China refused to consider Russia a superpower, and explained the reasons


After the collapse of the USSR, modern Russia, as the legal successor, inherited the solid potential of the former superpower. But the Soviet Union left behind not only wealth, but also various dangers, writes the Chinese newspaper Sohu.


The USSR was an incredibly powerful country. There was a draw in the confrontation between him and the United States, so he was a recognized superpower. At that time Moscow was often ahead of Washington in science and the military-industrial complex, but attached little importance to the agricultural sector and light industry. I suffered from this economy, the situation in which gradually worsened. As a result, an economic collapse occurred, which caused the collapse of the USSR.

Looking at the development of the Russian Federation today, we can say that its level of science and equipment one of the highest in the world, because the USSR left her a lot of groundwork. She does not need to strain much over scientific and technological progress - it is enough to continue to exploit and develop the Soviet reserve.

In reality, Russia is very strong, but so far it cannot be said unequivocally that it will be able to regain its superpower status in the future. All we can say is that she has a chance. But based on the situation, it is still difficult to assert such a thing, since there are significant factors preventing this. What prevents Russia from becoming a superpower in the foreseeable future?

One of the main negative reasons is geographic location. Much of the country is sparsely populated, particularly in the north, where living conditions prevail. In this respect, Russia is absolutely different from China, where people live everywhere. Thus, Russia does not fully use the existing territories, or rather, it cannot do this for objective reasons. The development of permafrost areas is incredibly difficult.

Taking the example of China, it can be said unequivocally that the most important thing for progress is that the country's inhabitants, from elites to ordinary citizens, work together, avoiding disunity. It is simply difficult for people in a multinational country to live in peace without working on a common cause, and it is much more difficult to be a united people. But the worse is that in Russia, rich in natural resources, there is an extremely small population in principle, one can say ridiculously small.

The USSR gave the Russian Federation huge territories and weapons for defense. However, he did not give her enough strength to develop the existing territories. That is why it is difficult for Russia to become a superpower.

The problems of the economy of the Russian Federation, inherited from the USSR, continue to influence development and progress in all areas. Arms exports cannot fill this economic hole. Even wanting to develop other industries, it is difficult for Russia to get rid of old habits.

The distance between the Russian Federation and the superpower is still very large, and not only because of the country's internal problems - the United States is holding back its development with all its might. It is very difficult to become a superpower. Therefore, first of all, it needs now to solve various internal problems, summed up the media from the PRC.
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  1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 7 January 2021 09: 56
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    China refused to consider Russia a superpower, and explained the reasons

    - Well, China today is a potential owner and curator of the Russian State ... - So ... - whatever China speaks about Russia today ... - this is "the truth in the first and last instance" .. - Perhaps today's generation. .. is the last generation of Russia; which still lives in a state of relative independence from China ... - And then ... - And then ... - as China says ... - so it will be ...
    1. Dimy4 Offline Dimy4
      Dimy4 (Dmitriy) 7 January 2021 10: 10
      -3
      There will be a Chinese yoke.
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 7 January 2021 21: 18
      +3
      Nuuu, what are you talking about? To the fact that YOUR

      host and curator

      are Yankees? Well, this and so everything has long been understood here! What you have invested is what you carry!
  2. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 7 January 2021 10: 17
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    China refused to consider Russia a superpower

    That's absolutely on the drum over power or not. The main thing is how the inhabitants of this country live. For example Switzerland, a small country, I would say very much. From minerals, mountains and mind, there is no oil, no gold, no gas, no state Duma, nothing, and the inhabitants live like chocolate in butter. The Swiss government pays each Swiss every month 2250 euros (excluding salary at work) for being Swiss. And take our country, the richest state on planet Earth, no richer, and the people vegetate in poverty. And the State Duma is still thinking how to sand the people, like the pension was cut, the tax was introduced to the self-employed, and he (the people) still lives. But the patience of the people is not eternal.
    1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2021 11: 01
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      Quote: Athenogen
      The Swiss government pays each Swiss every month 2250 euros (excluding salary at work) for being Swiss.

      You haven't even tried to figure out this beautiful fairy tale ... does NOT pay.
      Switzerland has a very high standard of living, but this does not mean at all that it is easy to live there, there are their own problems.
      1. Uneven Offline Uneven
        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 7 January 2021 12: 01
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        The Swiss rejected in a referendum the idea to introduce a guaranteed monthly minimum income everywhere.
        According to marketing company GFS, 78% of voters opposed the plan.
        The activists who put forward this idea offered every adult Swiss citizen living in the country to pay 2,5 thousand Swiss francs (2,5 thousand dollars), regardless of whether he has a job.

        bbc.com
        1. Dear sofa expert. 7 January 2021 12: 13
          +2
          The Swiss rejected in a referendum the idea to introduce a guaranteed monthly minimum income everywhere.

          If you understood the reasons, you would not be surprised. “Guaranteed monthly income” brings more than just benefits.
          AlexZN correctly noted: you should at least try to understand the fairy tales.
          1. Uneven Offline Uneven
            Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 7 January 2021 12: 20
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            Where exactly did you find my "surprise"?
            1. Dear sofa expert. 7 January 2021 12: 22
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              Where exactly did you find my "surprise"?

              Or admiration?) Or for what purpose did you write about the Swiss refusal from GED?
              1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 7 January 2021 12: 25
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                I consider any event in relation to Russia. What do you think: Is it possible at present to hold such a referendum in the Russian Federation? Justify.
                1. Dear sofa expert. 7 January 2021 12: 34
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                  I consider any event in relation to Russia. What do you think: Is it possible at present to hold such a referendum in the Russian Federation? Justify.

                  Why consider this event in relation to Russia (as well as to any other state)?
                  The Swiss had a reason to bring this up, as well as a reason for the people to abandon the idea. The idea is, in principle, not new (and not bad), but it has its pros and cons.
                  Before writing about anything, you must first understand this topic, well, or at least "try to figure it out ...".
                  1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                    Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 7 January 2021 14: 35
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                    1)
                    Why consider this event in relation to Russia

                    Since Russia is my homeland, I worry about its fate more than any other state. And the truth is learned by comparison.

                    2) Of course, every action has a reason. Nevertheless, you never answered my question about the reality of holding a similar referendum in Russia.
                    1. Dear sofa expert. 7 January 2021 16: 16
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                      Since Russia is my homeland, I worry about its fate more than any other state. And the truth is learned by comparison.

                      Well then, first, try to find out the truth.

                      Nevertheless, you never answered my question about the reality of holding a similar referendum in Russia.

                      I think no, it's impossible. It is just as impossible in most other states. In Switzerland, one reality, in Russia another, and so on (in each state - its own).

                      Since you really like to ask questions, then answer me to my question (I give you a chance, to show off, so to speak, erudition):
                      Since you are trying to present this topic as some kind of advantage of one over the other, tell me, right here and now - what then are the reasons for such a negative result of the Swiss referendum? )
                      1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 8 January 2021 12: 37
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                        What then are the reasons for such a negative result of the Swiss referendum?

                        https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/directdemocracy/vote-june-6_basic-income-plan-awaits-voters-verdict/42200378

                        Of course, in Russia "the reality is different."
                        Taking into account the presence of colossal natural resources in the Russian Federation (40% of the world reserves for 2% of the world population), the funds would be quite enough for a total payment without any conditions of at least a living wage. We have managed to "educate" a hundred dollar billionaires in 20 years! The only question is the unwillingness of the Kremlin organized criminal group, which privatized Russia, to share even a penny with the population.
                      2. Dear sofa expert. 8 January 2021 13: 10
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                        What then are the reasons for such a negative result of the Swiss referendum?

                        https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/directdemocracy/vote-june-6_basic-income-plan-awaits-voters-verdict/42200378

                        Well, that is, you yourself see that the attempt to impose on the Swiss the so-called "guaranteed monthly income" was nothing more than a cunning trick to shift the costs of the social system onto the shoulders of the people themselves?) The people saw this "cheap divorce" and reacted accordingly ...
                        It is not clear why you are trying to present this "mulka" as some kind of advantage, and oppose this to the ability of another state to do the same?)
                        In defense of Russia, I can tell you a number of advantages over the same Switzerland (although the Swiss level, at its root, I admit - objectively, is one of the highest in the world.).

                        Taking into account that the Russian Federation has colossal natural resources, the Russian state provides its citizens with reliable protection of the state border (including from uninvited representatives of foreign cultures), 61 thousand kilometers long. Accommodation of 89% of the population in their own, free privatized housing (versus 48% of the Swiss - living in bought for incredibly big money!), Free basic health care and education.
                        Well, this is so that it doesn't seem to you that all the money is being squandered by the notorious "Kremlin organized crime group".)
                      3. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 8 January 2021 13: 36
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                        Accommodation of 89% of the population in their own, free privatized housing (versus 48% of the Swiss - living in bought for incredibly big money!), Free basic health care and education.

                        a) It would be commendable if this housing was built in the last 30 years at the expense of the state and distributed to citizens free of charge. But the "reformers" allowed to "privatize" only what was built in other times. Therefore, it makes sense to look at and compare with the previous era how things are with the construction of housing for citizens at public expense today.
                        b) Do you have no desire to compare the quality of the housing stock in Russia and Switzerland?
                        c) The same for the quality of "free basic health care and education"
                        d) What is the use of "securely covering the borders" when most of the Russian economy was given to foreigners?
                      4. Dear sofa expert. 8 January 2021 14: 19
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                        But the "reformers" allowed to "privatize" only what was built in other times.

                        Yes, what happened was given out. Or do you think that you need to distribute for future use, what will happen?)

                        how things are with the construction of housing for citizens at the expense of the state today.

                        Today, a different reality, although in it, is still subsidized by the state. How are things in Switzerland with the issuance of "maternity capital", do not remind me?)

                        Do you have no desire to compare the quality of the housing stock in Russia and Switzerland?

                        Everything is relative.
                        If we compare comparable things, then everything is quite comparable. Apartments in old buildings in Zurich are not much different from Moscow "Khrushchovkas" .. and so on. Well, the cottages of a'la "ruble" format in Switzerland can only be afforded by a multi-billionaire.)

                        Do you have no desire to compare the quality of the housing stock in Russia and Switzerland?

                        The free part is quite comparable. Paid - most likely too (I don't know, I don't use it.))

                        What is the use of "reliably covering the borders" when most of the Russian economy was given to foreigners?

                        Everything is lost! There are foreigners everywhere! )
                        Tired, to be honest, Comrade Kievite.)
                      5. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 9 January 2021 10: 09
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                        1)
                        Yes, what happened was given out. Or do you think that you need to distribute for the future, what will happen?

                        a) In this case, it was not necessary to tear it away from the heart. There was even no "distribution". They just graciously allowed to leave for now.
                        b) And what was it built there?

                        2)
                        Today, a different reality, although in it, is still subsidized by the state.

                        Here you are right. In this "other reality" the authorities steal in such a way that citizens are no longer even talking about free housing, there would be enough for a communal apartment!

                        3)
                        How are things in Switzerland with the issuance of "maternity capital", do not remind me?

                        Those who believe that the "maternity capital" can adequately raise a child - unhappy people or just lumpen.

                        4)
                        Apartments in old buildings in Zurich are not much different from Moscow "Khrushchovkas"

                        a) Have you heard that not all Russian citizens live in cities with a population of over one million?
                        b) What is the percentage of housing in Switzerland with "amenities" on the street?

                        5)
                        Everything is lost! There are foreigners everywhere!

                        Not certainly in that way. In Russia, the masters of our economy are rare. But they milk her without stopping ...
              2. Uneven Offline Uneven
                Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 8 January 2021 12: 57
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                Note: The aggregate wealth of 22 Russian citizens included in the Bloomberg Billionaire Index has increased from the beginning of the year (2020) by $ 486 million and reached $ 304,67 billion.
                At the current exchange rate, two dozen billionaires own assets worth 23,154 trillion rubles - an amount equivalent to 21,6% of Russia's GDP.
                For comparison, this money could be paid monthly for a year to ALL citizens of Russia for about 14000 rubles.
              3. Dear sofa expert. 8 January 2021 13: 58
                +1
                this money could be paid monthly for a year to ALL citizens of Russia for about 14000 rubles.

                And what's next? Well, when will this year be over?
              4. Uneven Offline Uneven
                Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 9 January 2021 10: 53
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                The volume of GDP per capita in PPP for 2020 in Russia is $ 30 (522).
                Would it really be 8-10 percent of this amount to pay an unconditional income for Russia?
              5. Dear sofa expert. 9 January 2021 11: 46
                +2
                Would it really be 8-10 percent of this amount to pay an unconditional income for Russia?

                Swiss version? Likewise, canceling the payment of pensions, all other social benefits, and count this income in the salary in excess of this "income", while increasing VAT for all by 8%?
                Yes Easy!
                Do you think the Russians are worse than the Swiss, and would accept such "cookies and lace panties" with glee?)
              6. Uneven Offline Uneven
                Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 9 January 2021 12: 38
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                Why "cancel"? Russia is much richer than Switzerland. She may well afford to resolve this issue without prejudice to the majority of citizens. And for those whose incomes (any, not only the official salary) exceed 5 average salaries in the country, introduce progressive taxation, up to 95% of everything that is above 10 average salaries.
              7. Dear sofa expert. 9 January 2021 13: 19
                +2
                And for those whose incomes (any, not only the official salary) exceed 5 average salaries in the country, introduce progressive taxation, up to 95% of everything that is above 10 average salaries.

                What nonsense, my God .. Can you hear yourself? It all comes down to you: "take and divide."
                For starters, try to stop counting other people's money, and learn to count yours. Then maybe someday you will have a salary "above 10 average."
              8. Uneven Offline Uneven
                Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 9 January 2021 13: 40
                -1
                Why take away? Let everyone who benefits the country work for health! And all intermediaries - parasites - should be "removed". And living in a society and using all its benefits must be shared.
              9. Dear sofa expert. 9 January 2021 14: 08
                +2
                And living in a society and using all its benefits must be shared.

                Yes, yes .. and you will create these "goods", right?
                You, who, besides whining, complaining about life and at the same time pointing to others (more successful) with your "edifying" finger, do not know how to do anything else?
                Have you ever thought that it might be precisely those who, apparently by virtue of their intelligence, "above 10 average" earn, just create you all these "benefits" that you are trying to "fairly distribute"?
              10. Uneven Offline Uneven
                Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 9 January 2021 16: 09
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                Give an example (not from the arts) when a person would personally create "goods" for at least a couple of million rubles a month.
              11. Dear sofa expert. 9 January 2021 17: 16
                +3
                Give an example (not from the arts) when a person would personally create "goods" for at least a couple of million rubles a month.

                What's the point of giving examples, if you even have some one-sided understanding of the term “good”. After all, not everything can be measured by some sort - in millions of rubles.
                How much would you rate the work of the conqueror of Siberia for the Russian state - Ermak Timofeevich, Tsar Peter the Great, commander Alexander Suvorov, Marshal Zhukov? Do you think they deserve "10 average"?
                Well, if you don't go that far, then my brother, working on a rotational basis as a doctor on an oil-producing platform, and working part-time in a legal entity between shifts. office by a lawyer (medical and administrative law), earns, let's say, not bad.

                Do you want to impose 95% of the tax on it in order to provide yourself with "benefits" of your mediocrity?

                Or maybe my friend, an engineer, who created his own construction company out of nothing, and became, as a result of many years of work, a "dollar millionaire"?

                If you do not have money, then at least do not wipe your last pants here, sitting day and night on this site, but go and work. Maybe thoughts will fall into place.
              12. Uneven Offline Uneven
                Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 9 January 2021 18: 24
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                How much would you rate the work of the conqueror of Siberia for the Russian state - Ermak Timofeevich, Tsar Peter the Great, commander Alexander Suvorov, Marshal Zhukov? Do you think they deserve "10 average"?

                Are these typical representatives of the current Russian Federation? Ermak was a bonded man. If he had not been, they would have sent another to conquer Siberia.
                As for Peter (and all other autocrats), they owned ALL of Russia and its income. Talented commanders at all times were a PIECE product and were quite worthily encouraged.
                I'm not talking about them, but about ordinary people who pull on the entire economy of the country.
                In the current Russian Federation (we will not take other countries), there are many imbalances in wages. Example: Compare the salaries of miners with gas workers. Whose work do you think is harder?
                But lawyers (especially notaries) clearly do not deserve their fees. In terms of their labor costs, they should not receive more than average workers.
                "Construction" firms are not created out of nothing. There must be some kind of base (if you wish, I will develop this topic). So tell these tales to someone else.
                Unlike you, I am absolutely not worried about your financial situation. But for honest workers, I am offended, because in our time they are clearly offended.
              13. Dear sofa expert. 9 January 2021 19: 47
                +2
                Compare the salaries of miners to gas workers. Whose work do you think is harder?

                Mental is harder, you have to study there, strain your head, otherwise all the miners would quickly retrain to become Gazprom managers, and more!

                And by the way, what's stopping you?)

                Here you have to "strain your head" along the way too .. a problem. Otherwise we would not discuss this topic with you now.

                "Construction" firms are not created out of nothing. There must be some kind of base

                This base is called - mental potential and the desire to achieve something in life yourself. Education there also lays its deep mark.

                if you wish, I will develop this topic

                I do not wish.

                Unlike you, I am absolutely not worried about your financial situation. But for honest workers, I am offended,

                This is exactly what worries you. This is insulting to you "for honest workers",
                I only care about what I have earned. And I consider myself no less honest, if anything.
              14. Uneven Offline Uneven
                Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 9 January 2021 21: 58
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                1)
                Mental is harder, you have to study there, strain your head, otherwise all the miners would quickly retrain to become Gazprom managers, and more!

                a) A very controversial statement.
                b) Competition “interferes”. Not all of them are the "sons of Chernomyrdin", who will be attached to grain places, and in which case they will forgive billions of debts: https://www.business-gazeta.ru/news/494316

                2)
                This base is called - mental potential and the desire to achieve something in life yourself. Education there also lays its deep mark.

                This is not enough to create a serious business. There are a dime a dozen applicants with "mental potential" and "desire" in Russia, and only those who, in addition, have serious trump cards "succeed". First of all, family relationships, acquaintances and connections with the right people. The complete lack of conscience helps in our time. Well, crime is not in the last place.

                3)
                And I consider myself no less honest, if anything.

                That's good to hear.
                Honestly earned by anyone does not cause me any emotions other than deep satisfaction. Absolute negative only to "dirty money". And big money is rarely different.
  • Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 7 January 2021 14: 56
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    Quote: AlexZN
    You haven't even tried to figure out this beautiful fairy tale ..

    How can you so categorically assert that which is not? request I tried to make sense of this beautiful fairy tale. I read that there will be a referendum in Switzerland on the payment of 2250 EUR per month to each Swiss. But I didn't even think that they would refuse, I thought they were getting them now. Kucheryavo live probably once refused.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 7 January 2021 16: 27
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      I tried to make sense of this beautiful fairy tale. I read that there will be a referendum in Switzerland on the payment of 2250 EUR per month to each Swiss.

      Are you sure you read about “every Swiss”, and not about “every adult Swiss”?) That's where the “fairy tales” begin ..

      But I didn't even think that they would refuse, I thought they were getting them now. Kucheryavo live probably once refused.

      Maybe if you really delved into the details, then your "thoughts" would be in the right direction.
      Apparently the Swiss read the terms of this "innovation" more carefully, and saw what price they would pay for it.)
      1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 7 January 2021 16: 42
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        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        Are you sure you read about "every Swiss"

        Are you sure I should read about every Swiss? If you are sure why?

        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        It is with the little things that "fairy tales" begin.

        The tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it! A lesson to good fellows. laughing

        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        Apparently the Swiss read the terms of this "innovation" more carefully, and saw what price they would pay for it.)

        Well, tell us what a terrible price they have to pay to get 2250 EUREC per month, it just became interesting. Or give a link where it is written.
        1. Dear sofa expert. 7 January 2021 17: 21
          -2
          Are you sure I should read about every Swiss? If you are sure why?

          I am convinced. Because the children were entitled to less, namely - 625 francs (against 2500 francs for adults.) And they, too, are "every Swiss."

          Well, tell us what a terrible price they have to pay to get 2250 EUREC per month, it just became interesting. Or give a link where it is written.

          Link? Yes please..

          https://www.swissinfo.ch/ger/schweiz-abstimmung-grundeinkommen-5-juni-initiative/42200348

          If you have problems with understanding, I will help you, but for now, try to figure it out yourself.)
          1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
            Afinogen (Afinogen) 7 January 2021 18: 07
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            Quote: Dear sofa expert.
            If there are problems with understanding

            Well, actually, I asked to tell you in a nutshell in your own words, and you decided to show yourself smart, gave a link in a foreign language. Your link is a mockery of a Russian person. If there is no normal link, it's better not to give it at all.
            1. Dear sofa expert. 7 January 2021 18: 46
              +2
              Well, actually, I asked to tell you in a few words in your own words, and you decided to show yourself smart,

              I haven’t decided anything. If for you a link in the original language is a mockery, then why do you undertake to argue on a topic alien to you?

              In a nutshell: 2500 francs - not in addition to the available income. For example: a person earns 1500. Up to 2500 he is paid extra 1000. There are few of them in Switzerland (Most of them are pensioners). For people with higher incomes (they are the majority), this amount is "included" in their available income, and they have no profit from it.
              Practically: it is designed for the poor.
              It would seem not bad, but the question remains: who should finance all this?
              Answer: Cancellation of social insurance, social. aid, other subsidies ... Well, and - an increase in the VAT tax (by 8%!) - this is the "terrible fee" that would ultimately fall on the shoulders of "haves" (and have-nots too ", because this is automatic raises prices for everything!) And much more. You just can't tell a lot in SMS format, and you yourself, as I understand it, don't want to study.

              Well, a little emotion.) - about those who are "below" .. free money is a complete demotivation to work. Why work if 2,5 is paid anyway, besides, it is a labor sector, where, as a rule, money is not earned in the easiest way. And who will do this work? )
              1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
                Afinogen (Afinogen) 7 January 2021 19: 21
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                Well, in principle, everything is clear. There is a law of conservation of energy, and here is a law of conservation of money lol If it arrives somewhere, it will disappear somewhere.

                Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                If for you a link in the original language is a mockery, then why do you undertake to argue on a topic alien to you?

                Here it is not clear what the foreign topic means? If, according to your original logic, a person does not know other languages, he should not learn anything? And I do not presume to argue (where did I argue?) I stated a fact. More. I learned new things while communicating with you and do not speak languages lol

                Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                and you yourself, as I understand it, do not want to study.

                How did you come to such disappointing conclusions full of tragedy? request In your opinion, if a person does not speak Swiss and, moreover, does not want to study it, then he does not want to study and is generally ignorant. Did I understand the direction of your thought correctly? On my own behalf, not everyone managed to learn at Harvard, well, it happened.
                1. Dear sofa expert. 7 January 2021 20: 07
                  +2
                  If, according to your original logic, a person does not know other languages, he should not learn anything?

                  I did not say that. I just wanted the best: the topic "Swiss referendum" - who, no matter how the Swiss themselves, will objectively cover it?
                  Good. Let's do it this way. You also "studied" this topic somewhere?
                  Well then give me your link. I will understand the course of your thoughts on this matter.

                  In your opinion, if a person does not speak Swiss and, moreover, does not want to study it, then he does not want to study and is generally ignorant.

                  Well, I'm sorry if I offended you with this.
                  Are there any more disagreements on the topic itself?
                  1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
                    Afinogen (Afinogen) 7 January 2021 20: 17
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                    Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                    Good. Let's do it this way. You also "studied" this topic somewhere?
                    Well then give me your link. I will understand the course of your thoughts on this matter.

                    Studied, it is loudly said. I just read on the endless expanses of the Internet.
                    Link please, just do not blame it in Russian.
                    https://www.interfax.ru/world/492477
                  2. Dear sofa expert. 7 January 2021 20: 30
                    +2
                    Link please, just do not blame it in Russian.

                    Thanks for reading your link.
                    As expected, the topic there, to put it mildly, is disclosed "not really", from the word - suck, no way, that's where our disagreements arose.

                    I am Russian, and I don’t shy away from the Russian language.) (If anything)
          2. bobba94 Offline bobba94
            bobba94 (Vladimir) 7 January 2021 18: 49
            +3
            Killed! He killed in one phrase - A link in a foreign language is a mockery of a Russian person.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2021 17: 35
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    Quote: Athenogen
    Quote: AlexZN
    You haven't even tried to figure out this beautiful fairy tale ..

    How can you so categorically assert that which is not? request I tried to make sense of this beautiful fairy tale. I read that there will be a referendum in Switzerland on the payment of 2250 EUR per month to each Swiss. But I didn't even think that they would refuse, I thought they were getting them now. Kucheryavo live probably once refused.

    I will surprise you even more. At the plebescite, the Swiss decided not to abolish the general military service. Voluntarily!
    In general, most of their laws are adopted at national elections - this is the next level of democracy (behind a representative one in the form of parliament), which is possible only in countries with high civic responsibility. And not the poor.
    But guaranteed payments by the state of amounts not related to salaries - this is already in the air of the rich Scandinavian countries. I think while they are experimenting, but they will definitely introduce it.
    So far, developed countries use the method of conventional units, which reduce the amount of income tax only for citizenship.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 7 January 2021 18: 08
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      Alexzn... Today, it has been verified that, on average, an ant lifts a weight 50 times its own, but a person cannot. smile
    2. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
      Afinogen (Afinogen) 7 January 2021 18: 09
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      Quote: AlexZN
      At the plebescite, the Swiss decided not to abolish the general military service. Voluntarily!

      They did it right.
  • bobba94 Offline bobba94
    bobba94 (Vladimir) 7 January 2021 18: 43
    +1
    I kept thinking .... whether or not they will, it's such a freebie. Don't be fooled ..... I then started to respect the Swiss
  • Uneven Offline Uneven
    Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 7 January 2021 11: 55
    -2
    A small amendment: the Duma, according to the current Constitution, is just a rubber stamp, which confirms the decisions of the presidential administration.
  • zz811 Offline zz811
    zz811 (Vlad Pervovich) 7 January 2021 11: 00
    +1
    Quote: Athenogen
    China refused to consider Russia a superpower

    That's absolutely on the drum over power or not. The main thing is how the inhabitants of this country live. For example Switzerland, a small country, I would say very much. From minerals, mountains and mind, there is no oil, no gold, no gas, no state Duma, nothing, and the inhabitants live like chocolate in butter. The Swiss government pays each Swiss every month 2250 euros (excluding salary at work) for being Swiss. And take our country, the richest state on planet Earth, no richer, and the people vegetate in poverty. And the State Duma is still thinking how to sand the people, like the pension was cut, the tax was introduced to the self-employed, and he (the people) still lives. But the patience of the people is not eternal.

    I'm certainly not an economist, but maybe there are few problems in Switzerland, because the country is small? )
    1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2021 11: 53
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      Quote: zz811
      I'm certainly not an economist, but maybe there are few problems in Switzerland, because the country is small? )

      The lower the salary, apartment, car ... the less problems?
    2. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 7 January 2021 18: 11
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      Had a chance to work and visit here and there. Geneva is my favorite city. Small, architecture of the 15th century, and next to a glass bank, but somehow cozy. Memorial plaque to Lenin, another leader of the Red Chapel. The castle, which either geese or ladies with saucepans saved. Castle in Montreux, praised by Byron. On the other side is Lac Lehman (that's how they have it) Mont Blanc. Who will plan your trip, keep in mind ... You will not regret ...
  • steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 7 January 2021 11: 13
    -2
    Superpowers do not pay tribute to others, but collect tribute from others! Therefore, China is as far as a superpower, as it is to Moscow on foot.
  • Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 7 January 2021 11: 27
    +2
    Sure, not a problem.
    Let the Chinese in real life, with penguins hack to death. Let them prove whose kung fu is better.
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 7 January 2021 11: 54
      -2
      Chinese in real life, with penguins hacked to death.

      There are not so many of those penguins left in Antarctica, God forbid the Chinese will find some kind of "vitamin" in them, by analogy with bats.
      In one thing, they are right, the new rossiyansky democrats, having lost and given away many of the achievements of the overthrown USSR, after 30 years continue to use the stolen backlog of the "decadent" national economy and the military-industrial complex of the USSR and then gracefully pocket and sell everything that they can reach.
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  • argo44 Offline argo44
    argo44 (mac) 7 January 2021 11: 49
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    They seem to explain why they should invade you.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 7 January 2021 21: 32
      +1
      No. They explain to YOURSELF how cool they are, how "superpower" they are ............... They do not understand a very simple thing - a superpower, not a superpower, but Russia restrains everyone and everything so that THEY DO NOT DESTROY THIS PLANET, having unleashed the last war .......
  • Vera Potemkina Offline Vera Potemkina
    Vera Potemkina (Vera) 7 January 2021 12: 17
    +1
    At the expense of multinationality, but I do not mean the indigenous population, but visitors from Central Asia, you can agree with China. After all, not very educated and poor people come to us, but "very religious, for whom you have to pay everywhere, And they treat Russia like a cash cow, Unlike the Chinese, the indigenous population lives there, who are not indifferent to their homeland. to interest them in childbearing.
  • depavel Offline depavel
    depavel (Pavel Pavlovich) 7 January 2021 14: 18
    -4
    Eliminating the possibility of Russia to become a superpower Putin, to abolish apartheid to non-citizens compatriots in the Russian Federation, one thing, talking about "the most divided nation" is another. Not without hypocrisy, of course. Human factor? Artificially created from laymen, members of the government, and even followers. The Chinese are waiting for the army to rot, like the FSB, the Economy, the Central Bank.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 7 January 2021 21: 35
      0
      Well, nonsense, Pasha, well, nonsense! wassat
  • Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 7 January 2021 14: 20
    +2
    the economy suffered, the situation in which gradually deteriorated. As a result, there was an economic collapse that caused the collapse of the USSR

    The economy of the USSR gradually began to degrade after the death of J.V. Stalin, and until the collapse of the state in the party there was no person equivalent to V.V. Putin and his Leninist New Economic Policy. In the absence of a leading and cementing political party of the proletariat, this policy will gradually undergo changes until it comes to naught and big business takes control of the state into its own hands.

    it is still impossible to say unequivocally that it will be able to return the superpower status in the future

    The Russian Federation could become a superpower under the condition of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but there is no such political party, unlike the PRC.
    Common in the USSR was the understanding of interethnic class unity and solidarity of all working people, the construction of socialism.
    After the coup d'etat and the restoration of capitalism, the proletariat in the Russian Federation was declassified, and its political, economic, ideological, cultural and all other institutions were destroyed.
    The construction of a society of developed capitalism, when a small handful of oligarchs of the ruling class exploit and appropriate the results of labor, a priori cannot be a unifying factor due to fundamental class contradictions.
    Different and often mutually exclusive interests of groups and groupings of big business in a multinational state inevitably spin the flywheel of interethnic strife and ultimately lead to the disintegration of the state. Therefore, the RF has no chance of becoming a superpower.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 7 January 2021 21: 37
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      Don't be so categorical ...
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  • Miffer Offline Miffer
    Miffer (Sam Miffers) 7 January 2021 17: 46
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    The Chinese think and look in Chinese. They are not British, not Brazilians, and not Russian, so they have their own view of the world. And they have a right to it.
    If in my opinion: the Russian Empire - 5-6 places in all world indicators; USSR - 2nd place in all respects; The Russian Federation - 5-6 places in all indicators.
    PS I have not checked the source of this opus, perhaps the source there is generally unclear or lost; unfortunately, I don't know Chinese, so I can't check its contents either. And there is no way at all to believe the words of local scribblers.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 7 January 2021 21: 38
      0
      This is really so!
      And one more thing - since when did the Chinese say something good about Russia ???
  • Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 7 January 2021 20: 42
    0
    It would be interesting to conduct a survey - agree (or where would you like) whether you live in a superpower with an average salary of $ 300-400, or in a simple, normal country with an average salary of $ 2000-3000, what would be the result?
    1. Miffer Offline Miffer
      Miffer (Sam Miffers) 8 January 2021 06: 53
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      "Naked" salary figures do not say anything at all. With these figures, it would also be necessary to write down the figures for the compulsory expenses - housing, transport, medicine, food. And I admit that after deducting all of the above from the ceiling of your dreams of $ 3000, there will be zero (0) points and a few hundredths of this amount.
      Now in every "simple, normal country" the legislation is arranged in such a way that all preferences are received by local residents, who were born there, who worked there all their lives, who perfectly know the local language, customs, manners, traditions adhering to an identical religion, and not "come in large numbers" from Sudan-Libya-Syrian-Afghans and writing their first and last names in different alphabets.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2021 21: 56
    +1
    Quote: Igor Berg
    It would be interesting to conduct a survey - agree (or where would you like) whether you live in a superpower with an average salary of $ 300-400, or in a simple, normal country with an average salary of $ 2000-3000, what would be the result?

    3000 bucks is a very modest salary in the west. You must specify - so that prices are like Russia, then such a salary will sound.
  • Praskovya Offline Praskovya
    Praskovya (Praskovya) 10 January 2021 00: 43
    -1
    To tear away from China 24 percent of the territories and 36 percent of industrial centers. I wish I could look at them
  • Mister who Offline Mister who
    Mister who (Max) 11 January 2021 18: 00
    -1
    Pug imagines himself an elephant))
  • qpeqop Offline qpeqop
    qpeqop (Sergei) 11 January 2021 19: 59
    0
    It's like my wife: she says, she says, and then she doesn't even remember what she said. So you don't have to be serious about everything that comes off your tongue. And if the spiteful critics also start trying to talk about it, the divorce is guaranteed, from scratch. So look at the root, be able to see the main thing. And the main thing is that now Russia and China need each other. We will proceed from this. And we will send the "well-wishers" away.