The reason for the accuracy of Azerbaijan's strikes on the positions of the Armenians has been solved


During the 44-day war in Nagorno-Karabakh in the fall of 2020, footage from the drones of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces repeatedly flashed on the Web, which clearly showed that accurate missile strikes were not delivered by them, but by some other type of weapons. Now this mysterious reason has been solved.


It has been established that the Azerbaijani military used Turkish MLRS, which use the latest high-precision laser-guided TRLG-230 missiles produced by Roketsan. Moreover, the Turks use the chassis of the Russian KAMAZ-63501 as a platform for a combat vehicle.

These munitions were just tested before the start of the next escalation of the protracted conflict in Transcaucasia (late August - early September) and they were immediately tested on the battlefield. It was with these munitions that well-aimed strikes were inflicted on the positions of the Armenians. Another question is whose servicemen controlled the process.


The peculiarity of the use of these ammunition is as follows. Initially, the rocket flies using satellite communications. When approaching the target, it switches to laser guidance of the Bayraktar TB2 drone, which works as a target designator. After that, with an accuracy of about 100%, the missile hits the target.

Thus, the Turks managed to remove the main drawback of the MLRS - low accuracy. Now their multiple launch rocket systems do not need to "work off the area", they only need to use a small amount of ammunition to achieve the desired result.


This development suggests that the Turkish military-industrial complex has reached a certain technological level.
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  1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
    SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 16: 52
    -31%
    Yes, we lost, but at least we fought with the Turks, not like you Russians, you have the guts to answer the Turks. Instead, you can simply give up a weak ally to be torn apart, and then, as he is eaten, blame all the blame on him, they say, they are to blame. Nothing, nothing, maybe Armenia is too small and poor to save it, but after Karabakh the Turks will take over Kazakhstan and the rest of Central Asia, you will know then. It will be interesting to look at you when you lose Kazakhstan, and this is not Armenia, which you can not give a damn about. By the way, the Basurmans have already stepped up in this direction, and they want to sell weapons to Kazakhs. smile

    PS In what way are you now better than England with Chamberlain, who handed over Czechoslovakia to the madman Hitler? Armenians are the same Czechoslovakia only in 2020, and your friend Perdogan is Hitler. Remind me of how it ended?
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 10 January 2021 17: 10
      +5
      Your resentment is understandable, but how could Russia help you, get involved in the conflict? But you still don't recognize the NKR as a part of Armenia, then what do you want from Russia to recognize and protect? Strange, isn't it. And of course, respect to the Turks, they showed how to fight in modern war, there is the General Staff of the RF Ministry of Defense to think about, and not just waving Yars and Bulava.
      1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
        SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 17: 25
        -14%
        Syrian bastards of all stripes fought against us, just 100 kilometers from your Dagestan. You didn't even want to voice this fact, let alone get involved in a conflict. Do you think we did not understand that at a critical moment Russia will give up? But it was in your power to make a statement, even if it was unofficial, that you would not abandon your ally? Didn't you think that your reputation is also at stake, your reputation as a reliable ally? No, you didn't? In vain.

        You stubbornly refuse to admit that together with Armenia it was you who lost first of all. Turkey has already invaded your fiefdom, the Caucasus, and you continue to build nuclear power plants for them and push the S-400 away, hoping that by doing so you will destroy NATO. Well, well, how have you ruined it already?

        Didn't you want to help your ally and stop the impudent people in the Caucasus? Then stop them somewhere near Karaganda. It's more dear to you.
        1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
          rotkiv04 (Victor) 10 January 2021 17: 31
          -6
          Firstly, this is not US, this is Putin, Lavrov and the company of "concerned", I personally do not justify them, but I repeat: claims against them can be made only if Armenia would recognize NKR as part of its territory. A Turk, of course, has never been a friend for a Russian, even though the Kremlin prisoners are now trying to convince us of this.
          1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
            SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 17: 43
            -11%
            What would give you recognition? Have you thought about what would happen after the confession? Was our recognition of Karabakh beneficial to you? Well, if you don't know how to analyze, I'll do it for you. If Armenia recognized Karabakh, the Azeris would have a casus belli, a pretext for war, therefore, in order to get ahead of them after the recognition of Armenia, according to the logic of things, Karabakh should have immediately applied to join Armenia. The parliament quickly ratified the agreement and here you are, the Russians, Karabakh with Armenia and therefore under the CSTO cap. Got the idea, or should I continue?
            1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
              rotkiv04 (Victor) 10 January 2021 17: 47
              +13
              So you yourself answered the question, but about "being able to analyze" you should not think that you are smarter than others. When the NKR will be a part of Armenia and under the CSTO cap, then you will make claims and accuse of treason.
              1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
                SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 17: 51
                -10%
                And I do not claim that I am smarter than others. As for the CSTO, we simply did not frame you, because recognizing Karabakh and taking it into our membership, you Russians would have had one more headache. You would not have gotten away with the routine phrases about deep concern.
                1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
                  rotkiv04 (Victor) 10 January 2021 18: 14
                  +12
                  I say it again, about concerns about Lavrov and Co., and about the admission of the NKR to Armenia, only to your authorities, then we'll talk and I don't remember that Russia wanted to get out of its CSTO responsibilities. But then there is a counter question to your authorities - why Armenia, as a member of the CSTO, did not support the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation, why did not support its VOs, why did not make its contribution against the destruction of Russians in Donbass. Of course, I won't get an answer, and there is no particular desire, because Russia, the Russians owe everything, and when you need to lend your shoulder to the Russians, the "brothers" immediately evaporate.
                  1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                    Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 11 January 2021 11: 45
                    -10%
                    why Armenia, as a member of the CSTO, did not support the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation, why did not support with its VOs, why did not make its contribution against the destruction of Russians in Donbass

                    Let me remind you that the "annexation" of Crimea to the Russian Federation was recognized only by a pitiful handful of the most "independent" countries - on which nothing in the world depends. Why did Armenia have to recognize (support?) This Russian aggression?
                    In addition, the Russian army in 1992-1994 fought in Karabakh against the Armenians.
                    Submission of some claims to Armenia from Russia after that is excessive impudence.
                    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
                      rotkiv04 (Victor) 11 January 2021 12: 28
                      +6
                      Read the history of the annexation of Crimea to the outskirts, and then open your mouth. Crimea has always been and will be Russian, and how many "dependent" countries have not recognized the reunification of Crimea with Russia, we do not care.
                      1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 11 January 2021 12: 31
                        -7
                        Crimea has always been and will be Russian

                        World History began in the 18th century and is it over?
                      2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
                        rotkiv04 (Victor) 11 January 2021 12: 43
                        +4
                        well, remember the story from the time of the "chosen people", they fucked up the Crimea, so sit in your Sumeria, you got sick
                      3. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 11 January 2021 13: 38
                        -3
                        well, remember the story from the time of the "chosen people", they fucked up the Crimea, so sit in your Sumeria, you got sick

                        a) If history did not exist for you before the 18th century, then (without going too deeply), whose king was Ivan the Terrible?

                        b) NATO acquired the largest country after the collapse of the USSR. Didn't you lose a lot by swallowing the spinner of Crimea, which is in a strategic environment and with a bunch of other problems?
                      4. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
                        rotkiv04 (Victor) 11 January 2021 17: 46
                        +4
                        1. The history was 2000 years ago and even earlier, but in the 18th century it was in no way a suburb, and until the 18th century it was Turkish, and before the Turks it was Hellenic, so what? Lands from time immemorial passed from one people to another. Your outskirts have never been Ukrainian, have always been Russian, say thank you to Lenin and his hop company for giving you statehood.
                        2. So Russia does not need your country of hicks, NATO acquired, well, let NATO feed you, and Crimea is not a spoon, this is such a land that who controls it, controls the entire Mediterranean, and with current technologies, half of Europe, if not more. So wash toilets, wear pissing gay panties and beg for more loans from your new owners
                      5. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 12 January 2021 17: 29
                        -7
                        1) a) You did not answer my question. b) I will leave your platitudes without comment. c) The Bolsheviks put together the Empire, torn apart by various kinds of Kerensky, the spiritual fathers of the current Russian government, and made an advanced country out of a backward state. Kremlin "reformers" are dragging Russia in the opposite direction.

                        2)
                        So Russia doesn't need your country of hicks

                        This popular position of the Russian agitprop is called "Green Grapes".
                        According to Colonel General L. Ivashov, the loss of Ukraine cost Russia $ 5 trillion And these are only direct losses. The West (with the help of the Russian authorities) carried out a brilliant operation of dividing a single people into parts that hate each other.
                        Precisely according to the precepts of S. Brzezinski "Russia with Ukraine is always an Empire. Without Ukraine, never."

                        3)
                        Crimea is not a spoon, it is such a land that whoever controls it controls the entire Mediterranean

                        Are you able to confirm your statements with a technical calculation?
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                  2. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
                    akarfoxhound 12 January 2021 14: 07
                    +4
                    NATO would have been in Crimea already in 2014, so keep it for too much. And obos.s your bosses overseas, without calculating the agility of the Russian Federation. In Dzhankoy, at night, 4 Yusovskih transport vehicles on the landing circle left without a salt, the commandant's office of the airfield put trucks across the runway with incl. headlights. The mattress didn’t count on this, but we would have bothered to smoke these "Maidan niprichemyshes" from the north of Crimea. But they won't write to you about this, will they? The tender for the construction / transformation of the 5th boarding school on the northern side of the city (Sevastopol) for the engineering unit of the marines (US MARINES) was already completed in the fall of the 13th, also news? And somehow pofury what came to you in understanding and what not. Have ate this fool of yours Sumerian banderziania for 23 years and that's it, good!
                    Greetings from my native RUSSIAN Sevastopol!
                  3. Uneven Offline Uneven
                    Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 12 January 2021 17: 38
                    -5
                    1)
                    NATO would have been in Crimea already in 2014

                    a) NATO is already in Ukraine. There have been no such disasters for Russia since the collapse of the USSR.
                    b) Crimea - 4.5% of the territory of Ukraine, another subsidized region with a bunch of problems, being in a strategic environment, this is nothing compared to the loss of Ukraine by Russia!

                    2) The rest of your text could not master. Russian translation required.
                  4. ck9999999 Offline ck9999999
                    ck9999999 (C K) 18 January 2021 04: 50
                    -1
                    So this is Ukraine for NATO, a subsidized region - a promising place for refugees from Africa.
                  5. OCh Offline OCh
                    OCh (Oleg Ch) 19 January 2021 18: 16
                    -1
                    Well, the fact that ours slept through the coup in 2013 is yes. But there is no need to tell that Ukraine was dragged into NATO after the Crimea. Who in the subject already knows that in 2013 they almost overslept the Crimea ...
                  6. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
                    akarfoxhound 2 February 2021 17: 38
                    -1
                    1) NATO has been in Ukraine since 2014, it is also an investor of pots, it would just be in Crimea
                    We lost Ukraine with the maydanut jumpers during the coup, and not vice versa, do not confuse the sequence of time.
                    2) Your knowledge of the Russian language, as well as information, is not my concern
                  7. Uneven Offline Uneven
                    Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 3 February 2021 22: 19
                    -4
                    1) Before Putin swallowed the Crimean spoon, most of the Ukrainians were still against the country's membership in NATO.
                    2) Ukrainians got infected with "jumping" from Russians.
                    The "pan" theme has its own quite adequate background. Here, perhaps, the Ukrainians will have to learn a little more.
                    3) a) You can (sometimes) almost in Russian.
                    b) Do you think that mouse fuss (such as a truck on the runway) could have stopped the forceful seizure of Crimea by NATO if the States had made such a decision?
                    Everything was played out according to the West's plan.
                    The goal is Ukraine. Against this background, Crimea is nothing. But as a bait it came in handy ...
                  8. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
                    akarfoxhound 4 February 2021 23: 06
                    +1
                    Again upside down ... is it more convenient for you to look at the world?
                    1) in that scenario (Crimean), unlike you, I was, so to speak, from the inside and I have an appropriate view of things. You pulled, carried away by the conspiracy invented for yourself, an owl on the globe.
                    2) We, who do not perceive the pan contamination, thank God, the majority. There is a great desire for our police to deal with jumpers one to one, as in your beacon of democracy, using all the tools of the American police on pots, all, without exception, and with the same set of legislative measures wink
                    3) a) Not for you to poke me with the Russian language, your misunderstanding of the essence of grammar does not apply in any way
                    b) if you think that a loaded transporter at night can land on an unfamiliar, unprepared runway with an artificial obstacle on it, then your horizons towards aviation have the same relation as the prima of the Bolshoi Theater to coal mining.
                    On the 2nd day - only the commandantura of Dzhankoy remained undeveloped, and there the peddlers of democracy with a hasty seizure of at least the northern point were "broken off." At that time, I was pleasantly surprised by the consistency and clarity of the actions of the "mouse fuss" of the troops. And your "I do not believe" in essence does not play any role.
                  9. Uneven Offline Uneven
                    Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 5 February 2021 10: 21
                    -2
                    1) When NATO acquires all of Ukraine, you can forget about the Crimea, which is in the operational environment.

                    2) a) I repeat: jumping ability came to Ukraine from Russia.
                    b) If you are interested in the background of the "pan" theme, I will gladly reveal it.

                    3)
                    if you think that a loaded transporter at night can land on an unfamiliar unprepared runway

                    Do you think Americans are idiots who are not able to competently plan the operations of their army? At present, it is the only army in the world that can act as it needs, regardless of anyone's opinion, and attract for the solution of its tasks exactly the amount of forces and means that guarantees their solution.

                    4)
                    Not for you to poke me with Russian

                    You misunderstood me: I did not poke, but only asked to TRANSLATE the text into Russian.
          2. OCh Offline OCh
            OCh (Oleg Ch) 19 January 2021 18: 14
            -1
            write more about amersky hospital :)
  • OCh Offline OCh
    OCh (Oleg Ch) 19 January 2021 18: 11
    -1
    Vadim Stolbov, ISSOShnik or what? :)
    Oh, yes, exactly :)
    We work for 15 thousand hryvnia, we are not distracted :)
  • shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 13 January 2021 14: 05
    +4
    Eck flattens you. Remind me who began to spit in the direction of Russia and listen to Western advisers? Is it that Russia has directed the "vector of cooperation" to the west? You rams were warned, in a conflict situation the West will throw you. Will give neither money nor weapons. Oh, and now you're whining here, the Russians have left! And with what fright was it to interfere? CSTO you say? And read the main provisions of the agreement of the participating countries, for a start. Read it carefully. Was there a direct attack on Armenia, did the troops invade the territory of the sovereign? Did not have! Is there a reason officially established by the CSTO format for bringing in troops? No. Intervene Russian troops in the conflict, and the whole world would say Russia is an aggressor. NATO came to the aid of the Turks and from your Armenia there would be ruins, as it were, not radioactive at all. Formally, it was Armenia that attacked Azerbaijan by taking the side of the NKR. Have you recognized Karabakh? No. Azerbaijan has its right to solve internal territorial problems. But these are details. Did you want to solve the lives of our guys with your own selves with the Ottomans, when the regular army and reservists themselves were sitting in the bases all the war? Doesn't your face crack from such a freebie? Independent Armenia? So learn to solve your own selfies independently.
    1. Uneven Offline Uneven
      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 13 January 2021 15: 32
      -1
      Is it that Russia has directed the "vector of cooperation" to the west?

      Russia would have been happy, but she was brutally rejected. Putin asked NATO three times, personally addressing American presidents.
      1. shinobi Offline shinobi
        shinobi (Yuri) 13 January 2021 18: 17
        +1
        Just don't lie so primitively! Even Yeltsin eventually realized where and in what form the West sees Russia.
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      2. ΔяΔя Alik Offline ΔяΔя Alik
        ΔяΔя Alik (ΔяΔя Alik) 16 January 2021 20: 21
        0
        it was just trolling .. and sarcasm
  • kirillovleva_2 Offline kirillovleva_2
    kirillovleva_2 (Kirillov Lev) 10 January 2021 22: 57
    +1
    Azerbaijan had casus belli even when its regions surrounding Karabakh were seized, dear.
    Even the official authorities of Armenia recognize Karabakh as the territory of Azerbaijan. If Russia got involved on the side of Artsakh, it would be an attack on Azerbaijan and nothing else. And it was necessary to prepare for war - there were not even street battles for any city (Hadrut, Fizuli, etc.). Shushi practically surrendered without a fight. All these years, some have been preparing, while others will be "covered with hats" ...
  • taas Offline taas
    taas (Sergei) 11 January 2021 13: 18
    +7
    1. Armenia is a member of the CSTO, therefore, in the event of a threat to the security of Armenia, Russia is obliged to stand up for it. If Armenia recognized the NKR, and this served as a pretext for Azerbaijan's attack on Armenia, then Russia would legally use its Gyumri base and simply instructed Aliyev not to climb where he should not. Aliyev will not go anywhere, because the Russian flotilla in the Caspian will instantly destroy the entire economy of Azerbaijan.
    But Armenia itself did not recognize the NKR, and Russia has no right to intercede for the unrecognized NKR. By the way, on the forums the overwhelming majority of Armenians support the Ukrainian Crimea, for information.
    2. Pashinyan, after the election, made it clear that Russia is no longer a priority. The USA, Soros, France and the West became the direction of development of Armenia. Nobody hides it.
    Pashinyan was elected by the Armenians.
    And is this an ally of Russia?
    3. During the conflict, Pashinyan rejected all the proposals of Russia, only in a critical situation was the appeal of the Armenian leader to Russia. But Russia can support Armenia, but not NKR.
    4. Why did neither the US nor France help Armenia? Why don't the Armenians scold the Western allies, and all the anger is again directed at Russia.
    Armenia loved independent Ukraine so much, and Ukraine was on the side of Turkey during the conflict.
    1. sd000016 Offline sd000016
      sd000016 (Alexander) 13 January 2021 09: 42
      0
      taas (Sergey), well said!
    2. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 13 February 2021 19: 58
      -1
      Not respected, the Armenians are for the Russian Crimea.
  • Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
    Shmurzik (Seymslav) 11 January 2021 00: 13
    +5
    You stubbornly refuse to admit that together with Armenia it was you who lost in the first place. Turkey has already invaded your domain, the Caucasus

    The Turks invaded the patrimony, the Caucasus ... - only one (for the entire large Caucasus), small but proud Armenia, retained its virginity and purity !!! Or did they invade Armenia too?
    You have learned long ago to designate yourself as an ally, but alas ... How many countries have come out in support of Armenia, in contrast to Azerbaijan? In my opinion, it's time for you to change the inaccessible mountains on the coat of arms for a more familiar rake ... - jump to your health ...
  • Moskal 55 Offline Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 11 January 2021 01: 18
    +8
    Before that, the "ally" made an orange revolution and put Pashinyan at the head of the country. And I still haven't removed it, by the way. And this Pashinyan of all those who fought normally in Karabakh and knew how to fight, whom he simply removed, and whom he imprisoned. He tried to imprison those former leaders who had friendly relations with the Russian Federation, and filled the whole of Armenia with Srosov structures. Somehow we unofficially helped you, but you not only fought ineptly, but also mediocrely negotiated both before the outbreak of hostilities and after. The Armed Forces of Armenia did not actually fight! You and Artsakh did not recognize and did not return the neighboring regions seized from Azerbaijan. With an official statement about the participation of terrorists, ours spoke, but you had to capture and show their languages! You can't do everything for free, "allies"! How to defend - so Russia, and how to protect a peaceful life - so Soros?
    1. Uneven Offline Uneven
      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 11 January 2021 11: 56
      -12%
      1)
      And this Pashinyan of all those who fought normally in Karabakh and knew how to fight, whom he simply removed, and whom he imprisoned. Those former leaders who had friendly relations with the Russian Federation tried to imprison

      Let me remind you that the gangster corruption clan of "Karabakhites" was demolished by the united efforts of all Armenia. The whole country took to the streets and peacefully put an end to a regime similar to the Kremlin. Unlike Armenians, the patience of Russians is limitless.

      2)
      Once we unofficially helped you, but you not only fought ineptly

      And the Armenians did not forget this "help". The Russian army, taking with it Basayev, Raduev, Khattab in Karabakh in 1992-1994, fought against the Armenians on the side of Azerbaijan.
      1. Vladimir501 Offline Vladimir501
        Vladimir501 (Vladimir) 11 January 2021 12: 35
        +2
        From the very beginning you began to lie, breathe, eat and shit at the same time. Dullness as well as betrayal are equally catastrophic for both the dumb and the traitor.
        1. Uneven Offline Uneven
          Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 12 January 2021 17: 53
          -3
          You have strong arguments! But, unfortunately, not on the topic. And you made a mistake with the addressee.
  • papas-57 Offline papas-57
    papas-57 (PAPAS-57) 12 January 2021 04: 09
    +2
    Where was the army of Armenia? In the barracks. And you personally? At home. So that ...
  • Ugr Offline Ugr
    Ugr 13 January 2021 00: 34
    +3
    Of course, the Russians are to blame for placing on your throne the Mirian little Pashinyan, who brought you where. Why did you suddenly remember that the Russians had to fight for your Armenian Karabakh, it was not a part of Armenia, your president slept through it, did not stipulate that it was a part of Armenia, and did not send Armenian fighters to defend Artsakh, and yours and Karabakh the government did not ask for military protection from the attack, it is strange that Pashinyan did not ask for help from the Mirikans, they put him in power, which means all the grievances towards America and his president. And we ourselves will solve our affairs in the Caucasus, which we did more than once, in the entire history of the Turks there were 13 wars and we always kernels the Turks and if it were not for the politics, Constantinople would have been Russian. With all due respect to the people of Armenia, there is no treason behind us. Whose is it?
  • ΔяΔя Alik Offline ΔяΔя Alik
    ΔяΔя Alik (ΔяΔя Alik) 16 January 2021 20: 18
    0
    I see itching at you .. ..but not yours yourself shouted that the Russians are invaders .. Pashinyan we put you ?? .. or was he put on purpose to drain the NKAO? .. he did everything to lose .. and they told you right .. The Russians should not be more Armenians than the Armenians themselves .. you yourself piss to recognize the NKAO .... Russia honestly fulfills its agreements. ...
  • General Black Offline General Black
    General Black (Gennady) 10 January 2021 17: 43
    +8
    but after Karabakh the Turks will take over Kazakhstan and the rest of Central Asia, you will know then, the Kremlin idiots.

    And you probably write all this from Moscow? You need to prepare for war. You probably guessed there that sooner or later you will have to fight? They hoped for America. Then to Russia. Why on earth will Russia fight for you "clever men"? The territory of Karabakh is not recognized even by Armenia itself.
    1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 18: 01
      -15%
      No, I'm not in Moscow, and not even in Russia. If Russia does not want to defend its geopolitical space, for God's sake, let it not, but sooner or later it will have to answer for it.
  • 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 10 January 2021 17: 59
    +4
    Yes, we lost, but at least we fought with the Turks, not like you, you don't have the guts to answer the Turks.

    And what was the war with the Turks? Does Erdogan know that you fought with him? When and how did the brave Armenian soldiers attack the Turks? By the way, your guts were not enough to recognize Karabakh? Apparently its thickness is still limited?

    Nothing, nothing, maybe Armenia is too small and poor to save it, but after Karabakh the Turks will take over Kazakhstan and the rest of Central Asia, you will know then.

    Is Armenia the last bastion that held back the expansion of the Turks to Kazakhstan? belay

    It will be interesting to look at you when you lose Kazakhstan, and its not Armenia, which you can not give a damn about.

    Does Kazakhstan belong to Russia? Or Armenia? What's the loss? The Armenian turn to Europe did not take place, you were kicked out of Karabakh, but it turns out badly for Russia? Here some neighbors are already telling us, they say, look how bad everything is here, that's what you lost. You like to destroy your country, the flag is in your hand, a drum around your neck. Kazakhs are no different in this regard.

    By the way, the Basurmans have already stepped up in this direction, and they want to sell weapons to Kazakhs.

    Look what is being done ... Did Kazakhstan buy weapons abroad before? request


    Kazakhstan's membership in the CSTO does not prevent the republic from actively developing military-technical cooperation (MTC) with NATO.
    Among the states of the North Atlantic Alliance, Astana's leading partners in the military-technical cooperation are the USA, France, Spain and Turkey... Contacts have been established with Poland and Italy. (year 2013)

    https://asker.kz/blog/army_news/gde-zakupaet-oruzhie-kazaxstan.html

    Here is fresher ..

    Turkish defense contractor Aselsan will provide Kazakhstan with remote weapon platforms through its subsidiary in that Central Asian country, Kazakhstan, Aselsan Engineering, under a new agreement.

    https://caspiannews.com/news-detail/kazakhstan-inks-deal-with-turkish-defense-giant-for-remote-weapon-platforms-2020-4-20-36/

    How are you now better than England with Chamberlain, who handed over Czechoslovakia to the madman Hitler? Armenians are the same Czechoslovakia only in 2020, and your friend Perdogan is Hitler.

    At least the fact that nothing under Russian control was transferred to the Turks. But it is difficult to say about the territories controlled by the Armenians.

    Remind me how it all ended?

    Not worth it, remember yes

    1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 18: 20
      -15%
      Do not pretend to be naive. You all get it.
    2. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 21: 28
      -14%
      Do you remember the clever guy about this victory? Germans - 10 million, Russians - 27 million.
      1. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
        Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 10 January 2021 21: 45
        +12
        Not Russians, but the Soviet people, including Armenians, for whom the word homeland was not just empty words.
      2. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 10 January 2021 21: 51
        +14
        I will not delve into the details of the calculations and the reliability of the data. Let me just say that the difference is mainly due to the civilian population.
        It was necessary to destroy civilians in Germany to equalize the score? sad
        What are you doing to prevent this from happening? Or is all hope for Russia?
      3. Boniface Offline Boniface
        Boniface (Igor Markin) 11 January 2021 10: 53
        +5
        Lying is not good! 27 million is not combat losses, but the total number of those killed in WWII, but 10 million from the German side are combat losses.
        The score for combat losses is almost one to one.
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 11 January 2021 19: 55
          +2
          These figures prove once again that there was a genocide of the Soviet people.
        2. OCh Offline OCh
          OCh (Oleg Ch) 19 January 2021 18: 19
          0
          We have many prisoners, I must admit. Plus, the Germans lost 2 fronts. We learned to fight for a long time. But nonetheless...
      4. neri73-r Offline neri73-r
        neri73-r 11 January 2021 11: 58
        +5
        Quote: SONATA 2.0 LPG
        Do you remember the clever guy about this victory? Germans - 10 million, Russians - 27 million.

        Smart guy, read scientific works, not sor's and K media, the military score is about the same for 11 million, and that is if we take purely Germans, and if the European team, then we have a win! But with the civilian population, then yes, we, unlike the rest, passed the exam for the title - "Man", did not destroy the civilian population and did not destroy their culture.
      5. Man with a gun Offline Man with a gun
        Man with a gun (Man with a gun) 11 January 2021 19: 24
        +2
        Are you presenting to the Russians that they did not equalize the score, that they did not kill civilians like the Germans !? The number of Soviet soldiers killed, about the same as the Germans, the differences are small. The main victims are the civilian population.
      6. Restless Sagittarius (Vladimir) 12 January 2021 20: 15
        +3
        I remember the Germans had many allies, including the Armenian SS battalion, which you forgot to count. In addition, it was your fascists who blew up the Moscow metro under Brezhnev, not the Germans.
  • Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 10 January 2021 18: 13
    +19
    Why did the Armenian army sit exactly on the perch, while only the militia went to Artsakh?
    Why didn't your hucksters, from the markets of Russian cities, go and defend (as you think) their land?
    Why were the intermediaries' warnings ignored?
    Etc...

    You yourself are overdue ... or, and now looking for the extreme?
    Life has not taught you anything. Few Aliyev and Erdogan kicked you off. After presenting such, it is not a sin to add it yourself.
    1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 18: 22
      -16%
      And you, too, were kicked so robustly, and there is no need to build saints out of yourself. You only know how to fight Turkish tomatoes.
      1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
        Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 10 January 2021 18: 30
        +15
        No, really!
        It’s you who are liquid.
        And now with your stench, you want to cover up others.
        Blaguakha yourself. Say hello to Soros.
  • Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 10 January 2021 19: 35
    +12
    Pancake! All the Armenians were guilty, but not themselves! Less (ch) cheating should have been! We, Russians, remember well the Armenian (ch) scammers with posters: "Russians are invaders!"; "Russians out of Armenia!" and stuff like that! Well, okay ... and there are enough scum everywhere ... But where was the Armenian leadership with the president and prime minister at the head to stop this mess in time and soon? As the saying goes, “don’t spit in the well! Suddenly it’ll come in handy to get drunk!” ... But no .... spit! Now slurp, you are not touchy! And how could Russia start a war without a legal basis? And it was Armenia that deprived Russia of any legal basis! 1. Didn't recognize Karabakh!; 2. Didn't send a regular army to Karabakh !; Why didn't the majority of Armenians rush to save "not Armenia"? I now live in the southern city ... here are Armenians - to the bank and more! Especially during the period of hostilities, I walked around the "Armenian" places ... looked closely ... Nobody (!) Threw their barbecue-manshlyk! Nobody has stopped doing home renovation in new buildings! And so on and so forth! Therefore, do not be impudent FIG! Whose "cow" and bellowing, and yours would be better off silent. "
    1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 21: 26
      -10%
      God forbid everyone will be removed from your Russia. You will do all the dirty work yourself.
      1. eco3 Offline eco3
        eco3 (erwin vercauteren) 11 January 2021 07: 31
        +6
        Armenians and Jews always whine and accuse others of their stupidity and how to play a victim and a hero from their sofas in France America are great heroes of the table war please get out pathetic losers and cowards
      2. Vladimir501 Offline Vladimir501
        Vladimir501 (Vladimir) 11 January 2021 12: 45
        +3
        Frightened the hedgehog with his bare booty, but where are you going to go, eat what you will and who will you cheat in the markets, warehouses and road works? Well, get out, the squad will not notice the loss of a soldier, the rodents were just as brave and where is one now?
      3. Man with a gun Offline Man with a gun
        Man with a gun (Man with a gun) 11 January 2021 19: 29
        +3
        Where have you seen ara who does dirty work, except for murder, racketeering, robbery !?
  • zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 10 January 2021 19: 39
    +1
    Is this the ASSR. One of the republics of Russia? So the ASSR is not a republic of Russia either. You, sir, would have turned to your history, before you were glued to the USSR.
  • carlo Offline carlo
    carlo (carlo) 10 January 2021 20: 09
    +7
    Why on earth should we fight for you? Who you are? Gifts are over, separately, so separately. Karabakh is not Armenia, they themselves decided so. I understand that the whole Armenian army was killed ... No. They stayed at home.
    1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 21: 25
      -8
      Which of you are warriors? And who asked you to fight for us? The question is that you, even in words, did not want to support us. Allies.
      1. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
        Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 10 January 2021 21: 52
        +13
        People like you are not allies, just a provocateur, maybe not even an Armenian, but some kind of cross, without a homeland and a flag, sits somewhere in the warmth and disgraces the Armenians, He himself does not want to fight, he is afraid for his filthy life, but others must fulfill his invented war.
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      2. carlo Offline carlo
        carlo (carlo) 10 January 2021 23: 57
        +1
        Well, you know, they are very normal. Yes, we are bad at talking and pretending, but when there is an opportunity to fight honestly, we are very much bypassed.
  • maiman61 Offline maiman61
    maiman61 (Yuri) 10 January 2021 20: 33
    +3
    How well the Turks and Azerbaijanis cleaned you up! But not enough! It is a pity that Russia did not let Azerbaijan and Turkey clean up you to the end!
    1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 21: 24
      -9
      With such friends, we no longer need enemies.
      1. maiman61 Offline maiman61
        maiman61 (Yuri) 16 January 2021 16: 51
        +2
        To be a friend of Russia, it must be earned and earned! TOGETHER to fight and buy weapons at a MARKET price! And the rogue, with always with outstretched hand and wishlist, that Russia will fight for them, and why the hell do we need them?
        Armenia recognized South Ossetia? And what about Abkhazia? Armenia recognized Crimea? Armenia is at war with Russia in Syria? NO! And to hell with such "allies"!
  • Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 10 January 2021 22: 37
    +8
    Yes, we lost, but at least we fought with the Turks, not like you Russians,

    You fought with the Azerbaijanis, but your guts turned out to be thin on them.

    And you cowardly did not recognize Karabakh, a nation of traders with a diaspora up to the moon.

    Reduce ambition and ambition, otherwise the Jewish theme will be repeated with the "chosen people" without territory.

    Did the USA and France help you a lot ??
  • Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 10 January 2021 22: 44
    +12
    Karabakh people will remember your non-recognition of them as part of Armenia.
    Betrayal of you and your power.
    In difficult times, only the ancient veterans of the last war came to the rescue.
    SONATA 2.0 LPG you betrayed Karabakh, and he will remember it.
  • boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 11 January 2021 01: 39
    +3
    Yes, we lost, but at least we fought with the Turks ...

    Excuse me, but who declared war on whom, you to the Turks or they to you?
  • eco3 Offline eco3
    eco3 (erwin vercauteren) 11 January 2021 07: 24
    +5
    Why should Russia fight for a bunch of traitors and scumbags who treated Russia as an occupier, your government fired all good officers to replace them with incompetent Western-trained idiots who were lickers, that's why you lost the war. Be happy. Russia brokered a peace treaty or you wouldn't even exist anymore, ungrateful arrogant.
  • ksa Offline ksa
    ksa 11 January 2021 10: 58
    +4
    In my opinion, the Armenians have outwitted themselves. Only countries that have no territorial claims to other countries are admitted to military-political alliances. Therefore, Armenia was admitted to the CSTO as a country that has no claims against Azerbaijan. As a country that did not recognize Karabakh. I heard that you did not send your army to Karabakh either. Ah ah ah!! Well, what moral right do you have to reproach Russia for not providing military assistance to Karabakh?
  • EXPrompt Offline EXPrompt
    EXPrompt (EXPrompt) 11 January 2021 13: 15
    +5
    I missed something, or Armenia Still asked for help within the framework of the CSTO.
    Then Karabakh was betrayed by your own government, and the one you chose in the last elections.
    If you voted for them throughout the country, then the Russian Federation to make a claim for the fact that you voted for traitors, it is strange. Be responsible for your choice.
  • Man with a gun Offline Man with a gun
    Man with a gun (Man with a gun) 11 January 2021 19: 03
    +1
    Uh, and who handed over Armenia, no one handed it over, Armenia did not lose an inch of land. First, admit Karabakh yourself, and then speak! We, unlike you, beat the Turk many times, there are not as many fingers on our hand as we beat the Turk. In general, I think you are a troll and not Armenian at all.
  • Rich Crassaffik Offline Rich Crassaffik
    Rich Crassaffik (Rich Crassaffik) 11 January 2021 20: 43
    +1
    You will recall Pashinyan's statements, kisses aspirated from the USA and NATO, and then turn on the offenders. + you won the first Karabakh war, and then you relaxed. Here is the result.
  • Gadlei Offline Gadlei
    Gadlei 12 January 2021 03: 03
    +3
    SONATA Before looking for a straw in someone else's eye, look at the beam in your own eye.
    Your rulers were afraid to recognize Karabakh as a state, and Russia is to blame. Back in 2008-10, Russia proposed a peaceful solution to the Karabakh problem, but you are "proud", you stood in a pose, that's why you got it. Azerbaijan has been developing all the years, and all the years you have tried to spit on Russia and divide the power. And the proverb says do not spit in the well, from which you will have to drink.
  • Albert Albertov Offline Albert Albertov
    Albert Albertov (Albert Albertov) 12 January 2021 08: 58
    +2
    After the slogans "Russian occupants" anti-Russian rallies, currying favor with the Americans .... you also roll a barrel, that we did not help?
    Yes, we arranged it in order to change your power.
  • Restless Sagittarius (Vladimir) 12 January 2021 20: 10
    +2
    It was not us, but you who lost Russia when you separated from it and called the Russians invaders. Now live as Turkish lackeys, this is your choice, and rock the Russian Federation, she will answer you with 30000 of her tactical nuclear warheads. You don't recognize Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, so with whom ... should we fight for Karabakh, which you yourself were afraid to recognize as part of Armenia ?!
  • Tungsten Molybdenum (Tungsten Molybdenum) 12 January 2021 22: 08
    +1
    Armenia did not even recognize Karabakh in the person of Pashinyan chosen by the Armenians
  • Aleksandr10 Offline Aleksandr10
    Aleksandr10 (Alexander Finashin) 12 January 2021 22: 25
    +2
    It was much more difficult in Syria, and then they defended Syria. But in Syria, they did not burn the flags of the Russian Federation, they did not shout that the Russian invaders. Pashinyan (i.e. Armenia) Dispersed the generals who received military education in Russia, closed all Russian-language schools. A good ally, there is nothing to say.
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  • Way caps Offline Way caps
    Way caps (Way Caps) 16 January 2021 15: 39
    0
    Why do we need such allies? asphalt in Moscow there is someone to put without you.
  • Artery new Offline Artery new
    Artery new (Artery New) 16 January 2021 23: 44
    +1
    Several questions, after which you will understand how stupid you are. You, as an offended woman, claim that Russia will leave you and abandoned you. The question is, why did Russia have to protect you? Don't bother answering, you don't have the question. Russia is obliged and will defend Armenia only in one case, if there is an attack on Armenia. Here's another question for you, who attacked Armenia in the fall? That's right, nobody. This means that Russia should not interfere. If your prostitute is Sorovskaya Pashinyan, who was muddying something on the side and got it in the teeth, then there is no need to look for outside guilty parties. Well, and on account of whether we throw it or not ask the Syrians. There, by the way, the Turks do not attack the Russian army, why do you think ?. Correctly and here the answer, except for hysteria, you have no. Before Pashinyan I respected Armenia, but when this scum launched Soros and you began to turn the youth against Russia, you died for me. On the basis of what has been said. You got what you deserved. Traitors do not live well.
  • OCh Offline OCh
    OCh (Oleg Ch) 19 January 2021 17: 58
    +1
    hmm, this cry and accusations were expected. To begin with, restore the rights of the Russian language, at least as Azerbaijanis, you are our mono-ethnic.
    Then, your fellow tribesmen did not really want to go and die for Artsakh / Karabakh. NONE of the Armenians I know (and I know a lot of them) went nowhere. The maximum number of people asked to find a dressing when there were heavy losses, while they also meant their share ...
    Where was the Armenian regular army? Where was the recognition of Karabakh when the war was already waged? Why did they shell the Azeri cities from the territory of Armenia, trying to draw Russia in after responding from them (it's good that they restrained themselves).
    Too tricky ...
    Deal with your centuries-old conflicts yourself. They did not capture (or would give) the primordially Azeri regions to the Azerbaijanis - and there would be no such consequences ...
    And now Artsakh (what remains) is Russia, not Armenia, in fact ...
  • Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 10 January 2021 17: 38
    +11
    Yeah, chichas, Russia fled to fight for the traders, most of whom are sitting in the markets and calling on the Russians to give their lives for an ally who tore Russian flags and demanded to close the base, which guarantees the very existence of Armenia.
    Straight the smartest, when they ran and chose journalism as their prime minister, did not remember about their ally?! Not?
    Russia owes him, Russia is obliged to lay down its lives for him and sees its own interests only in this, go further trade, huckster ..
    1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 18: 02
      -12%
      Well, sit and bury your head in the sand then. I can't wait for you to lose Kazakhstan, ostriches.
      1. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
        Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 10 January 2021 18: 45
        +6
        It is you and these * warriors * who are sitting far from their homeland, who only know how to shit on the net instead of fighting in their homeland, in Russia they have seen enough of your freaks, crimes and banditry in our Russia, scattered around the world and whine. Aliyev washed you right, otherwise you will not understand and do not remember the good, how many of you Russia and the Russian peasant saved from cutting out.
      2. Ser sash Offline Ser sash
        Ser sash (Ser Sash) 10 January 2021 20: 23
        -1
        Kazakhs are normal fighters.
        Besides Russia, their friend is China.
  • Ser sash Offline Ser sash
    Ser sash (Ser Sash) 10 January 2021 18: 17
    -1
    Have you made an analogue of Krasnopol?
  • steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 10 January 2021 18: 29
    +3
    Let Shoigu learn how to "promote" his military equipment and technology. Let his women generals send to Turkey for training. Maybe our PR technologies will change?
    I recently spoke with offended Russian Armenians. I asked them just one question: "What would happen to Armenia now if Russia had not intervened in your war over Karabakh? How many would have been slaughtered?"
    The Armenians of Russia should kiss their "feet", not make claims !!!
    1. SONATA 2.0 LPG Offline SONATA 2.0 LPG
      SONATA 2.0 LPG 10 January 2021 20: 55
      -9
      We will, we will kiss your feet, just see how much more soup we get from the Sultan, and we will go to humiliation.
      1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
        steelmaker 10 January 2021 21: 22
        +8
        And we know that! We constantly wipe ourselves off. Only you must first of all deal with your Pashinyan. Weak? It's his fault in the first place! And if you are a man, and not a provocateur, do not whine, but deal with Pashinyan first! By the way, the Russian Armenians did not answer my question. And you, apart from filthy speeches about Russia, can you answer? I ask again: "What would have happened to your Armenia and the Armenians if Russia had not intervened in your war in Karabakh?"
      2. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 10 January 2021 23: 09
        +1
        Quote: SONATA 2.0 LPG
        just see

        What do Aliyev's fingals go through? Eyes cut through?
  • zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 10 January 2021 19: 36
    -1
    Wow! I thought that the pigeons were aiming, as in the Danish comedy film "Drink First Fedya". There, a specialist taught pigeons to bomb on a map. But he forgot that pigeons always come home.
  • Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 10 January 2021 20: 23
    -5
    Turkish state-controlled defense company Roketsan has embarked on an ambitious program to produce the country's first laser-guided surface-to-surface missile. The 230mm TRGL-230 missile will be widely used in overseas operations by the Turkish armed forces, officials said. It is expected to complement the Turkish fleet of unmanned aerial vehicles Akinci.
    It is planned that UAVs of this type will detect and illuminate the target with a laser beam, and a guided missile to destroy uncovered objects will be launched from ground launchers.
    The Akinci unmanned aerial complex (a joint Ukrainian-Turkish project) was first demonstrated in June 2019 as part of the Turkish Teknofest 2019 festival in Istanbul. UAV Akinci by the Turkish side is implemented jointly with the enterprise "Zaporozhye Machine-Building Design Bureau" Progress "named after Academician A.G. Ivchenko ", which is a part of" Ukroboronprom ".

    https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2020/09/03/13234970.shtml
    1. Bakht Online Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 10 January 2021 22: 07
      0
      but TRGL-230 will its first missile capable of being launched from ground-based launchers.

      So is there a rocket or not?
  • Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 10 January 2021 21: 02
    +8
    Yes, everything is fine. Our second-hand brothers came home in not sickly cars, had supper than God sent, counted the daily proceeds, this is work tomorrow, this is for the historical. And on the Internet, looking at "Rashka" at night to scold ... She will endure everything ...
  • bzbo Offline bzbo
    bzbo (Black doctor) 10 January 2021 23: 19
    +3
    Cunning greedy Armenians did not recognize Karabakh, because they wanted to preserve the entire occupied territory, and those areas that were previously, and those that were squeezed during the first war. They wanted Russia to recognize the occupied regions of Karabakh as Armenian. With the same success, Russia itself could occupy them without the help of the Armenians.
  • Alexander Sosnitsky (Alexander Sosnitsky) 11 January 2021 01: 20
    0
    And if you clap your ears, then you can get yourself. Was it really difficult to foresee?
  • Cat Offline Cat
    Cat (Sergei) 11 January 2021 10: 31
    0
    As far as I understand, this system is analogous to our unborn ATGM DB "Hermes"?
  • Sergey Pomlyakov (Sergey Pomlyakov) 12 January 2021 07: 17
    0
    How could he intervene and acknowledge the presence of Syrian, pro-Turkish militants if he defeated them three times
  • Volodar79 Offline Volodar79
    Volodar79 (Fedor Ivanov) 12 January 2021 18: 37
    +3
    In the photographs of Israel's war with the Arabs, 73 years old, there are IDF servicemen with completely non-army hairstyles. It turns out that huge masses of Israelis with the beginning of the war rushed from all over the world and, in the shortest possible time, occupied them in trenches, combat vehicles ... But the Armenians did not "rush". Instead of them, Russian guys should have died! DUDKI !!! Nobody will pour blood for you, now you sit on sofas and water Russia. And without her, Karabakh would have been taken away from you. And the guys who really fought (and not sat on sofas) would have died much more ...
  • Anatoly Demchenko (Anatoly Demchenko) 13 January 2021 16: 49
    +1
    Where did you fight? Shashlik was fried in Russia, but they ran along Russian streets with flags and waited for Russia to fight in your place. Accustomed to paradise on someone else's hump! It is impossible to recognize, otherwise Russia will join! What is this nonsense? You have brand new SU-30s. HOW MANY FLIGHTS DID THEY MAKE? ALREADY NOT ONE! Only if you bought something wrong, you had to buy drones! You wouldn't have sent them into battle either. As well as the army of Armenia. The peasants of Karabakh were thrown one on one with Turkey and Azerbaijan! Now look for the extreme. Shameful!