

              When was it not indexed? More details? I'm not saying that pensioners are in chocolate, but at least a little bit, they still index pensions. And tell me what you have not given money for (for you). Really curious.

              In such a very difficult situation (for the president), he is simply obliged to clear his good, honest name (spitting on all prejudices) Otherwise, the people have certain preconditions

              Do you find this situation difficult? Some kind of you, in my opinion, of course, a kind of idea about life. Are you by any chance kept in greenhouse conditions?
              1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
                Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 January 2021 16: 25
                -5
                Quote: 123
                Are you sure these are facts?

                I am 100% sure that these are the facts. The facts either confirm or deny. There is no third.

                Quote: 123
                Sisyan is probably being used as an irritant. Provoke a harsh reaction.

                This can be seen with an unarmed look that Leshenka is fulfilling someone's order (maybe we will find out later) That's what a tough refutation is needed for. To drag him around the courts and sand him for very big money and he will not raise his tail anymore. so I propose to spit on prejudices for our President and sue. And the main thing is that the president does not have to do anything, just give the huge army of lawyers the command of the face, and that's it.

                Quote: 123
                An interesting statement. Justification will be?

                Well, what kind of justification is still needed when everyone around is just talking about it. I think this is already clear.

                Quote: 123
                I mean that "poverty" is a relative concept. Look at your leisure

                Relative is for sure. You know what I call Moscow. An oasis of prosperity in the middle of the desert of poverty and misery of the rest of our country.

                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 29 January 2021 17: 04
                  0
                  I am 100% sure that these are the facts. The facts either confirm or deny. There is no third.

                  I am beginning to think that you are an extremely naive person. Here the mention came across, on Sunday they announce a show on this issue, the channel Russia. I guess we should come back to this question on Monday. hi

                  To drag him around the courts and sand him for very big money and he will not raise his tail anymore. so I propose to spit on prejudices for our President and sue. And the main thing is that the president does not have to do anything, just give the huge army of lawyers the command of the face, and that's it.

                  Did it ever occur to you that he doesn't want to give the command to face? There can be many reasons. For example, it doesn't make much sense. They will start filming what kind of tyrant he is, and they will nominate the next one to replace Sisyan and history will repeat itself.

                  Well, what kind of justification is still needed when everyone around is just talking about it. I think this is already clear.

                  I don’t know, they don’t say that around me. Maybe your social circle is so specific? Maybe you yourself went down there? For example, nothing like that is clear to me.

                  Relative is for sure. You know what I call Moscow. An oasis of prosperity in the middle of the desert of poverty and misery of the rest of our country.

                  So what is the poverty behind the Moscow Ring Road? They did not answer about age. I suspect that they have not tried to work yet. Do you know many countries with a standard of living as in Moscow? It feels like it's about you.



                  If it's not a secret in which region do you live? I can't say that we have, for example, poverty and misery all around, my tongue does not turn
                  Need work? Come on over.
                  http://job.dznhmao.ru/statistics/index

                  I looked at the video, not convincingly. No. It starts with the screams of some aunt that she does not have enough money. In my opinion, these are just words, "entourage" does not have confidence. Somewhere out there she has no wallpaper, so show me .. Next comes about loans. It happened to know people who are gaining loans without measure, it comes to the point that they take a new one in order to pay off the old one. At the same time, the woman says that her husband's salary is 30, she is silent about her. In my opinion, this is not really about poverty.
                  In the end, the men on the blockade, it is very likely that they "think for three" drinking juice (and apparently not only), smoke cigarettes, rummage in a smartphone and with laziness declare so "authoritatively" - poverty and the government is to blame for everything.
                  1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
                    Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 January 2021 17: 50
                    -5
                    Quote: 123
                    I am beginning to think that you are an extremely naive person.

                    Are you a dreamer lol I love people with a sense of humor and fantasies, it's not so boring to live with them lol

                    Quote: 123
                    Here the mention came across, on Sunday they announce a show on this issue, the channel Russia. I guess we should come back to this question on Monday.

                    Oh how. And here in this thread they write that they are already showing the plot on federal channels, but I naively believed (you were right, although not to the extreme lol ) It turns out they will only show. Well, let's see, let's see how our valiant journalists of federal channels will roll Navalny (it is not for nothing that they receive large fees on television)

                    Quote: 123
                    Did it ever occur to you that he doesn't want to give the command face?

                    You see, there are different things, "does not want" or "cannot" It is necessary to determine from the beginning.
                    Doesn't want to clear his good, honest name or can't. And I think this is essential.

                    Quote: 123
                    Well, I don't know, they don't say that around me. Maybe your social circle is so specific?

                    I understand that you are from Moscow. since you don't say that. And all the surroundings outside the Moscow Ring Road you have specific, it seems like the proto-people live there, the natives survive and all the videos about how they survive are not true, because we do not have all that.
                    As I understand it, you have direct blind faith in our president, you don’t want to listen to anything against and believe anything. I personally do not respect Putin (for his empty promises and his talking shop) and Navalny (for the fact that he sold himself to the West with giblets, this can be seen not with an armed eye and in every possible way, according to their decree, wants to arrange a Maidan with us)

                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 29 January 2021 17: 57
                      +3
                      Doesn't want to clear his good, honest name or can't. And I think this is essential.

                      Let's wait until Monday hi

                      I understand that you are from Moscow. since you don't say that. And all the surroundings outside the Moscow Ring Road you have specific, it seems like the proto-people live there, the natives survive and all the videos about how they survive are not true, because we do not have all that.

                      I gave a link there in the previous comment about work, look, the region is indicated there yes

                      As I understand it, you have direct blind faith in our president, you don’t want to listen to anything against and believe anything.

                      What do you belay Blind faith is not about me. I prefer facts, analysis, and so on. So far, "solitaire" does not add up.

                      I personally do not respect Putin (for his empty promises and his talking shop) and Navalny (for the fact that he sold himself to the West with giblets, this can be seen not with an armed eye and in every possible way, according to their decree, wants to arrange a Maidan with us)

                      This is your personal opinion and your views on the surrounding reality. hi Which, however, does not mean that everyone thinks so, or that you are necessarily right. hi
                  2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                    A.Lex (Secret information) 30 January 2021 19: 35
                    -1
                    Damn, 123, for him fake is a FACT !!! What else can you talk to him about ???
              2. gore Offline gore
                gore (Alexander) 30 January 2021 05: 56
                +3
                123, you always ask one question to such accusers of Putin in such cases: "What did Putin do wrong for YOU?"
                Believe me, "face to face", the reaction is fantastic. A person immediately turns into a ram, a goat, a cow and begins to bleat and bellow, without giving ANY ARGUMENT.
                Checked dozens of times on different age groups ...
            2. Chee rock Offline Chee rock
              Chee rock (Vladimir) 29 January 2021 19: 06
              +4
              Quote: Athenogen
              Facts are a stubborn thing, and while the ball is on Lesha's side.

              Honestly, I didn't watch the whole movie, it took me about 7 minutes in the middle, where in 7 minutes:
              - on the tunnel, which in the plan is an underwater tunnel, they circled the passage of the tunnel under the water and told me that it was a pier - a window in the mountain, where the "tasting" one. Moreover, if you superimpose a plan, a circle and a real topographic photograph, then the very window is in a completely different place;
              - another plan is immediately laid out, which is definitely "left" for one simple reason that it does not correspond to the first plan "top view";
              - the belonging of the object to the presidential administration is proved by a plate on the fence, and on this plate, like an owl on a globe, a contract for the construction of a real facility is stretched, but in a completely different place - in the center of Sochi. And the further construction of evidence is built literally on the principles "it's written on the fence!" You know, lying three times in 7 minutes is somehow too much. can you imagine how much lies there in 2 hours ?.
        3. shinobi Offline shinobi
          shinobi (Yuri) 30 January 2021 00: 56
          +1
          Ask two questions: Why was Sisyan released (with two criminals), and why was he allowed back? The screams that officials and even more so Vovan are afraid of him is bullshit and as an argument is not accepted. And yes, you say Putin lied. And you never I don’t believe. And yes I will disappoint you-The world of human relations was originally built on mutual deception and mistrust. And here's the consequence of this-Most of all they distrust an absolutely honest person.
    3. zloybond Offline zloybond
      zloybond (steppenwolf) 29 January 2021 19: 43
      +4
      Don't beat around the bush. In the Krk region, every dog ​​knows that this house was being built almost from the time of Tkachev. The entrance is almost free there. Theme from the finger sucker. The object is not completed and will be built for a long time. I think this topic for Navalnyashkam, so that later they will go into a puddle well. To celebrate, they were not particularly fooled when they molded a fairy tale.
  2. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 29 January 2021 13: 49
    +3
    Ay how bad it turned out No. But what about now to be empty-headed gullible leming? We have been told so much about the poles and gold brushes. I look forward to the exposure of Putin's propagandists smile Where are you unbending fighters against the regime? smile
  3. Drinevsky A. Offline Drinevsky A.
    Drinevsky A. (Andrei) 29 January 2021 13: 52
    +5
    Lucid and convincing. I always suspected the petty essence of the bulk.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 14: 45
      -3
      Navalny is an extremely murky character. But it is not video bloggers who should refute his "investigations", but the federal media and investigators with attesting witnesses.
      1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 29 January 2021 14: 53
        +6
        But it is not video bloggers who should refute his "investigations", but the federal media

        Navalny's "investigation" was denied first by Peskov, and then by Putin personally.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 15: 19
          0
          Art. 51 of the Constitution. smile
          1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
            Kristallovich (Ruslan) 29 January 2021 15: 21
            +3
            Do you decide what you want? I wanted a refutation on federal channels, so it was.
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 15: 22
              +3
              In the country, many listen to Navalny, it is not enough to refute in words, it is also desirable to show it in the presence of the media and respected people. That is, we are not talking about refutation, but about convincing confirmation of the falsity of the accusations.
              What's the problem? We arrived, walked through all the rooms, saw if there was an underground box, etc. If not, the question is closed. Then Navalny is brought to court for libel. Let him sit.
              I look at the matter from the perspective of a lawyer and a former investigator. Am I wrong?
              1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
                Kristallovich (Ruslan) 29 January 2021 15: 33
                +3
                Am I wrong?

                Wrong. Imagine if in Germany someone suddenly “found” Merkel's undeclared real estate. Nobody would go there to publicly show that this is not so. Just an official denial of her administration would be released and that's it.
                1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                  Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 15: 36
                  -1
                  If such assets of Merkel were found in Germany, the political opposition would take up her, a trial would begin, true or not, with an unknown ending for her. She would not have gotten off with one "refutation".
                  RF is not Germany. We have no real opposition, so the United States is putting pressure on the government through a non-systemic one like Navalny.
                  1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
                    Kristallovich (Ruslan) 29 January 2021 15: 39
                    +2
                    it would be taken up by the political opposition

                    What does the opposition have to do with it? I'm talking about the reaction of the federal authorities.

                    She would not have gotten off with one "refutation".

                    Sorry, but I have more competence in the FRG issue.
                    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                      Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 15: 40
                      -2
                      There was nothing to talk about.
                      1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
                        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 29 January 2021 15: 52
                        +3
                        You just write without knowing the information. I will briefly explain what it would be like in Germany.

                        Some blogger claims that Merkel has undeclared property. After a day or two, and even then, if the case had a wide resonance, the Chancellor's press secretary makes a statement of refutation. Merkel herself would not comment on this situation at all. This question would be closed. If we imagine that the opposition would have demanded an investigation, then the maximum that would have happened is a non-public check by the tax authorities, followed by the submission of reports to interested deputies.
                      2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                        Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 16: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Kristallovich
                        Some blogger claims that Merkel has undeclared property. A day or two later, the Chancellor's press secretary makes a statement of denial. Merkel herself would not comment on this situation at all. This question would be closed. If we imagine that the opposition would have demanded an investigation, then the maximum that would have happened is a non-public audit of the tax authorities with the subsequent submission of reports to interested MPs.

                        This only confirms my thesis that the RF is not the FRG. I did not see the contradictions here written by me.
                        P.S. If the Kremlin believes that a video from a video blogger is enough to dispel the doubts of millions of people, this is their right. But they also have to deal with the consequences of this approach. That's all.
                      3. Bitter Offline Bitter
                        Bitter (Gleb) 29 January 2021 23: 33
                        +2
                        ... subsequent submission of reports to interested MPs.

                        You want to say that in Germany someone can slander an official state person and everything will end with some kind of "reports" without any return? Well, well, an optimist. laughing
                      4. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
                        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 30 January 2021 11: 25
                        -1
                        You want to say that in Germany someone can slander an official state person and everything will end with some kind of "reports" without any return? Well, well, an optimist. laughing

                        I didn't say anything about the consequences at all.
                      5. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                        A.Lex (Secret information) 30 January 2021 19: 43
                        -1
                        You and Gleb have no contradictions. You complement each other.
                    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                      A.Lex (Secret information) 30 January 2021 19: 42
                      -1
                      You are only complementing Ruslan (in which I agree with you).
  • Drinevsky A. Offline Drinevsky A.
    Drinevsky A. (Andrei) 29 January 2021 15: 10
    +5
    Already on all federal channels this video is shown. Navalny sat in a puddle. There is no more him as a politician. He is a political corpse.
    1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
      Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 January 2021 15: 46
      -5
      Quote: Drinevsky A.
      Already on all federal channels this video is shown.

      I honestly admit that I haven't seen the video on federal channels yet. but here's the question. Why is the blogger's video from YouTube shown on the federal channel ??? The federal channels have such a huge army of reporters and journalists that it is scary to imagine. Make them a normal high-quality report and that's it, consider a refutation. However, they play a video of a simple blogger. (if twisted)
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 29 January 2021 20: 12
        -1
        Why is the blogger's video from YouTube shown on the federal channel ???

        Blogger versus blogger.
        Too much attention is paid to Navalny's fake.
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 30 January 2021 19: 44
      0
      And he was a CORPSE, whose spirit they sometimes try to evoke in the Russian Federation ... it doesn't matter where and who.
  • 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 29 January 2021 15: 11
    +5
    Navalny is an extremely murky character. But it is not video bloggers who should refute his "investigations", but the federal media and investigators with attesting witnesses.

    How long has such a procedure been established? If I'm not mistaken, they recently filmed about Mishustin, and 3 years ago there was something else about Putin's dacha. I don’t remember the reaction you described.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 15: 24
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      How long has such a procedure been established? If I'm not mistaken, they recently filmed about Mishustin, and 3 years ago there was something else about Putin's dacha. I don’t remember the reaction you described.

      That is why such "revelations" appear, that there is no corresponding reaction. It is necessary to refute so that people believe. Otherwise, sediment remains.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 29 January 2021 15: 28
        +5
        That is why such "revelations" appear, that there is no corresponding reaction. It is necessary to refute so that people believe. Otherwise, sediment remains.

        If this has been removed for years, and you all believe, can you try to remove the sediment in a different way?
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 15: 31
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          Quote: 123
          If this has been removed for years, and you all believe, can you try to remove the sediment in a different way?

          Did I say that I believe? I am familiar with the presumption of innocence, and I am not a supporter of Navalny from the word "absolutely". Navalny accused, presented some facts, which means that it would be nice to refute them so that there is no doubt. How - I wrote above.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 29 January 2021 15: 42
            +2
            presented some facts

            In my opinion, this is somewhat exaggerated.
            Bad, not bad ... To be honest, I don't care. Even if he was resting in this hut. The man is not married, let him frolic. laughing There is plenty of inaccessibility for the president, government and others. One more, one less. The reasoning to have this particular object is doubtful. In general, I am not worried about this.
      2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 30 January 2021 19: 45
        -1
        Believe ... not believe .... it's a matter of religion.
  • Chee rock Offline Chee rock
    Chee rock (Vladimir) 29 January 2021 19: 09
    +2
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Navalny is an extremely murky character. But it is not video bloggers who should refute his "investigations", but the federal media and investigators with attesting witnesses.

    Why on earth? Now, if he had brought at least one of his "investigation" to investigative actions, then - yes, definitely. Conducting an investigation on every video of every blogger in the world - the police around the world will not be enough.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 30 January 2021 07: 31
      -1
      Excuse me, but how should a private person bring their "investigations" to investigative actions? This is not his competence. He depends on him to present some facts and ask them to consider them as an appeal to law enforcement agencies.
      And not over here demagoguery about all bloggers and all the videos of the world. We are talking about specific facts regarding a narrow circle of people.
      1. Chee rock Offline Chee rock
        Chee rock (Vladimir) 19 March 2021 16: 49
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        Quote: Marzhetsky
        Excuse me, but how should a private person bring their "investigations" to investigative actions? This is not his competence. He depends on him to present some facts and ask them to consider them as an appeal to law enforcement agencies.
        And not over here demagoguery about all bloggers and all the videos of the world. We are talking about specific facts regarding a narrow circle of people.

        An individual or a public organization comes to the UK and writes a statement about the facts of violation, on the basis of the statement a case is opened. FBK not only did not bring a single "investigation" of its own to a criminal case, but lost almost all courts in libel cases. According to the inscription on the fence "Vasya -" a case is not started. There are many fences in the country and many people write on them, most of them make mistakes.
        By sabzh: in just seven minutes of the film, I found three facts of outright deception and two facts of direct forgery of documents. How? How, having such fierce funding, it is possible to shoot such blatant misinformation that cannot withstand 10 minutes of checks ?!
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 29 January 2021 14: 14
    -7
    Awful.
    Videos and photos of the same palace in 2011 are on YouTube and in the internet. Fairly finished. Both the fountain and the entrance are recognizable ...
    What have they, "piled up", done with him for 11 years? Why were the walls ripped apart?
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 29 January 2021 15: 19
      +1
      Awful.
      Videos and photos of the same palace in 2011 are on YouTube and in the internet. Fairly finished. Both the fountain and the entrance are recognizable ...
      What have they, "piled up", done with him for 11 years? Why were the walls ripped apart?

      Here Putin's propagandists write ...

      Amphitheater in an extensive coastal residence undergoing renovations. Construction has been underway for the past 15 years, but the overhaul is still ongoing.

      And in the photo taken from the outside, there are traces of construction, and there are all kinds of excavators.

      https://rus.azattyq.org/a/photos-of-palace-allegedly-belonging-to-russian-president-vladimir-putin/31055979.html
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 29 January 2021 19: 00
        -1
        Terrible. 5 minutes video, 3 minutes viscera,
        One has repairs, another has repairs, the insides are ripped apart, excavators are standing ...
        11 years have passed, long-term construction ... or long-term construction

        and since it is unknown who, then no one should be put in prison ...
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 29 January 2021 19: 11
          +3
          Long-term long-term construction, who is the owner? If a private owner, why are you going to plant? What a tyrant you are. After all, there are other methods laughing

          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 29 January 2021 20: 06
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            Absolutely true.
            Ononym is a participant, Ononym is a builder, Ononym is a launcher, whom should we plant? Nothing to do with it.
            Just think, for 11 years everything has rotted and everything has fallen apart, as in the video ...

            Assad (supposedly) will endure everything, a lot of money ...
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 29 January 2021 20: 28
              +2
              That Assad is already in business? belay laughing
              1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 29 January 2021 22: 54
                -1
                So next article.
                It's strange that they didn't visit ...

                In general, it all fits. Few can slowly build a palace since the 2000s ....
  • Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
    Kristallovich (Ruslan) 29 January 2021 14: 58
    +2
    You need to be a man of "great mind" to believe in "Putin's palace". This whole story does not withstand even the most primitive question - why? Why does Putin need a 17-square-foot castle? What will a lonely man do there? Such palaces do not even build themselves families of the mighty of this world, for there is simply no need. This is unnecessary, especially for a single person. I understand if they would find Putin's standard mansion by the standards of the Russian elite, 2-3 thousand square meters - one could still believe it. And this one is like a third of the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg in terms of area.
    1. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 29 January 2021 16: 03
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      Ruslan, Sergey, Dmitry! Hello everyone! Do you want to relax? My son has a house in Stepanovsky, 15 km across N. Riga. They took it at the end of 2008, that is, at the very peak of prices. Lemon almost bucks, with all the minced meat, a developer from Dagestan, Kazbek. Part in cash, part on credit. The loan was closed last year. In the same village, the former SNT, a foreigner, like a Syrian, bought ten plots (owners, doctors of GKB 62), muddied three palaces !!!
      Well, what, muddied the discussion? drinks
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 16: 06
        -2
        Well, what, muddied the discussion?

        And you, sorry, who?
        Why do you think your persona should be of interest to someone? Are you a civil servant or a people's choice?
        1. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 29 January 2021 16: 29
          +2
          Well, I never guessed it, a simple Soviet pensioner, if it's not a secret, what year will you be? I'm 53rd.
          I wish you success in business and happiness in your personal life.
          Sincerely ...
          1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 16: 34
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            Thank you for your wishes, if from the bottom of my heart. As for "who are you", I wanted to convey the idea that it is interesting to discuss on the site not someone's property in general, but property attributed to people's representatives. Therefore, you should not take it personally, I did not lay anything offensive for you personally. I have been since 1981.
      2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 16: 31
        +2
        Vladimir Putin is being discussed because he has been the head of state for 20 years. Here is his officially declared property:

        According to the declaration, the composition of the real estate of the President of the Russian Federation has not changed. He owns an apartment of 77 sq. m and a garage with an area of ​​18 sq. m. The president also owns an apartment of 153,7 square meters. m and a garage space of 18 sq. m. All these facilities are located in Russia. Putin is still the owner of two rare Volga GAZ M21 cars, a Niva SUV and a Skif trailer.

        For some reason, not everyone believes. As for the "palace", then, in my opinion, Navalny should be refuted at the level of the federal media, in detail, by making a film of similar timing, and not a 3-minute clip of some video blogger.
  • oderih Offline oderih
    oderih (Alex) 29 January 2021 15: 32
    +2
    Marzhetsky, you won't get two medals at once. Decide.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 15: 58
      -1
      I have long ago decided on my position in my 40s. I am for justice: if something bad happens in my country, I honestly write about it, if there is something good, I also write honestly and with pleasure.
  • Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 January 2021 15: 45
    -1
    Quote: 123
    There is plenty of inaccessibility for the president, government and others. One more, one less. The reasoning to have this particular object is doubtful. In general, I am not worried about this. Do you want an excursion to the not so distant past?

    By the way, I don’t worry at all, I don’t really care about this palace. I'm just for justice.
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    2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 29 January 2021 22: 25
      +1
      By the way, I don’t worry at all, I don’t really care about this palace. I'm just for justice.

      When I was young and stupid, I believed in the ideals of "freedom, equality, brotherhood."

      I finished school once a year of the promised "communism".
      Then there was masturbation called "perestroika", "the dark decade of alcohol work with documents in Ogaryovo," "Putin's new times."
      And all this time, everyone was fighting for justice (as they understood)

      While I was building my family happiness.
      By their work (not an oligarch, not an official, not a silovik, and not even a member of United Russia)

      Now the question is, how can you make me happy with this besides another "justice" ??
      I understand there will be another redistribution, a mess and most likely blood ..
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 30 January 2021 07: 27
        +2
        Quote: Ulysses
        Now the question is, how can you make me happy with this besides another "justice" ??
        I understand that there will be another redistribution, a mess and most likely blood

        I have a counter question: why should I make you happy? I myself work two jobs, study in parallel, help my parents, dig in the garden, etc. You are at the wrong address with claims.
        As for justice in my personal understanding: everyone should get what he deserves. If this is really Putin's palace, let him explain to the voters (by the way, I have never voted for him). If Navalny lied with three boxes, then let him answer according to the law. That's all.
    3. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 30 January 2021 19: 52
      0
      Sergey, you too often declare your commitment to justice ... Doubts begin to arise about your cries of commitment ........... lol
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 31 January 2021 07: 12
        0
        I do not know what exactly and what you have doubts about, but this is your own business. I do not "shout" about anything, I honestly do my job in accordance with my life principles and civic position.
        I am a man of leftist views, I do not support either Putin, who is building oligarchic capitalism in my country, or Navalny, who is carrying a liberal coup. Is this clear?
        If this is Putin's palace, then his voters, to whom I do not belong, should ask him questions. If Navalny lied, then he must answer for it. This is fairness in my understanding on a specific issue.
        If you are not satisfied with what and how I write, you can skip reading. I don't really owe anyone anything here, except for the editorial staff with which I work.
        1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) 31 January 2021 09: 22
          -1
          Leftist, you say? No.
          1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) 31 January 2021 09: 43
            -1
            I used a different word. In my opinion, more than enough has been said. For my part, I turn off the discussion.
            1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
              A.Lex (Secret information) 31 January 2021 19: 26
              -1
              Are you folding? Why? I just got a taste! Leftists say? Well, well ... something is not visible - rather leftist, this is closer to your publications.
              1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                Marzhecki (Sergei) 1 February 2021 07: 23
                -1
                Have a taste? You will interrupt. wink How do I fold? I stop responding to your comments. I've already said more than it was worth.
                1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
                  A.Lex (Secret information) 1 February 2021 23: 27
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                  laughing You offended? Come on! How is it with the ancients?

                  "... you are angry - it means you are wrong"

                  Converting to the current situation:

                  "... you are offended - it means that you are wrong"

                  Do not take to heart! wink
                  Be healthy!
                  1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                    Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 February 2021 08: 53
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                    Quote: A.Lex
                    You offended? Come on! How is it with the ancients?

                    "... you are angry - it means you are wrong"

                    What should I be offended at? Where am I wrong?
                    I explained my position, on which I closed the topic from my side. What you think about this is your own business, it doesn't concern me at all. And you health.
  • Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 29 January 2021 18: 14
    +3
    Gad Navalny, did not let the construction be completed ... all the migrant workers were scared and thrashed ...
  • Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 29 January 2021 20: 31
    +2
    In public, others who believe in his investigation in all seriousness claim that the palace was specially dismantled within a few days for filming a refutation film.

    Who needs proof and what else? lol
    1. Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
      Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 30 January 2021 01: 45
      -3
      Who disassembled what? The palace was built a long time ago. Just because of mistakes in the construction, there was a lot of dampness, mold appeared, etc. Well, they decided to redo it, and thoroughly. Today you can't hide any sewn in a sack.
  • Anatoly Babug Offline Anatoly Babug
    Anatoly Babug (Anatol) 29 January 2021 22: 13
    -5
    Is it okay that the telegram channel Mash is the property of the son of the notorious Kovalchuk? And yes, it has already been found out that there is now just a renovation. Due to design errors, there was a lot of dampness with all the consequences of this, so they decided to make a major repair. Putin himself was there, by the way, at least 4 times.
  • Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 29 January 2021 22: 40
    +1
    So, for "fighters against palaces"
    Pure information.

    LONDON, January 29. / TASS /.

    Video hosting YouTube removed from access a 1969 documentary about the British royal family, which raised concerns among officials and Queen Elizabeth II herself about a possible undermining of the image of the royal family.
    The Times reported this on Friday.

    wink
  • shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 30 January 2021 01: 00
    +4
    Have you ever seen how they catch fish at night with the light of a flashlight? Navalny, at the moment, is acting as a flashlight. He is not even a pop Gapon or a ram provocateur.
  • Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 30 January 2021 10: 35
    +2
    This is some kind of scribe ... the palace has been under construction for a long time ... not a single government from the local to the Kremlin, like, knows nothing, does not want to know, and turns away ... ay, where are we? and what are the authorities in our country
  • NoN importa Offline NoN importa
    NoN importa (NoN importa) 30 January 2021 10: 48
    -1
    Quote: Athenogen
    Well, firstly, it is not shown that this is exactly the palace, shooting mainly inside the building (you can shoot anything like that). Secondly, if they really want to make a refutation, why not do it on the central channels, and not semi-underground? Take off everything, show it on all central channels, but they don't. Why? As I see this situation, there is just a great desire to somehow refute Navalny's video, but there is no way.

    last night I watched the Russian news release on YouTube 1 at 20:00 there, God forbid, at 54 minutes, a report about this sanatorium begins and they promised to disclose even more on the January 31 release. but even yesterday's more detailed than Mesh. Russia 1 is quite a federal channel.
  • gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 30 January 2021 16: 25
    -2
    No hookah bars, no furniture for hundreds of millions: video from "Putin's palace" exposed Navalny's investigation

    - Yes, what kind of "Putin's palace" is there ...
    - Personally, I would open a "multi-level" chic casino there ... - The place is suitable ... - On the outskirts (a little "on the outskirts") is located ... - The building itself is quite powerful ... - You can also use it in it and open the bank ...
    - So any "Las Vegas" ... - would just smoke with envy on the sidelines ... -Hahah ...
  • Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
    Peter rybak (Patrol) 30 January 2021 16: 52
    -1
    Compared to the refutation, Navalny's video is worth an Oscar.
    Nobody will file anything against Alexey for libel. Because the FBK is preparing new materials for disclosures.
    And this video will not raise Putin's authority in the eyes of people.
    Remember the old joke about the spoon? "And the sediment remained."
  • Ivan Dovgy Offline Ivan Dovgy
    Ivan Dovgy 30 January 2021 17: 01
    0
    It turns out that this is not a palace at all, but a shack? It would be better to say that it does not exist at all. It's easier to believe in an optical illusion.
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 2 February 2021 10: 56
      0
      How cleverly they all turned to the "palace". They only discuss the "palace", and then: whether Putin has anything to do with it or not. That is, exactly what can be easily justified and from which it is easy to "get rid of" - rewrote it on some one - "Petka", burned the previous papers in a "accidental" short circuit, tore off the walls and took out the gate - and that's it - there is no palace, and there is a "sports and recreation complex, closed type" or "hotel complex for VIPs" under construction, owned by a "patriotically oriented entrepreneur" ... But Navalny's film is not really about the "palace". "Palace" is "entourage", against the background of which Navalny conducts an investigation of clan-kinship-friendly ties and interweaving of the Russian government and the so-called "near-government entrepreneurs", traces their history, interconnection, relations, their activities and plans for the future. That is, it reveals who exactly owns everything in Russia and how they achieved this and secured for themselves. This is what the film is about. yes