Erdogan bets on nuclear weapons: Ankara is in secret negotiations with Pakistan

January 4 2021 38

Turkish and Pakistani authorities discuss at the highest level the transfer of nuclear weapons to Ankara of technologies, which is causing concern to the Indian media. According to Zeenews experts, in order to implement his geopolitical plans, Turkish President Recep Erdogan drew attention to nuclear weapons.

On December 22-23, 2020, a regular meeting was held within the framework of the Turkish-Pakistani High-Level Military Dialogue Group (HLMDG), during which, in addition to cooperation in the field of the defense industry, the nuances of the exchange of nuclear and missile technologies between Turkey and Pakistan were discussed. According to sources, during secret negotiations, Erdogan personally asked the commander-in-chief of the Pakistani army, General Bajwa, to share nuclear technologies with Ankara, to which the Pakistani side agreed.

Erdogan has long openly stated his stake on nuclear weapons and does not hide it.

Some countries have nuclear missiles, why can't we have them? I cannot accept this. Israel is next to us and it scares us

- said the Turkish leader back in September 2019.

According to Zeenews, Islamabad has long been engaged in the illegal trade in nuclear weapons technology, and Ankara is promoting this criminal business. According to some media reports, Turkey may have a large number of nuclear centrifuges produced in Pakistan.

The next HLMDG meeting is scheduled for 2021, and insiders report that both countries have committed themselves to meeting certain goals by that time.

According to the publication, Erdogan considers the nuclear and missile forces of Pakistan as an important tool for realizing his geostrategic aspirations. The bilateral exchange of defense technology and military-industrial equipment makes peace in the region fragile and unstable.

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Restless Sagittarius

+3

4 January 2021 14: 40

If Erdogon wants to destroy Turkey, then nuclear weapons are what he needs.

1) The production of nuclear weapons is very expensive, and Turkey does not have the money even for a significant update of the country's tank fleet (the basis of Turkey's tank forces is the antediluvian Leopard-1, they are the majority in the Turkish army).

2) Turkey has spoiled its relations with Saudi Arabia, France, Russia, and relations with the United States are very tense.

3) How many nuclear warheads and how much power can Turkey get, what means of delivery ?! It is unlikely that there would be much

4) Means for delivering nuclear warheads, even in the form of medium-range missiles, are expensive and science-intensive, and Turkey, so far, cannot even produce tanks at its factories, everything that is has been purchased from the FRG and the USA.

5) Saudi Arabia, France, Russia, the United States already have nuclear weapons and there are quite a few of them. Any attempt to use nuclear weapons against these countries will turn Turkey into a dead desert, for a retaliatory strike by any of these countries will be crushing
1. Uneven
  
  -8
  
  4 January 2021 14: 56
  
  Russia did not even have the money to keep the retirement age within reasonable limits. But it has not yet renounced nuclear weapons. Why?
  India and Pakistan are far from being the leaders in terms of the standard of living of their citizens and are far behind Turkey. But they, oddly enough, not only have nuclear weapons, but are not going to give it up.
  What do you think, if Ukraine did not believe in the guarantees given to it by Russia regarding the inviolability of its territorial integrity and kept the world's third-largest arsenal of nuclear weapons, would Russia dare to poke its nose into Crimea and Donbas?
  1. Restless Sagittarius
    
    +4
    
    4 January 2021 15: 12
    
    1) Remind you that people are wiping with the Turkish lira today, or do you yourself remember ?! In addition, do not compare the scientific potential of countries such as the Russian Federation and Turkey, Russia is one of the most educated countries in the world and it is recognized outside the borders of the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation itself produces all types of weapons. Turkey does not have such an opportunity.
    
    2) In India there is a caste system, there are brahmanas, for example, a very educated group of people and very wealthy. The army there is also not poor, there is a developed industry, and in Turkey there is nothing but Scotch whiskey of dubious quality, diluted with dirty water.
    
    3) Ukraine did not have enough intelligence not enough money even to keep in its fleet 4 frigates received by Ukraine after the division of the USSR fleet. Nuclear weapons are much more expensive than the navy and are inaccessible to people like you. `` Not a hat for Senka ''
    1. Uneven
      
      -7
      
      4 January 2021 16: 11
      
      1) What does Russia have to do with it, which parasitizes on the remnants of the potential of the USSR? Turkey ranks 66th in terms of GDP per capita. Nuclear Powers: India 149th and Pakistan 157th.
      2) Ukraine, despite the aggression on the part of the guarantor - Russia and its annexation of part of the territory of Ukraine, is also higher than India and Pakistan - 113th place.
      And in 1994, when the Budapest Memorandum was signed, the standard of living in Ukraine was higher than in Russia. But the Ukrainian Yeltsiputs, like in Russia, did not waste their time. The only question is the scale - it takes a little more time to plunder Russia.
      1. Restless Sagittarius
        
        +6
        
        4 January 2021 16: 16
        
        1) And Ukraine does not parasitize on the remnants of the potential of the USSR ?! She even parasitized the USSR. GDP is not the main thing here, the main thing is purchasing power within the country, the price of a product made domestically. The US has a big GDP won, and the price of the product is such that one missile made in the states of India can respond with 10 missiles.
        
        2) In terms of GDP, Ukraine is higher than India, but if you imagine a war between them, India Ukraine piles up at times.
        
        3) You can wipe the Budapest Memorandum, no one has ratified it, not even Ukraine itself. And after Ukraine fought against the Russian Federation on the side of Georgia and burned Russians in Odessa on the basis of nationality, the Russian Federation can only guarantee Ukraine a bunch of people.
        
        Uneven
        
        -7
        
        4 January 2021 16: 25
        
        1) Present-day Ukraine "piles on" and Russia. Turkey did it?
        2) The Budapest Memorandum entered into force at the time of signing - study the text.
        3) The state of Ukraine did not fight against the Russian Federation on 08.08.2008. Volunteers from different countries took part.
        4) The events in Odessa 2014 were initiated by Russia.
        
        Restless Sagittarius
        
        +7
        
        4 January 2021 16: 32
        
        1) Where Turkey piled on Russia? Turkey lost most of the Russian-Turkish wars, and now it does not shine!
        2) Without ratification by the parliament, no document enters into force, with the exception of countries with an absolute monarchy, and the Russian Federation is not such.
        3) Do not tell me fables about volunteers, there were officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Georgia, not volunteers, and this has been proven. Even in the program "War Correspondent" on the central television of the Russian Federation, they showed the faces of your warriors. In addition, if Ukraine were a friendly state to the Russian Federation, it would have brought the bandits who fought against the Russian Federation to justice, and since you did not blame yourself.
        4) Yeah, the Russians in Odessa (themselves) burned, heard ... We wish you and you like to end your days in the same way.
        
        Uneven
        
        -8
        
        4 January 2021 16: 47
        
        1) In Syria.
        2) Have you read the text of the Memorandum? From there: "This Memorandum will be applicable from the date of signature." On November 16, 1994, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted Law No. 248/94-ВР "On Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons of July 1, 1968", where one of the points states:
        
        6. This Law shall enter into force after the nuclear states provide Ukraine with security guarantees, formalized by signing the relevant international legal document
        
        3) If the Central Television of the Russian Federation is a "source of information" for you, then all I can do is express my deepest condolences to you.
        4) There is a sea of video documents in Odessa. Look carefully - how it was ...
        
        Restless Sagittarius
        
        +3
        
        4 January 2021 16: 57
        
        1) In Syria? Don't make me laugh. The allegedly defeated Russian Federation in Syria all the time only increases the territory it controls /
        
        2) Have you familiarized yourself with the constitutions of countries, the rights and obligations of the persons who signed the Budapest Memorandum ?! Which of the signatories was a king, had absolute power? There was no such thing. Any law, agreement signed by the president must be approved by parliament, without this the price of toilet paper. Well, it was also approved by the Verkhovna Rada (your parliament), not the president, who does not have the right to resolve such issues in one person. And do not confuse the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons with the Budapest Memorandum, these are two different things.
        
        3) What does the shopping center have to do with it ?! Ukraine did not condemn or extradite to the Russian Federation a single bandit who fought against the Russian Federation! And what kind of friendship between our countries and what guarantees do you dare to write after that ?! After that, the Russian Federation does not owe you anything except lyuly, and even more so the Russian Federation does not owe anything to Saakashvili's lackeys, including your Yushchenko, who is his godfather.
        
        4) You will still be tried for Odessa!
        
        Uneven
        
        -9
        
        4 January 2021 17: 13
        
        1) After Turkey shot down the Russian SU-24, Putin's plans to lay 4 branches of the Turkish Stream collapsed. Turkey did not allow Russia to take control of the Turkish-Syrian border as it planned.
        2) Once again, I quote the final phrase of the Memorandum: "This Memorandum will be applicable from the moment of its signing." On the basis of its signing, Ukraine adopted a corresponding law on the abandonment of nuclear weapons.
        3) Example. During the 1992-1994 Karabakh war, the Russian armed forces fought against Armenia on the side of Azerbaijan. In addition, servicemen of the Russian army fought for both sides for money. Armenia's claims against Russia can be understood and explained why the Armenians want the Russians to get out. But regarding mercenaries, no one even bothers.
        4) This is our way - under the judgment of the one whom we set up!
        
        Restless Sagittarius
        
        +4
        
        4 January 2021 17: 21
        
        1) After Turkey shot down the Su-24 of the Russian Air Force, Turkish fuel trucks in Syria burned for a long time, illuminating the night Arab sky. The territory controlled by Turkey in Syria is regularly reduced, so this situation doesn’t pull in Turkey’s victory.
        
        2) Yes, the paper will endure everything, but even the president obeys the constitution and since according to the constitution his decision not approved by parliament is no more than an eggshell, then it is.
        
        3) You claim that the Russian Federation fought in Karabakh in the 90s on the side of Azerbaijan against Armenia and Armenia defeated both the Russian Federation and Azerbaijan in one person !!!! What did you smoke? You throw it, it's horror with what glitches you covered!
        
        4) Yes, you all (set up), that it was not a post-Soviet republic that separated from Russia, then pogroms and murders on ethnic grounds and (to blame), of course, the victims, they (themselves) threw themselves at your knives, (themselves) burned themselves, raped and robbed. You sell these fairy tales in Lviv, it won't work here /
        
        Uneven
        
        -7
        
        4 January 2021 17: 57
        
        1) Turkey in Syria successfully resolves its issues, and the Russian Federation has filled its own. The Turkish stream failed to replace the Ukrainian transit, for which everything was started.
        2) According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the last signature is for the President. In the case of the Memorandum, the signing of this document by the parties confirms their agreement with its text. And the text indicates that the Memorandum is valid from the moment of signing.
        3)
        During the summer offensive of Azerbaijani troops in 1992, the Russian 328th Airborne Guards Regiment under the command of Vladimir Shamanov fought on the Azerbaijani side. Later, the ex-Minister of Defense of Azerbaijan Rahim Gaziev, known for his pro-Russian position, linked the participation of the paratroopers with a direct order from the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Grachev: “Thanks to my good relations with Grachev, we received much more than envisaged. Do not forget about the Agderin operation, which was carried out by the Russian paratroopers. The Armenians were slapped well there. But it was Grachev who gave the order to help us. Do not forget that then we liberated 52% of the territory of the former NKAO. And this is thanks to the support of the Russian troops "
        
        en.wikipedia.org
        
        Restless Sagittarius
        
        +4
        
        4 January 2021 18: 04
        
        1) So far, Turkey is merging the territories previously controlled in Syria. If Lviv sees it differently, your problems.
        2) The Ukrainian transit is of no interest to anyone, since your rotten pipe needs to be overhauled, you have no money, and there are no bad investments in its repair on your terms. So your pipe will collapse completely in the near future and the question will be closed by itself. Gas pumping through Ukraine has already dropped significantly.
        3) In Lviv you can see the constitution as you like, but here, in the Russian Federation and in a number of other states, the president's signature must be backed up by the parliament, without this the document is not accepted.
        4) Yeah, do you at least understand what the army of the Russian Federation + the army of Azerbaijan is against the army of Armenia ?! Think more before you write fairy tales! Regiment -
        it is only 3000 people, he will not solve anything, except for the defense of 3-4 villages and adjacent fields and vegetable gardens. No need to rewrite nonsense.
        
        Uneven
        
        -5
        
        4 January 2021 20: 48
        
        1) Turkey in Syria seized the buffer areas in Syria, not allowing Russia there. In Libya, Turkey forced Haftar's Russian-backed army to flee Tripoli. For the first time in many years Turkey has penetrated the Caucasus.
        And everywhere Russia is powerless to oppose anything to it
        2) Russia was imposed on an absolutely enslaving agreement under which it will pay Ukraine for gas transit for 5 years, even if the volume of pumped gas is zero. In addition, Russia was forced to pay Ukraine $ 3 billion
        3) Do you want to say that the signature of the President of the Russian Federation is worthless? And he is not responsible for the signature he put on an international document?
        4)
        Do you even understand what the Russian army + the Azerbaijani army is against the Armenian army ?!
        
        I'm talking about facts, not about "concepts." By the way, the detachments of Basayev, Raduev, Khattab fought shoulder to shoulder with the Russian army with the Armenians. And they raked there in full ...
        Take off your blinders and read if you are really interested in this topic.
        
        Restless Sagittarius
        
        +2
        
        5 January 2021 00: 56
        
        1) Turkey merges the Russian Federation in Syria region by region. If you are not told this in Lviv, these are your difficulties. In Libya, Turkey made big problems for itself, having quarreled with the FRG, and with France and with Egypt and Saudi Arabia and the Russian Federation, and no one there is afraid of Turkey, even Egypt, which drew a red line for the Turks, in the case of the transition of which Egypt enters into Libya its troops.
        2) Your rusty pipe will soon cease to exist, whether you like it or not.
        3) There is no monarchy in the Russian Federation and the signature of the president is worthless without ratification by the State Duma. Without ratification by the State Duma, this is a declaration of intent, but not a law.
        4) You are delusional again. Ichkerians could not be in Karabakh, if only because they were at that time fighting in Abkhazia against Georgia and in Chechnya against the Russian Federation.
        
        Uneven
        
        -5
        
        5 January 2021 09: 41
        
        Turkey merges the Russian Federation into Syria region by region
        
        a) Can you clarify - which area was "merged by Turkey" and to whom exactly during the Syrian conflict?
        b) Can you tell me - What kind of friends has Russia "made" over the past 20 years?
        
        Your rusty pipe will soon cease to exist
        
        a) Whose is "your"?
        b) Apparently Gazprom does not know about this, since it has entered into a contract with Ukraine for pumping gas for 5 years and is ready to pay for this pipe even without pumping gas.
        c) The technical condition of the utility networks in Russia is many times worse than the Ukrainian gas system. Depreciation exceeds 80% and chronic accidents.
        
        it is a declaration of intent, but not a law.
        
        Are you saying that the "declaration of intent" signed by Yeltsin is worthless and Russia deliberately deceived Ukraine?
        
        You are delusional again. Ichkerians could not be in Karabakh, if only because at that time they were fighting in Abkhazia against Georgia and in Chechnya against the Russian Federation.
        
        Facts: http://www.nkr.am/ru/mercenaries-in-azerbaijani-army
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FixkJRh9mnk
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpRxUPpK1IE
        
        Restless Sagittarius
        
        +1
        
        8 January 2021 14: 20
        
        1) The regions of Syria controlled by the Russian Federation are regularly increasing, the map is in social networks. Take a look yourself.
        2) Yes, we are not asking anyone to be friends, but you should be pressed like that in the Russian Federation, just like you are ours in your countries. Mirror so to speak.
        3) Yours, Bandera. After the collapse of the USSR, you still have not been able and will not be able to do anything smart. Not with your talents.
        4) Don't make me laugh. In the Russian Federation, everything is relatively well repaired. Domestic gas explosions happen everywhere, this is a dangerous fuel. As for the state of your pipe, even your officials recognize it as deplorable.
        5) Why has not Ukraine itself ratified the Budapest Memorandum? If you didn't know, then your Verkhovna Rada never signed it (did not accept)
        6) In addition, the Russian Federation could guarantee you something only as long as you did not start shitting the Russian Federation in the Caucasus, under the flags of Ichkeria and Georgia. To guarantee the security of a country that is at war against you is stupid, to say the least.
        7) I am not interested in the nonsense on your links, I know perfectly well that Dudayev's Chechens fought in Abkhazia in the 90s, and not in Karabakh ...
        
        Uneven
        
        -2
        
        9 January 2021 09: 42
        
        1) Ie Are you unable to show what kind of "regions" Russia has grown in Syria? Would you like to ask the President of the Geographical Society of Russia Shoigu for help?
        
        2)
        We don’t ask anyone to be friends
        
        2) "Please"! Putin asked American presidents to join NATO three times. They never took ...
        
        3)
        After the collapse of the USSR, you still have not been able and will not be able to do anything smart
        
        Everything is relative. What has the Vlasov government done so “smart” over the years?
        
        4)
        In the Russian Federation, everything is relatively well repaired. Domestic gas explosions happen everywhere, this fuel is dangerous
        
        Do you want to say that apart from the "pops" of household gas, the rest of the communal apartment in Russia is in excellent condition?
        
        5)
        Why hasn't Ukraine itself ratified the Budapest Memorandum?
        
        Ukraine has fulfilled its obligations under the Memorandum, and Russia (meanly taking advantage of this) has violated its obligations.
        Do you keep your promises in everyday life only by a court decision or a good kick?
        
        6)
        It's stupid to guarantee the safety of a country that is fighting against you
        
        Let me remind you once again that Ukraine did not officially fight with Russia.
        And if we take into account the mercenaries and volunteers, then due to the presence of this public from Russia in almost all conflicts in the world, all international treaties with Russia can be safely thrown away.
        
        7)
        I'm not interested in the nonsense on your links
        
        a) If the facts are against us, so much the worse for the facts?
        b) And you try to "learn" (unless of course you are interested in this topic).
        In Abkhazia, of course, they also noted.
        
        Restless Sagittarius
        
        +1
        
        12 January 2021 19: 37
        
        You call your Mazepovtsy the Vlasov power, who swear allegiance to everyone and betray everyone, like a walking woman? And Putin did not ask to join Ukraine? If you add some more vodka, he will start asking for the Lviv region ... You tell fables about volunteers elsewhere, it won't work. Ukraine has not fulfilled the terms of the Treaty of Friendship with the Russian Federation and the neutral status of Ukraine, and if this is so, then the Russian Federation owes you nothing more, except for Lyuli.
        
        Uneven
        
        -4
        
        12 January 2021 21: 51
        
        You have not presented a single fact confirming your point of view. Nonsense at the kindergarten level is not proof.
        
        Restless Sagittarius
        
        0
        
        16 January 2021 19: 59
        
        If the contents of your skull and your Russophobia prevent you from understanding the obvious, then this does not make you an adult, but me a child, and taking into account the odorous pants that the Armed Forces of Ukraine regularly acquire in boilers, this is not a problem for the Russian Federation at all. They drive you a little, you need to stand on ceremony less with you.
        
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    2. Uneven
      
      -11
      
      4 January 2021 16: 13
      
      1) By the way, why did Ukraine need an army in principle, when Russia pledged to guard its territorial integrity?
      2) Reference: GDP by PPP Russia is at 39th, Turkey is at 40th places.
      1. Restless Sagittarius
        
        +6
        
        4 January 2021 16: 20
        
        Why did Ukraine fight against the guarantor of its security on the side of Georgia ?! Sunstroke, frostbite of the head, meningitis, schizophrenia ?! What is the reason for such an unwise act? Why did you kill the Russians ?! After all, first you burned the Russians in Odessa, and only then they gave you a kick from the Crimea, so you yourself made the mess, not the Russian Federation!
        
        Uneven
        
        -9
        
        4 January 2021 16: 27
        
        I have already answered these questions. Look carefully.
        
        Uneven
        
        -7
        
        4 January 2021 16: 53
        
        You are not good at the topic. The provocation of the Russian special services in Odessa took place on May 2, 2014. T.N. The "referendum" in Crimea, which resulted in NATO gaining Ukraine, was bungled on March 16, 2014.
        
        Restless Sagittarius
        
        +5
        
        4 January 2021 17: 00
        
        Yeah, and remind you when you burned the buses on which the Crimeans were traveling from the anti-Maidan, how your thugs killed people there, with bats and firearms ?! You can watch the film `` Crimea '' in 2017, where this moment is shown quite truthfully.
        
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  2. molotkov60mkpu
    
    +4
    
    4 January 2021 23: 34
    
    What is the guarantee for the corrupt Bandera? What are nuclear weapons for reckless unpredictable Nazis? Guarantees could be given for a neutral fraternal country, as we perceived it at first. But all obligations were canceled after the coup in 2014. America and Europe annexed fraternal Ukraine and Galicia Bandera's faction. What are the guarantees for this education? Yes, I would have taken control of the ruins by the forces of the MTR of the Russian Federation in 2014. Monkeys atomic clubs are dangerous to others.
    1. Uneven
      
      -4
      
      5 January 2021 10: 08
      
      all obligations canceled after the 2014 coup
      
      A coup d'etat with the annulment of the current Constitution was carried out by the current Russian government in 1993 by means of a military coup - the classical junta. What fraternal relations can there be with the Russian fascist junta?
      
      In Ukraine, Yanukovych's flight in 2014 is not a coup d'état. all other authorities acted in accordance with the current Constitution, which no one canceled.
2. Dust
  
  0
  
  5 January 2021 03: 52
  
  Saudi Arabia...
Uneven

-10

4 January 2021 14: 49

Islamabad has long been engaged in the illegal trade in nuclear weapons technology, and Ankara is promoting this criminal business.

What exactly is the "crime" of nuclear technology trade?
steelmaker

+3

4 January 2021 15: 18

Erdogan bets on nuclear weapons:

Who is not betting now? The Americans are doing what they are doing! I wonder what the US will do with Israel now? Iran has been shocked, but will it be swallowed with Turkey?
1. Just a cat
  
  +1
  
  4 January 2021 15: 31
  
  Well, what ... Biden will buy them Greenland and they will move again
Sergey Latyshev

+1

4 January 2021 16: 23

In general, after "causing concern for the Indian media" - everything is immediately clear.
no wonder the article is unsigned.
sgrabik

0

4 January 2021 16: 54

Nuclear weapons will not help Erdogan in any way, you need to have experience and technologies for handling him, as well as to have tactics and strategies for its use, Turkey does not have either one or the other and is not expected in the foreseeable future !!!
Jacques sekavar

+3

4 January 2021 23: 34

Nuclear weapons are a guarantee of the independence of any state, and in this respect the example of the DPRK is indicative.
The root cause is the dictatorial foreign policy of the United States, which is primarily due to the eve of the struggle for the transferred spheres of influence between the United States and China, the desire to enlist the support of as many states as possible and form a global “opposition” to the PRC.
The consequence of the transfer of spheres of influence will be a change in the existing world order, built by the United States "for itself."
The “butting” of the two superpowers creates the preconditions for other countries with sufficient potential of productive forces to become regional centers and subsequently bargain with the superpowers for favorable terms of cooperation.
Marciz

-1

5 January 2021 07: 15

Oh oh oh monkey reaching for the grenade !!!!!!
It's time to restore Byzantium, Istanbul to return its former name Constantinople !!!!!!!
Alexzn

-1

5 January 2021 11: 56

The appearance of nuclear weapons in Iran will automatically launch programs for its creation in Turkey, Saudi and Egypt. All four centers of power at the BW will have nuclear weapons, which is more than likely in the foreseeable future.
Semyon Semyonov_2

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5 January 2021 22: 07

This deal does not bode well. (