How the country was sold: a photo of the technical documentation for the Su-27 transferred to China appeared on the web


The main broadcaster in mainland China, China Central Television (CCTV), showed the volumes transmitted by Russia in the 90s technical documentation for the Su-27. This was allegedly done as part of an agreement between Moscow and Beijing on the assembly in China under license of these fourth-generation multipurpose heavy fighters from kits supplied from Russia.


It should be noted that an interesting shot that appeared after that on the Web sheds light on some features of that historical period. Social media users called it documentary evidence of how officials were literally selling the country at the time. They argue that, in fact, the technology was transferred to the Su-27 in its entirety. Nobody bothered which "piece of paper" should be given and which should not. Therefore, we gave everything "so as not to violate reporting."

This is how China got its modern combat aviation. Moreover, the Chinese do not hide this and, as if in mockery, show the room filled with boxes with documents.

However, some Russian users believe that only assembly documentation is shown in the frame, and the total amount of “papers” is much larger. They even cite a Soviet joke that "an aircraft is ready for certification when the weight of the documentation is equal to its own." However, from one shot, we cannot judge the true dimensions of the room in which all this took place.

We remind you that in 1996 an agreement was signed to assemble 200 Su-27SK and Su-27UBK. As of 2008, 105 aircraft were manufactured. The assembly of subsequent batches was not carried out, the Chinese received the main thing - the documents, so the contract was never fully implemented. As of 2016, the PLA Air Force had 43 Su-27SK and 32 Su-27UBKs.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 19 December 2020 15: 37
    +3
    But no one writes that someone was responsible for this betrayal.

    All untouchables, unlike China too
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 19 December 2020 16: 37
      +2
      There is no need to perceive provocative stuffing, there are strategic relations and a policy against the United States, that Russia alone cannot withstand global pressure ... Correct actions with the transfer of the Su-27 to China, thereby increased the combat power of the Chinese Air Force, that in the future, clashes between the US and China are inevitable and the PRC will certainly become OUR ally ... Strategic thinking and a strategic move, but pro-American enemies are procrastinating today. provocative articles ...
      1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 19 December 2020 17: 44
        0
        there is a strategic relationship

        What are the strategic relationships in the 90s?
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 19 December 2020 18: 33
          -1
          You probably don't know the strategic plans that are being created for twenty or more years ...
          1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
            Kristallovich (Ruslan) 19 December 2020 19: 26
            +2
            In the 90s, there were no plans to create a strategic relationship with China. In general, we have hardly worked with China, in any direction. Unless they sold weapons and technical documentation there. Bora was not up to it. He derbanized the country.
            1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 19 December 2020 21: 40
              +3
              I repeat, strategic plans are created by the relevant services, that EBN behaved this way, this does not mean that they did not read and did not understand. This is done by the state structures of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the Foreign Intelligence Service and others, regardless of those sitting in the Kremlin, this is the state SYSTEM. services and their work, further such transactions are carried out ... (I hope you understood) ..,
              1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
                Kristallovich (Ruslan) 19 December 2020 21: 48
                -1
                That is, you are suggesting that I base myself on your conclusions when forming my own opinion? You must understand that your statement about the Foreign Ministry, Defense Ministry and Foreign Intelligence Service is unsubstantiated guesses, while I am based on the banal absence of joint Russian-Chinese projects. Almost nowhere. From 1991 to 2000 nothing was signed. No interaction between the Ministry of Defense. No projects of an economic nature. As for the Foreign Ministry, I will remind you that the president determines the foreign policy of the state. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not independent in this sense. The SVR has nothing to do with it. If there is no presidential sanction to deepen contacts, nothing will happen.
                1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 19 December 2020 21: 50
                  +2
                  Follow the tendencies towards cooperation with the PRC further, so they were predicted and PREPARED in advance. Turn your head on ...
                  1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
                    Kristallovich (Ruslan) 19 December 2020 21: 55
                    -1
                    This I would recommend you to include the head. It's about the 90s. Further trends are already the times of Vladimir Putin's rule. It was with the arrival of GDP that interaction in all areas with China began. There was nothing before him. Read the history of Russian-Chinese relations before arguing.
                    1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                      Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 20 December 2020 10: 12
                      0
                      All true.
                      Chinese diplomats, according to recollections, sometimes refused to shake hands with EBN.
                      True, even with GDP, the Chinese and Indians repeatedly left the projects. Since their money was stolen, without result.
                  2. onstar9 Offline onstar9
                    onstar9 (Aslan Tsoutiev) 20 December 2020 20: 33
                    0
                    You have a strange love for China and other communist regimes. Little did they bring you grief or what? Or are you a communist fanatic?
                2. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
                  ODRAP (Alexey) 20 December 2020 22: 28
                  0
                  From the point of view of China, renegades settled in the USSR, betraying the ideas of Lenin-Stalin.
              2. Bitter Offline Bitter
                Bitter (Gleb) 20 December 2020 19: 36
                +1
                ... state structures of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Defense, Foreign Intelligence Service and others, ...

                They were looking for "hidden reserves" to generate income. There were golden times, those who had the opportunity to sell Soviet property or secrets for expensive, were bathed in money. And today they are often respected people. I wonder on what promising secret plan the Americans took possession of some Soviet ships of the Navy, which are still in their ranks?

                ... regardless of those sitting in the Kremlin, it is the state SYSTEM that works. services and their work, further such transactions are carried out ...... (I hope you understood) ..,

                Boris Nikolaevich earned an ulcer, ruined his nerves, drank decalitres of vodka and broke more than one telephone, only to break and destroy these very state systems. Even in the same wars of "independence" he arranged sudden surrenders of everyone and everything, sometimes knocking out, literally and figuratively, the best people from the cage.
                This figure is an absolute evil, they need to scare children. yes
          2. Nick Offline Nick
            Nick (Nikolai) 20 December 2020 21: 17
            0
            Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
            You probably don't know the strategic plans that are being created for twenty or more years ...

            Just a friend is not familiar with the concept of a stratagem bully hi
  2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 19 December 2020 21: 01
    -2
    And I have no words, one mat!

    .... but in natural selection
    Putin is better anyway ...

    Now fans will scream that the article is provocative, Putin is "white and fluffy". This is all EBN, so Putin built the center for him !? We will not be like China! It is their traitors and thieves who are executed, but we have democracy! Government, deputies, officials with dual citizenship. This is not a sale of the Motherland, this is just a business!
    They talked about it before, now they show it. Is this just business ?!
    1. chemyurij Online chemyurij
      chemyurij (chemyurij) 19 December 2020 22: 18
      +4
      Putin also gave an atomic bomb to China? During the Soviet period, so much was transferred to China and built - in your opinion, a betrayal, why do you not say a word about this? And according to the article - this is simply unconfirmed information, there is a link to the ten-year period of the 90s and boxes with waste paper of unknown content and that's it. You are mistaken for krezi who can stick any information in the nose, you enthusiastically confirm this their opinion about you. Much has been transferred to China, but I doubt that the documentation for the Su 27 was accepted from them and stored in a room similar to a spare parts warehouse, and not an archive.
      1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
        steelmaker 19 December 2020 22: 30
        0
        When they write about the atomic bomb, then I will write too. And I can jump to other topics too. Do you also want to show the documentation of how Putin handed over Domansky Island to the Chinese? Is Medvedev of Norway part of the sea zone? Or take a word? In your opinion, this is a betrayal, why don't you have a word about it?
        1. chemyurij Online chemyurij
          chemyurij (chemyurij) 19 December 2020 22: 53
          +3
          At your word? No! These are treaties and they resolve and consolidate the controversial aspects of relations between states once and for all, or you need a constant state of claims between us and them. Probably it could have been solved with a different result, but many years of negotiations led to these, which at the time of signing everyone were satisfied, do not give any other examples regarding my answer to these words of yours (Damansky, Norway).

          Or believe the word?

          How can you not, how can you, you yourself did it by distorting the facts, accusing Putin of what he had nothing to do with and all those who have not said anything yet, but could object to you.
        2. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 20 December 2020 07: 24
          +2
          Do you also need to show the documentation of how Putin handed over the Domansky Island to the Chinese? Is Medvedev of Norway part of the sea zone? Or take a word? In your opinion, this is a betrayal, why don't you have a word about it?

          As a specialist in the Soviet period, do not tell by chance where Finland and Poland and the territory of northeastern China have gone after 1917 request Are they dry? smile And how would you characterize this fact? And then we'll discuss Damansky with Norway. By the way, the tsar did not sign the agreement on Spitsbergen, and not even Yeltsin and Chubais ... winked

    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 20 December 2020 07: 11
      +2
      Now the fans will scream that the article is provocative, Putin is "white and fluffy". This is all EBN, so Putin built the center for him !?

      You will not believe smile but ... at this very time ...

      In 1996, he and his family moved to Moscow, where his political career began.

      http://putin.kremlin.ru/bio/page-4
      Something like this repeat laughing

      Earlier they talked about it, now they show it.

      Does it annoy you that this is shown? Don't you think it's worth it?