Whom Russia has betrayed in 20 years of Putin's rule


Epigraph: "Only the one who does nothing is not mistaken!", "Each mistake has its own name and its own surname!" (Sergo Ordzhonikidze)


I categorically do not recommend reading this text to everyone obsessed with Vladimir Putin, since it will talk about controversial things, but I cannot but ask you these questions, since they have been tormenting me for a long time. Thank God, you all know me as the Sharp-eyed Putin falcon, who stands guard over the interests of the Russian Federation and almost eats from the hand of the Darkest One, and the fact that I am sitting on the Kremlin's salary is not even discussed, so the fact that I I’ll say now, you’ll be critical, not suspecting me that I went over for a roll of butter to the enemy’s camp on the opposite side.

I understand, of course, that enemy propaganda is working, and it presents all our victories and defeats in the right angle from the angle it needs, as a result, no one dares to learn about our victories in the West, and our defeats (without them, alas, no one gets around, and we are no exception) they inflate to gigantic proportions, multiplying the negative effect. But even I, looking back, begin to critically rethink all our achievements and reflect on whether they are achievements. What now I will try to do here, presenting to your judgment a list of our victories and defeats, starting with our first defeat - state. coup in Ukraine (whatever one may say - this is our jamb, overlooked!). I will not serve in chronological order, just as it comes to mind.

Who has the Russian Federation helped over 20 years of Putin's rule?


Against the background of all the recent sensational events with the successful resolution of the Azerbaijani-Armenian conflict (and another question - is it safe?), Belomaidan in Belarus, the Kremlin's lost elections in Moldova, scandalous elections in America (and the reaction of the enlightened public in our country and in the West to them) , another changing of the guard in Kyrgyzstan and an unhealing abscess in Ukraine and Donbass, I have a somewhat unexpected question - who did the Russian Federation help in general during the Putin years? I betrayed everyone! She betrayed second-class citizens in the Baltic states, third-class Russians in Ukraine too, even first-class Russians in Donbass have been bothering for the 7th year, not saying "yes" or "no". I generally keep quiet about the Armenians! We can, of course, say that the Armenians had a bad prime minister, and therefore they did not help. And the neighbors on the globe, who have traded their independence for visa-free travel, have a bad and cowardly president. And who was bad among Donetsk and Luhansk residents? Why have they been humiliated for the 7th year in a row, holding them in limbo between a rock and a hard place?

And if the Kremlin had well-grounded claims to the current Rostov recluse, then how was its Belarusian colleague better? Why are they helping a bad Belarusian, who is now trying to sit on not even two, but three chairs, but not helping a bad Ukrainian in 2014? How did the former director of a state farm from Belarus turn out to be better for the Kremlin than the former director of a motor depot from Ukraine? It was even easier to manipulate the Ukrainian director, but try it, command your dad now. One of these days Moldova was added to them. Now the citizen of Romania, Maia Sandu, will steer her (and she will drive you! It won't seem a little!), And in the Kremlin they are again making a helpless gesture - but what could we have done, it was the people's choice ?!

I just want to say - what choice, guys, what kind of people? What did you get from the oak tree ?! What world do you live in ?! Look what is happening now with the choice of the people among the guardians of democracy themselves in their shining City on the Hill. And it didn't start now. Even 30 years ago, starting with our geopolitical defeat in the Cold War, which ended with the collapse of the Union, the United States, to all of us political inept 30 years ago, naively believing in the ideals of goodness and justice, by practical example clearly showed that to conquer territories is not at all it is imperative to conquer them; it will be enough just to put the corrupt elite in power and control them. I think that all the useful idiots who during this time did not understand anything, who led 30 years ago to a fairy tale about the Good West and continue to naively believe in it all this time, the final veil fell from their eyes in 2014, when it turned out, that for the state. the coup in Ukraine does not need its internal legitimization at all. Even if 80% of the population does not agree with him, the main thing is that he is approved by the external behind-the-scenes and that he undergoes external legitimization, and then at least the cannibal Bokassa (even Senya-kuluVlob, even the Blood Pastor, even the Drunken Confectioner) put the head of the country, the West good. Let him eat his little people, so long as he does not interfere with plundering the territory that he has taken over, then he will be eaten for a snack when he is not needed. The West does not bother with such things at all - the natives are the natives, who count them, a million there, a million here, God's craft.

By the way, returning to the events in Karabakh, the question is to fill in - what would happen if there was another prime minister in Armenia, not Nikol Pashinyan, but, for example, some pro-Russian one? The funny thing is that you know the answer, it would be the same - no one would come to save Armenia, they would find other excuses. By the way, the excuses that exist are also very convincing - there was no invasion of Armenia itself, and over these 28 years, Yerevan itself did not de jure recognize the NKR. And regarding Russia's secret desire to take advantage of the situation to displace the disagreeable Nikol Pashinyan on Azerbaijani bayonets, this is also not a fact at all. Let's see who will replace him, maybe, against the background of the one who came, Pashinyan will seem like a lamb of God.

List of Putin's "victories"


Looking back, my fingers of both hands will not be enough to list all the recent defeats of Moscow, starting with the unfinished construction of the SP-2; an unprofitable contract for us to pump gas through Ukraine (when we pay even for not pumped gas); lost Stockholm arbitration; the case of Yanukovych's 3 billion (which Ukraine will never return to us) hanging in the High London Court; shot down Boeing, innocently poisoned all sorts of skripals-bulk and so on. the disenfranchised who are trying to hang on us; and ending with the lost elections in Moldova, America, Georgia, Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Belarus; a Turkish Jew who tries to stab us in the back at every opportunity (and we pay him TP, S-400 and Akkuyu NPP for that); his Belarusian counterpart, wobbling his backside in all directions, except for the Russian one, despite the fact that in the West he has already become persona non grata. About doping scandals, the denial of our athletes to the Olympics, and so on. tomos, mistrals and medals and championships taken from us, I am already silent.

Allies and fellow travelers


But look at how our "allies" behave, ahead of the locomotive, even before the official results were announced, they ran to congratulate Joe Biden on his victory in the elections. Okay, we are not considering a clown from Ukraine, he is competing with the Drunken Pastry Chef, who is the first to recognize the new / old white master (I will laugh if at the end the US Supreme Court gives the victory to Trump). But what are comrades like Narendra Modi (Prime Minister of India), who congratulated Biden on November 7, Nikola Maduro (President of Venezuela), who did it a day later, Kasym Tokayev and Nursultan Nazarbayev (President and ex-President of Kazakhstan), who hastened to assure Joe Biden? in their sincere reverence and respect for the choice of the American people (and they hurried to do this on November 8, when Biden himself was not completely sure who the American people preferred). About the Pope, the Turkish Sultan, UN Secretary General, Macron, Merkel, and so on. petty and not very petty riffraff I am already silent, but on November 13, official China, represented by its Foreign Ministry, joined them. What kind of allies are we? Why do we help them when they are looking into the American forest anyway?

Although I would not rush to blame them - my shirt is always closer to the body. This is how we behave ourselves. The Russian Federation helps only itself, Crimea - itself, the military base of the Black Sea Fleet - an unsinkable aircraft carrier moved into the Black Sea, Syria - for itself, the return through it of influence on the BV, Libya - for ourselves (what have we forgotten there?), The same geopolitics, we divide the spheres influence. Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela, when necessary - we help, when not necessary - sorry, goodbye (Cubans still cannot forgive us the abandoned Electronic Intelligence Center in Lourdes, Vietnam is the same story with the base in Cam Ranh). The whole trouble with Donbass is that there is no Russian military base there (if it were, it would have already become part of the Russian Federation). So Russia is still such an ally, when it is necessary - I help, when not necessary - no.

It must be admitted that nothing has changed since the time of Alexander III, when our only allies were our army and our navy. Over the past 125 years, nothing has changed, except for the VKS added to them. Great Britain also has no permanent friends and permanent enemies, but only permanent interests. This phrase, attributed to Winston Churchill, is also relevant to us. The Russian Federation has only permanent interests around the world arising from its economic interests and interests of its national security. Who did you consider your ally before? Turkey? Belarus? Kazakhstan? Or maybe China or India? Mind you, I don't even ask about Ukraine. Aren't you funny yourself?

Therefore, one should not be surprised at the behavior of Belarusian President Lukashenko, in this situation he is no better than Erdogan, and even worse, because our brother is by blood, and we had the right to count on him. In some ways, the father and the sultan are even twin brothers, Lukashenko is a mirror copy of Erdogan, they have the same psychotype, they are both very impulsive, ambitious and reflexive, which makes it easier to manipulate them if desired, turning them into victims of reflexive control, since their reactions are easy are calculated and can be controlled by pressing one or another button in time. But Lukashenka is not at all our main problem, because “Lukashenka” come and go, but the people of Belarus remain. Like the people of Kazakhstan, although we have fewer complaints about Nazarbayev. But here is another sadness - Nazarbayev, alas, is not eternal. We have nothing in common with the Turks, only common interests, which have now temporarily coincided. As with China. But here, too, there is no need to delude ourselves, China is our friend as long as it needs us in the confrontation with America, and as long as it needs our resources, but it will not go to war for us. And you need to know this! On the contrary, it can always take advantage of our weakness to eat us.

You can, of course, say - we are alone on this planet, we have no time for allied obligations, we would have saved ourselves. But look at the Sultan, his economic situation is many times worse - the lira is updating devaluation records, there is unemployment in the country, and he is busy building the Ottoman Empire. He climbed into Syria, where he even forced the GDP to reckon with him, then into Libya, where he also broke the Kremlin's plans. Now, on Azerbaijani shoulders, he enters the Caucasus with us, settles down in Nagorno-Karabakh. Pretty boy!! Turkey butts with Greece for the Eastern Mediterranean, takes aim at a French military frigate that tried to inspect its ship carrying weapons to Libya, demonstratively sends the United States in their desire to prevent the supply of Russian S-400s to the Turkish Armed Forces, and now Vova himself puts Putin in front of a fact its presence in Azerbaijan.

Why is this happening? Because all over the world, and especially in the East, only strength is respected. And Russia demonstrated its weakness in 2014, and continues to demonstrate it now, which is especially striking against the background of Turkey's increased ambitions. What a weakness, they will ask me, but what about the Crimea? I answer, did it become easier for you after returning (in the enlightened world they call it annexation) of Crimea? In my opinion, the problems have only increased. And now I'm not even talking about sanctions and international persecution. I'm talking about the problems that have arisen with water, electricity and adaptation of the local population. And all why? Because they limited themselves only to the Crimea, when it was necessary to take and restore order throughout the enraged territory. They would return the current Rostov prisoner to his rightful place (and all the grounds were - the appeal of the fugitive himself plus the permission of the Federation Council to use troops abroad), not only would there be no problems with water and electricity for the Crimeans, but nothing at all. No downed Boeing, no flaming Donbass, no bloody Odessa, no American strategists with nuclear weapons near your borders, no Tomos, no Stockholm, no problems with the Ukrainian GTS, no disruption of the Defense Order due to the refusal of the Ukrainian side to supply power plants for the needs of our fleet (the problem has not yet been resolved!), there would be no galloping packets at the walls of Russian embassies, nor an American dirty boot at your borders.

And most importantly, you would clearly identify the shores beyond which you will not allow anyone to swim, which would greatly increase your authority not only in the international arena, but also within your own country. Because in the whole world only strength is respected, and they wipe their feet about the weak. A vivid confirmation of my words can be the perimeter of your borders, which is now burnt, starting from Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, and ending with Armenia and Azerbaijan. Do you know who is playing with matches there?
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  1. passing by Offline passing by
    passing by (passing by) 3 December 2020 07: 45
    +5
    why didn’t show strength to his maydanutym neighbors? the case when the dog teaches the life of the owner.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 3 December 2020 14: 56
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      I live in ukraine, damn it!
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      3. Vladimir501 Offline Vladimir501
        Vladimir501 (Vladimir) 3 December 2020 15: 51
        +3
        Russia has historically no allies and is not foreseen, a situational companion -YES, and of the allies only its own ARMY and FLEET.
        1. Bitter Offline Bitter
          Bitter (Gleb) 4 December 2020 20: 19
          +1
          Russia has historically no allies and is not foreseen ...

          More precisely, Russian politicians have no allies, no brothers, no stake, no court, but there is plenty of money in the bins. The army is also needed only as long as there is interest, and if not, then it can be rotted in the steppes. So it is inappropriate for all of Russia and for all the people to throw slogans here. yes
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      5. what's so sharp? There was not enough fat!
  2. Dmitry Donskoy Offline Dmitry Donskoy
    Dmitry Donskoy (Dmitry Donskoy) 3 December 2020 08: 39
    -2
    The people and everyone else
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 3 December 2020 08: 43
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    The author, as usual, turns everything upside down.
    Power and influence are primarily about economics.

    And if, for example, in trade with Germany, the United States is in the first place, and the Russian Federation is not included in the top 10?
    It's clear to whom she will listen.
    And in whose stores the Belarusians, Russians, Kirghiz, Azerbaijanis, etc. will be purchased.
  4. nov_tech.vrn Offline nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn (Michael) 3 December 2020 09: 06
    +2
    in general, everyone slept through the polymers, well, as usual
  5. Alexander Zima Offline Alexander Zima
    Alexander Zima (Alexander Zima) 3 December 2020 09: 08
    +2
    Yes, yes .. soon all these monsters who betrayed Russia will help ... themselves ... China has no allies .. in India too .. there are no allies and in the United States, only vassals .. so have such friends as a Ukrainian .. And BU ... do not need enemies. Let them deal with their heritage ... according to the BEL.Pushcha agreement.
  6. Pacifist Offline Pacifist
    Pacifist (Victor) 3 December 2020 09: 10
    +7
    Who has the Russian Federation helped over 20 years of Putin's rule?

    The simplest question: Was it supposed to? If they want to rush off a cliff in a crowd, of course you can tell them. what they are, but it hardly helps. We didn't have such a goal, to save everyone. If someone wants to be rescued, they help him, but taking into account our interests. In general, the author has a mess of facts in his head that he cannot normally comprehend. It happens.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 3 December 2020 16: 25
      -1
      the text was written from the goal-setting of Moscow, after the loss of Ukraine did you feel better? if yes, no questions! if not, then think for yourself what you could have done to prevent this from happening
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      2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 3 December 2020 17: 31
        +5
        Think? What about? That the population that was with us the same country and went COLLECTIVELY crazy, we MUST? Yes, we ourselves are not always and in everything, from 91st, we must! And you. sw. Wolf, one would have to understand one simple thing: the Union was destroyed? Yes, they did! Live in an INDEPENDENT state? Yes, that is right! So why does someone owe you something ??? Why shouldn't you? Why didn't you have to RISE when the Union collapsed? Why did you not revolt and arrest neither Yeltsin, nor Kravchuk, nor Shushkevich, who were destroying the country? But then it was quite real - they WILDLY were afraid that they would have to answer for what they had done in court in the part of STATE RUNNING !!!
        Now regarding the current situation ... Listen, do you want someone else to solve your STATE problems? Well, then YOUR state will not exist! Your "state" now exists only for the Yankees to be able to endure our brain with YOUR EXISTENCE! Usually such formations are NOT VIABLE! And this fully applies to most post-Soviet countries. We, too, almost took this path, but to this day, WITH EXTREME WORK, we overcome the heredity of the struggling drunk ... and not in everything we succeed.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 3 December 2020 17: 44
          -3
          Alex, naive reasoning! Do you still think that something depends on the desire or unwillingness of the people? In 1991 we voted to preserve the Union, 87% in favor! So what? In 2014 we were against the Maidan, 80% were against it, so what? From the next. text you, you personally, learn a lot. No, not about the collapse of the USSR, but about Krymnash and about the Ukraine you lost. You will find out why Kharkiv did not become the second Donbass and who made this decision (these people are still sitting in their places in the Kremlin). Moreover, you learn not from the Wolf, but from Oleg Tsarev. To him, I hope, claims that he did nothing, no? We did everything we could, everything in our power. Some are still in jails and SBU detention centers
          1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
            A.Lex (Secret information) 3 December 2020 18: 14
            +3
            That these scoundrels are still sitting in their warm places ... we already know ... And Tsarev ... he is a product of a system that cannot jump over his head, no matter how hard he tries.
            ALL THIS SYSTEM was built by amers on the ruins of the USSR, and therefore it will not be possible to overcome it, to remake it INSTANTLY. Otherwise - World War III ... We'll have to slowly, persistently, one step at a time, return everything that was lost. But first, we need to break the idyll that "Omeriga help us!" And so that the "non-profit" people go through all the circles of hell and understand that without Russia they are nothing (which in fact is). That they are brushwood in the war with Russia.
        2. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
          Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 11: 05
          +1
          So WHY DOES SOMETHING FOR YOU ??? Why YOU SHOULD NOT? Why didn't you have to RISE when the Union collapsed? Why didn't you rise up and arrest neither Yeltsin, nor Kravchuk, nor Shushkevich, who were destroying the country? But then it was quite real - they WILDLY were afraid that they would have to be held accountable for what they had done in the part of STATE RUNNING !!!

          So it seems they even rebelled. The same GKChP.
          The only thing - he didn't shed blood!
          Although, in my opinion, the soldiers should have fired a couple of divisional salvoes from hailstones in the area in front of the White House and in the White House itself in the period 1990-91.
          Well, yes, there would have perished ten to fifteen thousand traitors, who later unleashed the genocide of our people. So what?
          There the wise Chinese have rolled out their Maidan with tanks - and where is China now? Where is Russia?
          As for the Yeltsinists, they, the great humanists, would have drowned any revolt of the people against them in the rivers of the people's blood.
          As shown in October 1993.
          1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
            A.Lex (Secret information) 10 December 2020 13: 25
            +2
            Yur, in 1993 there was a struggle between TWO branches of power (someone did not give it to someone), that's why the people have nothing to do with it. And the State Emergency Committee is a play of that "Marlezon ballet"! These figures from the "committee" were so NOT independent that even me (who had just started working after graduating from college) could see - THIS IS ALL THE STANDARD !!! They waited a LONG TIME for the tagged bear to descend to them, which has already dared to wrestle-drunk!
            And the Yeltsinists drowned the country in blood - the losses from the "capitalization" of the country exceed the losses of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War! ..... just now, no war was declared ALL over the territory, and hostilities (throughout the country) were fought - both Chechen, gang warfare, murder of officials, deputies (I'm not talking about the common people) .....
    2. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 4 December 2020 20: 34
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      We didn't have such a goal, to save everyone.

      Naturally, there was only one goal, under the slogan of "independence" to fill their pockets more tightly, but quickly, there even their own people were absolutely not interesting to all these rulers.

      If someone wants to be rescued, they help him, but taking into account ...

      However, if somewhat abstractly, then if someone needs to be saved, then they save him, and do not calculate personal gain for decades.
      Look what kind of "rashchitanets-counters" you are, it may turn out to be more expensive to walk with you "into battle".
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  8. Dan Offline Dan
    Dan (Daniel) 3 December 2020 09: 33
    +9
    The author is so "smart" only because he did not have to solve all the issues he listed. And judging by the posing of the questions, he does not know at all what he is writing about. The chatterbox is irresponsible ...
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 3 December 2020 14: 09
      +5
      he will give advice ... the questions were decided by Sergeant Arsen Pavlov from Rostov (Sparta), the hunter Akhra Avidzba from Abkhazia (Pyatnashka) and Mikhail Tolstykh, who also does not have an officer's rank (Somalia). and "Afghan warriors" either yelp from under the shop, or steal trousers from old women, serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The fleet, army, aviation, militia in dill all went over to the side of the fascists. For some reason, in the Donbass suddenly there was not a single sensible officer ... But for some reason, bad Putin does not divide the shit by grade.
      1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
        Volkonsky (Vladimir) 3 December 2020 16: 33
        -2
        Sergeant Arsen Pavlov (Motorola) first, before getting to Donetsk, ended up in Kharkov, and why Kharkov did not become the second Donbass, you will learn from the trail. text, but unlike you sitting on a warm sofa in Samara or Voronezh, I was there and it's not for you to tell me about the Afghan warriors who slept through their future, we did everything we could, but the Russian Federation did not support us
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        2. Wanderer039 Offline Wanderer039
          Wanderer039 3 December 2020 20: 58
          +7
          Kharkiv did not become Donbass because you had Kernes, who sold Kharkiv to Bandera for a check. And his fellow tribesman Plotnitsky tried to sell Donbass to Bandera, having quarreled with all volunteers from the Russian Federation. If anything, I was also in Donbass.
          1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
            Volkonsky (Vladimir) 3 December 2020 22: 43
            -4
            Apparently, passing through ... the most important thing here, probably, that the carpenter's tribe of Gepa? did I understand correctly? I don’t defend him, he’s still ugly, but who cares what nationality he is ?! By the way, if you know everything yourself, then can you tell me who killed Alexei Mozgovoy, Bednov-Batman and the Doze (mind you, I don't ask anything about the motor, Givi and Zakhar!)? really mean ukrry? who killed, both you and I know, but it was definitely not a roach! As for kernes and what he sold there to whom, you will learn from the text, it will be released the other day (if the editor misses it!). For sure, the picture of the world will slightly adjust.
            1. Wanderer039 Offline Wanderer039
              Wanderer039 4 December 2020 00: 11
              +3
              Ours had to communicate with the Roach, because of him and left, and certainly Givi and the others were not killed by us. And I don’t need to tell who Kernes is, my opinion about him is quite formed, as well as about Roach and the company, who are ready to even sell their mother to the one who pours more.
  9. vit670 Offline vit670
    vit670 (Vitali) 3 December 2020 09: 33
    -3
    Everything speaks about the role of personality in history. There were personalities with a capital letter Lenin, Stalin ... There was a great country with which everyone in the world reckoned and feared by itself ... Then came the personalities of the traitor collective farmer Gorbachev, the drunkard who seized power, Yeltsin ... then the cowardly Putin. And as a result, the country and the people disappeared. Everyone and even small-grained people like Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia are wiping their feet on us ...
  10. Tamara Smirnova Offline Tamara Smirnova
    Tamara Smirnova (Tamara Smirnova) 3 December 2020 09: 42
    +9
    This applies not only to hairdressers and taxi drivers, but also to blokhers with iskpYrd

    1. Dan Offline Dan
      Dan (Daniel) 4 December 2020 06: 04
      +1
      Quote: Tamara Smirnova
      This applies not only to hairdressers and taxi drivers

      Thanks. Balm for the soul ... good At least someone else thinks with his head !!!
    2. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 4 December 2020 20: 39
      -2
      applies not only to hairdressers and taxi drivers ..

      Everyone started with something, someone was a courier or a taxi driver and a crane operator ... So this slogan is about nothing, a person is not a hamster, does not live for three years. yes
  11. Jarilo Offline Jarilo
    Jarilo (Sergei) 3 December 2020 11: 50
    -4
    Just look where the GDP keeps its eggs, and who holds it for them. And why VVP first requested a resolution from the Federation Council to send troops to Ukraine, and then changed his mind.
  12. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 3 December 2020 12: 55
    +10
    Who has the Russian Federation helped over 20 years of Putin's rule?

    Citizens of the Russian Federation.
    1. Prevented the collapse of the state and civil war
    2. Raised the economy and the standard of living of citizens
    3. Reminded the big capitalists about the interests of the state in which they amassed their capital and the related obligations to the state

    List of Putin's "victories

    1. Previously, SP-2 was SP-1, which operates and replenishes the state budget, and SP-2 will be completed
    2. Transit through the territory of Ukraine is a ready-made transport route and the shortest route to consumers, and therefore the most profitable.
    3. A loan of 3 billion was provided to the state under an interstate agreement, not an agreement between the Russian Federation and Yanukovych as an individual.
    4. Evidence of the guilt of the DPR or the Russian Federation in the downed MH-17 - No, but there are many questions to the Ukrainian side and the court's decision.
    5. The accusations of the use of chemical warfare agents by the Russian Federation against squeak and bulk are not worth a penny, so much it is all sewn with white thread.
    6.

    lost elections in Moldova, America, Georgia, Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Belarus

    - this once again proves the non-interference of the Russian Federation in the elections of foreign states, even those that border the Russian Federation, pursue an anti-Russian policy and provide their airspace to US bombers to simulate a nuclear strike on the Russian Federation.
    7. Zigzag relations with Turkey are mainly related to the long-standing Kurdish problem and Kurdish politics in Syria.

    Allies and fellow travelers

    1.

    the base of the Black Sea Fleet is an unsinkable aircraft carrier pushed into the Black Sea

    - The Black Sea is an internal one, the exit from which is controlled by Turkey, a NATO member, and examples of relations to various kinds of international agreements, obligations, agreements of foreign partners are above the roof.
    2. Syria is in the center of three continents, the main world region for oil and gas production, transport communications.
    3. Libya is a zone of interests of Russian Railways, Gazprom and Rosneft, Roshydro and other natural monopolies.
    4. The Russian Federation cooperates with Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela and all other states of the world based on economic considerations of the state and business interests, the success or failure of which directly affects the economy and influence of the Russian Federation in the world.
    5. China:
    a) The middle state, i.e. The center, and the rest of the world is the periphery and the corresponding relationship to the periphery
    b) The PRC is the only socialist state in the world in Lenin's understanding, the economy of which is comparable to that of the USA's and the potential of which exceeds the EU and the US combined.
    6.

    Vova confronts Putin with the fact of his presence in Azerbaijan

    Rather, on the contrary, V. Putin presented R. Erdogan with a fact and, taking into account Syria, allowed Turkey's symbolic participation in the Karabakh issue.

    only strength is respected all over the world

    In the old days, power brought money and wealth.
    Today the situation is reversed, wealth and power bring money.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 3 December 2020 13: 29
      +4
      7. Returned to Africa. We oust the French from the CAR, the decision on the base in Sudan (control over the trade route through the Suez).
    2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 3 December 2020 16: 15
      -4
      2. Transit through the territory of Ukraine is a ready-made transport route and the shortest route to consumers, and therefore the most profitable.

      SP-2 is 2 thousand km shorter than the GTS, if that

      3. A loan of 3 billion was provided to the state under an interstate agreement, not an agreement between the Russian Federation and Yanukovych as an individual.

      and I mean the same - where is the money, Zin?

      4. Evidence of the guilt of the DPR or the Russian Federation in the downed MH-17 - No, but there are many questions to the Ukrainian side and the court's decision.

      there is no evidence, but there are accusations! What is the victory of the Russian Federation?

      5. The accusations of the use of chemical warfare agents by the Russian Federation against squeak and bulk are not worth a penny, so much it is all sewn with white thread.

      there - they do this only with the weak! they don't even listen!
      1. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
        Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 3 December 2020 16: 29
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        SP-2 is 2 thousand km shorter than the GTS, if that.

        In short, but it is necessary to build it and it is not cheap, and the GTS of Ukraine was built long ago.

        and I mean the same - where is the money, Zin?

        The loan is not targeted, because the state has the right to spend it on what it considers necessary.

        there is no evidence, but there are accusations! What is the victory of the Russian Federation?

        The victory is that the bias of the court's decision is obvious, and the prestige

        there - they do this only with the weak! they don't even listen!

        And to listen - what do you suggest? Start a war?
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 3 December 2020 16: 36
          -6
          The loan is not targeted, because the state has the right to spend it on what it considers necessary.

          - I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about a refund - the terms have already passed, where is the money, Zin ?!

          And to listen - what do you suggest? Start a war?

          - Yes! only strength is respected! why Israel starts an entire military operation because of one captive corporal, the US sends an aircraft carrier because of one American, China takes two Canadians prisoner because of the owner's daughter, Huawei, after which the daughter is immediately released, and Russia wipes the snot ? !!!! if you continue to wipe this way, then do not be surprised at anything!
          1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
            A.Lex (Secret information) 3 December 2020 18: 14
            +2
            Not everything is measured by dough ...
          2. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
            Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 3 December 2020 18: 52
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            only strength is respected! why Israel starts an entire military operation because of one captive corporal.

            1. Strength is respected, but money is loved. The United States wiped out many German cities with a nuclear bomb, destroyed Hiroshima, bombed Iraq and Yugoslavia, carried out a color sweep in Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Ukraine, Georgia, and now all these countries are ingratiating themselves and have become the most loyal US serfs.

            2. Israel's policy of delivering preemptive strikes against neighboring countries will sooner or later lead to a big war, and not only with some separate neighboring state - with the entire Muslim world, which will cast aside religious differences and unite in the face of Israeli aggression, and so it will be.
            Nuclear weapons are possessed not only by Israel, but also by Pakistan, India, part of whose population professes Islam, by that time Iran and Turkey will probably possess nuclear weapons.
            As a result, Israel will find itself face to face with the entire Muslim world, because today's friends of Israel, the US and the EU, will not help. having large Muslim diasporas, they will be concerned about maintaining social stability in their countries. In this regard, it is indicative that, based on their interests in the Muslim world, for so many decades they did not even dare to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and in every possible way they joked about its borders.

            3. The United States enjoys the position of the world gendarme who is allowed to do everything.

            4. The reaction of the PRC to the arrest of an aunt from Huawei is a good example for the Russian Federation, but the Russian Federation, as a rule-of-law democratic state, cannot do this and therefore, following the Biblical commandment, it does not answer all accusations of insult and provocation.
          3. Dan Offline Dan
            Dan (Daniel) 4 December 2020 06: 08
            -1
            Quote: Volkonsky
            And to listen - what do you suggest? Start a war?
            - Yes!

            It's funny to watch a dead chicken pretend to be a hawk. laughing
      2. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 3 December 2020 19: 07
        +3
        there - they do this only with the weak! they don't even listen!

        Not certainly in that way. In early summer, Johnson suggested improving relations. Putin refused, demanding that the accusations against the Skripals, Litvinenko and others be declared invalid. Johnson was quiet, for this is a loss of face. But they need better relations more than we do. After Karabakh, Putin's position will become even tougher.
    3. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
      Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 11: 09
      -1
      In general, having slept ALL of Ukraine, Putin managed to bite off a small piece and passed it off as his outstanding victory.
      True, then he did it again and drowned out the armed resistance of the Donbass! Which could quite successfully lead to the complete liberation of Ukraine from the Banderlog.
      All his Minsk initiatives worked against DONBASS!
  13. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 3 December 2020 13: 14
    +2
    Question: who helped whom and how over the past 50 years? What kind of manipulation? I am against humanism in any of its manifestations, especially at someone else's expense.
  14. Glenni Offline Glenni
    Glenni (Andrei) 3 December 2020 13: 16
    -9
    Sir, where is the economy of Russia, the economy of the rear? It actually does not exist. Anyway, everyone around is enemies, shouldn't we start with ourselves? With the media throwing mud at the disobedient countries, open support for the repression of the Belarusian people, lies from TV screens, the nullification of presidential terms.
  15. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 3 December 2020 13: 18
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    Whom Russia has betrayed in 20 years of Putin's rule

    - Personally, I am very much with a lot ... stated here atator ... - I absolutely agree ...
    - But the author nevertheless "was modest" and did not indicate one of the main reasons for such a decline in Russia over the entire period of Putin's rule ...
    - And this is that our guarantor in life is a very, very weak C grade ... with a rather low intelligence and low IQ ...
    - Yes ... - and the situation was not easy (a difficult period) and the enemy was surrounded around and there are no allies ... and inside Russia ... - there are only greedy oligarchs around who are ready to break and tear anyone for a penny ... - All this is ... and it is quite difficult to cope with all this ... - but this is not an excuse ... - you cannot manage - just leave ... - Nobody will blame for this ...
    - But it was not possible to cope with this ... - Due to my not very charismatic personality and my development, which I personally spoke about above ... - our guarantor went along a simpler, uncomplicated direction .. - it just surrounded himself a whole crowd of "statesmen", who also did not shine with any special talents, nor a special mind, nor a special professional gift ("Prime Minister Medvedev"; "commander Shoigu"; a whole financial group of "managers" - Siluanovs, Nabiullins, curls; and industrial mediocrity ; leading mediocre idlers ... - one is more mediocre than the other ... (I just do not want to list them) ... -And this "cohort" undertook to steer and rule the state of Russia and "steers" to this day ...
    Personally, I will not even mention here open criminals, obvious enemies of Russia, who deliberately inflicted heavy losses on the Russian economy, colossal losses to the entire Russian production ... - these are figures of the "Chubais type" and others like him ... - This is " special conversation "...
    - But even without these obvious enemies, this most mediocre "steering" of the aforementioned "statesmen" was enough; as well as other Gazprom "and company" scams on a national scale; so that the Russian economy ... - "trading right and left" slid lower and lower ...
    - You can add a lot of "weighty" things ... -but that's enough ...
    - To the author of the topic ... -my plus ...
    1. gore Offline gore
      gore (Alexander) 4 December 2020 05: 51
      +2
      - and ... again - .. I want to - ... to support goreninу91. -Because- .. that -style ... letters ...- she has ... just awesome!? ...- Especially-amusing - ... (three dots) ........... ...
    2. Dan Offline Dan
      Dan (Daniel) 4 December 2020 06: 24
      +3
      Quote: gorenina91
      And this is that our guarantor for life is a very, very weak C grade ... with a rather low intelligence and low IQ ...

      And your IQ, obviously, cannot be seen through a microscope, if you, besides empty on the "reporter", have not been able to advance further. And since you are not personally acquainted with Putin and did not communicate, even theoretically you cannot judge his abilities. And therefore, the very fact of your reasoning on this topic shows you no more than a fugitive from a school for children with mental disabilities. Nothing personal, just take it for granted ...
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  16. Leonid Kolyadinsky (Leonid Kolyadinsky) 3 December 2020 13: 32
    +10
    The author would return for a minute in the nineties, and then count those who have betrayed Russia in recent years. He also compared the life of Russians then and now.
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 3 December 2020 14: 13
      +8
      in the 90s he was in more well-fed Kharkov ... and now the bacon is over and Russia is simply OBLIGED to continue his banquet.
  17. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 3 December 2020 14: 28
    +4
    They would return the current Rostov prisoner to his rightful place ...

    Are you kidding me? You wouldn't make him come back. And rightly so, he would have been immediately killed there.
    At that time, Yanukovych could be kept in power only by the complete occupation of Ukraine.
    You yourself admit that:

    I answer, did it become easier for you after returning (in the enlightened world they call it annexation) of Crimea? In my opinion, the problems have only increased.

    That is, having occupied Crimea, we got more problems. And if they occupied the whole of Ukraine, would there be no problems?
    Are you serious?
    Putin openly said that Obama had asked him to convince Yanukovych not to use force on the streets, promising, in turn, that the opposition would behave in a responsible manner. Yanukovych agreed (and did not chicken out, as he is accused). But Obama threw Putin (well, as usual). But it was not Obama who spoke to Yanukovych, but Putin. It turns out that Putin threw Yanukovych and owes Yanukovych. That is why Yanukovych is in Rostov with the full support of Russia.
    And surely Putin understood that Obama could throw him, but he could not tell him in his face?
    Another of Putin's victories was the signing (when he was prime minister) of a gas agreement with Tymoshenko. For which Tymoshenko was imprisoned (here is a measure of recognition of the importance of this treaty for Russia). Putin ended the era of unlimited freebies for Ukraine at the expense of the Russian people. You just don’t remember what happened when Ukrainian enterprises received gas cheaper than Russian ones. The Ukrainians beat down Russian producers at the cost of the Russian market, not to mention external ones. From caramel (candy) to metallurgy and chemical industry. That is, where the energy intensity of the product is high. And this is a decrease in GDP, employment, a drop in exports.
    After all, why are housing and communal services tariffs so rapidly growing in Ukraine, and the IMF is forcing them to raise? These are the long-term consequences of the freebie that Putin broke off. The tariffs were unreasonably low. And after the rise in gas prices, the possibility of supporting them at such a low level disappeared.

    But look at the Sultan, his economic situation is many times worse - the lira is updating devaluation records, there is unemployment in the country, and he is busy building the Ottoman Empire.

    And the flag in his hands. It will hurt more to fall. Everyone around him is already hinting that he has gone too far. And he is only rude in response. If he doesn't understand, the EU will organize for him the same trade war as the US against China. And they organize in any case, they have no other choice, the United States is pressing on them. It's just that the United States is still busy with China and the elections, but it will also take on the EU. Well, for Turkey. So that it was discouraging to buy C 400 and insult Pompeo (no matter who the president is, they refused to meet the head of the US State Department).
    Erdogan works for an internal lohtorate but loses international support. Erdogan himself does not seem to understand this. Unlike Putin.

    Because in the whole world only strength is respected, and they wipe their feet about the weak. A vivid confirmation of my words can be the perimeter of your borders, which is now burnt, starting from Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, and ending with Armenia and Azerbaijan. Do you know who is playing with matches there?

    Yes, we know. And everyone knows. Do you propose to immediately jump across Washington?
    I really like Putin with a precise sense of proportion.
    If you need an example of a lack of a sense of proportion, carefully analyze the course and (most importantly) the results of the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-78. As a result of a full-scale and very costly war, Russia received almost nothing.
    But in the Balkans, a problem arose that continues to this day. Immediately beyond the Danube (then - the border of Russia), an artificial hostile state formation, Romania, arose. And independent, but always offended and betraying "ally" Bulgaria. Moreover, there are grounds for Bulgarian grievances. Until 1878 a strip 200 kilometers wide along the Black Sea to the mouth of the Danube belonged to Bulgaria (yes, as part of the Ottoman Empire, but nonetheless). And Macedonia belonged to Bulgaria. We do not like to remember this. Previously, Bulgaria was larger than today's Romania, and Romania did not exist at all (more precisely, it was, but where the West does not like to remember about it). And now what to do with it?
    So, it is better - like Putin, not in a hurry, but true and meaningful.
  18. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 3 December 2020 16: 16
    -8
    - Personally, I have to turn to you again, dear author ... - You have completely directed and objectively presented the essence of the matter ... - Personally, I support you ... - I have already spoken about it ...
    - And again ... - Silent additions to your topic ...
    - Even if we ignore the economic and political aspects; and go to internal ...
    - All the fault, and maybe the trouble of our guarantor is as follows; that he personally himself suddenly imagined that it is so easy to manage the Russian State ... - It's like in our Russian detective serials (I personally watch them when there is time) ... - very often in these serials there is an elderly head of the department who drags out his existence and constantly blames his subordinates: "Let me calmly finish working until retirement !!!" ... - So our guarantor runs the state as if he wants to "work until retirement"; but he himself is not going to retire at all ... - And moreover ... - he spends all his efforts to ensure that this "pension" does not take place ... - That's all the "activity" of our guarantor as a state ruler .. . as head of state ...
    - And all the betrayal of our guarantor lies in the fact that ... that ... that he prepared and taught the whole world (and "absolute enemies" and "friends") how to collectively and jointly fight against today's Russia ...
    - And with Russia for a long time the whole world has been playing like a cat and a mouse ... - For a long time the whole world perceives Russia as "virtual fun" ... - They will want ... - and publicly click on Russia on the nose (they will shoot down an airplane or a helicopter, or just Russian citizens will be killed); will they want and accuse Russia of some kind of "poisoning" or just ... - they will subject it to collective obstruction and will not let Russia into the Olympic Games; and how everyone amicably and unanimously applauded the sanctions that the Americans are constantly imposing against Russia ... - And how brazen has Germany and completely lost her sense of guilt for the monstrous invasion of the territory of Russia (USSR) ... - And today ... to the Black Sea on warships on a "friendly visit" ... -And our friend China ... -also does not lag behind these enemies ... -and has long been feeling itself the master-curator of Russia ...
    - This is betrayal ... - During the reign of the guarantor, a whole generation of young people has already grown up in Russia; young people with a hidden sense of guilt before the whole world and a distorted consciousness of a sense of their own inferiority and a willingness to serve not only everything American and Western European; but also the Chinese one ... - So who will fight if the Americans suddenly attack Russia, or Western Europe, or China ??? - Our army is still somehow still able to fight in the sands of Syria with some unattractive barmaley ... - And who will fight against the attacking Americans, Europeans, Chinese ??? - Where to get young people in Russia for all this ??? - Young people, who were already given a fake one-year service in the army, during which our soldiers practically simply "serve time" ...
    - After all, war ... is not a toy in "tank biathlon" and "joint patrolling" in the Syrian sands ...
    - This is where the betrayal lies ... - to raise a generation that does not know who and how to shoot "if something happens" ...
    1. Dan Offline Dan
      Dan (Daniel) 11 December 2020 08: 43
      -1
      Quote: gorenina91
      After all, war ... is not a toy in "tank biathlon"

      Another military expert found ?! You, citizeness, would be engaged in your own business and would stick to where your knowledge is below zero ... What does TV do with people ?!
  19. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 3 December 2020 16: 22
    -5
    What is there incomprehensible in the weakness of this government. This power is afraid of the power of the robbed people. They do not know which country to go to, who will accept them, who will return the money. Due to the fact that this power ceased to be power, but became a robber. There is no time for foreign politicians, I would live here. Now the authorities are posing as a feudal prince who says to the people - we want to protect you, and you don't crucify us on fir trees. Remember from history how the prince collected taxes several times a year, he was killed.
  20. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
    Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 3 December 2020 17: 47
    0
    It should be added:
    1. Rewriting history in the form of a blatant denial of the role of Stalin and his team in the revolutionary development of the USSR in Stalin's time and the subsequent Victory in the Second World War.
    And in general: "They didn't know how to do anything in the USSR!" Galoshes, and those turned out bad.
    2. Betrayal of the USSR at Katyn and public kneeling before war criminals from Poland.
    3. The genocide of Russians in the period 2000-2020, when as a result of the failure to take measures to drastically reduce the mortality rate of citizens in the Russian Federation, more than 8 million people died out during this period.
    4. Complete failure to take measures to curb the appetites of the "elite of the nation" formed by Putin's regime, rich, brazenly devouring, plundering the country and practically unpunished.
    All this is already a betrayal of the Soviet people (those same extinct) and Russians aged 0-28 years (those same 9 million unborn)
    1. gore Offline gore
      gore (Alexander) 4 December 2020 06: 20
      +1
      Yuri Kabaev,
      I always say to such "pisunam" - "Everything is cognized in comparison".

      3.
      The genocide of Russians in the period 2000-2020, when as a result of the failure to take measures to drastically reduce the death rate of citizens in the Russian Federation, more than 8 million people died out during this period.

      Dear, if you said "a", say "b". First, you need to analyze the problem, and only then you can "pee" (stress anywhere). But such approaches do not suit you, the main thing is to cheat. This is in the spirit of true libervotism.
      Briefly and for the future. First, answer the question (with tears in your eyes and hysterical sobbing) how many of your sidekicks in spirit put in a coffin (and many without a coffin) in the 90s (for 9! Years), then present the statistics for the years you indicated. Well, we are already here together and we will grieve why it happened. But of course you won't do this, because you yourself know that you are driving bullshit ...
      1. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
        Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 07: 53
        0
        Dear, if you said "a", say "b". First, you need to analyze the problem, and only then you can "pee" (stress anywhere). But such approaches do not suit you, the main thing is to cheat. This is in the spirit of true libervotism.

        Yes please.

        From the Central Statistical Database of the FEDERAL SERVICE OF STATE STATISTICS and the Directory “Population of Russia for 100 years. 1897-1997)

        Died:

        1990 1655993
        1991 1690657 +200746 (excess over the average mortality rate in 1971-1990)
        1992 1807441 +317530
        1993 2129339 +639428
        1994 2301366 +811455
        1995 2203811 +713900
        1996 2082249 +592338
        1997 2015779 +525869
        1998 1988744 +498834
        1999 2144316 +654406

        Total for the 90s died 20589034; excess over mortality in 1971-1990 4954506 excess over mortality in the 70-80s

        2000 2225332 +735422
        2001 2254856 +764946
        2002 2332272 +842362
        2003 2365826 +875916
        2004 2295402 +805492
        2005 2303935 +814025
        2006 2166703 +676793
        2007 2080445 +590535
        2008 2075954 +586044
        2009 2010543 +520633
        2010 2031000 +541090

        TOTAL +7753258

        Total for 1991-2010 Excess mortality 12707755 people

        As can be seen from these data, in 2000-2010 alone, the excess death rate compared to the RSFSR was 7753258 people. After 2010, excess mortality, exceeding the 20-year average mortality rate in the RSFSR, only grew.
        Well, fertility: (in detail - in the same sources)
        During the period 1971-1990, 44345177 children were born (Population of Russia for 100 years)
        In 1991-2010, 29368126 were born. (FSGS RF)
        The total loss of 14977051 children.

        The total demographic losses from the actions of the Democrats for 19 years, compared with the data from 1971-1990, 14977051 + 12707755 = 27684806 people.
      2. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
        Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 07: 55
        -1
        From the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide:

        Article II
        In this Convention, genocide means the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group as such:
        a) killing members of such a group;
        b) causing serious bodily harm or mental impairment to members of such a group;
        c) the deliberate creation for any group of such living conditions, which are calculated for the complete or partial physical destruction of it;
        d) measures designed to prevent childbearing in the environment of that group; ...

        The actions of the governments of the Russian Federation in the period 1991-2011 fall under Article II, paragraphs "c" and "d".
        No statute of limitations!
      3. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
        Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 07: 57
        -1
        how many are your sidekicks in spirit put in a coffin (and many without a coffin) in the 90s (in 9! years)

        This is YOUR sidekick put! And I am a citizen of the USSR! I was and always will be.
        By the way: how many YOUR sidekicks put in the 90s, I also brought.
      4. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
        Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 10: 00
        0
        But you certainly won't do this, because you yourself know that you are driving bullshit

        Well?
        Official data of official state statistics - bullshit?
  21. Tektor Offline Tektor
    Tektor (Tektor) 3 December 2020 18: 08
    -1
    Whom has Russia not betrayed Putin? Venezuela, Cuba, Syria, Armenia are not so important. It is important that she did not betray herself.
    1. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
      Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 07: 58
      +1
      She betrayed herself too. At least - the RSFSR and the citizens of the RSFSR definitely betrayed.
  22. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 3 December 2020 18: 57
    +3
    What? The most interesting thing is that both the author and the commentators, who are FOR, who are AGAINST, are absolutely right! They forgot, however, the period 1991-2000, it was a life! At least a bomb on a Zhiguli, if there is, at least to Turkey for clothes, if there is money. Three wars - Tajikistan, Abkhazia, Chechnya, two abroad, one in our country, but they had the same meaning: expel and exterminate the Russians. And firing at the Supreme Soviet from 4 tanks, accompanied by firing from armored personnel carriers at people who are next to him ...
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 4 December 2020 20: 55
      +1
      And firing at the Supreme Soviet from 4 tanks, accompanied by firing from armored personnel carriers at people who are next to him ...

      It happened because of the great love for the people, well, and "eternal allies" were "by chance" at their side, they probably had a successful career later.
  23. RFR Offline RFR
    RFR (RFR) 3 December 2020 20: 14
    +1
    It seems that everything is correctly said by the author, for one BUT ... Why is this happening ... But because only grandmothers rule, and fairy tales about brotherhood and patriotism, this is for suckers ... But they rule not only with us, and all the former "brothers" and partners ...
  24. Wanderer039 Offline Wanderer039
    Wanderer039 3 December 2020 20: 45
    +5
    Mr. Volkonsky is right about something, but wrong about the main thing. In the former republics of the USSR, there are none of ours, with the exception of the not numerous Russians who have not yet degenerated living there. You forget that the pogroms on the national soil of the Russian population in the former republics of the USSR were carried out by this very local people in Kazakhstan, including (among my friends, 2 families of Russian refugees from Alma-Ata) with the tacit consent and approval of all these Nazorbaevs, who and they did not lift a finger in order to stop the pogroms, punish the perpetrators and pay compensation to the victims ... Yes, the Russian Federation has interests and they must be defended without hesitation, and these interests are in returning Russian regions to the Russian Federation, regions loyal to the Russian Federation , and not all of Ukraine, or all of Belarus, which are completely not loyal to the Russian Federation, but Donbass, Kharkov, Odessa and the like must be returned to the Russian Federation, having evicted from the territory of the Russian Federation all Russophobes forcibly, like the Germans from Kaliningrad !!! This is the interests of the Russian Federation, and also the interests of the Russian Federation are to improve the standard of living and the birth rate of the indigenous population of the Russian Federation, and not to come in large numbers in the Russian Federation sick with Russophobia of foreigners, for which a new law on citizenship should long ago social guarantees for the population of the Russian Federation, but only for the indigenous population, the rest have a residence permit with the right to work, without benefits and with the possibility of immediate deportation from the Russian Federation for not loyalty to the Russian Federation and its indigenous population !!!
    1. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
      Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 08: 02
      +2
      pogroms on the national soil of the Russian population in the former republics of the USSR, was carried out by this very local people in Kazakhstan, including (among my friends, 2 families of Russian refugees from Alma-Ata) with the tacit consent and approval of all these Nazarbayevs, who did not lift a finger in order to stop the pogroms, punish those responsible and pay compensation to the victims ...

      When pogroms and massacres of Russians began in Dushanbe in 1992, A. Sobchak said at a rally in Dushanbe itself: "There are no Russians here! There are only communists here! But you can cut them!"
      The Russian Federation is a traitorous state that betrayed its parent, the USSR, at its birth.
      Those Russians who became Russians are a pack of traitors who betrayed their great homeland, the USSR, first of all.
      It was they who committed the labors and sacrifices of tens of millions of Great Russians, thousands of talented administrators and military men who expanded the boundaries of the Russian world, built a great empire, the only one capable of ensuring peace and security for dozens of peoples who entered the sphere of the Russian world.

      The labors and sacrifices of millions of Soviet people who had already created a single state, who fought and died for it, who restored it after a terrible war, who ensured the security of the state in a nuclear confrontation that threatened us all with a nuclear apocalypse, were devoted to the labors and sacrifices.

      Millions of Soviet people of various nationalities outside the borders of this already Russian Federation, who voted for the preservation of the Soviet Union, were betrayed.

      Millions of ethnic Russians who remained outside the borders of the Russian Federation were betrayed and handed over to the extremist nationalists who came to power in many republics (“There are no Russians here, there are only communists here” - A. Sobchak). Their return even to the Russian Federation itself was impeded by the Russian Federation itself, without creating any most-favored-nation treatment for their immigration, the only case in world practice. No country in the world has betrayed its own people, except for democratic Russia.

      Millions of children were betrayed. As born, the vast majority of whom were determined to live on the scanty income of their parents, which did not ensure their normal physical and mental development, from youth as a result of a half-starved existence and lack of social protection, those who had undermined health and were unsuitable even to defend their motherland-stepmother. And 15 million unborn children who were denied the opportunity to be born in a "humane" democratic Russia are absolutely unnecessary for democratic Russia.

      The democratic Russian Federation is a criminal state whose very existence began with a crime initiated by a pack of democrats. It continued with the massive robbery of its own people, direct genocide of its own people.
      All statistics inexorably point to the criminality and asociality of this "humane" state, whose only real goal is to grow the "elite of the nation" who privatized the state itself and uses it to conduct a policy of "effective management in the interests of its own business."
      1. Wanderer039 Offline Wanderer039
        Wanderer039 1 March 2021 20: 13
        +2
        Sobchak is a Bandera, just like his daughter is a walking alcoholic, so it is predictable that this Bandera rot will not do anything good for the Russian Federation and the Russians. Such should be deported, to Ridna Nenka with a wolf ticket
  25. goga3913 Offline goga3913
    goga3913 (Igor) 3 December 2020 21: 08
    +2
    And let's, on the other hand, who supported Russia, in Syria, in Crimea, who did not burn or kick our flags, or do we all owe it?
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 3 December 2020 21: 33
      -6
      And all thanks to Putin. The Golden Man What Russians Do Without Him. "He raised the country from its knees" and every day, together with his "vertical of power", he cares about improving the well-being of all citizens of the country. We wish him further success in this field!

  26. Cheburashk Offline Cheburashk
    Cheburashk (Vladimir) 3 December 2020 22: 06
    +1
    What a delusional title of the article. Let's start with what kind of "legacy" Putin got from the drunk Yeltsin and how long it takes to deal with this mess. And the question was that Russia itself would not fall apart into its component parts. Now, at least slowly, Russia is starting to gain strength. Yes, there are many criticisms of Putin, but the question is that we do not have the fullness of information when making this or that decision of Putin.
    And as for the fact that Russia has betrayed someone, so under Yeltsin there was so much of this betrayal. A lot and the very first thing is Yugoslavia!
  27. Real defeats will come along with President Navalny - that's when our drunken people, the beluga, will win!
  28. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 4 December 2020 01: 48
    +2
    Russia owed something ?? Should have prevented some neighbors from committing suicide at all costs? To save, for example, useless Russophobic Armenia? So no one attacked her, if that. Was it necessary to send troops to Ukraine ?? The author suffered, but in his head he had a mess.
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      gorenina91 (Irina) 4 December 2020 05: 10
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      Russia owed something ?? Should have prevented some neighbors from committing suicide at all costs? To save, for example, useless Russophobic Armenia? So no one attacked her, if that. Was it necessary to send troops to Ukraine ?? The author suffered, but in his head he had a mess.

      - Yes, Russia must ... - must ... - Russia's debt today is about 500 billion US dollars ... - And Russia will pay all this ... - And if something ... will transfer this debt to subsequent to their generations ...
      - But who authorized our guarantor to act like a "generous sower" and a few years ago ... -to travel around the White World and right and left .... - generously and easily and simply to forgive everyone huge debts; which dozens of states owed Russia (and the USSR) ???
      - Isn't this a great betrayal ... in relation to your state and your people ??? -What did it give Russia ??? - What ??? - Personally, I have already spoken here about the "weak C grade" and mentioned the IQ of our guarantor ... - What's wrong ??? - What is wrong ??? - Yes, a man became a "caliph for an hour" ... - Yes, he was applauded ... - and after an hour they forgot ... - It's so simple ... - And here you can no longer refer to "external difficulties"; on "pressure from the oligarchs"; to the "intrigues of the Americans" and "other enemies of Russia" ... - Such a "generous gesture" ... this is completely and completely --- "personal merit" and "personal initiative" of our guarantor ... - And forgiveness and write-off debts to Ukraine, moreover, already at a time when relations with it were already spoiled enough and there was absolutely no need for such gestures ... - And what did this give Russia ??? - And how to call it ??? - Only HPP ???
      1. cooper Offline cooper
        cooper (Alexander) 21 February 2021 08: 48
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        I will not argue about debt cancellation. Although there are some nuances in this ...
        1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
          gorenina91 (Irina) 22 February 2021 08: 21
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          I will not argue about debt cancellation. Although there are some nuances in this.

          - Yes, there is one "nuance" .. - This fear of yours to give me a plus ...
          - All the best, Mr. "brave" ...
    2. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
      Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 19: 57
      0
      There is a Law of Boundary: you cannot leave it under any circumstances. "If you leave the border - the border will follow you!" With all its everyday, administrative, economic, military and other problems.
      There are no and never have been empty territories. All territories sooner or later were occupied or simply captured. And they settled in these newly acquired territories. If you leave the territory, someone will definitely occupy it. So the former compatriots become just allies, and in the future, alienation arises between them and further - hostility. And the less we help our neighbors, the greater the alienation with the possible search for other allies, the more expensive it will be for us to create and maintain at the required level, for example, military infrastructure. It's cheaper to have allies than opponents, and cheaper compatriots than just allies.
      Throw the border, the territory will be occupied. And they will take the place. If you refuse to help, there will be other assistants who will become allies of our former ally. Will he, their new ally, be our ally?
      Examples: ALL the BALTIC are our enemies.
      GEORGIA - considers Russia to be its enemy
      Ukraine is the same.
      Ukraine seems to be a SLAVIC state. With almost half of the population being ethnic Russians.
      And they all consider us Russian fascists!
      There is an American air force base in Kyrgyzstan. And there is ours. Who will be favored in the future? And to whom - continuous difficulties? Should we build a new base? Where? What shishi?
      There are almost no relations with Tajikistan, the border with Afghanistan is completely open, drugs are flowing like a river. How many of our youth are addicted to drugs? How much does their treatment cost? It's just human lives, because they die from drugs. And what about drug addicts in Kyrgyzstan?
      So! We have abandoned borders and territories. What has become better? Yes, nothing! Continuous losses, in the field of military security, economic (in 1992, the decline in GDP amounted to almost 50% only because of the severed economic ties of enterprises of the USSR in various independent republics). The rampant nationalism led to the outflow of the Russian-speaking population and further subsequent economic degradation. The same - in terms of culture: the level of education there has become very often like that of Vaskov in "The Dawns Here Are Quiet." "I lagged behind them by more than I myself have." And if earlier these more cultured people worked mainly at home, including within the framework of economic integration, now they were left without work and came to us. Already run wild and by no means compatriots. Has it become easier for us?
      1. Yuri Kabaev Offline Yuri Kabaev
        Yuri Kabaev (Yuri Kabaev) 4 December 2020 19: 59
        0
        There are no regions where ethnic purity is available and preserved. And there is always a need for the coexistence of people of different ethnotypes, religions, customs, with different cultural levels. And there is always at the same time a nation that takes on the functions of the leader. And it solves the problems of political, administrative, confessions, economic, ethnic, etc. Such tasks become especially urgent in those regions where the leading nation, let's say, was invited, or it itself seized these lands or simply conquered. Here Central Asia and the Caucasus, for the most part, became part of the Russian Empire voluntarily. Or they entered into an alliance at the initial stage, which later passed into the unification stage. For military confrontation, for solving economic and cultural problems, etc. Of particular importance is, of course, the creation of a single defensive space and the solution and current management of the border area.
        1. Dmitry Petrovich (Dmitry Petrovich) 7 December 2020 22: 08
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          There is a gorgeous five-volume Potto about the Caucasus. So, in his words, the Caucasus has always been mutinous, only a consistent policy and the taking of amanats (hostages with the rights of citizens) could bring the Caucasus to peace.
    3. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 4 December 2020 21: 04
      0
      Should have prevented some neighbors from committing suicide at all costs?

      It's just that Mr. Yeltsin and his camarilla had no moral and legal right to break what they did not create. All "neighbors" lived in the same house, but this ... bad man with a group of people broke this house. The gentlemen and their own people were a burden, they only needed a team to service pipes and other distribution channels, and the rest did not seem to fit into that derban.
  29. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 4 December 2020 06: 45
    0
    Another owl on the globe.
    From Volkonsky ™.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 6 December 2020 11: 07
      0
      Volkonsky wrote everything correctly.
      1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
        Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 7 December 2020 02: 38
        -1
        Emotional fantasy. No more.
  30. Novice Offline Novice
    Novice (Newbie) 4 December 2020 06: 57
    0
    I think that the import substitution has not yet been completed to the level that is necessary for a more solid answer to rudeness.
    Perhaps, when this barrier comes, the West will begin to behave respectfully.
    You can't rush, otherwise you can be left without civil aviation ...
    Russia flies on western planes .... in 10 years there will be an answer.
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  32. Elena Ushkova Offline Elena Ushkova
    Elena Ushkova (Elena Ushkova) 4 December 2020 20: 07
    +3
    Poor Ukrainians ... Despite their whining, he does not want to save Nenka, reeducate, wipe the snot and feed.))
  33. Ivan Ivanov_21 Offline Ivan Ivanov_21
    Ivan Ivanov_21 (Ivan Ivanov) 4 December 2020 20: 48
    +1
    if the countries, continents and planets, were indulged in, provided that their own population is in perfect order, this is understandable ... but when their own people are driven under a beggarly box, everything looks sad and hopeless ...
  34. Sergey Shavkunov (Sergey Shavkunov) 5 December 2020 09: 42
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    You are also an author trying to sit on 3 chairs, but no, on 5 chairs. Everyone's hind mind is strong, you have it "outstanding". Besides, he mixed people with horses.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 6 December 2020 11: 06
      -1
      Why hind mind? Smart people said that this will be the case back in 2014.
  35. Nikolay Chuev Offline Nikolay Chuev
    Nikolay Chuev (Nikolay Chuev) 5 December 2020 16: 00
    0
    Putin's entourage is a Russophobic Jew and does everything to make Belarus feel like Ukraine. Luka is the only one in the post-Soviet space with whom you need to negotiate, if Luka is removed, this Jew will turn Belarus back to Russia and set up individual "brothers" (like the Banderaites) in Ukraine, and in exactly the same way the Jews will sponsor them, but Luka does not want this. The author provokes the Russians against Belarus.
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  37. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 6 December 2020 11: 05
    -1
    And all why? Because we limited ourselves only to Crimea, when it was necessary to take and restore order throughout the enraged territory. They would return the current Rostov prisoner to his rightful place (and all the grounds were - the appeal of the fugitive himself plus the permission of the Federation Council to use troops abroad), not only would there be no problems with water and electricity for the Crimeans, but nothing at all. No downed Boeing, no flaming Donbass, no bloody Odessa, no American strategists with nuclear weapons near your borders, no Tomos, no Stockholm, no problems with the Ukrainian GTS, no disruption of the Defense Order due to the refusal of the Ukrainian side to supply power plants for the needs of our fleet (the problem has not yet been resolved!), there would be no galloping packets at the walls of the Russian embassies, nor an American dirty boot at your borders.

    So.
  38. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 6 December 2020 17: 34
    0
    No victories, but we hope for the best
  39. Rubtsov Sergey Offline Rubtsov Sergey
    Rubtsov Sergey (Sergei) 6 December 2020 20: 50
    +1
    The question is urgently posed -

    Whom did Russia betray ...?

    - but the answer must be formulated with an emphasis on the axiom:

    EVERYONE in the MRU of his understanding works for himself, and in the MRU of misunderstanding for the one who understands more.

    Therefore, paradoxically, our so-called. To the best of their senselessness, the "elites" first betrayed us, and then all of the above. And in order to understand this, it is necessary to increase the number of YOUR understanding, including the author of the text I mean.
    By the way, while we are in the zone of the so-called. conceptual uncertainty due to which the Russian Federation remains a "sovereign" crypto-colony, nothing will change. The country needs a COB - the Concept of Public Security with moral principles understandable to the people and a meaningful development perspective.
  40. Dmitry Petrovich (Dmitry Petrovich) 7 December 2020 22: 02
    +1
    If we put aside emotions and look at the situation in a pragmatic sense. More could have been done, but so far it has not been possible to "strangle" the soros, namely Naibulin, Kiriyenko and Gref. "Red" is finally taken out of the "cage". Now, and even more so 6-10 years ago, the country did not have the resources to integrate any territories, Crimea cost the country only 0,7 billion US dollars to restore the infrastructure, but there is still the mentality of the people with an attempt to "go around" laws and bear the tax burden to a minimum. The thing is that the port of Sevastopol is the key of the Black Sea, if the Americans stood there, then Russia would have to spend more than one billion dollars to restore parity, and then with an undefined status.
  41. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
    Peter rybak (Patrol) 7 December 2020 22: 05
    +1
    All this is known even without such a multi-letter text. Do not vent your emotions. And I see no output. Let him down. Either say that Putin is a bad president and must be replaced, or support him as a "people's choice." We need totals under any material. You write about wars, say who is right and who is wrong. At least from your own bell tower. Write about the activities of the head of state, sum up.
    Otherwise, it is smearing porridge on a plate.
  42. konkinalexandrgeorgievitch (Alexander Georgievich Konkin) 8 December 2020 11: 20
    +1
    Traditionally, there are no elites in Russia, the Power has either thieves or representatives of the 5th column!