Ukrainian expert: NATO has nothing to oppose to the domination of the Russian Federation in the Black Sea


The North Atlantic Alliance has nothing to oppose to Russia in the Black Sea. The dominance of the Russian fleet in the region is so high that if Moscow decides to blockade the Ukrainian coast, no one can stop it. This opinion is shared by a local military expert, deputy director of the CIAKR (Center for Army Research, Conversion and Disarmament) for international affairs Mikhail Samus.


The Russian Federation completely dominates the Black Sea. Against this background, the European Union and NATO look helpless, they simply have nothing to answer

- the political scientist considers.

Samus believes that in just an hour the Russian fleet will be able to blockade the port of Odessa, thereby cutting off Ukraine from access to the World Ocean, and no one can do anything about it.

The expert draws an analogy with the incident two years ago in the Kerch Strait, and points out the lack of reaction to Russia's actions by NATO and other friends of Ukraine.

The fundamental problem is that we still do not have our own combat fleet to somehow compete with Russia in the Black Sea region.

- summed up the political scientist.
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  1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 18 December 2020 12: 14
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    Ukrainian expert: NATO has nothing to oppose to the domination of the Russian Federation in the Black Sea

    The question is different. Why oppose? Russia does not threaten anyone. And actually there is nothing. The entire emphasis of defense on the Black Sea is being built on aircraft in the Crimea and on ground complexes of anti-ship missiles
  2. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
    ODRAP (Alexey) 18 December 2020 16: 37
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    Samusya has not been heard for five years, but here, here!
    Bury the stewardess.

    What, interestingly, can the Black Sea Fleet block Odessa? Will you pull the chains? So one hour is not enough.
    And for hacking, those toys that were brought to Romania from Rammstein just now are enough. When they shot a square, and descended into the PPD.
    About aviation and at least one, Arlie, from the strait, I don't even remember.
    1. bear040 Offline bear040
      bear040 18 December 2020 20: 04
      +5
      So then to Romania, and not to you, and then nobody gave these toys to the Romanians, and even more so they will not give you. Arly Berkov is not and never will be in the Ukrainian fleet, and the Russian Federation has something to drown, if that ...
      1. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
        ODRAP (Alexey) 18 December 2020 21: 04
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        And no difference, the distance is one. And even better, from Romania, flights are not terrible. bully
        There will never be, never ... and there will be no Islands ... and Neptune will never take off, never ... soldier
        Talk about blocking Odessa, finally.
        Is there anything to block?
        1. bear040 Offline bear040
          bear040 18 December 2020 21: 08
          +5
          Well, the Islands decommissioned from the US Coast Guard due to the fatigue of the metal of their hulls are terrible only for their own crews. As for the Romanians, they would rather take Bessarabia and Bukavina from the half-dead UKROPs than risk fighting with the Russian Federation, having a fleet of only two antediluvian frigates, without air defense systems, with antediluvian anti-ship missiles Termit. Romanian Marisesti can only be targets for the Russian Black Sea Fleet, no more
          1. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
            ODRAP (Alexey) 18 December 2020 21: 13
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            Exactly!
            Islands cracked, along the waterline itself, like a takyr in Crimea!
            Not Bessarabia and Bukovina, but Transnistria. Geography skipped, confess?
            Tellingly, Romanians have no territorial claims to Ukraine. The Serpentine shelf was divided peacefully, and peace-friendship-chewing gum.
            Who told you that they want to fight?
            Do not want. But, obstruction of shipping, will not be tolerated, neither they nor the partners.
            Answer the question: how are you going to block Odessa? You can name it.
            1. bear040 Offline bear040
              bear040 18 December 2020 21: 19
              +6
              Well, you yourself believe in it ?! Either yours in Kiev go crazy with the idea of ​​issuing Romanian passports to their people on the territory of Romania still controlled by Ukraine. You could not keep the Serpentine shelf by force, you hoped for the western court, but it merged you ... and will merge it more than once. Taking into account the Romanian fleet, one corvette of type 20380 will be enough, by the way, next year the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation will receive just such a corvette ... And now 6 Varshavyanka-type missile submarines will be quite suitable for this, at which you can shoot from the shore with your Alder and Neptune with the same success what to kick your alcoholic pastry chef and hope that his screams in Moscow will be scared
              1. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
                ODRAP (Alexey) 18 December 2020 21: 34
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                Allowed!
                Passports (Hungarian, by the way, you confused) we do not care at all, a bunch of water. Cut off the smuggling, they'll die of hunger.
                Exactly. Stopudovo is right! We didn’t hold it by force. Although they could. Everything according to the law, moreover, international arbitration
                Dispersed civilized, and now we and they are respected in the world and shake hands. Unlike the gopniks.
                By the way, we just divided the shelf, and did not give it all away. Did not know? Well, they won't tell you.
                And the court, more precisely, arbitration, merges you. How many times already? And it will continue to drain. Look: Naftogaz, Poland, Yukos, soon again Naftogaz ...
                Have you ever won something?
                By ships. Get it or not, 380, not a fact. There are no engines yet, in the know? In addition, he alone will not cover anything.
                Submarines. All six will not be collected, they are found at once, they are also drowned easily. They are defenseless against PLO aircraft.
                For aviation, do not even start, I am well versed in this.
                1. bear040 Offline bear040
                  bear040 18 December 2020 21: 41
                  +5
                  I did not confuse, passports are distributed both Romanian and Hungarian and Polish and only to their own, not yours. Well, of course, they divided ... Romanians got about 90%, but they left you a little ... laughing At 20380 there are domestic diesel engines DDA-12000, so there are engines. This year, the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation, the third in a row, will receive such a corvette. Well, the transit through Ukraine is soon Chu-Chu, one way or another. There is Nord Stream -1, and the EU is switching to hydrogen fuel, so your rusty Soviet pipe is needed like a goat's guitar. Varshavyanka women have a klikuhu - Black Hole, so they are not detected well, Ukraine has nothing worse than rusty Be-12s, and flying on them to where the Su-35s fly is a sure way to commit suicide
                2. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 20 December 2020 05: 03
                  +4
                  Dispersed civilized, and now we and they are respected in the world and shake hands. Unlike the gopniks.
                  By the way, we just divided the shelf, and did not give it all away. Did not know? Well, they won't tell you.

                  Excerpts from a source that can hardly be called Kremlin propaganda. Browse the link at your leisure.

                  But why, in fact, our state was put before the necessary
                  court proceedings and also in such a way that
                  be able to defend against such a prospect
                  at least by postponing
                  niya legal proceedings until better times? Perhaps G. Udovenko had
                  absolute confidence in victory in the UN Court. Then it is not clear what this
                  confidence is based, because if there were no guarantees of victory in the UN Court (and
                  how they could be in such an ambiguous situation is unclear), indicated
                  actions were taken by the relevant officials in order to inflict
                  damage to territorial integrity and economic security of the state
                  CTBA
                  .......
                  Incomprehensible activity in the matter of initiating a delimitation case in
                  The International Court of Justice and the passive position and half-measures to implement
                  direct protection of the interests of the state led, as we see, to
                  negative results before the Court
                  .....
                  So, despite the official position regarding the win of Ukraine
                  in the case with Romania, the authors do not think so and agree with D. Denkov and
                  V. Selik, who note: “One way or another, Ukraine lost in this
                  dispute
                  ... And the only, as if positive moment, that Serpentine became
                  irrevocably a Ukrainian island, is not a positive. For Ukraine act
                  lost such valuable hydrocarbon reserves
                  ......
                  In this way, the economy of our state is already affected by the last
                  the consequences of a rather controversial decision of the International Court of Justice on this
                  business.

                  And the court, more precisely, arbitration, merges you. How many times already? And it will continue to drain. Look: Naftogaz, Poland, Yukos, soon again Naftogaz ...
                  Have you ever won something?

                  With the initiative you hi

                  The Supreme Court of the British Virgin Islands, at the request of VEB.RF, arrested the shares of the shipping company Fishing Company SA owned by Ukraine.

                  https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4614227

                  By ships. Get it or not, 380, not a fact. There are no engines yet, in the know? In addition, he alone will not cover anything.

                  Corvette Zealous, transfer to the Black Sea Fleet is scheduled for 2021. Yes, and without him there will be enough strength.



                  Submarines. All six will not be collected, they are found at once, they are also drowned easily. They are defenseless against PLO aircraft.

                  Why is there six? 1-2 is enough. As for the PLO ... Is it there? You got 12 Be-14 helicopters and 14 Mi-3 anti-submarine helicopters. "Seagulls" as far as I remember all are not flying. Have they been repaired? Which of the helicopters is still flying is a mystery.

                  For aviation, do not even start, I am well versed in this.

                  When you start planning a "general battle", I recommend that you take into account the presence of combat aircraft in Russia. hi
                  1. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
                    ODRAP (Alexey) 21 December 2020 00: 21
                    0
                    Did you forget to bring the link? Bare text.
                    Yes, a serious loss. Did not know. I grieve. Can you tell me how much the named company costs? As the name suggests, something fishing. A scow full of feces? With the initiative you ...

                    Zealous. The key word is "planned".
                    Forces, you name it, a sign of a sign? I will find the performance characteristics myself.
                    Enough for what? For the blockade of Odessa?
                    14 Be, at least half of it flies ... own motors, no problem ...
                    Three is enough to detect 1-2pl, and not release. Yes, just broadcast the coordinates and go around. Besides, who said that we will be the only one to release?

                    We will definitely start planning. After the Greek calendars, I think.
                    About Russian aviation, I read everything I find.
                    It's a pity that there is so little about the sea ... crying
                    Secret, tunnels?
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 21 December 2020 02: 24
                      +2
                      Did you forget to bring the link? Bare text.

                      I have not forgotten, probably not copied correctly. In principle, it does not matter, I still have it, read to your health. If you wish, you can find a website on the Internet yourself.

                      https://yadi.sk/i/ofcEYG_GNoDKlQ

                      Yes, a serious loss. Did not know. I grieve. Can you tell me how much the named company costs? As the name suggests, something fishing. A scow full of feces? With the initiative you ...

                      Your requests are constantly growing .. First, you are interested in winning at least something. I gave you an example. Now give you the value of the company. That you have all the scows with feces might not have said, everything is already in the know. Who is to blame that you are hicks?
                      Well, okay ... how is it with a black sheep, even a tuft of wool smile

                      Zealous. The key word is "planned".

                      Have you watched the video with your eyes closed? The ship was launched long ago. Do you think the engine will be installed later?

                      Forces, you name it, a sign of a sign? I will find the performance characteristics myself.

                      It is not difficult, you type in the search engine - the list of the Black Sea Fleet. Beggar servants do not have, get used to it winked

                      Enough for what? For the blockade of Odessa?

                      Why Odessa? Your entire coastline.

                      14 Be, at least half of it flies ... own motors, no problem ...
                      Three is enough to detect 1-2pl, and not release. Yes, just broadcast the coordinates and go around.

                      Are they flying exactly? We were still flying in 2001. Now I'm not sure, nothing fresh about the bottom came across.



                      To detect and not to hold .... Do not tell, without cover they will not be able to stay in the air for a long time. I will not say who has the overwhelming advantage in the air in this region. Why would you pour salt on your wounds?

                      Besides, who said that we will be the only one to release?

                      Who? Moldova, Bulgaria? Romania? Who needs you? There are no fools to fight for you.