Bloomberg: Russia may not have an "antidote" to Turkish drones


Turkish drones Bayraktar TV2 became famous during the recent conflicts in Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh. They are manufactured by Baykar Makina, whose technical director and co-owner is Selcuk Bayraktar, the son of the company's founder and son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, writes the American Bloomberg agency.


The use of drones changed the war. Thanks to the footage they filmed, it became possible to understand the often conflicting statements of the parties. Impartial filming is also great for propaganda purposes. In addition, the public of the applying party treats the loss of drones with understanding. They are significantly cheaper than aircraft and there is no risk to the crew.

In 2019, these drones achieved some success in the confrontation with the much-publicized Russian anti-aircraft missile systems "Pantsir". Thanks to them, the government of Faiz al-Saraj was able to defend Tripoli and retain power in the western part of Libya.

In 2020, Bayraktar TV2 performed demonstratively in the Transcaucasus. Azerbaijan has used An-2 aircraft, which were used in unmanned mode to detect air defense of Armenians, as well as Israeli kamikaze UAVs. But that was not enough. Bayraktar TV2 drones have changed the balance of power. Baku won a landslide victory and regained control of most of the territories lost three decades ago.

The development of drones has undermined faith in Russia's deeply echeloned air defense system and the complexes that Moscow exports. The "Pantsir" had problems in Libya, it turned out that the ZRPK had a "blind spot". At the same time, the Armenian air defense system, even if not the most modern, practically ceased to exist. Therefore, Russia may not have an "antidote" to Turkish drones, because even the handicraft drones of jihadists in Syria sometimes pose problems for Russians.

Moscow's propaganda machine is trying to convince everyone that Russia has a reliable means of countering drones. A lot of websites told about the EW / REP complexes "Krasukha-4" and "Pole-21". However, few people know what the real effectiveness of these systems is against the tactics of Turkish drones.

The armies of many countries of the world, especially from among the not very rich, have already turned their attention to drones and wanted to expand their capabilities. They see prospects in their use, because it will be much cheaper to carry out an offensive with their help than before, and not as scary and expensive as it was before.

For example, Ukraine in 2019 bought Turkey has 6 Bayraktar TV2 drones, control equipment and ammunition for them. In 2021, Ukrainians will acquire at least 5 more units of similar products, the publication summed up.
  • Photos used: Bayhaluk / wikimedia
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  1. passing by Offline passing by
    passing by (passing by) 1 December 2020 16: 40
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    by 2021, the baboons will sell and plunder what they have ... where are the British armored cars, American all-terrain vehicles, counter-battery weapons, etc. ??? one javelin as a training mockup, for aboriginal people with chin-length green snot?
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  3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 December 2020 17: 00
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    1) There is currently no production of drones in Turkey. Due to the embargo on the supply of engines, optics and a number of other spare parts made in Canada and the EU to Turkey. When and what quality Turkey will be able to replace these products with products of its own and Ukrainian production is a big question, but the fact that the quality will be lower, and from this the characteristics of the Bukanovs themselves will become worse not to go to the fortuneteller.
    2) Armenia's air defense proved to be disgusting and another question is what was worse there, the Osa air defense systems purchased from the Arabs, or the preparation of Armenian crews for them. Su-30 of the Armenian Air Force never took off.
    3) Today, UAVs cannot compete with aviation, and this was proved in the war with Georgia in 2008, when the Russian Air Force quickly landed all Georgian drones
    1. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
      Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 1 December 2020 19: 52
      -1
      ... the Russian Air Force quickly landed all Georgian drones

      - amazing knowledge about the war with Georgia - this is probably what Konashenkov reported to you ... What kind of drones did the Georgians have? Probably those three AN-2s, defeated at airfields against 7 military fighters and bombers of Russia, "landed" by Georgian air defense systems ...
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 16 December 2020 22: 08
        +3
        You know how to turn on YouTube ?! Dial a MiG-29 of the Russian Air Force shot down by a Georgian drone and see!
        1. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
          Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 17 December 2020 11: 02
          -3
          Rotten news from the section "one woman said" five years after the supposedly possible event ...
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 17 December 2020 11: 53
            +3
            On YouTube, a video from a Georgian drone a few minutes before its death and the very fact of its destruction, not grandma said. If limited and lacking common sense, then these are your problems.
            1. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
              Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 17 December 2020 14: 32
              -3
              Well, well, HAM is a common noun ...
              1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 17 December 2020 21: 08
                +3
                Troll too.
                1. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
                  Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 17 December 2020 21: 26
                  -3
                  Self-criticism is commendable ...
                  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 17 December 2020 22: 52
                    +3
                    This is not self-criticism, this is an opinion about you.
    2. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 1 December 2020 19: 56
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      Quote: Sapsan136
      When and of what quality Turkey will be able to replace these products

      Yes, there are no difficulties there - the engines for these drones and other components are not a problem to replace with equivalent analogues from other manufacturers.

      Quote: Sapsan136
      Today, UAVs cannot compete with aviation

      For combat with manned aircraft, drones are not really used today, until such precedents are observed, but there is competition with aviation - in Karabakh they performed the tasks of attack aircraft and aerial reconnaissance, and very successfully. Yesterday, on the Syrian-Iraqi border, another high-ranking Iranian officer was eliminated with the help of a drone; earlier they would have used combat helicopters or attack aircraft - also competition for manned aircraft ... And battles in the air are also not far off, and I have no doubt who will win.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 16 December 2020 22: 10
        +3
        The key question is EQUAL. And what has been done in Ukraine, Canada and Germany IS NOT EQUAL
    3. white gentleman Offline white gentleman
      white gentleman (Ivan) 2 December 2020 14: 13
      +1
      Quote: Sapsan136
      Russian Air Force quickly landed all Georgian drones

      Nobody knows this. But then, the Georgian air defense almost every day (8 airplanes were shot down in 8 days) shot down an aircraft of the Russian Air Force, including the Tu-22 - that's a fact.
      1. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
        DeGreen 2 December 2020 20: 42
        -5
        Yes. Shot down. Because of the betrayal of Ukraine
      2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 16 December 2020 22: 31
        +5
        Well, the air defense in Georgia was Ukrainian, not Georgian. The BUK air defense system was removed along with the crew from combat duty as part of the Ukrainian air defense. You shot down 8, but less. 3 - Su-25,2 - Su-24, 1 - Tu-22M3. All Soviet-made aircraft. The very first flight of the new, then not yet serial, Su-34, destroyed your air defense systems along with your officers from the air defense of the Armed Forces. After that (since 2008), the Russian Federation refused to supply to Ukraine spare parts for air defense systems and anti-aircraft missiles. So today for you the battle with the RF Air Force will end with a good bashing.
  4. Balin Offline Balin
    Balin 1 December 2020 17: 36
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    Bayraktar TV2 became famous during the recent conflicts in Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh.

    And why did they not become famous in Syria - where is the Russian air defense?
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 1 December 2020 19: 58
      +2
      An interesting movie - and who in Syria destroyed the Russian "Armor"?
    2. white gentleman Offline white gentleman
      white gentleman (Ivan) 2 December 2020 14: 15
      +3
      Quote: Balin
      And why did they not become famous in Syria - where is the Russian air defense?

      It was in Syria that they became famous for the first time, destroying Assad's equipment and cannon fodder in batches. Teach materiel
  5. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 1 December 2020 18: 14
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    Bloomberg: Russia may not have an "antidote" to Turkish drones

    - Ha ... - How quickly the whole world (including Russia) mastered and learned to pronounce this clumsy word "bayraktar" ...
    - Ay, yes, Turkey ... has shown and proved in practice all the effectiveness of these self-made (even if not all components of Turkish production) ... -your Turkish aircraft ...
    - She literally wiped her nose with everyone ... - and Russia, which for more than ten years has still not been able to give birth and still conducts some kind of trials, after trials ... .. - But "Chubais" and "Rogozin" (and others like them) in Russia have literally penetrated into all spheres of Russian industry, science and production activity ... - So there is enough effort only to upgrade our well-worn T -72; T-80 and other "improvements" ...
    - If only Russia took up copy-paste, or something ... - And began to drive industrial copies from these Turkish "bayraktars" ... - And how long can you wait ...
    - Look ... - our peacekeepers in Karabakh, without any cover along the mountain and other roads, are moving in whole columns ... - That would be our UAVs hanging over our columns and protecting them ...
    - And what hot spots can Russia have in the near future ... - And Russia is absolutely not ready ... - everything is "giving birth" ...
    1. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 1 December 2020 18: 49
      0
      Khanum Irina speaks competently ...)))
    2. white gentleman Offline white gentleman
      white gentleman (Ivan) 2 December 2020 14: 17
      +1
      Quote: gorenina91
      - How quickly the whole world (including Russia) mastered and learned to pronounce this clumsy word "bayraktar"

      Against the background of recent events, even the "brotherly" Kazakhs have lost faith in the "allied" Russian pieces of iron

      Kazakhstan intends to purchase unmanned aerial vehicles from Turkey, including the latest Bayraktar TB3 drums.
      “Kazakhstan plans to purchase reconnaissance and strike drones of the Turkish company Baykar Makina. Instead of the Chinese UAVs Wing Loong and the well-proven Bayraktar TB2, Astana is preparing to buy the latest Bayraktar TB3.
    3. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 3 December 2020 00: 56
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      - Ha ... - How quickly the whole world (including Russia) mastered and learned to pronounce this clumsy word "bayraktar" ...

      Many people (including here) knew this word long before your birth. Because we read books. Including the history of the native (for us) country.

      - If only Russia took up copy-paste, or something ... - And began to drive industrial copies from these Turkish "bayraktars" ... - And how long can you wait ...

      They forgot to report to you. At one time, the USSR was ahead of the rest of the world in drones. When the liberda poured the country into the West, one of the points of the agreement was to stop work on drones. When it became obvious to everyone that the West was not fulfilling its commitments, they began to catch up with all possible methods. Including the Israeli ones. And if you haven't heard about it - who is your doctor.
      1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 3 December 2020 03: 56
        0
        Many people (including here) knew this word long before your birth. Because we read books. Including the history of the native (for us) country

        - Personally, I am not a connoisseur of the Turkic language and ... - especially its dialects ...
  6. zz811 Offline zz811
    zz811 (Vlad Pervovich) 1 December 2020 19: 50
    -1
    a, the propaganda machine of Kiev is trying to convince everyone that now they have trump cards against the militia ... laughing
  7. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
    Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 2 December 2020 00: 31
    0
    Another nonsense for the pan of head russophobes of all stripes
  8. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
    Astronaut (San Sanych) 2 December 2020 00: 51
    +1
    And the author did not ask himself a question, did Russia need it for Armenia to win?
    Moreover, the "little-known to the author of" Krasukha "dropped 9 Bayraktar when they were too curious about Gyumri.
  9. Dmitry Donskoy Offline Dmitry Donskoy
    Dmitry Donskoy (Dmitry Donskoy) 6 December 2020 23: 21
    0
    With backwardness, we are unlikely to find an antidote ...