Media: Israeli attack submarine with nuclear weapons on board headed for Iran


On December 21, 2020, after passing the Strait of Hormuz, a US Navy unit consisting of an Ohio class submarine USS Georgia (SSGN 729) and two Ticonderoga-class missile cruisers, USS Port Royal (CG 73) and USS Philippine Sea (CG 58) entered the Persian Gulf. At the same time, the Middle Eastern media reported that one of the Israeli Navy's Dolphin-class attack submarines was heading towards the Iranian coast.


Experts suggest that a joint US-Israeli missile strike will be launched against Iran in January 2021. First of all, the Iranian air defense system will be neutralized, after which the Iranian nuclear industry facilities will be subjected to missile attacks.

The attack will also involve aviation. At the same time, a special role is assigned to Israeli submarines, which will have to launch Popeye Turbo cruise missiles, possibly with low-yield nuclear warheads.


Dolphin (Type 800) is a series of German modified Type 212 diesel-electric submarines specially designed for Israel. Tel Aviv has at its disposal three submarines of the Batch 1 series and three submarines of the improved version of the Batch 2 with an air-independent power plant. At the same time, the Israeli military department does not comment on the leak of information about the redeployment of part of its submarine forces.

Dolphin submarines have 6-10 torpedo tubes of 533 mm caliber and 4 - 650 mm. They are armed with torpedoes, mines, UGM-84C anti-ship missiles and Popeye Turbo SLCMs with a range of up to 1500 km. These cruise missiles can carry nuclear warheads with a capacity of up to 200 kilotons and are launched from 650 mm torpedo tubes. In the Indian Ocean, in the immediate vicinity of the Persian Gulf, the Israelis regularly keep up to two of their submarines.
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  1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 22 December 2020 10: 10
    +3
    Psychological pressure on Iran ahead of Biden's return to the nuclear deal.
  2. Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 22 December 2020 10: 14
    +2
    As if it is known for sure that the submarine is equipped with missiles with nuclear warheads.
    1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 22 December 2020 10: 19
      +3
      It is part of Israel's nuclear triad. The same would be if you questioned the presence of nuclear weapons on the Borea, despite the different class of submarines.
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 22 December 2020 11: 14
        +1
        It is part of Israel's nuclear triad

        It presumably the naval component of Israel's nuclear triad. The military leadership did not officially report whether Israel possesses nuclear weapons, nor did it report that these substrates are equipped with missiles with special warheads.
        1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
          Kristallovich (Ruslan) 22 December 2020 12: 14
          +1
          Whether Israel possesses nuclear weapons, the military leadership did not officially report

          Deadlock dispute. Obviously they have it. Let me remind you of the famous phrase of Golda Meir: “We have no nuclear weapons, but if necessary, we will use them”.
          1. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 22 December 2020 12: 30
            0
            Obviously they have it.

            Even if they have it, it is not a fact that it is installed on the media. And it is not a fact that the Dolphins are equipped with nuclear weapons.

            It's all about the wording of the title.
            1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
              Kristallovich (Ruslan) 22 December 2020 12: 46
              +2
              not the fact that

              Nice turnover. Suitable for almost everything. And most importantly, you don't need to prove anything.
              Once again: Israel has a nuclear triad. The only carrier at sea is Dolphin-class submarines. If, as you say, there is no CD with YABC, then there is no triad either. And she, again, there is.
              1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                Cyril (Kirill) 22 December 2020 13: 45
                +1
                And most importantly, you don't need to prove anything.

                So after all, it is you who are building a statement without proof.

                Israel has a nuclear triad. The only carrier at sea is the Dolphin-class submarines. If, as you say, there is no CD with YABC, then there is no triad either. And she, once again, is.

                Strange logic based on a false (more precisely, unproven) premise. Proving one unconfirmed statement through another
                1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
                  Kristallovich (Ruslan) 22 December 2020 13: 59
                  +1
                  Strange logic based on a false (more precisely, unproven) premise.

                  There are a number of expert opinions from Russia, the United States and other countries that Israel has a nuclear triad. These are people who deal with issues of defense, international security, military technologies. Everyone else, including me, is based on their opinion. To demand in this context the official data of Tel Aviv is, to put it mildly, stupid. This is classified information and you know it.
                  1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                    Cyril (Kirill) 22 December 2020 14: 12
                    -2
                    There are a number of expert opinions from Russia, the United States and other countries that Israel has a nuclear triad. These are people who are involved in defense, international security, and military technologies.

                    Authority (even objectively reliable) is not a sufficient basis to unambiguously assert the truth of any of his statements. This is the basis of logic.

                    Even the most expert of experts can be wrong or deliberately misleading.

                    So far there is no official statement by Israel about the presence of nuclear weapons, until Israel has used it in tests or in battle, until clear factual evidence has been demonstrated that it has nuclear weapons, that this nuclear weapons is on cruise missiles, and these CDs are installed on " Dolphins "- until then the title of the article remains incorrect.
                    1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
                      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 22 December 2020 14: 21
                      +4
                      Authority (even objectively reliable) is not a sufficient basis to unambiguously assert the truth of any of his statements. This is the basis of logic.

                      For me, the unambiguous statement of Golda Meir, the testimony of the Israeli nuclear physicist Mordechai Vanunu, given by the RUMO, the opinion of the ex-President of the United States Jimmy Carter (which, definitely, is not based on empty space), joint tests of atomic charges with South Africa, which is confirmed by Soviet intelligence sources, - it is quite enough to conclude that Tel Aviv has nuclear weapons. Moreover, the development and production of the Jericho-3 ICBM by Israel only confirms this fact, because the presence of an intercontinental missile is meaningless without a nuclear warhead.
          2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
            PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 24 December 2020 16: 08
            +1
            in Iran there is "no" Yao, but all his enemies for some reason are afraid of Iran's Yao.
  3. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 22 December 2020 10: 18
    +2
    At the same time, the Israeli military department does not comment on the leak of information about the redeployment of part of its submarine forces.

    Here laughing it became funny ourselves. It is in the media that all the dispositions and intentions are laid out, where, how many more and the names of the captains of the ships will be printed. Directly not secret armed forces. and the entrance courtyard. where paparazzi swarms lol However, when they really want to strike (for example, in Syria), then all this becomes known after the strike.
  4. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 22 December 2020 11: 02
    -1
    It would be wrong to rigidly reduce information to a lane: will - will not. In the context of what is happening in the BV and around Iran, the consequences of the US elections, the post-Karabakh conflict, there can be several versions. And each has a right to exist. In my opinion, the publication is quite believable. And that's why:
    1. After the elimination of Fakhridzadeh, Iran wants to warn about the consequences in case of retaliation.
    2. The moment to strike is optimal. The Russian Federation is associated with spending in Crimea, Donbass, confrontation with Ukraine, involvement in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, in the Syrian confrontation. Not until Iran. And the weakening of Iran plays into the hands of Russia. Although in words, if something happens, they will call for world peace.
    3. The coming of the Democrats to power means a return to a policy of compromise. Why shouldn't the outgoing administration drive a powerful wedge into it by striking Iran?
    4.Iran has no allies, the defense budget is de facto scanty - $ 13 billion, and in relation to the total budget ($ 36 billion)
    - giant. Israel, for example: the defense budget is 20.5 billion, the total is 150 billion. The US defense budget is 700 billion, the RF is 70 billion. What would not hit something?
    5. Iran in zugwang, where he drove himself. There are no allies. From the word at all. China? But any union presupposes some kind of agreement, obligation. This is not the case in Sino-Iranian relations.

    So it is possible. A reason is needed. But this is a technical matter. History remembers Gavrila Principa, Gleiwitz, the mining incident, the explosion of the cruiser Maine ...
    The version about warning Iran not to make sudden movements is also possible. And any others: only with varying degrees of probability. The situation is favorable.

    Well, - thought Alice, - the pigs are suppressed, then things will go more fun

    (L. Carroll)

    Submarines will bring the Strait of Hormuz and events to life. We are waiting for Iran's reaction. On her actually and counting, I suppose.
    1. ioan-e Offline ioan-e
      ioan-e (Boris) 22 December 2020 11: 38
      0
      At the same time, if Iran shows will, then it will have enough missiles to demolish the state of Israel from the world map and a couple of large US bases in the region!
      1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
        Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 23 December 2020 02: 07
        -3
        It would be worthwhile to study the issue that you want to talk about better, so as not to look like a layman. There are very few missiles capable of covering about 2000 km (for example, Shihab-3, and it will definitely not be able to "wipe Israel off the map of the world"). And given the Israeli missile defense system. But for Iran the consequences of such an attempt will definitely be the most deplorable. At one time, the chief of the Israeli General Staff said that an attempt to attack Israel with unconventional weapons would be the end of the Persian civilization.
        1. ioan-e Offline ioan-e
          ioan-e (Boris) 23 December 2020 15: 14
          +3
          Quote: Natan Bruk
          It would be worthwhile to study the issue that you want to talk about better, so as not to look like a layman. There are very few missiles capable of covering about 2000 km (for example, Shihab-3, and it will definitely not be able to "wipe Israel off the map of the world"). And given the Israeli missile defense system. But for Iran the consequences of such an attempt will definitely be the most deplorable. At one time, the chief of the Israeli General Staff said that an attempt to attack Israel with unconventional weapons would be the end of the Persian civilization.

          A man with a negative reputation on the site, why do your Jewish pilots hit the territory of Syria and Lebanon over and over again? Is it because your profane IDF suspects that there are all kinds of "Tondars" and "Fatekhs" or something worse? What some general of yours said is his problem. Don't say gop until you've jumped! About your missile defense - "According to the Rafael company, according to the results of using the system in combat conditions, the Iron Dome is capable of intercepting targets with a probability of more than 90%. The system is capable of detecting a threat in 100% of cases, but the complex did not always manage to destroy several simultaneously launched shells ". And the raid will be "star", or in several waves with the use of a large number of missiles in a salvo. In any case, after a serious weakening of the United States, Israel will have a few weeks to live, and even less with an attack on Tehran!
          1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
            Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 23 December 2020 18: 18
            -2
            For big "specialists" - what is in Lebanon and Syria has nothing to do with long-range missiles and cannot "demolish the state of Israel from the map of the world." If I could, I would have done it long ago. After the first volleys, all these reserves very quickly would cease to exist, which was demonstrated, for example, in the 2 Lebanon War. Hezbollah had more than a dozen THOUSANDS of such missiles supplied by Iran, and that they helped her a lot? The vast majority of them were destroyed in the first hours of the war, therefore The destruction caused by the neglected was minimal. It was a good lesson for Hezbollah and its patrons from Iran - until 2006, every day there was shelling and provocations, and after that there was absolute silence. And Nasrallah himself has been sitting like a rat in a bunker for 14 years. just ridiculous. In 1948,1967,1973, 5, 1948, 1967 regular Arab armies fought, and with the full and all-embracing support of the "great-mighty", who himself took part and how did it end? The shameful defeat of your friends and the 1973 The USSR. Moreover, in 4 and XNUMX, the United States helped Israel a little less than nothing, in XNUMX with weapons, but in no way more and not in better quality than the USSR to the Arabs. And what the "general" said, these are not his problems, but Iran's , since Israel does not throw words to the wind and is responsible for words. Well, you have the same knowledge about the Israeli missile defense system - there is not only the Iron Dome, there are actually XNUMX floors and systems are constantly being improved. So, again, yours "Expert" reasoning is ridiculous, no more.
            1. ioan-e Offline ioan-e
              ioan-e (Boris) 24 December 2020 09: 57
              +1
              First, I don't consider myself an expert. Secondly, in the second Lebanon war, your "wonderful Israel", despite being outnumbered, received pi ...., got it, which caused a deep political crisis. Disgrace, 30 thousand Jewish soldiers with a hundred tanks and almost a hundred armored personnel carriers received from 5 thousand machine gunners with 40 guns and a bare fifth point. Galloperidol will help you to get rid of illusions about tens of thousands of destroyed terrible missiles. Live and enjoy a short life. And about the missile defense, I just quoted the report of your Jewish manufacturer of this system, all the more offensive right? I have an amazing feeling that under the screams of the Holocaust, you Jews yourself become fascists! Your attitude towards the peoples around you is no better than the attitude of the nasty Hitler towards you. Endless strikes on the territory of a sovereign state, Syria, under the formal cover of an unfinished war. Arrogance and the use of the right of the strong does not paint you. And as soon as they step on the tail, I whine all over the world and run to Fashington for help. Your "vaunted" IDF has barely enough ammunition for three days of intense hostilities, which the Americans demonstrated to you, without giving permission to use ammunition from their warehouses located at your place. And your artodoxes, it's just a song, God forbid you get stuck in one elevator, the stench is such that you might not survive. They are even kicked out of planes in tolerant America. Faith is faith, but you have to wash yourself. Why the heck in my Moscow, near my hometown, this center of tolerance of yours, take it to hell in Haifa or wherever. Is the synagogue nearby? When we studied in the 90s, they blow up the synagogue, and the wall at our shooting gallery falls, why the heck such a neighborhood? By God I have a good attitude to all peoples, I was taught this even in the pioneers, but to endure arrogance from others ....... I don’t understand why our team wasn’t given to the Syrians, and they didn’t provide dots, so that after the next air raid across Syria, the airfield from which the planes took off was leveled into rubble with the entire train, that's when they would have checked your vaunted dome.
  5. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 22 December 2020 12: 05
    -3
    Quote: ioan-e
    At the same time, if Iran shows will, then it will have enough missiles to demolish the state of Israel from the world map and a couple of large US bases in the region!

    Amused. Missile capabilities are enough to scratch Israel.
  6. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 22 December 2020 13: 15
    -3
    Quote: ioan-e
    At the same time, if Iran shows will, then it will have enough missiles to demolish the state of Israel from the world map and a couple of large US bases in the region!

    You very correctly and appropriately in your post stipulated the possibility of an attack on Israel with the word "if". Objectively, Iran does not have unconventional weapons. So there is simply nothing to demolish Israel with. Tehran's Air Force does not impress not only Israel, but the entire world community. One, and a few missiles, cannot destroy the Jewish state. Under no circumstances. Rockets are essentially a carrier
    conventional bombs. Even a dozen at a time. And in the presence of an ultra-modern Israeli multi-level air defense, the defeat of Israeli territory is initially very problematic. A couple of years ago, with one missile, a Jewish girl, Or Naaman, landed a Syrian MiG that entered Israeli airspace for only two minutes.
    However, no one bothers the Persians, menacingly puff out their cheeks. Which is what they do. In fairness, we must admit that here they are unsurpassed masters. This, of course, is not a trademark formidable silence. But anyway.
    1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 11: 13
      +1
      And in the presence of an ultra-modern Israeli multi-level air defense, the defeat of the territory of Israel is initially very problematic. /// except that in your imaginations .. a leaky dome has an effect of 40% and that's all .. and this is against handicrafts of Hamas .. and Iranian missiles are hypersonic, multiblocks and high accuracy ... the January strike on the US bases showed it ... I remember Trump shouted loudly that Iran would be bombed, if the Persians even shoot at the American military ... And Iran shot and so and that the Americans quickly calmed down ... became afraid for themselves and your values ​​..
      1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
        Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 23 December 2020 18: 24
        0
        "Leaky dome" except in someone's holey brains, Its efficiency is estimated by independent experts to be about 90%. Di and it is only an element of the system, there are only 4 floors. Hamas has long been not "handicrafts", but serial analogs of Grad And the Iranians, of course, committed a terrible revenge - they demolished several empty sheds at one base, and not even a single seriously wounded one. The Americans were terribly frightened :))) Oh, these victims of propaganda ...
  7. Yurets Offline Yurets
    Yurets (Yuri) 22 December 2020 13: 18
    +1
    It is necessary to "accidentally" drown these submarines ... Israel started playing
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 22 December 2020 14: 25
      +2
      Has the huge queue of those who sink the submarines of Israel and the United States already lined up? Probably the rest of the many who wish, will have to register in advance ...)
  8. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 December 2020 13: 19
    +1
    It's like a bike - a shepherd and wolves.

    The media have already promised a strike on Iran so many times, the aircraft carriers from SYRIA and so on, so on, that I can't believe it anymore ...
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 22 December 2020 15: 05
      -1
      The probability is there. Another question is that it should coincide with a change in the situation, its aggravation. If Iran gives a reason to substitute, they will hit. While sitting quietly. Like a mouse under a broom. Not least because it understands the danger of attacking its own facilities, primarily nuclear ones. And all the Iranian steam goes off to the whistle. For example, a drug dealer died in a criminal showdown between Arab clans in Israel. Iran, through the controlled domestic media, as well as controlled foreign ones, allowed a "leak" of information that the Mossad leader was killed. I remember how much joy there was on this site. So it is possible. And on the other, no, no ... It is fraught.
  9. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 22 December 2020 15: 29
    -5
    I can imagine what a nervous situation reigns now in the ruling structures of Iran. But everything could be different - you should be friends with Israel, it is much healthier ...
    1. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
      Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 22 December 2020 17: 30
      +5
      It doesn't make sense. There are some inadequate leaders in Israel who shoot themselves in the knee over and over again. It would be possible, if they were frostbitten, but smart for themselves. But everything is different, they are frostbitten and stupid.
  10. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
    Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 22 December 2020 17: 28
    +3
    Iran should acquire nuclear weapons as soon as possible.
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 22 December 2020 19: 38
      -5
      Quote: Kuramori Reika
      Iran should acquire nuclear weapons as soon as possible.

      And you also call someone frostbitten and stupid? lol
  11. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 22 December 2020 20: 00
    -4
    In general, it is not very clear why site visitors react so actively to a completely trivial event? The final paragraph notes that Israeli submarines are constantly on duty near the coast of Iran. We see the usual changing of the guard. In that old song about submariners - "When a tired submarine from the depths goes home ..."
    1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 11: 04
      +1
      In general, it is not very clear why site visitors react so actively to a completely trivial event? Yes, Iran has high-precision weapons, there is evidence that heavy ICBMs have also been developed for the delivery of atomic charges to enemies .. And what is actually bad about that? Other countries have these and missiles and charges, then who decided that Iran is prohibited? And who are the judges?
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 23 December 2020 15: 18
        0
        Dear, you just write from some other reality. Here, in our world, as it was decided in Jerusalem, it will be so: the Persians will not see their nuclear weapons or high-precision weapons. Your naive dreams of Iran's victory over Israel will remain so dreams, and if you hear that the Ayatollah regime still decided to attack Israel, you can immediately start drinking for the peace of the souls of Shiite obscurantists and their successful resettlement in the arms of the houris. And we in Israel will drink to life and another victory of our army over the enemy. drinks
  12. Ruslan Yamaltdinov (Ruslan Yamaltdinov) 23 December 2020 06: 00
    +2
    No matter how Israel is pushing!) The answer will fly to them !!))
  13. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 08: 20
    +2
    nonsense ... after this there is little left of Israel ... only Hezbollah has 130 thousand missiles ... these burners will have nowhere to return
    1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 23 December 2020 18: 29
      -1
      In 2006, it was not much less. And how much did they help the Hezbollons? In the very first hours, most of them were destroyed.
  14. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 08: 22
    +2
    Quote: Kuramori Reika
    Iran should acquire nuclear weapons as soon as possible.

    this has already been done most likely .. because hoping for the honesty of the United States is not worth it ..
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 23 December 2020 09: 00
      0
      Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
      Quote: Kuramori Reika
      Iran should acquire nuclear weapons as soon as possible.

      this has already been done most likely .. because hoping for the honesty of the United States is not worth it ..

      Iran currently has no nuclear weapons. I hope it won't. What is not only Israel interested in, but I believe also Russia. Which the leadership of Iran considers a little Satan.
  15. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 08: 28
    +1
    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    I can imagine what a nervous situation reigns now in the ruling structures of Iran. But everything could be different - you should be friends with Israel, it is much healthier ...

    the Zion regime behaves much more nervous, because Iranian proxies already have 130 thousand missiles that will dig through Israel far and wide, not really figuring out who is the big Zionist and who is the smaller
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 23 December 2020 08: 54
      0
      Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
      Quote: Bindyuzhnik
      I can imagine what a nervous situation reigns now in the ruling structures of Iran. But everything could be different - you should be friends with Israel, it is much healthier ...

      the Zion regime behaves much more nervous, because Iranian proxies already have 130 thousand missiles that will dig through Israel far and wide, not really figuring out who is the big Zionist and who is the smaller

      First of all, due to the aggressive behavior of Iran, the Israeli submarine performs the role of a psychiatrist in the Strait of Hormuz. A kind of medical prevention of dangerous relapses of patients with Islamic radicalism.
      Your post: a set of unconfirmed information and stamps. There are no concrete examples of Israel's intemperance towards Iran, as well as references to 130000 missiles that "will dig through all of Israel." While on the part of the opponent, there are plenty of facts of nervous breakdown. In particular, public threats to destroy Israel. For my part, I can only say: could Tehran strike at Jerusalem, it would have struck long ago. We see something else: the process of establishing relations between Israel and the Arab world, successful operations to eliminate the most ardent Iranian Islamic fanatics. And apart from the traditional Persian emotional threats to destroy Israel, nothing else. Hence the answer to the question: a) who is nervous, then: Iran, or Israel? And the real possibilities of the Persians to compete with the Jewish state on the battlefield.
      1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
        PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 10: 57
        +1
        And the real possibilities of the Persians to compete with the Jewish state on the battlefield. ////
        already fought .. in 2006, when the IDF was shamefully knocked out of southern Lebanon. and just recently, when Iran crumbled the ISIS created by the US and Israel, destroying up to 160 thousand terrorists and 2-3 thousand of their teachers from the US and Israel, NATO countries.
        1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 23 December 2020 13: 37
          0
          Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
          And the real possibilities of the Persians to compete with the Jewish state on the battlefield. ////
          already fought .. in 2006, when the IDF was shamefully knocked out of southern Lebanon. and just recently, when Iran crumbled the ISIS created by the US and Israel, destroying up to 160 thousand terrorists and 2-3 thousand of their teachers from the US and Israel, NATO countries.

          It's clear. Write your wishes in gold letters in the book of complaints and suggestions. They will consider it there. Let's be specific. I have questioned your allegations of 130000 missiles allegedly in possession of Iran. And asked for a link to the source. It's as simple as that. And there is no link. Instead: "We will take terrible revenge with high-precision Iranian weapons." Allah Akbar, of course, but the facts, however, speak of something else: not one, I emphasize not one, Iranian missile hit the territory of our Promised Land. But the pilots of the glorious Hel Aavir repeatedly and very accurately smashed Iranian bases in Syria, along with the Persians attached to them, to the trash. So, what is next? Revenged Iran? For the slain warriors of Allah? Or for Fakhridzade? Investigations into the "shameful flight of Israel" from Lebanon are ridiculous, Cap. Nasrallah is still under the impression and has not climbed out of the bunker for 15 years. The Lebanese border, after the "flight", is the quietest since then.
          What else do you have "guys in backpacks"
          1600000 ISIS members killed? If so, then I can only welcome. Israel together with Egypt beats ISIS in Sinai. If the Russian Federation and Iran do the same in Syria - respect. Although, as always, there is no reference, but if the Islamists are even beaten theoretically, I only approve. Well, and about the fact that Isis are disciples of Israel, again: where did you get this information? Turnouts, addresses, passwords! As the great GDP says.
          1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
            PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 14: 44
            +2
            Israel together with Egypt beats ISIS in Sinai. ///// Israel is unlikely to hit .. Israel and the United States created ISIS to fight Iran. USA and Israel - creators of ISIS



            As part of Operation Good Neighbor, Israel reportedly regularly supplied Syrian rebels with weapons and ammunition to defend themselves against attacks, and provided cash to buy additional weapons. Thanks to Operation Good Neighbor, which was launched in 2016, the Israeli military has provided more than 1524 tons of food, 250 tons of clothing, 947 liters of fuel, 520 generators, medical equipment, JPost writes. A number of recent United Nations reports (see, for example, S / 21/2013, S / 345/2014 or S / 401/2014) contains information that the Israeli Armed Forces (Israel Defense Forces, English IDF) have been in regular contact with members of the Islamic State since May 859. direct evidence of cooperation between IDF representatives and ISIS fighters was obtained. It included the transfer by the Israeli military of weapons, communications equipment, intelligence, as well as the regular provision of combat support, air strikes against units of the Syrian troops. In fact, this is an admission that Israel is a sponsoring country of international terrorism, which Tel Aviv is so fond of accusing Iran of.

            https://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/6467572

            Former Israeli army general Gadi Eisenkot has officially confirmed long-standing claims that Israel is directly supplying weapons to Syrian opposition fighters against the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

            https://aftershock.news/?q=node/830365&full

            Why is Israel not fighting the Isis? In the strangest way, during all these years of active hostilities, ISIS and other structures of the "Salafi International" have never attacked either Israel or the Israelis. "Support for ISIS today allows Israel to solve the problem of neutralizing the influence of Iran and Syria, their last implacable opponents in the Middle East.
      2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
        PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 11: 00
        +2
        could Tehran strike at Jerusalem - it would have struck long ago ////may..Why hasn't Iran destroyed Israel so far? There are only 2 reasons:
        1) Iran can destroy Israel, but then a cry about a new Holocaust will rise to the whole world, which will rally the whole world against Iran. Iran is not going to be like the new Reich. Therefore, Iran will not make such a gift to Israel.
        2) In case of missile strikes on Israel, a lot of Israeli civilians will also die, and given that there are 1.5 million Muslims in Israel, Iran is not going to be their executioner.

        Therefore, Iran has chosen a more complicated, but more effective way of solving the problem to fight the Zionist regime: Iran is actively working on the creation of high-precision weapons, which have already been created, and which will allow Iran to destroy only Israeli military structures and facilities, reducing the military potential of Israel. It will take some time, but it will be worth it.

        Therefore, I would not share the optimism of Israeli lovers who think that Israel is successfully opposing Iran. Iran's strike will not be spontaneous and smeared, but jewelerly accurate and highly effective, simultaneously in many critical places in Israel, which means it will be fatal for Israel. The generals of the IDF do not doubt this either, who are growing anxiety and doubts about Israel's potential. I warn many that Israel will not stand the next war.
    2. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 23 December 2020 15: 21
      +1
      Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
      Iranian proxies already have 130 thousand missiles that will dig through Israel inside and out,

      Not a single pro-Iranian mongrel in Lebanon will dare to attack the Israelis, because after 2006. any Lebanese understands that in this case his country will cease to exist.
    3. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 23 December 2020 18: 30
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      In 2006 it was slightly less, heavily dug The bulk was destroyed in the first hours.
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  17. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 10: 49
    +1
    Quote: Kristallovich
    Authority (even objectively reliable) is not a sufficient basis to unambiguously assert the truth of any of his statements. This is the basis of logic.

    For me, the unambiguous statement of Golda Meir, the testimony of the Israeli nuclear physicist Mordechai Vanunu, given by the RUMO, the opinion of the ex-President of the United States Jimmy Carter (which, definitely, is not based on empty space), joint tests of atomic charges with South Africa, which is confirmed by Soviet intelligence sources, - it is quite enough to conclude that Tel Aviv has nuclear weapons. Moreover, the development and production of the Jericho-3 ICBM by Israel only confirms this fact, because the presence of an intercontinental missile is meaningless without a nuclear warhead.

    It means that Iran is not in vain already has heavy carriers for Yao. American researchers have discovered a secret Iranian base that is developing long-range ballistic missiles.
    http://mignews.com/mobile/article.html?id=240518_72306_39934
  18. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 10: 53
    +2
    Iran currently has no nuclear weapons. I hope it won't. What is not only Israel interested in, but I believe also Russia. Which the Iranian leadership considers a little Satan

    did they personally report this to you?
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 23 December 2020 15: 54
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      Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
      Iran currently has no nuclear weapons. I hope it won't. What is not only Israel interested in, but I believe also Russia. Which the Iranian leadership considers a little Satan

      did they personally report this to you?

      This was convinced by the IAEA commission, which carried out a check on the territory of Iran for the creation of nuclear weapons. There is a corresponding official conclusion. However, for you the facts, as I understand it, do not matter. I asked for links from reliable sources asked to provide. About 130000 thousand missiles. And in response, silence .... Instead, links to notes on the fence, Snowden. There are plenty of such, if I may say "links" on the Internet. In particular, there is a meme with a quote from Vladimir Ilyich Lenin himself ...
      "about the Internet". I have already read on this site the "link" to the media, which claimed that Iran avenged Fahridzade by destroying the "Mossad leader" right in Tel Aviv. It turned out that it was true, only not in Tel Aviv, but in Lod and not the head of the Mossad, but an Arab drug dealer. So I can really provide the official link of the MEN agency about how Israel, together with Egypt, destroys ISIS. At Sinai. You reply ... "It's unlikely ...". The poet wrote about this: "And the pitiful babble of justification." Beggar
      Iran decided to compete with Israel? Given that the entire, all (!) Budget of this state is only a quarter of that of Israel ... What will you fight with? Iranians, or what? However, for Van it will do. In the Yom Kippur War, Israel was suddenly attacked, catching by surprise not only 22 Arab states, but also Cuba, Pakistan, North Korea, even ... Uganda. The Luffwaffe of the GDR, and she pulled herself together. MiGs were driven to Syria. True, they did not dare to join the battle with the Jews. Apparently remembering the sad example of the older brothers on July 30, 1970. The October war was fought by the Arabs and their allies with the full military support of the USSR. So what ?
      According to L.I. Brezhnev: "And again they skied!" I need to give an official link. And here...
      Poor, like a church mouse, the Persians, who even beaten by the Jews in Iraq repeatedly, could not cope. Not serious, right. Especially against the background of the massive normalization of relations with Israel in the Arab world. From Sudan to Bahrain.
      1. zaf Offline zaf
        zaf (zaf) 24 December 2020 16: 24
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        Iran is not Arabs .. Once upon a time, the entire Arab coalition, which helped Iraq, also fought against Iran. On the side of Iraq were even the United States, and then the USSR, which actively supplied Iraq with the latest technology .. Iran was left alone, no one helped him .. but Iran held out, where is your Saddamo's Iraq and where is Iran, which drove amers out of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Afgan.?
  19. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 11: 32
    +1
    Quote: Rogue1812
    Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
    Quote: Kuramori Reika
    Iran should acquire nuclear weapons as soon as possible.

    this has already been done most likely .. because hoping for the honesty of the United States is not worth it ..

    Iran currently has no nuclear weapons. I hope it won't. What is not only Israel interested in, but I believe also Russia. Which the leadership of Iran considers a little Satan.

    when they thought that Iran would need another 20 years to make high-altitude missiles, but no ... in January of this year, Iran turns out to have them for a long time ..
  20. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 23 December 2020 11: 37
    +1
    Quote: Rogue1812
    Has the huge queue of those who sink the submarines of Israel and the United States already lined up? Probably the rest of the many who wish, will have to register in advance ...)

    why queue? they will hit out of turn, as in January the US bases were shocked so that Trump quickly lost his fighting fervor ..
    1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 23 December 2020 18: 33
      +1
      A terrible revenge :))) So they "zhahnuli" on the only base that they smashed several empty sheds, and not even a single seriously wounded one. Wow, how "they zhahnuli" :)))
      1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
        PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 24 December 2020 00: 23
        +1
        Quote: Bindyuzhnik
        Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
        Iranian proxies already have 130 thousand missiles that will dig through Israel inside and out,

        Not a single pro-Iranian mongrel in Lebanon will dare to attack the Israelis, because after 2006. any Lebanese understands that in this case his country will cease to exist.

        Quote: Natan Bruk
        "Leaky dome" except in someone's holey brains, Its efficiency is estimated by independent experts to be about 90%. Di and it is only an element of the system, there are only 4 floors. Hamas has long been not "handicrafts", but serial analogs of Grad And the Iranians, of course, committed a terrible revenge - they demolished several empty sheds at one base, and not even a single seriously wounded one. The Americans were terribly frightened :))) Oh, these victims of propaganda ...

        in the holey dreams of the Zionists, the dome is 90%. Well, you need to calm yourself down.
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  22. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 24 December 2020 00: 09
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    the Gulf never entered the Persian gulf ... he is afraid that it will stay there forever ..
  23. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 24 December 2020 00: 27
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    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
    Iranian proxies already have 130 thousand missiles that will dig through Israel inside and out,

    Not a single pro-Iranian mongrel in Lebanon will dare to attack the Israelis, because after 2006. any Lebanese understands that in this case his country will cease to exist.

    you can check it out on Iran! what are you waiting for? .. afraid to disappear from the face of the earth ..? then the same!
  24. zaf Offline zaf
    zaf (zaf) 24 December 2020 16: 17
    +1
    Iran currently has no nuclear weapons. I hope it won't. What is not only Israel interested in, but I believe also Russia. Which the Iranian leadership considers a little Satan

    did they personally report this to you?

    This was convinced by the IAEA commission, which carried out a check on the territory of Iran for the creation of nuclear weapons. There is a corresponding official conclusion. However, for you the facts, as I understand it, do not matter. I asked for links from reliable sources asked to provide. About 130000 thousand missiles. And in response, silence .... Instead, links to notes on the fence, Snowden. There are plenty of such, if I may say "links" on the Internet. In particular, there is a meme with a quote from Vladimir Ilyich Lenin himself ...

    "about the Internet". I have already read on this site the "link" to the media, which claimed that Iran avenged Fahridzade by destroying the "Mossad leader" right in Tel Aviv. It turned out that it was true, only not in Tel Aviv, but in Lod and not the head of the Mossad, but an Arab drug dealer. So I can really provide the official link of the MEN agency about how Israel, together with Egypt, destroys ISIS. At Sinai. You reply ... "It's unlikely ...". The poet wrote about this: "And the pitiful babble of justification." Beggar
    Iran decided to compete with Israel? Despite the fact that the entire, all (!) Budget of this state is only a quarter of that of Israel ... What will you fight with? Iranians, or what? However, for Van it will do. In the Yom Kippur War, Israel was suddenly attacked, catching by surprise not only 22 Arab states, but also Cuba, Pakistan, North Korea, even ... Uganda. Luffwaffe

    Why is the US still avoiding a war with Iran?
    than the Persians will fight.? with this:
    Iran is one of the most powerful and technologically advanced countries in the world! According to a Global Fire Power (GFP) survey published in the United States, Iran's potential military power surpasses that of the Zionist regime and countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Iran ranks 7th in Asia in the defense sector thanks to many achievements, the most important of which relate to such areas as "building domestic advanced drones", satellites, "building local frigates, tanks and helicopters", "building various types of military vehicles "," Missiles (cruise and ballistic) "," production of light military weapons "," the seventh missile power in the world "," one of two countries in the world producing supercavitating torpedoes.

    Iran today. A playlist of visual videos about the current state of the Iranian economy and military-industrial complex



    Why is the US still avoiding a war with Iran?
  25. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 24 December 2020 17: 06
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    Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
    Quote: Rogue1812
    Has the huge queue of those who sink the submarines of Israel and the United States already lined up? Probably the rest of the many who wish, will have to register in advance ...)

    why queue? they will hit out of turn, as in January the US bases were shocked so that Trump quickly lost his fighting fervor ..

    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    Dear, you just write from some other reality. Here, in our world, as it was decided in Jerusalem, it will be so: the Persians will not see their nuclear weapons or high-precision weapons. Your naive dreams of Iran's victory over Israel will remain so dreams, and if you hear that the Ayatollah regime still decided to attack Israel, you can immediately start drinking for the peace of the souls of Shiite obscurantists and their successful resettlement in the arms of the houris. And we in Israel will drink to life and another victory of our army over the enemy. drinks

    In Jerusalem, nothing is decided from the word at all, because Iran began its nuclear program from 56g .. a whole complex of economy with research institutes has been created .. Iran also managed to create a developed missile program, electromagnetic weapons, the space sphere, mechanical engineering, machine tool construction, etc. cyber research ..
    Wake up, you are stuck in the past .., .. if Jerusalem decided something, then this was not all ..
  26. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 December 2020 00: 42
    +1
    Quote: Natan Bruk
    A terrible revenge :))) So they "zhahnuli" on the only base that they smashed several empty sheds, and not even a single seriously wounded one. Wow, how "they zhahnuli" :)))

    They snapped a little, but that was enough for Trump to set his tail between his legs and forget about his formidable promises to bomb Iran if he responds to the death of Suduleimani .. Iran replied so that the base requested 6 medical aircraft! What suddenly? but it was necessary to quickly remove the remains of dead soldiers and a bunch of wounded ... The planes flew with turned off transponders .. 4vertolts and 2samolts of the US Air Force were also destroyed .., the CIA drone control center ... so the Iranian response quickly cooled hot heads in the Pentagon and Israel ..

    Quote: Rogue1812
    It would be wrong to rigidly reduce information to a lane: will - will not. In the context of what is happening in the BV and around Iran, the consequences of the US elections, the post-Karabakh conflict, there can be several versions. And each has a right to exist. In my opinion, the publication is quite believable. And that's why:
    1. After the elimination of Fakhridzadeh, Iran wants to warn about the consequences in case of retaliation.
    2. The moment to strike is optimal. The Russian Federation is associated with spending in Crimea, Donbass, confrontation with Ukraine, involvement in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, in the Syrian confrontation. Not until Iran. And the weakening of Iran plays into the hands of Russia. Although in words, if something happens, they will call for world peace.
    3. The coming of the Democrats to power means a return to a policy of compromise. Why shouldn't the outgoing administration drive a powerful wedge into it by striking Iran?
    4.Iran has no allies, the defense budget is de facto scanty - $ 13 billion, and in relation to the total budget ($ 36 billion)
    - giant. Israel, for example: the defense budget is 20.5 billion, the total is 150 billion. The US defense budget is 700 billion, the RF is 70 billion. What would not hit something?
    5. Iran in zugwang, where he drove himself. There are no allies. From the word at all. China? But any union presupposes some kind of agreement, obligation. This is not the case in Sino-Iranian relations.

    So it is possible. A reason is needed. But this is a technical matter. History remembers Gavrila Principa, Gleiwitz, the mining incident, the explosion of the cruiser Maine ...
    The version about warning Iran not to make sudden movements is also possible. And any others: only with varying degrees of probability. The situation is favorable.

    Well, - thought Alice, - the pigs are suppressed, then things will go more fun

    (L. Carroll)

    Submarines will bring the Strait of Hormuz and events to life. We are waiting for Iran's reaction. On her actually and counting, I suppose.

    They will not revive anything there .. They will be quickly drowned by the Persians, if they want .. from Iranian torpedo missiles. hoot no escape .. these are cavitating torpedoes
  27. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 December 2020 10: 28
    +2
    Quote: Natan Bruk
    The Americans were terribly scared :))) Oh, these victims of propaganda ...

    Yeah yeah., When rockets with a warhead of 300kg fly into hangars, evaporating even metal, equipment, drones, are they so delicate that they do not cause serious harm to people, because they are Americans? Ahahaha, Iran has cool missiles!
    It's just not clear why the base requested 6 flights of medical assistance? Amers shell-shocked to the beaches of Florida to take?
  28. Vasily Terkin_4 Offline Vasily Terkin_4
    Vasily Terkin_4 (Vasily Terkin) 25 December 2020 12: 13
    0
    Everything is as simple as a cucumber. Iran (Persians) has been Israel's adversary since the Old Testament times. They (the Persians) have not yet answered for the destruction of the 1st Jerusalem Temple (in the person of King Nebuchadnezzar). For example, Palmyra, from which Nebuchadnezzar's archers were at the capture of Jerusalem, suffered greatly from the current barmaley from "Igil". But the Russians climbed into Syria and broke it off again. Syria resisted, Palmyra was partially saved ... So, we will wait for new archers from Palmyra ... :-))