In Greece: Is Russia really afraid of the military might of the Turks?


In 2020, Turkey and Russia participated in one way or another in three conflicts (in Syria, Libya, and Nagorno-Karabakh) on opposite sides. Each time, the superiority of Ankara was noted, which forced Moscow to apply a radical diplomatic solution in the last of the confrontations, writes the Greek online edition Pentapostagma.


This gave rise to some experts to argue that the Russians actually suffered three defeats from the Turks during the year. Moreover, the most painful for Russia is the situation in Syria, where Moscow has been represented in the most serious way since the fall of 2015. Allegedly, it was because of this that the Russian Federation did not openly stand on the side of Armenia, and the latter lost the war to Azerbaijan.

Turkish drones have indeed done their best, scoring many victories on the battlefield in different regions, and some have said that Moscow is afraid of Ankara's growing military power. Have Russians started to fear the Turks? No. This does not mean that Russia considers itself weaker than Turkey militarily or technologically.

There is a logical explanation for what is happening. The Turkish Armed Forces can be directly involved in the zones of certain conflicts and use all kinds of militarized formations, but Russia does not have such an opportunity, since it is under serious pressure. The international situation does not allow Moscow to “bang its fist”. Therefore, well-equipped Turks and their allies are often opposed by forces armed with outdated weapons. This is the opinion of Turkish analysts from the independent research group BlueMelange (Ankara).

Moscow is serious about the threat of Turkish drones only on a limited range of issues

- clarified the expert Tom Renquist from the analytical center Stratfor (USA).

In his opinion, drones will not save the militants in Idlib. Moscow has not yet taken control of it, as it wants to prepare the Syrian army well in advance.

Turkish drones are mainly confronted by outdated air defense systems, often Soviet ones, at best modernized in the 90s. Armenians lost equipment more than $ 1 billion. In Libya, Bayraktar TB2 managed to destroy more than a dozen Russian Pantsir-S1 air defense missile systems transferred to the LNA by the UAE government. But the Russian Federation has already carried out work on the mistakes

- added from BlueMelange.

When faced with a multi-level air defense system, drone strikes will be insensitive. The main thing is to close all the "holes" and then the drones will not be able to report victories

Rehnquist remarked.
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  1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 23 January 2021 22: 26
    +10
    And in Bangladesh, what do they say about this?
    1. zloybond Offline zloybond
      zloybond (steppenwolf) 23 January 2021 22: 35
      -1
      HZ, what are they saying in Bangladesh. But Bangladesh has almost 200 million people. And it grows. And here it is decreasing.
    2. chemyurij Online chemyurij
      chemyurij (chemyurij) 24 January 2021 13: 13
      +6
      Bangladesh is perplexed - why Russia should solve the problems of Greece with Turkey.
  2. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 23 January 2021 22: 29
    +2
    Each time, the superiority of Ankara was noted, which forced Moscow to apply a radical diplomatic solution in the last of the confrontations, writes the Greek online edition Pentapostagma.

    I understand nonsense is easier to carry than a log lol But it would be better if the Greek Internet edition laid eggs (more good) yes lol
    1. greenchelman Offline greenchelman
      greenchelman (Grigory Tarasenko) 23 January 2021 22: 34
      +3
      Well they see from their bell tower. And really fearing the Turks.
      1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 23 January 2021 22: 47
        +9
        It is not difficult to understand them. They are very jarred that Russia is currently mates with Turkey (with their sworn enemies) So they are trying to add oil to the fire. So that the fire between Russia and Turkey flared up more strongly. Honestly, I don't trust Turkey either. But take Greece for example, like the Orthodox brothers, and recently they stuck a knife in the back of Russia to mother, meanly landed on a Russian ship and brazenly searched it. Now I have a sharply negative attitude towards Greece.
      2. Binder Online Binder
        Binder (Miron) 23 January 2021 22: 53
        -5
        And the fears of the Greeks have serious grounds - Erdogan is pursuing a very aggressive policy in Vost. Mediterranean.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 23 January 2021 23: 42
          +2
          And the fears of the Greeks have serious grounds - Erdogan is pursuing a very aggressive policy in Vost. Mediterranean.

          This is the problem of the Greeks, it should not be passed on to our shoulders. They are sloping, everything superfluous falls from them winked
          1. Binder Online Binder
            Binder (Miron) 24 January 2021 05: 51
            -7
            Where in the text does it say that the Greeks are trying to shift their problems onto the shoulders of Russia? Rather, the Russians, having designated their presence in the region, themselves shouldered a considerable burden of problems, including the Turkish one ...
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 24 January 2021 16: 46
              +4
              Where in the text does it say that the Greeks are trying to shift their problems onto the shoulders of Russia?

              Why are they bringing Russia here at all? Let them deal with their ally laughing Can the brave Greeks inspect the Turkish ship? sad

              Rather, the Russians, having designated their presence in the region, themselves shouldered a considerable burden of problems, including the Turkish one ...

              By yourself ... all by yourself. Russia owes nothing to anyone. request
    2. chemyurij Online chemyurij
      chemyurij (chemyurij) 24 January 2021 13: 16
      +3
      Quote: Athenogen
      I understand nonsense is easier to carry than a log lol But it would be better if the Greek Internet edition laid eggs (more good)

      In order to have eggs, you need a good rooster, not a rooster in the form of an EU. laughing
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  4. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
    Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 23 January 2021 23: 17
    -4
    Blatant Lie - Russia NEVER FEARED ANYONE! This is confirmed by the age-old history, it is not for nothing that it is said: And now we need one Victory, one for All, We are UNHEAD at the price! On my own I will add - even if this victory is PIRROVA!
    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
      Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 00: 06
      -8
      Quote: Alexander K_2
      Blatant Lie - Russia NEVER FEARED ANYONE! This is confirmed by centuries of history

      Your history is not yet 30 years old.
      1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
        Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 24 January 2021 00: 08
        -3
        Ours is Russia after the collapse of the USSR?
        1. Vladest Offline Vladest
          Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 00: 23
          -10%
          Quote: Alexander K_2
          Ours is Russia after the collapse of the USSR?

          Undoubtedly. Although the Russian Federation is proclaimed the legal successor of the USSR, it is a completely different state. Everything is different.
          This is tantamount if the Italians now declare that Dr. Rome is their story. Yes, there was a state on this earth, but completely different. So is the RF.
          Although everything can be appropriated, all the same, dead claims to the future cannot have.
          1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
            Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 24 January 2021 00: 28
            -7
            I agree with you, but then Russia just needs to show that it can be not only a "gas station" in the world
            1. Vladest Offline Vladest
              Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 00: 43
              -9
              Quote: Alexander K_2
              I agree with you, but then Russia just needs to show that it can be not only a "gas station" in the world

              I am for it. But something doesn't fit. Perhaps it was necessary first to make your economy at the level and only then to engage in politics?
              According to history, at the end of the 19th century, Japan took about the same 30 years to jump from Feudalism into Capitalism.
              1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 24 January 2021 00: 53
                -6
                And Japan is a dark people, you look - the tsarist squadron was drowned at Tsushima, by 1917. Russia built more, defeated Japan in World War II, they recovered and still require BACK Kuril Islands. And in Russia, the Kurils are still in the same state of 2, maybe just a little bit ... Russia has a scale, in extreme cases it is possible, as it was with Alaska, to sell the same to Japan.
            2. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 24 January 2021 16: 49
              +5
              I agree with you, but then Russia just needs to show that it can be not only a "gas station" in the world

              Russia owes nothing to anyone. Maybe, before talking about such things, you should show that you understand at least something about this?
              1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 24 January 2021 19: 32
                -1
                Unfortunately, you, like the Russian leadership, are mistaken. This "Robinson Caruso" lived on a desert island and did not owe anything to anyone. Living next to other states, the country has constant connections and contacts.
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 24 January 2021 19: 39
                  +1
                  Unfortunately, you, like the Russian leadership, are mistaken.

                  I doubt very much that I was mistaken about you and that you are competent to assess the actions of the Russian leadership.

                  This, "Robinson Caruso" lived on a desert island and did not owe anything to anyone.

                  That is, everyone in this world owes something to their neighbors? Do I understand you correctly? What owes Russia or, in your opinion, owes only Russia?

                  Living next to other states, the country has constant connections and contacts.

                  You are claiming the title of captain-obviousness? Extensive sayings, the meaning of which is vague. What are you talking about?
                  1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                    Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 24 January 2021 19: 50
                    -1
                    I pretend to be common sense. You cannot live in isolation in the world, this does not happen in any country! Countries trade all the time, exchange knowledge (for your information, this is also money). I don’t like to trade in raw materials, countries trade in technologies, goods, who do not have to be “gas stations”! Unfortunately, this is life!
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 24 January 2021 19: 58
                      +1
                      I don’t like to trade in raw materials, countries trade in technologies, goods, who don’t have to be "gas stations"! Unfortunately

                      Well why, not all fit your description. there is such a country and you know it yes
                      He trades in sovereignty, black soil, makes money on people, sending them abroad, taking out pots, picking strawberries, standing on a panel. I sold everything I inherited technology.
                      This technology trade is not suitable for us.
                      About the gas station, you write from your own limitations and ignorance.
                      1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                        Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 24 January 2021 20: 18
                        -1
                        I'll try again: a country or a state must live and develop, I hope you agree, this requires money. Where to get them - you need to trade! What is in demand, what the partner country needs, is sold and bought. As I understand it, Russia has only raw materials for sale, so She sells it! Russia will sell something else in demand! Why get so excited, produce and sell
                      2. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 24 January 2021 20: 35
                        +1
                        Again a bunch of platitudes? winked

                        You agree, it takes money. Where to get them - you need to trade! What is in demand, what the partner country needs, is sold and bought.

                        Not necessarily, some of them parasitize on the system, they just print money and live with a chronic deficit of foreign trade. If your people are in demand, do you think it is worth trading them? So you are not interested in morality at all? Only money?

                        As I understand it, Russia has only raw materials for sale, so She sells it!

                        That is why I say that you, to my deep regret, are an extremely limited and ignorant person. Firstly, there is nothing shameful in the trade in raw materials, some try to trade them but (to their deepest regret) do not withstand competition, for example, the United States.
                        Russia trades not only in raw materials and if you do not know this, it remains to regret you once again.

                        Why get so excited, produce and sell

                        Why are you so worried? Go ahead, don't get distracted yes
                      3. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                        Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 24 January 2021 20: 43
                        -1
                        So parasitize, but the country somehow does not succeed, maybe Russia has a lot of parasites, what do you think?
                      4. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 24 January 2021 20: 47
                        +1
                        Maybe this is not our way? What makes you think that Russia is striving for this? First remove your parasites, then you will teach life yes
                      5. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                        Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 24 January 2021 21: 25
                        -3
                        Unfortunately, you have not understood anything, but let Russia live and prosper - everyone will benefit from this, as long as they see only enemies around. America, Ukraine, the EU - I assure you, unpredictable neighbors are not needed by ANYONE! And about studying - if Russia already has nothing to learn, DO NOT study, ignoramuses are easy to manipulate!
  5. molotkov60mkpu Offline molotkov60mkpu
    molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 25 January 2021 16: 16
    0
    Was Dr. Rome?
  • isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 24 January 2021 00: 24
    +5
    Quote: Vladest
    Your history is not yet 30 years old.

    Vladest... And who is so clever in our country who made our history not ours? Estonian historians? Or is it the level of your knowledge that our age tells you? Our, and foreign historians have not yet noticed this loss. laughing
    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
      Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 00: 46
      -11%
      Quote: isofat
      And who is so clever in our country who made our history not ours?

      Well I wrote you can appropriate anything, especially from the dead to take their history and glory.
      It's like in the USSR RI was poured with mud, but for some reason Suvorov, Nakhimov and Kutuzov began to fight for the Soviet power))) These are the tsarist satraps!
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 24 January 2021 01: 09
        +5
        Vladest... Your tricks with our language look unconvincing. When you need to, you pretend that you don't understand everything.
        1. Vladest Offline Vladest
          Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 13: 48
          -7
          Quote: isofat
          Your tricks with our language look unconvincing.

          What convincing you said?
          You would be more on the topic, but you don't need to be rude to mind.
          Not a word about me in the article.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 24 January 2021 14: 54
            +5
            Vladest, your lamentations that you shouldn't be rude do not make you a polite and cultured person. I hope you are aware of this.

            About speaking on the topic ...
            You've made five comments so far, and they're all off-topic.
            1. Vladest Offline Vladest
              Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 17: 09
              -7
              Quote: isofat
              Vladyest, your lamentations that you shouldn't be rude do not make you a polite and cultured person. I hope you are aware of this.

              With you by your own methods. I have never discussed you. And if you are on the topic of discussing ZERO, then get off the topic.
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 24 January 2021 18: 06
                +1
                Vladest... Remember the words of the great Suvorov? The main thing is to make the Turk run - then no one will stop him. yes
                1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                  Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 18: 40
                  -7
                  Quote: isofat
                  Vladiest. Remember the words of the great Suvorov? The main thing is to make the Turk run - then no one will stop him.

                  There is nothing static in the World and History. Turks before Suvorov spread rot Russia for centuries. If we take the time period, then the domination of the Ottoman Empire was much longer than after Peter's Russia. Count the time from the capture of Constantinople to Suvorov. ... And Suvorov himself was in another state.
                  It is easy to be proud of victories. Have you forgotten Tsushima?
                  1. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 24 January 2021 19: 52
                    +2
                    Quote: Vladest
                    Count the time from the capture of Constantinople to Suvorov.

                    Rus, collecting the army, in 680 they went to plunder Constantinople. smile

                    In St. Petersburg, there was a case, a group of historians even proposed to count the statehood of Russia not from 682, but from 680, just because of those events. We left it as it was in 682.

                    This date, 682, was substantiated by the scientists of the Russian Empire, as the beginning of the statehood of Russia.

                    PS For understanding. The presence of an army is one of the signs of statehood, and therefore this discussion of scientists took place in St. Petersburg.
                  2. Vladest Offline Vladest
                    Vladest (Vladimir) 25 January 2021 14: 13
                    -4
                    Quote: isofat
                    Quote: Vladest
                    Count the time from the capture of Constantinople to Suvorov.

                    Rus, collecting the army, in 680 they went to plunder Constantinople. smile

                    In St. Petersburg, there was a case, a group of historians even proposed to count the statehood of Russia not from 682, but from 680, just because of those events. We left it as it was in 682.

                    This date, 682, was substantiated by the scientists of the Russian Empire, as the beginning of the statehood of Russia.

                    PS For understanding. The presence of an army is one of the signs of statehood, and therefore this discussion of scientists took place in St. Petersburg.

                    Traditions are visible.
                    Putin will say they will measure the first person. Tartary to help)))
                    But it will be History for internal use.
  • Shadow041 Offline Shadow041
    Shadow041 24 January 2021 09: 54
    +7
    Our history is hundreds of years, if not thousands, it is a non-state sick with Russophobia that separated from Russia for a week and not a fact that they will last long
  • chemyurij Online chemyurij
    chemyurij (chemyurij) 24 January 2021 13: 17
    +1
    Quote: Vladest
    Your history is not yet 30 years old.

    Yours does not exist at all, from the word no.
  • zz811 Offline zz811
    zz811 (Vlad Pervovich) 23 January 2021 23: 29
    +3
    banal trolling
  • Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 00: 15
    -12%
    Here we should especially remember Syria. At the beginning of 2020, the Russian Federation and Assad decided to finally cleanse Idlib of the opposition. But the Turks were somehow dumb to accept a couple of million more refugees. And the decision was made to carry out Operation Spring Shield. Russia and Assad are used to fighting partisans without air defense and air force. And then the Turks with the whole bouquet of military means.
    You can see how their UAVs worked here.



    Assad's equipment is of course Russian, and God himself does not know how many lamas it was pressed there. But the Russian Federation is definitely a pretty penny.
    And Idlib has not yet been captured. You see, the Turks will add it to themselves. Crimea Our thing is contagious.
    1. Binder Online Binder
      Binder (Miron) 24 January 2021 06: 00
      -7
      Quote: Vladest
      Idlib has not yet been captured. You see, the Turks will add it to themselves. Crimea Our thing is contagious.

      Easy. They will simply declare this territory some kind of Free Republic of Idlib, even hold a referendum among the Turkomans there and get the desired result.
    2. Shadow041 Offline Shadow041
      Shadow041 24 January 2021 10: 02
      +8
      To understand what equipment the Syrian army is armed with, it is enough to watch the InnaNews TV channel, but you have not grown up to that, with your Russophobia. You would read and watch more and write less, look smarter. The best tanks of the Syrian army are the export Soviet T-72S. Only recently, the Russian Federation transferred to Syria a part of the T-62M, T-72B from its mobilization storage reserves. In addition, judging by the video from the battlefield, not every hit in the T-72 ends with its destruction, but the Turkish Leopards-2 showed themselves in Syria as an easy target and these are the best tanks of the Turkish army.
      1. Just a cat Online Just a cat
        Just a cat (Bayun) 24 January 2021 10: 39
        +3
        If these leopards hadn't been modernized by Ukrainians, they might have lived longer. laughing
        1. Shadow041 Offline Shadow041
          Shadow041 24 January 2021 10: 42
          +6
          I don’t think so. Turkey does not have enough money for something modern, that's why its army uses old stuff, which is armed by 90% or more. The Ottomans have a lot of ambitions, but you won't get far on show-offs alone. The same Greece has a full production cycle of Leopard-2 tanks, and in Turkey there is not a single factory capable of building tanks, everything that is was purchased abroad.
          1. Just a cat Online Just a cat
            Just a cat (Bayun) 24 January 2021 16: 31
            +4
            The United States also does not have factories for the production of tanks and engines for them. Technicians are engaged in cannibalism. laughing And the Ukrainians made an anti-cumulative kit for Turkish tanks. it was these cars that were burned.
            1. Shadow041 Offline Shadow041
              Shadow041 24 January 2021 16: 33
              +6
              Well, the body kit for the Turks was made not only by the skakuasses, but also by the chosen ones (for M60 tanks), which did not save the Turks from being sent to the shaitan
      2. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 13: 41
        -8
        Quote: Shadow041
        your Russophobia

        There is no need to repeat this after Lavrov and Putin. Russians all over the world live even to go abroad for permanent residence are not afraid. You are confusing Russophobia with criticism of the idiotic policy of the Russian Federation. RF helps Assad from whom 11KK residents fled. RF helps Assad despite the fact that he is the last.
        For tanks. In Syria, the loss of not only tanks but also many other equipment. And if you imagine that there has been a civil war since 2011, then it is unlikely that by 2020 he has much of his own.
        Assad has Iran's infantry. Mat. those supplying the RF.
        1. Shadow041 Offline Shadow041
          Shadow041 24 January 2021 14: 04
          +6
          And I do not need to listen to Putin, who continues to rush around with Yeltsin's people, in the form of Chubais and company, as with some kind of jewel. I know very well how people like you treat Russians in their countries at first hand. And you are confusing the Nerus who have gone abroad with the Russians. Russians do not swear allegiance to the United States, they have their own country, and those who receive US citizenship do it. In any country, there are plenty of weapons at mobilization storage bases, and Syria is no exception. Another thing is that the weapons there are far from new, so in Syria, only elite divisions are armed with T-72, all the others use the ancient T-62 and even more ancient T-55. You are in Iran's throat and the fact that in Syria the IRGC is crushing NATO lackeys is quite predictable, you yourself bully the Iranians
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 14: 13
            -8
            Quote: Shadow041
            And I do not need to listen to Putin, who continues to rush around with Yeltsin's people, in the form of Chubais and company, as with some kind of jewel.

            Putin has enough of his boyfriends and criminals in St. Petersburg.
            But at least one thing we agree on is that he is ruining Russia.

            Quote: Shadow041
            In any country, there are plenty of weapons at the mobilization storage bases, and Syria is no exception.

            There has been a war in Syria since 11 years. What warehouses are there? When the Russian Federation came there, Assad had quite a bit of territory. That's why they came. Save Assad's skin.
            Most likely, the Russian Federation drives scrap metal there from its storage facilities for disposal.
            1. Shadow041 Offline Shadow041
              Shadow041 24 January 2021 14: 17
              +6
              Russia is being ruined by the nerus who have seized power in the Russian Federation, such as Chubais. All evil comes from your kind. In the Russian Federation, you need to change the law on citizenship, modeled on Saudi Arabia, so that people like you have only a residence permit, with the right to work and the possibility of immediate deportation from the Russian Federation for the slightest disloyalty to the Russian Federation and its indigenous population. Our `` scrap metal '' is still rolling over your graves.
    3. FrankyStein Offline FrankyStein
      FrankyStein (FrankyStein) 24 January 2021 12: 36
      +3
      When you talk about two million, you are repeating Turkish propaganda. There wasn’t even so much there before the war. The only more or less large settlement, Idlib itself, didn’t even have 200 thousand souls, a couple of three more, 50 thousand each, the rest are generally farms. This is the first thing. Secondly, refugee camps near the Turkish border have grown to !!! when the government troops took over Idlib. No bombing, shelling of the Idleb zone was carried out at all, the government army was occupied in the south and east. People then already fled to the Turkish border from Idlib from the lawlessness of the militants! But when, a few years later, the troops took Serakib, which is a stone's throw to Idlib, it was very clear who ran from it. Families of militants with looted goods stuffed into cars wrested from the population.
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 14: 18
        -8
        Quote: FrankyStein
        The only more or less large settlement itself Idlib, did not even have 200 thousand souls, another couple of three of 50 thousand, the rest are generally farms

        And the fact that there is a war in Syria and the people are fleeing from Assad and fleeing in particular to Idlib, you did not take into account. They live in tents there. 2 million is a rough estimate. There is no exact data.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 24 January 2021 16: 53
          +3
          And the fact that there is a war in Syria and the people are fleeing from Assad and fleeing in particular to Idlib, you did not take into account. They live in tents there. 2 million is a rough estimate. There is no exact data.

          Why are you hanging on to Syria? Climbed into Afghanistan, share the "secret of success", tell us how to do it right, what you have achieved laughing
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 17: 14
            -7
            Quote: 123
            Why are you hanging on to Syria? Climbed into Afghanistan, share the "secret of success", tell us how to do it right, what you have achieved

            Radio and YouTube will tell you. I said my opinion, if I'm wrong tell me what.
            Tell the troll, don't tell it to no use, just a waste of time.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 24 January 2021 17: 54
              +2
              So there is nothing to brag about. request They climbed into the country ourselves, ruined everything and now you are clever, teach others how to tell them correctly? We don't need such farm strategists No.
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 24 January 2021 00: 39
    -5
    All bullshit. Turkey is a strategic partner (like Shoigu, or Lavrov). We are ready to sell them up to the secret SU57.
    And in these countries we won (according to the media at least). In Syria, at least 3 times.
    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
      Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 01: 00
      -13%
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      All bullshit. Turkey is a strategic partner

      And for me, the Turks are only trying to screw up Russia wherever they can. Then the plane was shot down. The Russian Federation built the Turkish stream, but until winter burst out gas in the Russian Federation did not buy. They took it from Azerbaijan and Central Asia.
      And all these wars. I bought a C400 for an excuse. Yes.
      1. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 24 January 2021 17: 40
        +1
        They took it from Azerbaijan and CENTRAL ASIA.
        It is strong! fellow
  • oderih Offline oderih
    oderih (Alex) 24 January 2021 01: 18
    +4
    Honestly, the evaluative opinion of the Limitrophe is already annoying
    1. Uneven Offline Uneven
      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 24 January 2021 11: 36
      -8
      You are very self-critical.
  • Mubariz Mubariz Offline Mubariz Mubariz
    Mubariz Mubariz (Mubariz Mubariz) 24 January 2021 09: 29
    -6
    Russia is stronger than Turkey thanks to the nuclear triad; in a direct non-nuclear armed clash, the Turks are not much inferior to the Russians.
    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
      Vladest (Vladimir) 24 January 2021 10: 22
      -8
      Quote: Mubariz Mubariz
      Russia is stronger than Turkey

      Russia is stronger than Turkey even without the nuclear reactor. The trouble for Russia is that it has no strategic partners. She is one .
  • Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 24 January 2021 11: 01
    -3
    Russia NEVER FEARED ANYONE! This is confirmed by centuries of history

    Yes, when the enemy is 30 km away. from Moscow and went to the Volga, there is nothing to be afraid of, further a complete rout. A cornered rat is also dangerous.
    Today's Russia is afraid of everyone: Romanians, Moldovans, Ukrainians and other Czechs. Everyone knows the reason for this fear - money and children abroad. Moscow is not afraid of conditional Voronezh residents - there are definitely none of them there.
  • Obama Barack Offline Obama Barack
    Obama Barack (Obama Barack) 24 January 2021 14: 38
    +5
    Search our ship again, then you will understand who is afraid of whom.
  • Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 24 January 2021 16: 02
    -5
    Search our ship again, then you will understand who is afraid of whom.

    In the ports of Ukraine, at least 4 Russian steamships (for Crimea) have been arrested and are tied up. So what? Wiped off.
    Nobody is afraid of the current oligarchic Russia with money in the West!
  • marciz Offline marciz
    marciz (Stas) 24 January 2021 16: 24
    -4
    To be afraid of Ukraine and even more so of Turkey !!!!!)))))
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 24 January 2021 19: 41
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    - But what about Orthodox unity and Orthodox solidarity ?! Especially after Erdogan turned the original Christian cathedral into a mosque ?!
  • eco3 Online eco3
    eco3 (erwin vercauteren) 24 January 2021 20: 25
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    haha listen to the pariah and the biggest beggar of the EU stupid Greeks better find out some facts Turkey is replayed in all areas by the Russians its many battles that win the war ask our German friends they experienced it first-hand Turks are marauders of cultures, and Russia is civilization culture big difference Greeks never won anything even Alexander the Great was a Turk if you want to play fair
  • yaskrn skrnlshu Offline yaskrn skrnlshu
    yaskrn skrnlshu (yaskrn skrnlshu) 27 January 2021 18: 23
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    for me the Greeks and Bulgarians .. worse than the Armenians. meaner and more cunning.