The storming of Congress is just the beginning: the US press spoke about the possible collapse of the state


What happened on January 6, 2021 on Capitol Hill may be a harbinger of darker events, because similar situations have already been observed in the history of mankind, writes the American edition of The National Interest.


In ancient Rome, at the time of the declining republic, there were several warring factions. Then they killed each other in the streets and there was a bloody civil war. Mark Tullius Cicero described in detail what was happening, and knowledge of those horrors has survived to this day.

Then something similar happened in Germany in the twentieth century during the Weimar Republic, when the Germans suffered defeat and humiliation after the First World War. It all ended with Hitler's rise to power and the "night of long knives." Then political violence gave rise to cruelty unimaginable in its monstrosity.

The entire second half of 2020 is clear evidence that the collapse of existing norms has occurred in the United States. For decades, people communicated normally with each other, despite political differences. But this came to an end.

The assault on the US Congress building was the logical conclusion of an intermediate stage of political degradation. We can say that we have passed the point of no return, a kind of Rubicon, and have witnessed the possible beginning of the process of the collapse of the American state.

The US now has two choices: either what happened on Capitol Hill will be the last dramatic episode and manifestation of hatred, or the country will repeat the path of the Weimar Republic and violence will become the norm.

Four people were killed, one of them a woman who was shot at point-blank range by a policeman. One of the police officers was also seriously injured and died in hospital. Democrats were quick to accuse Republican President Donald Trump of "inciting," but he condemned the riots and pledged to hand over power on January 20, 2021, when Joe Biden is to be inaugurated.
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  1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 10 January 2021 12: 22
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    The assault on the US Congress building was the logical conclusion of an intermediate stage of political degradation.

    The assault on the Congress building, as it turned out, was simply brilliantly organized and carried out by the Democrats. It all happened exactly to a second in time, before the Congressional hearing on electoral irregularities. There was a lot of evidence of violations, there were many doubters, and there was little chance of the elections being canceled. And then bam, crowds of protesters burst into the capitol, several broken windows and that's it .... All at once took the side of the democrats, everyone forgot about the election fraud, here it is more malicious, desecrated the "temple of democracy." And immediately the Democrats have a majority in parliament. Reminds nothing ??? This is how the Nazis, led by Hitler, set fire to the Reistag and came to power. I won't be surprised that Trump will be dragged through the courts.
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 10 January 2021 12: 22
    -1
    Nuka, nuka ...
    USD 74,16 + 0,24
    Real guys do not believe this YSA press ...
    1. Pandiurin Offline Pandiurin
      Pandiurin (Pandiurin) 10 January 2021 13: 51
      +5
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      Nuka, nuka ...
      USD 74,16 + 0,24
      Real guys do not believe this YSA press ...

      It is too simplistic to look at the dollar exchange rate. When a ship begins to sink, its nose can also rise sharply above the water level.
      If they start to sell sharply the shares of American companies, then investors will go from the shares to the cash. Accordingly, the demand for "money" will grow. American shares will be sold for dollars, the dollar will rise against other currencies.

      I do not want to drown in any way for or against the collapse of America.
      I just wanted to draw attention to the overly simplistic approach to assessment.
  3. argo44 Offline argo44
    argo44 (mac) 10 January 2021 12: 24
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    Or the haste that rules the world is shifting the burden of power to another place - for example, to Germany ...
    1. Semyon Semyonov_2 (Semyon Semyonov) 10 January 2021 12: 45
      +1
      She's not ready.
  4. Semyon Semyonov_2 (Semyon Semyonov) 10 January 2021 12: 44
    0
    The can will tighten the bolts and a quiet horror will begin.
  5. Ishsho Fofochka Ulyanoff stormed the Winter Palace, most amusing, gentlemen, kin, "Lenin in October" is called!
  6. Indifferent Offline Indifferent
    Indifferent 10 January 2021 13: 44
    +4
    Extremes have become very popular with us. Then after covid the world will not be the same. Now, after the Congress, the world will not be the same. And although there is such a possibility and I would not rule it out, I think that everything will return to normal. Right now, Trump will be removed through a fictitious impeachment, and then they will start dragging him around the courts. As a politician, this field can be written off for scrap. Democrats will begin to rule the world (I made no reservation). The international situation will become much more complicated. And all this will continue until the final dumping of the United States into a tailspin. It is economic, and only later in the political. But it will not be today or even tomorrow, but most likely the day after tomorrow.
  7. LeftPers Offline LeftPers
    LeftPers (Anton) 10 January 2021 14: 05
    +2
    the US press spoke about the possible collapse of the state

    Their words are in God's ears. Maybe this spawn of Satan will finally collapse.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 10 January 2021 17: 27
      -3
      Quote: LeftPers
      Their words are in God's ears. Maybe this spawn of Satan will finally collapse.

      You have to pay for everything. Are you ready to pay for this with your well-being? Collapse of the USA = collapse of the world economy. And the collapse of the Russian economy, as part of the world. Are you ready to relive the new 90s for a dream? And someone will not carry out Provide Hope.
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 11 January 2021 21: 25
        +1
        Collapse of the USA = collapse of the world economy.

        This is not entirely true.
        The collapse of the United States = the collapse of the financial pyramid of banking, due to which the United States has existed for many years.
        Real production will quickly find a replacement for pseudo-assets that have nothing to do with real money. repeat
        1. bobba94 Offline bobba94
          bobba94 (Vladimir) 11 January 2021 23: 26
          +2
          An acquaintance of mine works at a bank and he gives the following assessment of the American financial system - a derivative on a derivative and a derivative drive.
        2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 12 January 2021 02: 40
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          How fast is it? From the experience of previous crises, 15 years at best. The Great Depression was a financial crisis in the United States but affected manufacturing worldwide. One of the consequences of this crisis was World War II. And this is just a crisis, and if it is an instant collapse, a complete destruction of the US economy (the main market in the world), it will be an epic trend that has no analogues in history. The main consumer of Chinese and European goods is the United States, if they stop buying these goods, production in these countries will collapse. If production collapses there, oil and gas consumption will collapse. What do you think will be the consequences for the RF. The US dollar is the main reserve currency of the world, its collapse cannot pass without leaving a trace for the world.
          1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
            Ulysses (Alexey) 12 January 2021 19: 55
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            The main consumer of Chinese and European goods is the United States, if they stop buying these goods, production in these countries will collapse. If production there collapses, oil and gas consumption will collapse. What do you think will be the consequences for the RF. The US dollar is the world's main reserve currency, its collapse cannot pass without leaving a trace for the world.

            It seems to me that you yourself answered your own question.
            We are not dependent on the purchase of our goods by the states (unlike the PRC and the EU).
            We do not sell oil to the states, the EU will definitely choose where it is cheaper and it will be our gas and oil.
            The main reserve currency of the world is gold (which the architects of the current global financial pyramid do not like to recall). And we are building up its reserves, like all smart countries, including the United States.

            Nothing goes unnoticed for the world, I agree.
            However, with the above initial conditions, we still get the least, in contrast to the "largest economies in the world." repeat
            Are you worried about them or about Russia? smile
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 13 January 2021 01: 54
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              Quote: Ulysses
              It seems to me that you yourself answered your own question.
              We are not dependent on the purchase of our goods by the states (unlike the PRC and the EU). We do not sell oil to the states, the EU will definitely choose where it is cheaper, and it will be our gas and oil.

              See, this is a simple logical chain. The US stops buying goods from the EU and the PRC. Accordingly, in these countries, enterprises cease to produce products (and not only for export, the multiplier effect). Accordingly, enterprises stop buying components (for example, Russian metal) and energy (for example, Russian gas). Accordingly, the price of these resources falls, as does the volume of purchases. Accordingly, the economies of countries not directly related to the US economy suffer.
              The effect of the turbulences of the US financial banking pyramid on the Russian economy was demonstrated by the 2008 mortgage crisis. The fall of the US GDP is 4%, the Russian Federation is almost 8% (moreover, in rubles). Countries that specialize in the export of resources suffer the most. Nothing portends that the future will be different.

              Quote: Ulysses
              The main reserve currency of the world is gold (which the architects of the current global financial pyramid do not like to recall). And we are building up its reserves, like all smart countries, including the United States.

              Not certainly in that way. For a number of countries of the "first" world, your statement is correct (USA, France, Germany). For the rest, this is not the case, for the Russian Federation the share of gold in the gold reserves is 19%, for China 2,5%, Japan 2,4%, India 6,1%. The rest is currency, mostly dollar. China is generally the main holder of the US national debt.

              Quote: Ulysses
              Nothing goes unnoticed for the world, I agree.
              However, with the above initial conditions, we still get the least, in contrast to the "largest economies in the world."
              Are you worried about them or about Russia?

              I repeat, judging by the experience of the 2008 crisis, your optimism about who and how much is not based on anything.
              I am worried about myself personally, I do not want to spend the old age, which is not far off, in the new 90s.
              1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                Ulysses (Alexey) 13 January 2021 22: 20
                +2
                A simple logical chain allows me to argue that the classic pyramid called "dollar" is coming to a logical conclusion.
                How it will be arranged is not important, it is important that Russia at least stopped investing in it.
                Yes, it will hurt everyone, only we are somewhere far away in the fourth list of "victims".
                Unless, of course, you personally are not strongly tied to the banking business.

                Accordingly, enterprises stop buying components (for example, Russian metal) and energy (for example, Russian gas). Accordingly, the price of these resources falls, as does the volume of purchases.

                I am not tied to Russian metal and gas. request

                The effect of the turbulences of the US financial banking pyramid on the Russian economy was demonstrated by the 2008 mortgage crisis. The fall of the US GDP is 4%, the Russian Federation is almost 8% (moreover, in rubles).

                Didn't notice at all.

                The GDP of the same USA is 80% of the service sector.
                Consumption is by far the largest component of US GDP and has the greatest impact on it.

                Now to yours.

                I am worried about myself personally, I do not want to spend the old age, which is not far off, in the new 90s.

                If you live one day, in loans like in silks and all the hope for a "pyramid", get ready for the worst.
                For the collapse hits a butt first of all on those who believe in the inviolability of something in this life.

                Good luck and all the best ..

                PS Survived "Pavlovian reform", zeroing of savings and release of prices in 91st, default in 98th. smile
                1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                  Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 January 2021 23: 22
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                  Quote: Ulysses
                  A simple logical chain allows me to argue that the classic pyramid called "dollar" is coming to a logical conclusion.

                  I doubt that you have any logic in this matter.



                  Quote: Ulysses
                  Yes, it will hurt everyone, only we are somewhere far away in the fourth list of "victims".

                  The economy of the Russian Federation is small, and it is quite possible that in absolute figures you are right, but ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation will be in the first lists.

                  Quote: Ulysses
                  Unless, of course, you personally are not strongly tied to the banking business.

                  Worse in construction. Banks are just beginning to tighten their belts, and construction projects have already been frozen.

                  Quote: Ulysses
                  I am not tied to Russian metal and gas.

                  If you do not live in the Russian Federation, then yes, you are not tied up. The economy of the Russian Federation is very strongly tied to the supply of energy resources and problems in this area do not occur without leaving a trace for other areas of the economy.

                  Quote: Ulysses
                  Didn't notice at all.

                  It's a pity you don't run Rosstat, he noticed. Are you a citizen of the Russian Federation? Do you live in the Russian Federation? Salary not in dollars? It was impossible not to notice.

                  Quote: Ulysses
                  The GDP of the same USA is 80% of the service sector.
                  Consumption is by far the largest component of US GDP and has the greatest impact on it.

                  The Russian Federation has 60%, does it fundamentally change something?

                  Quote: Ulysses
                  If you live one day, in loans like in silks and all the hope for a "pyramid", get ready for the worst.
                  For the collapse hits a butt first of all on those who believe in the inviolability of something in this life.

                  I completely agree with you, so we cannot rely on the pension system of the Russian Federation.
                  1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                    Ulysses (Alexey) 15 January 2021 00: 09
                    +2
                    It's a pity you don't run Rosstat, he noticed. Are you a citizen of the Russian Federation? Do you live in the Russian Federation? Salary not in dollars? It was impossible not to notice.

                    I am 56 years old, my family has two apartments, a house outside the city, inexpensive cars (three).
                    Everything has been earned by hard work over the past 20 years, plus the inheritance of the parents.

                    I’ll give all this to the "guys with backpacks" ???
                    Which "we are in power here" ???

                    PS You first learn your Wishlist with your ability to correlate. winked
                    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 16 January 2021 17: 27
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                      Quote: Ulysses
                      I am 56 years old, my family has two apartments, a house outside the city, inexpensive cars (three).
                      Everything has been earned by hard work over the past 20 years, plus the inheritance of the parents.

                      I am sincerely happy for you.

                      Quote: Ulysses
                      I’ll give all this to the "guys with backpacks" ???
                      Which "we are in power here" ???

                      What nonsense? What are the "guys with backpacks" who "we are in power here"? What are you talking about? We were talking about the collapse of the dollar?

                      Quote: Ulysses
                      PS You first learn your Wishlist with your ability to correlate.

                      What kind of bowlers? Not spending your old age in the new 90s? Think you want too much?
                  2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                    Ulysses (Alexey) 15 January 2021 00: 18
                    +1
                    I doubt that you have any logic in this matter.

                    And me and completely ........ to your doubt. lol
                    Let the riot police deal with you.
                    For my money, taxpayer.
                    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 16 January 2021 17: 38
                      -1
                      And I am interested in the opinion of people like you. For some reason, your brothers cannot convincingly defend their position. It calms me down.
                      1. isofat Offline isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 16 January 2021 18: 05
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                        Quote: Oleg Rambover
                        Your brethren cannot convincingly defend their position.

                        Oleg Rambover, and your brotherhood cannot honestly win the elections, and therefore steals these elections all over the world.

                        We are now discussing this consequence of the actions of your brothers? yes
  8. Ryzzard ewiak Offline Ryzzard ewiak
    Ryzzard ewiak (Ryszard Ewiak) 10 January 2021 17: 41
    +1
    Trump is the American Gorbachev and Biden is Yeltsin. History repeats itself. And I'm not surprised by this.