Why Turkey needed a second aircraft carrier


Turkey continues to actively build up its military power. President Erdogan intends to back his "imperial" plans not only with the second-strongest army in NATO, but also with a modern navy, which should give Ankara the maximum opportunity to "project" its geopolitical will at the right point on the map. For this, Turkey is going to build its own aircraft carrier, already the second in a row.


Due to its aggressive external policy, "Sultan" Erdogan made many enemies in the Eastern Mediterranean and seriously complicated relations with Russia on the Black Sea. To deter potential adversaries, Ankara is actively building up its combat fleet.

In particular, Turkey has maximally localized the production of submarines of the German project Type 214, developed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW). Each such submarine with an air-independent propulsion system (AIP) has an autonomy of 84 days and is capable of diving to a depth of 400 meters. The joint project "Type 214TN" (Turkish Navy) for 80% consists of Turkish-made components, the remaining 20% ​​is a German power plant and fuel cells, which will be delivered from Germany. The first submarine of this series, named Piri Reis, has already been launched, and by 2022 there should be six of them in service. If we add to them thirteen more that were previously acquired from Germany, it turns out a rather impressive force, which both our Russian Black Sea Fleet and our neighbors in the Eastern Mediterranean will have to reckon with.

But the main confirmation of Ankara's "imperial" ambitions can be considered the construction of an aircraft carrier. “Sultan” Erdogan said this back in 2016:

After the creation of the amphibious ship, Turkey will be able to build a domestic aircraft carrier. And we will build it. The Turkish Armed Forces will have their own aircraft carrier. We will achieve this. There are no obstacles along the way.

By the way, Turkey already has its own light aircraft carrier, this very "amphibious ship", as Recep Erdogan called it, or the Anadolu universal amphibious assault ship. Technically, it is a copy of the Spanish UDC-aircraft carrier Juan Carlos I. That, in turn, is conceptually close to the American Wasp-class amphibious assault ships. The displacement of the Turkish light aircraft carrier is 27,7 thousand tons. It can accommodate 12 American F-35 fighters and 12 NHI NH90 attack helicopters, as well as Anka or Bayraktar UAVs. Since it is formally a landing ship, "Anadolu" will be able to transfer up to 500 marines, as well as 46 tanks, or 77 units of wheeled armored vehicles. It was launched in 2019.

Such a tool for "projecting" Turkish power, for example, in Libya or on the disputed Greek islands. Or somewhere else, already on the Black Sea. Since according to the papers it is not an aircraft carrier, but a UDC, "Anadolu" can easily pass the Dardanelles and the Bosphorus. And now a full-fledged aircraft carrier is planned. It is not yet known on what project it will be built, with what power plant and what aircraft will be deployed on it. After being excluded from the F-35 program with the latter, Turkey had difficulties that, perhaps, will be resolved under the new administration in Washington.

It is possible that the Americans or the British will help Ankara with the construction of their full-fledged aircraft carrier. The growing appetites of the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean are straining many, but NATO will clearly not mind if their ally has carrier-based aircraft in the Black Sea to contain Russia. The construction of the Istanbul bypass canal may help President Erdogan to bypass the restrictions of the Montreux Convention on the entry of ships of this class.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 27 January 2021 15: 12
    +4
    An aircraft carrier in the Black and Mediterranean Seas is unprofitable due to the proximity of conventional enemy airfields. Turkish aircraft can reach all points of these seas from land. This is an ocean ship. Is it that the Turks are going to seize Nigeria or Liberia?
    1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
      Afinogen (Afinogen) 27 January 2021 15: 20
      +2
      Quote: Bulanov
      unprofitable due to the proximity of conventional enemy airfields.

      Yes, even airfields are not needed here, from the Crimea the entire Black Sea is being shot through by our "Bastions". And such a tub as an aircraft carrier is an excellent target.

      1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
        Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 27 January 2021 18: 01
        -2
        Who were going to shoot at, has the war with Turkey already begun?
        1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
          Afinogen (Afinogen) 27 January 2021 19: 21
          +1
          Did I write that I would shoot? Shoot and shoot are two different things.
          1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
            Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 27 January 2021 21: 39
            -2
            Maybe you don't need to make a laughing stock again? When blowing, it can fly somewhere in the wrong direction, "WITHOUT ANALOGUES" to fly!
            1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
              Afinogen (Afinogen) 27 January 2021 22: 53
              0
              Do you even understand what you are writing? lol
              1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 28 January 2021 09: 31
                -1
                Oh, so you can see I was wrong? So it was intended, well then. Okay.
    2. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 27 January 2021 19: 00
      0
      Why so far away? In the Mediterranean, the field is unpaved ...
    3. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 January 2021 09: 02
      0
      Quote: Bulanov
      This is an ocean ship. Is it that the Turks are going to seize Nigeria or Liberia?

      The Turks have ambitious plans for BV and Africa. The aircraft carrier is a symbol of naval power.
      1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 28 January 2021 09: 15
        -1
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        The aircraft carrier is a symbol of naval power.

        I disagree. It used to be a symbol of power. But with the modern development of the RCC, it has turned from a symbol into a headache and financial pain. At the beginning of hostilities, he turns into a very good target on which it is difficult to miss. Even Americans have already begun to wonder whether they need aircraft carriers.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 January 2021 09: 19
          +1
          Probably, it all depends on who is the first to start these hostilities and against whom? I don't think that Turkey really thinks to use them against the Russian Federation. But somewhere on the African coast or during the capture of the Greek islands with the support of the fleet - this is quite an option.
          As for the Americans, they do not plan to abandon aircraft carriers, only to reduce their number by a couple, as far as I read. The world has really changed, but AUG still has a place in it.
  2. stepet Offline stepet
    stepet 27 January 2021 16: 19
    -10%
    President Erdogan intends to reinforce his "imperial" plans not only with the second-strongest army in NATO,

    Apparently the armies of France and Britain no longer count.
    And Germany, too.
    The only pity is that they do not know about it.

    it turns out a rather impressive force, which our Russian Black Sea Fleet will have to reckon with,

    To be considered?
    ChMF is a hare paired with a wolf-Turkey.

    But NATO will clearly not mind if their ally has carrier-based aircraft in the Black Sea to contain Russia.

    And what does the Russian Federation have in the Black Sea? what should be contained?
    Do old and rusty buckets with nuts need containment?
    1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 27 January 2021 18: 05
      -4
      Unfortunately, it is not necessary, in this you are right, it is a pity that they themselves will sink in the once beautiful water area of ​​Sevastopol, before it was possible to sail on a motor ship.
      1. stepet Offline stepet
        stepet 27 January 2021 19: 40
        -8
        Quote: Alexander K_2
        Unfortunately not necessary

        And maybe fortunately.
        The Black Sea and Baltic fleets are belches of the past.
        A heavy legacy from the times of the sailing fleet.
        These fleets of Russia are now simply not needed, since the outlets from these "seas" are not controlled by Russia.
        Therefore, small fleets would be sufficient there.
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 27 January 2021 20: 00
          +1
          Quote: stepet
          And maybe to happiness.

          stepet, you are not friends with happiness, this is a bell for you. wink
          1. stepet Offline stepet
            stepet 27 January 2021 21: 43
            -7
            Quote: isofat
            stepet, you are not friends with happiness,

            And you, with common sense.
            Russia is a relatively poor country.
            With a bunch of poor eaters.
            Want to make them even poorer?
            And how much do you plan to increase the retirement age?

            Here's Russia and its neighbors in the net worth of states (with all their guts):

            13 Taiwan (Chinese Taipei) 133.08%
            14 Switzerland 127.01%
            15 Netherlands 121.83%
            16 Brazil 115.79%
            17 Hong Kong SAR 100.45%
            18 Russia 100.00%
            19 Mexico 88.48%
            20 Belgium 71.87%
            21 Sweden 67.11%
            22 Austria 63.87%
            23 Indonesia 59.73%

            If anything, Russia is 0,85% of the entire world.
            She simply cannot afford to show off financially. Not on the shoulder.
            1. isofat Offline isofat
              isofat (isofat) 27 January 2021 21: 58
              +1
              Quote: stepet
              Russia is a relatively poor country.
              With a bunch of poor eaters.

              stepet, I understand you correctly, you are a realtor and have come to squeeze our country from us? smile
              1. stepet Offline stepet
                stepet 27 January 2021 22: 18
                -6
                Quote: isofat
                I understand you correctly, you are a realtor and you came to squeeze our country from us?

                Whose is this "your"?
                Who are you, what is your last name?
                But, in any case, calm down.
                There is somehow no one who wants to squeeze out Russia in the world.
                The game is not worth the candle.
                1. isofat Offline isofat
                  isofat (isofat) 27 January 2021 22: 34
                  0
                  Quote: stepet
                  There is somehow no one who wants to squeeze out Russia in the world.
                  The game is not worth the candle.

                  Get out, get out of here ... After your visits, we immediately become a poor, useless country, without history, without an arms market and without hope for the future. yes
                  1. stepet Offline stepet
                    stepet 28 January 2021 00: 48
                    -4
                    Quote: isofat
                    After your visits, we immediately become a poor, useless country, without history, without an arms market and without hope for the future.

                    And what, were once rich, with a wonderful history, high-quality weapons and bright hopes for the future?
                    It is, for an hour, not in front of the TV while watching the program Time?
                    You must at least sometimes stick your head out of the sand.
                    At least sometimes look around.
                    It is impossible to live like this all your life in captivity of illusions.
                    1. isofat Offline isofat
                      isofat (isofat) 28 January 2021 01: 19
                      0
                      Quote: stepet
                      And what, were once rich, with a wonderful history, high-quality weapons and bright hopes for the future?

                      Why were they? And where did it all go? laughing
                      1. stepet Offline stepet
                        stepet 28 January 2021 10: 30
                        -4
                        Why were they? And where did it all go?

                        Nowhere and nothing has gone.
                        It's just that nothing ever happened.
                        Except noodles from specially trained people.
    2. lahudra Offline lahudra
      lahudra (Nikolay Kondrashkin) 27 January 2021 19: 51
      -5
      The cruiser Moscow gave a leak after firing at Georgia, but did not sink. They will probably restrain him.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 27 January 2021 23: 07
        +3
        The Small Missile Ship “Mirage” fired at Georgia (Georgian boats), and you dreamed about the cruiser “Moscow”, and even leaked in it. Exotic dreams for you.
    3. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 January 2021 09: 22
      0
      Quote: stepet
      Apparently the armies of France and Britain no longer count.

      What is the British Army?
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 27 January 2021 17: 06
    +2
    Even if African countries have UDC, then for Turkey in the future, an aircraft carrier ...
    and for Russia too ...

    Who can build, in general.
    1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 27 January 2021 18: 08
      -3
      So Russia is designing some kind of reptile or toad.
      1. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 27 January 2021 19: 02
        +2
        Ukraine knows better ...
        1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
          Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 27 January 2021 21: 33
          -3
          The world is not only Ukraine, many people saw how Kuzya was pulled from the shores of Syria, 100 km of ropes were torn, and on the way 2 "NO ANALOGUES" 4 +++++++++ letak drowned!
  4. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 27 January 2021 23: 00
    +3
    Mr. Marzhetsky, Turkey has the second largest army in NATO, but not in strength. Turkey is armed with outdated weapons, and its industry cannot equip its own army even with tanks. The program for creating a Turkish tank has been stalled for ten years. As for the Turkish Navy submarines, some of them are outdated (in service since 1976) both morally and physically, and not all of them are combat-ready. Turkey's newest submarine has been in service since 2007, the bulk is much older. The newest Turkish frigate in service since 2000, the bulk is much older (half of the Turkish fleet, these are old ships decommissioned from the fleets of France and the United States, for example, escort escorts such as Oliver Perry). Although, recently the Turks managed to build 3 new corvettes, but their fleet is forced to keep ships not only in the Black, but also in the Mediterranean Sea without fail, and here Turkey, in part, is similar to the Russian Federation, which is forced to keep 4 fleets and 1 flotilla
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 January 2021 08: 59
      0
      Quote: Sapsan136
      Turkey is armed with outdated weapons, and its industry cannot equip its own army even with tanks. The program for creating a Turkish tank has been stalled for ten years.

      Now they plow the Koreans tightly to this topic with the tank.
      1. Restless Sagittarius (Vladimir) 28 January 2021 21: 38
        +2
        To plow then they plow, but things are still there. For the Turks have no money for this, and today relations with the United States are not important, and without a go-ahead from Washington, the Koreans will not give the Turks a nail, let alone tanks. In addition, Turkey is interested in the most budgetary version of the South Korean Black Panther tank, although this the tank is the leitmotif of the American Abrams and there is no know-how in its design
  5. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 29 January 2021 01: 24
    -1
    Why Turkey needed a second aircraft carrier

    - Well, what ... - It is for Turkey that aircraft carriers are super versatile ... - "if something happens" ... - Turkey can send them to "distant seas" ...
    - And also, "if something happens" ... - just block the exit from the Black Sea ... - and not a single submarine and not a single sailboat ... - will not slip through ... - A joke ... - but in each .... - Hahah ...