The USA got the Russian anti-aircraft complex "Pantsir-C1"


In June 2020, the US military removed the Russian Pantsir-C1 air defense system from Libya. The operation had the direct goal of preventing the complex from falling into the hands of the militants, but the obvious benefits from the study of the modern air defense system exported by Russia by the United States cannot be disregarded. At the moment, the system is located at the Ramstein base in Germany, writes The Drive.


The British newspaper The Times was the first to report on the secret mission, which took place in June 2020. A US Air Force C-17A Globemaster III transport aircraft reportedly flew into Zuwara International Airport, west of Tripoli, to retrieve the Pantsir-C1, which was then flown to Ramstein AFB in Germany.

It is unclear which modification of the Pantsir-C1 was acquired by the Americans. Haftar's Libyan National Army (LNA) received several of these systems from the United Arab Emirates. Their distinguishing feature is the German-made MAN SX 8x8 chassis.

Last year, there were also photographs from Libya showing Pantsir-S1 on the chassis of an 8x8 KAMAZ-6560 truck. This equipment is used in the Russian Armed Forces.

A careful study of the Russian anti-missile system can still provide the United States with useful data. Even a simple study of the materials used to make certain components, as well as the quality of their production, can provide useful information about the current military-industrial capabilities of Russia, the media believes.
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  1. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 11: 31
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    It's funny

    Last year, there were also photographs from Libya showing Pantsir-S1 on the chassis of an 8x8 KAMAZ-6560 truck. This equipment is used in the Russian Armed Forces.

    Russia never helped Haftar! This is how Putin's lies are revealed by external and indirect data .... It is everywhere in everything.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 January 2021 11: 48
      +4
      Quote: Vladest
      This is how Putin's lies are revealed by external and indirect data .... It is everywhere in everything.

      A counter question: is he the only one lying in politics?
      What was actually in the test tube, because of which the United States staged military aggression against sovereign Iraq?
      What do the Israelis say about the nuclear arsenal they secretly created in violation of all international norms? It's not there, but if anything, applicable?
      Is lying a privilege exclusively of Vladimir Putin?
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 12: 01
        .
        Doesn't it seem strange to you to justify your lies to strangers? So you will soon steal and speak in response, so the neighbor steals. If you think that if everything is so, then I am, then why whine that they do not notice and suppress. Among the bandits, the strongest will win.
        Although besides the test tube, Hussein had other sins for which he had to twist his head .. They twisted it.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 January 2021 12: 59
          +7
          You are a commonplace hypocrite
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 28 January 2021 13: 34
            +8
            Marzhecki... I propose to create a trade union, and use it as a mediated instrument of influence against inadequate personalities. yes
            This gentleman specifically interferes.
        2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
          sgrabik (Sergei) 28 January 2021 13: 08
          +6
          Vladest (Vladimir), you have already got everyone here, here we are talking about something completely different, why are you climbing everywhere with your ridiculous nonsense !!!
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 28 January 2021 13: 18
            +2
            sgrabik, apparently, the liberals lack qualified personnel. Found and invited a citizen Vladest, and said - interfere with the work of the site, as you can, and interfere.

            The Master interferes, but the Admin allows. Freedom, that's what it is. laughing
            1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
              sgrabik (Sergei) 28 January 2021 13: 20
              +3
              It seems that only the qualifications of this subject do not stand up to criticism, it is much lower than the plinth !!!
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 28 January 2021 13: 26
                +4
                sgrabik... But 25 comments a day. Estonians, they are not so nimble. A non-standard Estonian was caught. laughing
                1. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
                  Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 28 January 2021 14: 23
                  -5
                  you're wrong - the most prolific on the Reporter (like a fruit fly) is a digital cameraman - 40-50 comments per day easily and without straining ... who only pays him for this salary ???
                  1. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 28 January 2021 15: 11
                    +3
                    Igor Pavlovich... We are not looking for the prolific, you do not understand. We found a troll.
                    1. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
                      Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 28 January 2021 18: 51
                      -4
                      AAAAA !!!!! So digital is a troll ??? That's why I think how he manages to pour so much water in the comments ... Thank you, enlightened !!!
                      1. isofat Offline isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 28 January 2021 19: 00
                        +5
                        Igor Pavlovich, call an ambulance? Or you indulge feigning idiocy?

                        PS Checking. Are you a simulator or not - tell me your address, I'll call and help you. wink
          2. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 15: 07
            -5
            Quote: sgrabik
            Vladest (Vladimir), you have already got everyone here, here we are talking about something completely different, why are you climbing everywhere with your ridiculous nonsense !!!

            I write exclusively on the topic. My opinion is not pleasant REFUTE.
            My nonsense, this is a reaction to your nonsense. You are either on the topic or not. I DO NOT TOUCH your bones, bodies, brains, names, nation and country of residence.
            1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
              Ulysses (Alexey) 28 January 2021 22: 38
              +2
              Russia never helped Haftar!

              Where did you get this nonsense of inflamed consciousness ??
              Proofs can I go to the studio?
        3. General Black Offline General Black
          General Black (Gennady) 28 January 2021 18: 23
          +2
          So Hussein did not have a test tube. This lizard of yours, General Powell, had the test tube.
      2. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 28 January 2021 12: 05
        +2
        Marzhecki, with him only Админ can handle.
      3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
        sgrabik (Sergei) 28 January 2021 13: 13
        +3
        To explain to an idiot that he is wrong is a thankless task, he will never understand this, because he is not healthy and is not able to reason soberly and think rationally !!!
    2. Dear sofa expert. 28 January 2021 12: 51
      +4
      Putin's lies .... It is everywhere in everything.

      Sorry, but your blatant stupidity just rolls over! (so I’m not writing for you.)

      A president, a politician, in this case, is not a private person who "stealthily ate a chocolate bar" or "cheats on his girlfriend" so that he could be labeled a liar.

      Putin, no more, no less, is the PRESIDENT of RUSSIA.

      Politicians of this rank are guided, first of all, not by their own, personal, mercantile interests, but by the interests of the state they represent. These are legal entities that are responsible, first of all, before their state, and before their people, and not before "the rest of the world." They have their own politicians, their own chancellors and presidents, who, by the way, "lie" (in the interests of their own peoples), no less, and maybe more.

      PS One of the reasons that sometimes induce us to "lie" (or, more correctly, not to tell the whole truth) is: To protect those we love. To protect your neighbor is not a sin, but the greatest good!
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 12: 55
        -6
        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        so that you could label him a liar.

        Hasn't Putin promised Not to raise the retirement age while he is in power?
        There's even more to it.

        1. Dear sofa expert. 28 January 2021 13: 42
          +3
          Hasn't Putin promised Not to raise the retirement age while he is in power?

          Well, show the same to Mrs. Merkel. She, too, promised not to continue what Mr. Schroeder, reform "Agenda 2010", continuing her own dear, without any delay, as soon as she became Chancellor.
          In this "agenda", the increase in the retirement age (up to 67 years!), Was, by the way, along with many other "unpopular" reforms.
          Or will it be weak for you to call the chancellor of the state, on whose neck you (Estonians), and similar "boogers" to you, are you so "prancing successfully"?
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 15: 11
            -5
            Quote: Dear sofa expert.
            Well, show the same to Mrs. Merkel.

            How does Merkel treat you sideways?
            I said that Putin is lying and gave examples of this. What else do you want? You are fussing with Merkel. First, agree that I was right, and then we will discuss your Merkel.
            Or prove that Putin is not lying)))
            1. Dear sofa expert. 28 January 2021 15: 57
              +4
              How does Merkel treat you sideways?

              And how do you treat us sideways to discuss (condemn) Putin?

              I said that Putin is lying and gave examples of this. What else do you want? You are fussing with Merkel.

              And I gave you an example of the same "lies" (according to your statement, mind you), only in a different place.

              Personally, I, neither one nor the other, "lies"
              I don't think so. It's nothing personal, just politics. Realities change, and with them their reflection in our perception changes. This is normal.

              The child also swears to his mother that he will love only her all his life (and will never marry anyone else)), but then he grows up and realizes that the reality of an adult is different from childhood.
              Ideally, wisdom and age go hand in hand. And to you, it seems, age came alone.)
              1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                Vladest (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 19: 46
                -3
                Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                And how do you treat us sideways to discuss (condemn) Putin?

                We are your neighbors. And on the example of Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine, we can see how the Russian Federation can help its neighbors.
                Your TV and radio channels conduct their propaganda with us and this means that we have every right to meddle in your affairs))
                Disconnect and part with the World)))
                1. Dear sofa expert. 28 January 2021 20: 27
                  +3
                  We are your neighbors. And on the example of Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine, we can see how the Russian Federation can help its neighbors.

                  Let me remind you that first the Georgians killed the Russian peacekeepers. Personally, I would have razed their state to the ground for this. So let them be glad that Putin and Medvedev are kinder than me.)

                  In Moldova .. so there is a conflict between Moldova and Transnistria. The conflict ended with the introduction of the Russian peacekeeping contingent. In my opinion, there is help.

                  Ukraine .. there is a civil war. The reasons for it are known to all: The overthrow of the legally elected president, with the subsequent coming to power of the Nazis.

                  Russia supports a side that does not agree with the criminal Nazi regime in Ukraine. In my opinion this is logical.

                  Your TV and radio channels conduct their propaganda with us and this means that we have every right to meddle in your affairs))
                  Disconnect and part with the World

                  So you turn it off. I do not like it, I switched the program and business. )
                  1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                    Vladest (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 22: 29
                    -5
                    Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                    Russia supports a side that does not agree with the criminal Nazi regime in Ukraine. In my opinion this is logical.

                    This way and the same way you justify everything. There is no Nazi regime in Ukraine. Lies as a method of propaganda, and aggression as a method of seizing foreign lands.
                    In Ukraine, after 2014, presidents change as it should be in a democratic state. There, the power is CHANGING. When power is seized there rules alone to the end.
                    And in the end it is not you who are ruling the charter, who to be and what to write.
                    Don't like disconnect)))
                    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                      Ulysses (Alexey) 28 January 2021 22: 58
                      +2
                      In Ukraine, after 2014, presidents change as it should be in a democratic state.

                      Did it help Ukraine a lot ??
                      Always amazed "clever men" for whom "procedure" is higher than the result.
                    2. Dear sofa expert. 28 January 2021 23: 35
                      +1
                      In Ukraine, after 2014, presidents change as it should be in a democratic state. There, the power is CHANGING.

                      In a country that is, to put it mildly, under external control, the power does not "change", it is changed by appointing a figure (a puppet) that suits the manager.
        2. General Black Offline General Black
          General Black (Gennady) 28 January 2021 18: 28
          +3
          Hasn't Putin promised Not to raise the retirement age while he is in power?

          Did he personally promise you? You promised to dig a tunnel between Helsinki and Tallinn in Estonia, where is it?
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 22: 30
            -5
            Quote: General Black
            Did he personally promise you? You promised to dig a tunnel between Helsinki and Tallinn in Estonia, where is it?

            And who promised it?
          2. General Black Offline General Black
            General Black (Gennady) 28 January 2021 23: 43
            +2
            Well, who? First, the mayor of Tallinn, Savisaar, then this 45-foot entity of yours showed interest, but since the project is expensive, the European Union did not give you any money or hoes. Finland is a different matter, it can afford to allocate 7 billion out of 14 of the total cost, but you cannot. Where did the hicks get such a sum? How many years do you need to catch a Baltic herring to scrape together so much money?
      2. rudolff Offline rudolff
        rudolff (Rudolf) 28 January 2021 13: 06
        -2
        Sorry, but your blatant stupidity just rolls over!

        Sorry, the campaign has no limits. The position does not make a person better, even the highest. Rather, the opposite is true. Yeltsin was also PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA, but to say that he

        was guided primarily not by his own, personal, materialistic interests, but by the interests of the state ...

        not even funny. Why would Putin be different if he is his successor? You can still remember Gorbachev, too, after all, the president with all the big letters.
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    3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 28 January 2021 13: 02
      +2
      Who is talking about what, and lousy is always about the bath !!!
    4. Ivancarafuto Offline Ivancarafuto
      Ivancarafuto (Ivan) 28 January 2021 22: 16
      +3
      This is how you can see a narrow-minded person who, through thoughtlessness, can accuse anyone of anything. Explaining equipment and weapons are supplied to many countries, including the Middle East, resale is a normal state of affairs. Why am I so sure? If there were DIRECT deliveries, then the West would raise the stench and introduce new sanctions ... And politicians of this level do not lie but mislead, this is Navalny lying because he is stupid and sings from someone else's voice
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  3. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 28 January 2021 12: 01
    +5
    All the advanced weapons of the Russian Federation sold abroad are always studied by US specialists, and not only. Therefore, the transportation of export Shells to the United States will not add much ... It is imperative for ours to intentionally intercept the advanced military and not only US equipment, something is not heard, so that the Americans complain about the theft of samples of the latest technology, because the SVR and the GRU cannot boast of success, although it is their responsibility ...
    1. stepet Offline stepet
      stepet 28 January 2021 12: 42
      -6
      All the advanced weapons of the Russian Federation sold abroad

      Probably still not advanced, but new.
      Where do advanced weapons come from in Russia?
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 28 January 2021 17: 04
        +1
        About Posseidon, Vanguard did not hear, strange ...
        1. stepet Offline stepet
          stepet 28 January 2021 18: 17
          -4
          Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
          About Posseidon, Vanguard did not hear, strange ...

          Heard something heard.
          Only did not see.
          And no one saw.
          And this is very strange.
          And suspicious.
          I'm not going to remind you who gets richer with dummies and bikes.
          1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 28 January 2021 18: 44
            +1
            To see the secret weapon from your own couch, well, the sage will only say that ...
            1. stepet Offline stepet
              stepet 28 January 2021 19: 38
              -3
              Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
              See the secret weapon from your own couch

              CIA scouting from the couch?
              Did not know.
              Boy, now the number of any car from the satellite can be read.
              In principle, there can be no unnoticed testing of a secret weapon of this kind.
              1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 28 January 2021 20: 49
                +2
                But they didn't tell you, and now you don't know ...
                1. stepet Offline stepet
                  stepet 29 January 2021 11: 55
                  -3
                  Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
                  But they didn't tell you

                  They are not to me, they have reported to the whole world that they doubt the presence of such weapons.
          2. Dear sofa expert. 28 January 2021 21: 47
            +2
            Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
            About Posseidon, Vanguard did not hear, strange ...

            Heard something heard.
            Only did not see.
            And no one saw.
            And this is very strange.
            And suspicious.
            I'm not going to remind you who gets richer with dummies and bikes.

            That is, do you think that the Americans are in vain demanding the inclusion of these types of weapons in the extension of the START 3 treaty?

            The Treaty on the Limitation of Strategic and Offensive Arms (START-3) has already extended to Russian hypersonic systems Avangard,

            Viktor Murakhovsky added that the terms of the agreement also apply to the Sarmat missile system. However, he noted that the Russian Burevestnik missile and the American Poseidon are not included in the number of strategic delivery vehicles that are limited by the START-3 Treaty.

            Avangard was included in the START Treaty back in 2019

            https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rbc.ru%2Frbcfreenews%2F601152199a7947637ac5e47c
            1. stepet Offline stepet
              stepet 29 January 2021 11: 59
              -3
              Quote: Dear sofa expert.
              That is, do you think that the Americans are in vain demanding the inclusion of these types of weapons in the extension of the START 3 treaty?

              What to include?
              What has been there for a long time is already included.
              And what is only in cartoons, then there is no point in including.
          3. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
            Ulysses (Alexey) 28 January 2021 23: 03
            0
            Heard something heard.
            Only did not see.

            God forbid you to see (in action).
            There will be no one to discuss here.
            1. stepet Offline stepet
              stepet 29 January 2021 12: 01
              -3
              Quote: Ulysses
              God forbid you to see (in action).

              What I'm absolutely calm about is that all these scarecrows will NEVER be used.
              They are not needed for waging war.
              And so that the elites of the nuclear countries could do whatever they want. Not in the military sphere.
              1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                Ulysses (Alexey) 29 January 2021 19: 15
                0
                What I'm absolutely calm about is that all these scarecrows will NEVER be used.
                They are not needed for waging war.

                Russia can use nuclear weapons as a retaliatory strike, both in the case of receiving reliable information about the launch of ballistic missiles attacking our country or its allies, and if weapons of mass destruction were used. And also - in case of aggression with the use of conventional weapons, if the very existence of the state is threatened. A nuclear strike is also permissible when the enemy is acting on critical state or military facilities, the disabling of which will disrupt retaliatory actions.

                https://rg.ru/2020/06/02/nazvany-usloviia-primeneniia-rossiej-iadernogo-oruzhiia.html
                1. stepet Offline stepet
                  stepet 29 January 2021 20: 16
                  -2
                  So I say, Russia will never use nuclear weapons.
                  1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                    Ulysses (Alexey) 29 January 2021 20: 36
                    +2
                    If it is not attacked by a really serious military force in the person of NATO, for example.
                    We will deal with mongrels like Georgia or the current Kiev regime with conventional weapons.
                    1. stepet Offline stepet
                      stepet 29 January 2021 20: 53
                      -3
                      Quote: Ulysses
                      If it is not attacked by a really serious military force in the person of NATO, for example.

                      Already attacked.
                      In 2014 was
                      But in a more appropriate hybrid way in the modern world.
                      Here's how about 1979 in the USSR.
                      The USSR then held out for 12 years.
                      How long the RF will hold out is unknown.

                      Quote: Ulysses
                      We will deal with mongrels like Georgia or the current Kiev regime with conventional weapons.

                      This is if Washington is allowed.
                      And if they do not allow it, you will have to take it back.
                      As in Georgia.
                      Or the hybrid war I wrote about above.
                      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                        Ulysses (Alexey) 29 January 2021 21: 08
                        0
                        Not so devil as he is painted

                        And the devil is already looking completely dead.
                      2. stepet Offline stepet
                        stepet 29 January 2021 21: 15
                        -2
                        Quote: Ulysses
                        "The devil is not so terrible as he is painted."
                        And the devil is already looking completely dead.

                        I did not notice any deadness in him.
                        Therefore, the clock is ticking.
                      3. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                        Ulysses (Alexey) 29 January 2021 21: 30
                        0
                        And this does not change anything on a global scale.
                        You just have to swallow more bitter pills.

                        The clock may also be ticking, only the arrows have already flown off the gears.
                      4. stepet Offline stepet
                        stepet 29 January 2021 22: 40
                        -3
                        Quote: Ulysses
                        The clock may also be ticking, only the arrows have already flown off the gears.

                        Well yes.
                        Blessed is he who believes.
                      5. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                        Ulysses (Alexey) 29 January 2021 22: 42
                        0
                        I'm not going to convince anyone.
                        You have your own faith, I have mine.
                        Time will judge.
  • Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 28 January 2021 20: 30
    +1
    Tuzakov. About Posseidon, Vanguard has not been heard, strange ...

    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 28 January 2021 20: 44
      0
      I put a plus for the humor. And that, in the steppe there is no gopher, in the steppe there is always a gopher ...
  • Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 13: 03
    -7
    Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
    All the advanced weapons of the Russian Federation sold abroad are always examined by US specialists, and not only

    Sales agreements often stipulate that this should not be done.
    Or is there evidence to the contrary?
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 28 January 2021 17: 13
      -1
      Note: For money and preferences, everything is possible, especially in the East ...
  • cmonman Offline cmonman
    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 28 January 2021 17: 26
    -4
    Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
    All the advanced weapons of the Russian Federation sold abroad are always examined by US specialists

    Quite right! But the conclusions, for some reason, they made on space! They were probably convinced that they did not know how to handle iron in Russia (too many extra holes were drilled) and deleted Russia from the Artemis program!
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 28 January 2021 12: 33
    -5
    - Americans could just order the purchase of this - with a prepayment ... laughing
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 28 January 2021 18: 54
      +1
      This is done through the front countries ...
  • Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 28 January 2021 19: 44
    +1
    In any contract for the supply of military equipment there is always a clause prohibiting its alienation in favor of a third party. UAE violated this clause ...
  • Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 29 January 2021 22: 31
    0
    The situation would not have been so unpleasant if the export systems really had fundamental differences with the original ones, but this may not be the case at all, even because of the banal thirst to earn extra money from Russian manufacturers of combat systems and make minimal ones, but additionally costly changes in export technology.
    I can recall how the Jews seized from the Egyptians, too, export early warning P-12 "Yenisei" locators for the issuance of target designation of the S-75 air defense system. They studied it to the cog and then used the information received very effectively to fight the Arab air defenses.