Expert: Great Britain is about to collapse


Well-known Scotland-born 67-year-old journalist, former BBC staffer, TV presenter and writer Gavin Esler is confident of a serious crisis in the UK, which threatens the collapse of the United Kingdom. He wrote about this in his yet unpublished book "How Britain Ends - English Nationalism and the Revival of Four Nations", quotes from which are quoted by the British newspaper Daily Mail.


According to the author, most of the inhabitants of Scotland have several identities at once. They feel that they are not only Scots, but also British and Europeans at the same time.

However, Britain's exit from the European Union hurt the picture of self-identification. Now, many of those who voted against Scottish independence in a referendum in 2014 are willing to support the region's secession from Britain.

The author explains that a significant proportion of Scots are most eager to stay in the EU, and they don't care about Brexit.

Most Scots have an outright disgust at Westminster since 2016

- said Esler, who lives in London.

The author writes that the Scots are extremely annoyed by the apparent incompetence of the last two British governments. This is especially true of the current Cabinet of Boris Johnson. He sadly states that Johnson was never able to rally British citizens during the COVID-19 pandemic and now "the United Kingdom is united in name only", although common problems have brought people closer together for centuries.

Esler drew attention to the fact that even the coronavirus in different regions of the UK is being fought with different methods. Moreover, it is not only the health care systems that differ, this is manifested in all areas, from education to religion.

In the seething rage of English nationalism, we witness the first omens of the end of Britain

- he explains.

The author believes that maintaining the status quo after Brexit is no longer possible in principle. Therefore, there is an option of "re-creating Great Britain through rethinking, the catalyst of which will be discontent." Failure to do so would make the secession of Scotland and possibly Northern Ireland a reality. This crisis "will be much more complex, messy, costly and bitter than Brexit."

He recalled the words of the First Minister of Scotland, Nikola Sturgeon, that many Scots are unhappy with the ignorance of their interests in London and if they want to leave any union, it is the United Kingdom.

I have come to believe that Great Britain is indeed coming to an end. I hear no alarm calls. This is the death knell

- the expert sums up.
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  1. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 17 January 2021 12: 38
    +5
    Freedom of Scotland !!!
  2. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 17 January 2021 13: 11
    -6
    Quote: 123
    Freedom of Scotland !!!

    Right! And nafig that sevpotok-2 built? Better a whiskey line from Scotland to Russia would be carried out. And it would be cheaper, and the workload would be 100% .. And the people are just good, and everything is clear !!!
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 17 January 2021 13: 51
      +3
      Right! And nafig that sevpotok-2 built? Better a whiskey line from Scotland to Russia would be carried out. And it would be cheaper, and the workload would be 100% .. And the people are just good, and everything is clear !!!

      You thought they would drive whiskey on it? With your addictions, you would go to Europe to drink, so to speak, to the world leaders of the alcohol syndrome, well, closer to the source.

      Europe has the highest per capita alcohol consumption, the highest prevalence of episodic heavy drinking
      and the world's lowest rates of complete abstinence from alcohol (WHO, 2018). therefore
      it is not surprising that alcohol-related share of total mortality in Europe
      exceeds a similar share in any other region of the world
      ... It is estimated that every tenth
      deaths in Europe are attributable to alcohol consumption (WHO, 2018).

      https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/336160/WHO-EURO-2020-1239-40989-55615-rus.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

      And in Russia, alcohol consumption is declining. What is 100% utilization here?

      The results obtained are confirmed by new data from Russian Federation, which show that the establishment of a certain form of Tsmin withcontributed, among other policies, to reduce alcohol consumption and alcohol-related morbidity and mortality

      (same link)
      1. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
        Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 17 January 2021 16: 10
        -7
        so in Europe, in the same Scotland, alcohol is of high quality and real, but we have counterfeit and glass with hawthorn for ordinary people ...
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 17 January 2021 16: 18
          +4
          so in Europe, in the same Scotland, alcohol is of high quality and real, but we have counterfeit and glass with hawthorn for ordinary people ...

          How do you know? laughing Do you often visit Scotland or whip glass in the alley? sad
          A pig will find dirt, European ones are no different in this regard. What is good is that our livestock is declining, they are leaders.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 17 January 2021 22: 26
            +3
            123, he only has enough money for "Hawthorn". Let him dream about arriving in the United States, there you can defeat the Magazin ... Democracy, in a word. smile
    2. cmonman Offline cmonman
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) 18 January 2021 20: 44
      -1
      Better a whiskey line from Scotland to Russia would be carried out.

      I agree!!! 100%
      And upload Dalmore 15, amazing scotch tape, drinking with my wife for many years.
      And do not believe 123 that alcohol consumption in Russia is falling due to the growing consciousness of the population. Nothing like this!!! Consumption falls as consuming shoals die out !! If you look at both graphs - consumption and mortality, they coincide !!!
      1. magma Offline magma
        magma (Tatyana) 19 January 2021 07: 12
        +1
        Quote: cmonman
        drinking with my wife for many years.

        - well, now everything is clear. This explains a lot from what you wrote. lol
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 19 January 2021 13: 02
          0
          Yes Yes. Does not dry out. And the parasite gets his wife drunk! laughing
        2. cmonman Offline cmonman
          cmonman (Garik Mokin) 19 January 2021 16: 51
          -1
          !!!!!!! +++++ !!!!!!
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 19 January 2021 17: 39
            0
            !!!!!!! +++++ !!!!!! fool
      2. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
        Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 19 January 2021 12: 18
        0
        Finally, at least one sane person was found and everything was correctly compared and contrasted. +
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 19 January 2021 13: 04
          0
          Igor Berg, they won't pour you, don't suck up.
          1. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
            Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 19 January 2021 13: 35
            0
            sorry ... but I was told that the Scots are normal, simple guys, friendly and hospitable ..
  3. Xazarin Offline Xazarin
    Xazarin (Xlor) 17 January 2021 13: 33
    +5
    I hope to see independent Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in my lifetime!
  4. Pandiurin Offline Pandiurin
    Pandiurin (Pandiurin) 17 January 2021 13: 40
    +4
    The United States set new standards for voting late last year.

    Of course, I would like to wish Scotland to achieve independence, but it is hard to believe that the shaves will allow it.

    The last time Scotland held a referendum there was also the opportunity, if I am not mistaken, to vote by mail, for example, to those citizens of Scotland who are abroad.

    Coronavirus, voices in the mail, of course, of course ...
    1. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
      Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 17 January 2021 16: 46
      -6
      At least they have referendums on this matter, and we are all happy. Have we ever had such a question? And at least someone will allow this from the Kremlin? And whoever talks about referendums here is a liberal and an enemy. So who has double standards?
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 17 January 2021 22: 02
        +6
        Quote: Igor Berg
        At least they have referendums on this matter, and we are all happy.

        This is alarming ..
        Everything that happens to them is you uncontrollably rejoice.
        And in the plural. belay
        From a referendum in Scotland to events in the United States.

        Is this your credo ??
      2. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 18 January 2021 19: 28
        +1
        At least they have referendums on this matter, and we are all happy. Have we ever had such a question? And at least someone will allow this from the Kremlin?

        What does Krymsky not suit you? Do you want to say it's time to spend in Kharkov?

        And whoever talks about referendums here is a liberal and an enemy. So who has double standards?

        Tell us about double standards in Catalonia sad
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 17 January 2021 14: 04
    -1
    Ha. TV presenter!
    For such experts, whatever happens in the future. Then the dollar will fall. Then England will disintegrate.
    You can't check, but money for a sensation now, not in the future.
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 17 January 2021 22: 23
      +1
      Then England will disintegrate.

      There were once two empires "over which the sun never sets."
      Where are those empires ... recourse
      England in its current status and at the current level of leadership is capable of any "accomplishments".
      The world is changing at an astounding speed ..
      1. Miffer Offline Miffer
        Miffer (Sam Miffers) 18 January 2021 08: 03
        0
        There were once two empires "over which the sun never sets."
        Where are those empires ... recourse

        And if closer to the native land, then you can also remember
        "The unbreakable union of free republics", which were united by the great Russia.
  6. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 17 January 2021 22: 04
    +1
    Call to Doctor Who!
  7. Evgeny Popov Offline Evgeny Popov
    Evgeny Popov (Evgeny Popov) 17 January 2021 23: 13
    0
    Something the author (some of) is confused.
    England is England.
    United Kingdom - England + Scotland, Northern Ireland and small things.
    Great Britain - UK + former colonies.
    1. Miffer Offline Miffer
      Miffer (Sam Miffers) 18 January 2021 08: 32
      0
      United Kingdom - England + Scotland, Northern Ireland and small things.

      Not. There is Shoo Wales available.

      UK - UK + former colonies

      Not. Only do not tell the Indians that they are part of your "Great Britain", otherwise they offend TsTso and may knock on the face.

      Shoyta, author of "Evgeny Popov" NIMNOGA putaIZTSO.

      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Содружество_наций
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Великобритания
  8. instead of Great Britain there will be Micro-British, that's all!
  9. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 01: 01
    -2
    Was he checked by a psychiatrist? Although next time we can discuss aliens in ancient times? There are gentlemen who claim that they were. Or Flat Earth. Or the Hollow Earth. There are patients for every taste.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 01: 40
      +1
      Vladest... Freedom of speech. And in Estonia, as with freedom of speech, do they not oppress, just honestly? smile
    2. magma Offline magma
      magma (Tatyana) 19 January 2021 05: 54
      0
      Quote: Vladest
      Was he checked by a psychiatrist? Although next time we can discuss aliens in ancient times? There are gentlemen who claim that they were. Or Flat Earth. Or the Hollow Earth. There are patients for every taste.

      You are just like Khrushchev - There are two opinions, one is mine and the other is stupid.

      PS By the way, have you checked it yourself? So, just in case. You know how it happens ... wink
  10. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 09: 21
    -2
    Quote: isofat
    Freedom of speech. And in Estonia, as with freedom of speech, do they not oppress, just honestly?

    What's wrong with freedom of speech in Estonia?
    Our president is not afraid to say Navalny's name)))) It's a joke.
    Everyone has their own concept of "freedom of speech". Lies can also be considered freedom of speech? For example, about the dying out Estonia and the dying economy on Sputnik. Although I learned this when I was in Estonia from an original source.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 11: 02
      +3
      Vladest, when you answer and want to be answered, use the ANSWER button. It is below, each comment is provided with such a button. The person to whom you answered will know about it. The bell in the upper right corner will notify him, both sound and number. Then, by placing the cursor on the bell, he will see the topic, be able to move and read your answer. The site is large, often people participate in the discussion of several topics and simply may not notice your answer. This mechanism is convenient, thanks to the creator (of the site). smile

      I heard your answer about freedom of speech, and I did not like it. Has it really not acquired a strict definition for the entire time of using this term? With this interpretation, it becomes worthless.

      PS If I understood correctly, you came to prove that Estonia is still alive?
  11. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 11: 16
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    PS If I understood correctly, you came to prove that Estonia is still alive?

    Thanks for the instruction. In order to prove something, you need to have a topic for what you need to prove. Although your remark above speaks of your complete knowledge of Estonia.
    I must say right away that the growth rate of the Estonian economy is higher than the Russian one, as is the standard of living. If necessary, I can give the numbers. Just like you are yours. Only facts, not blah, blah. I'm not here to do educational work for the illiterate ..
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 11: 22
      +1
      Quote: Vladest
      I'm not here to do educational work for the illiterate ..

      Vladest, why are you here?
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 18 January 2021 13: 35
      +2
      In general, the situation in the European Union looks like this. European structural and investment funds have spent 6 billion euros over 69 years, an average of 11,5 billion per year.

      https://cohesiondata.ec.europa.eu/stories/s/n4ee-2h83

      For the 2014-2020 program period, the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF) provides about 69 billion euros in EU budget support to stimulate innovation and productivity in European enterprises. This makes ERDF the largest source of EU funds to support businesses of all sizes.

      41% of this amount goes through the European Agricultural Fund for Rural Development (EAFRD) - European Agricultural Fund for Rural Development
      54,8% through the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF) - European Regional Development Fund
      Let's see where this money goes. Most (74%) are subsidies. 801 enterprises receive funds to maintain competitiveness. That is, about 371 billion a year is spent on subsidies. This is such a market economy.
      https://cohesiondata.ec.europa.eu/stories/s/Measuring-progress-in-regional-support-for-enterpr/r36v-vmcg

      For 6 years, Estonia has received 738 euros (approximately 506 million annually) through these funds alone, 646 million for industry and 123 million for agriculture.
      https://cohesiondata.ec.europa.eu/themes/3#financing

      There are also other “cash” funds. Just for example, the Solidarity Fund allocates money for disaster recovery and so on. Yes, the amount is not big 1,29 million. I will repeat this is just an example.
      https://cohesiondata.ec.europa.eu/stories/s/qpif-qzyn
      How many such funds and which of them are the amount of a mystery, there are probably programs for the development of infrastructure, ecology, education, and so on. It’s a pity for time to sort out all these intricacies.
      Estonia's GDP for 2014-2020 looks like this (in dollars):
      2014 26,82 billion + 6,08%: 2015 23,06 billion -14,01%: 2016 24,27 billion + 5,24%: 2017 26,94 billion + 11,01 %: 2018 30,65 billion + 13,74%: 2019 31,48 billion + 2,71%: 2020 30,47 billion -3,20%. According to my calculations, this is an average growth of 3,5% per year.

      I understand that the calculations are not entirely correct, but I do not want to go deeper, they give a general idea of ​​the size of the Estonian economy. So, on average over 6 years the volume of the economy is 27,17 billion dollars, at the current exchange rate of dollars it is 22,52 billion euros. Growth of 3,5% is 788 million euros per year, of which only subsidies from the above two funds amount to 123 million. And without them, economic growth is already less than 3,5%, in general, the figure was not particularly impressive. Moreover, I am sure that if you dig deeper, the origin of the remaining 665 million per year will be found among the receipts from other funds.

      Now tell us how Estonian ships sail the vastness of big business smile

      Only facts, not blah, blah. I'm not here to do educational work for the illiterate ..
    3. magma Offline magma
      magma (Tatyana) 19 January 2021 06: 08
      0
      Quote: Vladest
      I'm not here to do educational work for the illiterate ..

      How so, you wrote in your last comment that you are here for this. Now turn on the back ...

      Quote: Vladest
      In particular, I am here to bring such authors to clean water.

      Be consistent. You do not want us to think that you are a common ... verbiage (if culturally).
  12. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 11: 26
    -3
    Quote: isofat
    why are you here?

    Do you happen to have a memory disorder? Now freedom of speech in Estonia, now not dying Estonia, now me.
    Do you bring at least one topic to the end?
    Although in response, why are you here?
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 11: 42
      +2
      Quote: Vladest
      Although in response, why are you here?

      Including in order to engage in educational work.
      I thought that the stories about the slowness of the Balts were fairy tales. It turns out not. What topic do you consider unfinished? lol
  13. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 12: 41
    -3
    Quote: isofat
    Including in order to engage in educational work.

    I have a legacy. My father was a lecturer all his life. Transferred. I remember from childhood his lectures on "The Beastly Face of American Capitalism" and "Decaying Capitalism". The USSR has died since then. And the US and Capitalism are flourishing. And my father turns out to compose people's brains. But when the Baltic states went to independence, We went together in a chain.
    And so is Freedom of speech in Estonia. What is your problem with this freedom? I gave you examples of "freedom of speech" from Sputnik.
    Lies are also Free Speech?
    The truth is that Estonia is a very successful state. After the collapse of the USSR, perhaps the most successful of the former Soviet Socialist Republics.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 13: 49
      +3
      Quote: Vladest
      The USSR has since died. And the US and Capitalism are flourishing.

      Your father is a wonderful person, be proud of him.

      You are wrong about the USSR. Perestroika had to begin. The scenario with this very restructuring turned out to be not the best, but honestly, it was bad. Who and how was rebuilt then remains to be clarified by History. What is the role of our "American friends" in this. How strongly their participation affected the outcome ...

      The worst - civil war was avoided. Then Yeltsin's rule, his unexpected resignation. And almost immediately, after the coming to power of V.V. Putin, not controlled by the United States, the Kursk nuclear submarine was destroyed ...

      Today Perestroika has begun all over the world, and it is good that the USSR was the first to realize its necessity, this greatly increases the chances of a successful outcome for modern Russia. Again, with the coronavirus, a lot is not clear ...
  14. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 14: 15
    -1
    Quote: 123
    Now tell us how Estonian ships sail the vastness of big business

    As always, the root is forgotten. Why does the EU give money not only to Estonia, but to all new members. This will help them reach 70-75% of the average developed level. That is, the developed and the rich HELP. This is bad ?
    For Estonia, this is something around 700 million a year. Minus your contribution to Estonia. Purely from the EU is 500 million.
    It is considered that Estonia has reached the set 70% and the subsidies will be reduced. But the EU is a union and the union has the right to decide what and how to do.
    The development result of Estonia at this stage is very positive. If we take the qualitative indicators of the development of the state, you can hardly show what is better in Russia. Russia is the size and the shaft.
    Russia has everything that nature can give behind. In natural resources once or twice and missed.
    Let's not do demagoguery. What can Russia give its citizens better than the state of Estonia to its own?
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 14: 24
      0
      Quote: Vladest
      What can Russia give its citizens better than the state of Estonia to its own?

      Sovereignty, for example. smile
    2. Dear sofa expert. 18 January 2021 16: 48
      +2
      That is, the developed and the rich HELP. This is bad ?
      For Estonia, this is something around 700 million a year. Minus your contribution to Estonia. Purely from the EU, it is 500 million.

      It's not bad. The pigs are also well fed to be eaten later.

      The money you are talking about here for the period 2014-2020 amounted to 4,4 billion euros. Of these - 3,6 billion, in the course of the so-called "coercive" policy (policy of cohesion) of the EU.

      And as my colleague Isofat correctly noted, it is this money that is responsible for the fictitious "growth" of the Estonian economy.

      Everything would be fine, but the fact is that the program is over.

      Then you have to "grow" yourself.

      It is interesting to see how you will do this, especially considering that during your independence the population of Estonia has decreased by 15%. This is a catastrophic, for your small country, the outflow of the youngest, qualified and able-bodied personnel to the “near European countries”.

      You were simply milked, as the rest of the European periphery (Latvians, Lithuanians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Poles, etc.)

      Later, all you have to do is spit it out. Or even not you, but what is left of you.
    3. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 18 January 2021 19: 53
      0
      As always, the root is forgotten. Why does the EU give money not only to Estonia, but to all new members. This will help them reach 70-75% of the average developed level. That is, the developed and the rich HELP. This is bad ?

      What new members are we talking about? If Italy and Germany are new, then who are the old ones? Take a look at the diagram from the link. Industry and agriculture dates from all over the EU, otherwise you are not competitive.
      https://cohesiondata.ec.europa.eu/themes/3#financing

      For Estonia, this is something around 700 million a year. Minus your contribution to Estonia. Purely from the EU is 500 million.

      Here I am about the same yes These numbers are suspiciously consistent with economic growth. smile We remove subsidies and there is no growth, it is exaggerated, fictitious, and so on.

      It is considered that Estonia has reached the set 70% and the subsidies will be reduced. But the EU is a union and the union has the right to decide what and how to do.

      This is bad news, as practice shows, Estonia is not able to live independently, only subsidies, either from the USSR or from the EU.

      The development result of Estonia at this stage is very positive. If we take the qualitative indicators of the development of the state, you can hardly show what is better in Russia. Russia is the size and the shaft.

      Why is he so positive? How many subsidies have been pumped in, so much growth is shown. What quality indicators are you talking about? Yes, we have different sizes. What is Estonian Economy? American pilots are on duty there, they spent money in taverns, urinated on the square, paid a fine, and so on. GDP grew by 5%. The Germans replaced them, they were more modest, they drank beer on the sly, GDP collapsed by 5%. These are the economic factors laughing Naturally exaggerating, but I hope the meaning is clear. All your quality indicators are based on the goodwill of Berlin. stop giving money, go and beg. Basically, you boast about Merkel's kindness.

      Russia has everything that nature can give behind. In natural resources once or twice and missed.
      Let's not do demagoguery. What can Russia give its citizens better than the state of Estonia to its own?

      You do not understand? Estonia is a subsidized state. you are the backsliders of the European Union. All you think the state gives you is handouts from Berlin.
      By the way, did you promise anything about the numbers? Apart from 500-700 million grants, I did not notice anything worthy of attention. request
      If you do not use the "reply" button, your comment will be lost. hi
  15. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 14: 24
    -4
    Quote: isofat
    Today Perestroika began all over the world, and it is good that the USSR was the first to realize it.

    This is demagoguery. Anyone with a head will improve their economy. Moreover, the state.
    The USSR just died out of not being able to manage and stupid ideology. China made a conclusion for itself and recognized that "decaying capitalism" is very useful.
    Just like that, everyone was waiting for a push from some kind of unsuccessful restructuring in the USSR)))
    When I compare the collapse of the USSR and Bregsit, it even becomes funny. Everything from the USSR is friendly. Bregzit - how many years they suffered. And the EU wants to. NEW USSR)))
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 14: 54
      0
      VladestI understand your feelings. You cannot forgive the collapse of the USSR. Perhaps those events affected you personally, or your loved ones. Let's not quarrel, we are neighbors. Your country's leadership took responsibility when they decided to leave the Union.
  16. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 14: 38
    -2
    Quote: isofat
    Sovereignty, for example.

    Another interpretation of this sovereignty would not be bad. As well as Freedom of Speech for lying)))
    And as if someone I and all my surroundings are deprived of it.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 15: 08
      0
      Quote: Vladest
      Another interpretation of this sovereignty would not be bad.

      State sovereignty - the independence of the state in foreign affairs and the supremacy of state power in internal affairs. (this is not an interpretation, rather a definition)

      I always ask democrats about freedom of speech, but they never really explained what it is. smile
  17. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 15: 46
    -3
    Quote: isofat
    Your country's leadership has taken responsibility

    Our prime minister has resigned. His party was seen in corruption.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 16: 35
      0
      Even earlier, Estonian Interior Minister Mart Helme resigned. I noticed.

      I put the bread on, I have to take it out soon. I will free myself and I will reassure you, no state can cope with corruption yet. yes
  18. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 18: 23
    -3
    Quote: isofat
    State sovereignty - the independence of the state in foreign affairs

    Then I do not understand why the Russian Federation is constantly adjusting to China. In China, Russia is looked at lightly. They even have a characteristic of the Russian Federation as "Little Sister". Ask what it means to them.
    And in real life, the size of the Russian economy for China is simply small. They can buy everything with giblets. And there is nowhere to go to China. So much sovereignty.
    At least under China, but with sovereignty.
    RF will die if it does not trade. Backwardness in technology and many, many things.
    But V.V. Putin will save the Russian Federation. I'm sure)) He does not obey the States like Yeltsin (((
  19. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 18: 35
    -2
    Quote: isofat
    I set the bread

    I was skiing today. There will be no winter in Estonia. And when it was under 30 minus. And there is no need to calm me down. I am calm as an iceberg. But also for the TRUTH.
    Bread is a good thing. We do not do bad business on it. Mini bakeries. 3-4 euros per loaf. And they buy.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 18: 57
      +1
      Vladest... It is necessary to talk about England, on the topic. What do you know about the English monarchy? She is predicted to disintegrate. And according to the laws of development, it seems like it should be.

      PS I bake bread for myself, so sometimes it's a hobby.
  20. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 18: 43
    -1
    Quote: Dear sofa expert.
    Then you have to "grow" yourself.

    Who would teach. Having everything to be worse than Estonia.
    Find labor productivity rankings by country. Estonia is ahead of the Russian Federation. You can't do that for subsidies. Respected.
    Fixed assets were corrected for subsidies. Do you know what it is?
    In the Russian Federation, they still have a wear rate of 50% or more. Now and then there are tanks bursting and you only hear in the news about the heroes of the plumbing fixing another accident on the heating main ..
    What is the wear rate of the OF?
    We have not had paper work books since 2000. Everything is in the PC. And you can drive without a license for 10 years.
    And the garbage has been sorted since 2000. And the container does not lie in mountains in the bushes.
    Maybe something about the Russian Federation is the same about achievements?
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 18 January 2021 21: 11
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      Who would teach. Having everything to be worse than Estonia.
      Find labor productivity rankings by country. Estonia is ahead of the Russian Federation. You can't do that for subsidies. Respected.

      How else can you do it yes do you think that such hardworking and the production process is remarkably organized, therefore the productivity is high?

      Labor productivity is calculated by the formula: the value of all final goods and services that are produced in the country, divided by the value of the goods (services) produced. Well, or how much gross domestic product is produced on average by one person. Moreover, accounting is carried out in dollars. How correct such calculations are is a big question.

      Take, for example, the productivity of a medical team doing the same type of surgery in Russia and the United States: the cost of such a service in Russia (say, 200 rubles, that is, less than $ 000) and in the United States ($ 2000) gives us a calculation productivity (in the cost of paid services per doctor), more than 50 times higher in the United States than in Russia, which is absolutely incorrect.

      As for Estonia specifically, your "high" labor productivity is due to the high exchange rate of the euro, to which you have a rather indirect relationship. laughing

      Fixed assets were corrected for subsidies. Do you know what it is?
      In the Russian Federation, they still have a wear rate of 50% or more. Now and then there are tanks bursting and you only hear in the news about the heroes of the plumbing fixing another accident on the heating main ..
      What is the wear rate of the OF?

      Why lie then? Or have you read some nonsense somewhere and are broadcasting to us? Depreciation rate of fixed assets is 37,8%
      https://rosstat.gov.ru/folder/14304

      This is certainly a lot, but not 50%, and work in this direction is underway. Dynamics of entering fixed assets by reference:
      https://rosstat.gov.ru/storage/mediabank/uqLASFAL/VV_graf.pdf

      The pace is quite decent. Do you have them better? Boast, present to the public. And preferably what you do yourself and not on subsidies sad

      We have not had paper work books since 2000. Everything is in the PC.

      Is this a huge achievement? Do you want to say Estonia will be cooler in IT technologies? Do not make me laugh. Almost everything can be done on the Internet. One site of the State Service is worth something.
      https://www.gosuslugi.ru/

      Do you have something similar?

      And without a license, you can drive for 10 years.

      In our villages, where everyone knows each other by sight, this also happens laughing

      And the garbage has been sorted since 2000. And the container does not lie in mountains in the bushes.

      Garbage in our country has also been sorted for a long time, how successful is a controversial issue. We have no time. Can you do it? And if the container is lying around in the bushes, then it's all the Baltic tourists shit sad

      Maybe something about the Russian Federation is the same about achievements?

      All that you write can be attributed to achievements is garbage collection. Well, your territory is scanty, I got up in the morning and got out of it. it's more difficult with us. What else do you have to present? smile
  21. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 19: 43
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    Quote: isofat
    We must also talk about England

    Why is their monarchy. Only the symbol remained. But many countries, even being independent, are proud to wear the "royal" symbol. This is how one should live and keep the state for centuries and remain a friend of its former colonies.
    There will always be someone who doesn't like something and wants to demolish it to the ground. But practice has shown on the example of RI that there is no benefit from this.
    If Syria, Venezuela, Belarus manage to survive, then England will definitely not collapse, Like the United States and all developed countries. The rabble always have something to eat, what they wear and where to sleep. For most, this is not rebellious enough to live. For the collapse of the revolution, the people need a lot.
    How great would Russia be now and there is revenge in it both to the tsar and to all its heroes Denikin, Kolchak, Yudenich. But all became enemies. And there were really heroes of Russia.
    There is no nation more divided than in Russia. This and the Second World War showed ..
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 20: 07
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      Vladest, you, refusing to discuss the alleged collapse of England, litter this post with a flood. Excuse me, I will end communication with you in this thread. I thought about Estonians that they were different. You may be very young.
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 23: 51
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        Quote: isofat
        you refusing to discuss England's alleged breakup

        I already wrote earlier that there will be no decay. Or is silly chatter better?
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 19 January 2021 00: 46
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          Vladest, and what smart words you no longer have?
  22. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 20: 04
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    Quote: Dear sofa expert.
    It is interesting to see how you will do this, especially considering that during your independence the population of Estonia has decreased by 15%. This is a catastrophic, for your small country, the outflow of the youngest, qualified and able-bodied personnel to the “near European countries”.

    There is no disaster the population has been growing for three years. The conditions have been created in the country and the people went to Estonia for permanent residence. And from Russia too.
    You need to update the ROM. But the Russian Federation last year minus 600 thousand of the population. Before you judge others, look in the MIRROR)))
    https://ng.ach.gov.ru/
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 18 January 2021 21: 08
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      Vladest... After the annexation of Crimea, according to the UN, the population of Russia increased by two million people at once.

      I remembered this because I recently read about the initiative of the Estonian MPs. They want to discuss in a referendum the initiative for Estonia to join the Russian Federation.

      I have a question for you - tell me, how many people live in Estonia now? laughing
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 18 January 2021 23: 56
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        About a million three hundred thousand.
        The annexation of Crimea was not yesterday. And at the moment the population of the Russian Federation is in the red. Almost 600 thousand last year. See for yourself. They themselves will not lie.
        Do you give a damn about a couple of million refugees from Donbass? Crimea was taken, and the residents of Lugansk and Donetsk did not give a damn about the hopes of getting to Russia.
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 19 January 2021 00: 57
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          I was not too lazy to look at the data for Estonia.

          Estonian population 2020

          According to our estimate, at the end of 2020, the population of Estonia was 1. In 322, the population of Estonia has decreased by approximately 184 people. Taking into account that the population of Estonia at the beginning of the year was estimated at 2020 people, the annual increase was -3%.

          You have negative growth.
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 19 January 2021 13: 08
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            Quote: isofat
            You have negative growth.

            2020 caronavirus. I've been writing for the last three years.
            According to the Statistics Estonia, as of 1 January 2019, 1 people lived in Estonia. Thus, the population growth in the country was 324%.
            Estonia's population grew by 2018 in 5687 due to immigration
            The population of Estonia grew by 2017 people in 3499 due to the migration balance
            Actually, this is not very important. It is important from where and where. There are districts in Berlin where 70% of the population are former Russians.
            1. isofat Offline isofat
              isofat (isofat) 19 January 2021 13: 14
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              Quote: Vladest
              I've been writing for the last three years.

              The Estonian Department of Statistics has published data on the population in the republic. It turns out that between 1990 and 2020, it decreased by 241 people, that is, by more than 623 percent. Currently, 15 people live in Estonia.
              1. Vladest Offline Vladest
                Vladest (Vladimir) 19 January 2021 13: 38
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                Quote: isofat
                It turns out that between 1990 and 2020

                This is normal. All who did not recognize independence immediately faded away. All active military personnel were also kicked out. (Do so Ukraine).
                At first, the population fell, now it will grow. Many IT specialists came from India. I personally know one. Family here citizenship. I know about a dozen guys from other countries.
                People like Estonia.
    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 19 January 2021 00: 25
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      Population of Russia 2020

      According to our estimate, at the end of 2020, the population of Russia was 145. For 963 the population of Russia increased by approximately 59 people... Considering that the population of Russia at the beginning of the year was estimated at 145 people, the annual growth was 903%.

      https://countrymeters.info/ru/Russian_Federation