War with Iran: the United States is massively deploying aircraft to the Middle East


The Central Command of the United States forces, whose territory of responsibility includes the Middle East region, released information about the redeployment of fighter aircraft from Germany to the UAE as part of the F-16 squadron "in order to contain aggression and for the sake of security and stability." Israel Defense reported on Monday 23 November.


Potential targets of American strikes have not been specified, but it is safe to assume that Washington is preparing for a war with Tehran.

We are talking about the transfer to the United Arab Emirates of the 480th fighter squadron, which is part of the 52nd regiment at the German air base "Spangdahlem" - the aircraft were relocated from Germany along with the service personnel. The exact location of the new deployment is not exactly known, but, apparently, the F-16 will now be located at the Al-Dafra airbase.

On Saturday 21 November, the Pentagon deployed B-52H strategic bombers to the Middle East. Combat aircraft deployed in North Dakota flew to the Middle East "to support America's partners and to contain aggression," the command said in a statement.

In early November, several Western media outlets reported on Donald Trump's plans to strike at the Iranian uranium enrichment plant in Natanz.
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  1. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 23 November 2020 17: 52
    -9
    This is so that life does not seem to the Persians as a continuous Turkish delight. bully
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 23 November 2020 18: 14
      +4
      Binder... Lord Zionist, I remember your calls to crush the religious leaders of Iran. You still won't calm down, do you want blood?
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 23 November 2020 18: 22
        -5
        I do not dislike the Iranian people, but I hate the religious obscurantists who seized power in this country. And I consider the question of the desire for bloodshed superfluous, however, without the blood of the enemy, one cannot win ...
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 23 November 2020 18: 44
          0
          Binder... I do not dislike the Jewish people, but I hate Zionistswho have arrogated to themselves the right to decide who is a religious obscurantist and who is not.
          And they interfere in the affairs of a foreign country.
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 23 November 2020 19: 10
            -6
            Your hate is like last year's snow to me ...
            1. isofat Offline isofat
              isofat (isofat) 23 November 2020 19: 29
              +1
              It is a pity that exhortations on Zionists do not work.
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 23 November 2020 22: 19
                -4
                The Zionists are impressed only by the arguments of reason.
                1. isofat Offline isofat
                  isofat (isofat) 23 November 2020 22: 41
                  0
                  Binder... I know without you that conscience for a Zionist, this is an empty phrase. smile
                  1. Binder Offline Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 23 November 2020 22: 43
                    -3
                    How do you know the Zionist scale of values?
                    1. isofat Offline isofat
                      isofat (isofat) 23 November 2020 22: 57
                      0
                      Indeed, from where? You have no Zionist values. And there is no scale. I have already spoken about conscience. smile
                      1. Binder Offline Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 23 November 2020 23: 27
                        -5
                        Whose cow ...
                2. magma Offline magma
                  magma (Tatyana) 24 November 2020 10: 59
                  +2
                  The Zionists are impressed only by ...

                  the main determining factor is strength.
                  1. Binder Offline Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 24 November 2020 15: 27
                    -4
                    Madam, that is why the Zionists have created their own powerful army, which is able to repel any aggressor.
                    1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
                      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 18: 21
                      0
                      Well, or get him as an aggressor from Hezbollah, as it was in 2006, and shamefully retreated when they began to receive dozens of corpses on the battlefield ..
                      1. Binder Offline Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 25 November 2020 20: 08
                        -1
                        Lying is your everything. lol You would at least slightly dilute your lies with the truth according to the method of Dr. Goebbels. fool
                      2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
                        PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 20: 45
                        0
                        Why lie? These are facts and they are much more interesting than your fairy tales ..
                      3. Binder Offline Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 25 November 2020 20: 47
                        -1
                        There are zero facts in your comments.
                      4. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
                        PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 22: 48
                        0
                        There are a lot of facts, it's just that you have burned out, and you have to admit it ..
                      5. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
                        PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 23: 16
                        0
                        Is your brain refusing to understand reality? You still have to ..
          2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
            PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 20: 52
            +1
            This is unlikely .. And you are a great example of this .. But the precise Iranian missiles, work on you much better, because they bring death and not gesheft!
            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 25 November 2020 21: 07
              -1
              Delirium of a gray mare on a moonlit night. The level of development of fundamental science and applied disciplines in Iran, as well as the capabilities of the local industry, do not allow achieving any significant results in the production of modern weapons systems. Only a completely dense man in the street can not understand this. No matter how you dreamed of the coming victories of the Persians, these dreams have nothing to do with reality.
              1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
                PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 22: 59
                0
                Dense commoners like you do not understand that you are behind in time and live on old couples.
              2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
                PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 23: 19
                +1
                Run and see the facts, I gave links there, otherwise some of them will delete them out of anger again, knocking the admin ..
                1. isofat Offline isofat
                  isofat (isofat) 25 November 2020 23: 48
                  -3
                  PRORUDORUB... Even two of his higher educations could not influence what he is gifted with by nature. And you won't succeed. smile
                2. Binder Offline Binder
                  Binder (Miron) 26 November 2020 07: 34
                  -1
                  Education and common sense make it possible to objectively assess the situation, and you and Mr. Pravdorub_2 are deprived of both of these qualities. The problems are entirely yours ...
                3. isofat Offline isofat
                  isofat (isofat) 26 November 2020 12: 58
                  -2
                  Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                  Education and common sense enable an objective assessment of the situation

                  And you have something to do with it, sir Binder?

                  PS By the way, you cannot deprive us of anything. smile
  • sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 23 November 2020 18: 21
    +4
    Iran is not so helpless as some people think !!!
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 23 November 2020 18: 50
      -2
      I don’t want war.
    2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 19: 26
      +2
      Exactly. Iran is among the 6 countries with technologies for the production of high-precision missiles.



      Iran's new military-industrial complex cruise missile. Israeli experts admitted that neither the United States nor Israel would stop this missile. The missile has increased accuracy and is capable of carrying a large charge over considerable distances, up to 1200 km and is resistant to the RB

      https://youtu.be/r5VPMZKz_jU

      https://youtu.be/M9sx6ducqKY

      New high-altitude tactical missile Labeik 1



      The Pentagon acknowledged that Iranian missiles were the best in the Middle East and some of the best in the world.

      Pentagon says Iran's missiles unrivaled in Middle East

      https://youtu.be/oB_QsqWwUU0

      Soumar cruise missile. Range of fire, up to 2500 - 3000 km, Speed ​​- 260 m / s.



      USA admitted that their missile defense system will not save the USA from Iranian missiles

      https://youtu.be/xE0usnhAni8

      Iran has proven that it can easily approach the Americans and destroy them unexpectedly. The Americans will not even have time to understand where the blow came from !?

  • PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 18: 10
    +1
    What is this attempt to attack Iran? 12th
  • PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 18: 19
    +1
    Why were you so happy? And you will get something that does not seem a little! Iran and Hezbollah are waiting for a reason to rummage through Israel with missiles ...
  • PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 19: 16
    +1
    Why will Israel lose the next war? Hezbollah has a nasty collection of over 130 rockets, rockets and mortars aimed at Israel. This arsenal is larger than that of all NATO countries (excluding the US) combined. Former Major General of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), Yakov Amdror, talks about M-000 missiles. It is a fairly accurate ballistic missile that weighs more than the Hummer H-600, with a huge warhead. The M2 can deliver chemical weapons. One M-600 can destroy a good chunk of Times Square and kill and injure four human football fields from one point of impact. Hezbollah has a lot of M-600s. Hezbollah's arsenal - about 600 long-range missiles with high payloads, rockets and rockets with names such as Fateh700 - are capable of not only destroying buildings in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, wreaking havoc on major Israeli military bases, but also causing death to thousands of Israeli citizens, destroy the country's aero and seaports and disable the power grid. And this is only in the first week. ”Iran supplies Hezbollah with the most advanced weapons.
    Make no mistake: if hostility breaks out, there will be a deadly ground war. Air operations are simply not enough to dismantle and destroy the maze of underground launchers, tunnels and Hezbollah infrastructure, regardless of the mask of courage the IDF leadership is trying to wear, in the next conflict with Hezbollah, Israeli tanks will be torn to pieces, planes will fall from the sky. the patrol fleet will be sunk, and the multibillion-dollar Israeli offshore gas installations in the Mediterranean may end up on the seabed. Many young IDF soldiers will return home in sacks .. Now it is clear why Israel, even in an alliance with the United States for 40 years of very bad relations with Iran, did not find the strength and courage to attack Iran. The next war between Israel and Iran's proxy forces will be catastrophic for Israel and not similar to the previous ones. Who is friends with English, look:

    ISRAEL'S WAR WITH IRAN WILL CAUSE NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN IMAGES #WARTHOGDEFENSE

    Israel could not defeat unarmed Hezbollah in 2006, even using up to 400 armored vehicles and aircraft! After 33 days of unsuccessful battles with Hezbollah, Israel was forced to retreat, losing more than 150 killed and 52 armored vehicles.
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 23 November 2020 19: 33
    +1
    This is the third piece of news about "about to war with Iran" over the past 3 years.
    But so far, everything is zilch ...
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 23 November 2020 20: 07
      -2
      Are you happy about it or do you regret it?
  • steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 23 November 2020 19: 45
    0
    If the US starts a war, Iran will not stand it. Of course Iran will answer. But if Russia doesn't help, Iran won't fight back. And the US war, now, oh, how necessary.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 23 November 2020 21: 08
      +2
      Why don’t Trump have such adventures as a curtain so that Biden’s legacy can be left with an abscess, no more ... And Russia is not going to be silent here either, because the next one is next ... And if Iran, Turkey and the Russian Federation show solidarity, all US attempts to maneuver will remain ...
    2. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 24 November 2020 09: 02
      -3
      No more than Russia.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 24 November 2020 12: 37
        +1
        Natan bruk, you probably forgot about genocide, a crime without a statute of limitations? Let me remind you that the USA was built this way.
        1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
          Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 24 November 2020 13: 23
          -3
          Oh, but who would say. The Russian empire conquered new lands exclusively by persuasion and carrots. And what does this have to do with the fact that the United States really needs a war now? It needs exactly the same as Russia.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 24 November 2020 14: 08
            +2
            Natan bruk, not oh yeah. We are talking about the genocide of the population, a crime without a statute of limitations.

            The USA in this world matters to everything. Do you the Zionists not knowing who finances the Israeli army? Who is bombing, organizing "color" revolutions? Who has the largest budget in the entire world?

            What is happening now? Are you sure the Pentagon is under the President... Trump recently announced the withdrawal of the military from Afghanistan, Iraq, now information is coming in about a strike on Iran ...

            The current president of the country announced that the elections were rigged.
            Are you sure that there was no coup disguised as an election in the United States?

            USA is a state, a criminal. The media of this country are enemies of the Americans.
            Let me note that it was they who created the atomic bomb and used this weapon, wiping out two cities from the face of the earth.
            1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 24 November 2020 15: 39
              -2
              You should first learn what Zionism is, and not repeat Soviet propaganda.
              1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
                PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 19: 34
                +1
                Zionism is a policy of aggressive expansion of Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates in accordance with the distorted texts of the Old Testament, where God allegedly promised the Jews these lands. But the problem is that God did not promise the Jews, but the descendants of the firstborn Abraham Ismail, that is, the Arabs. If you look at the map of the world, it turns out that God deceived the Jews, because the Arabs got these lands and became very numerous like the sand of the sea (up to 400 million people) compared to the Jews (up to 23 million people)
                1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
                  Alexzn (Alexander) 25 November 2020 20: 56
                  -1
                  No Zionist would dream of expanding Israel to the Nile and Euphrates. Only from people like you we learn about such absurdities.
                  1. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 25 November 2020 22: 47
                    -2
                    Quote: AlexZN
                    No Zionist would dream of expanding Israel to the Nile and Euphrates.

                    Alexzn, can you name the borders, upon reaching which, Israel will cease to grow in territories?
                  2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
                    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 22: 53
                    +1
                    And the fact that Israel is seizing the territory of Palestine .. it looks like you are talking nonsense .. Israel just does not have the power to capture more ..
                  3. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 25 November 2020 23: 04
                    -2
                    Quote: Netanyahu
                    Here's the truth: these territories are the place where the Jewish people originated and developed. The time has come to extend [to them] Israeli sovereignty and write another glorious chapter in the history of Zionism

                    - noted the politician.
                    Does this somehow help you with the answer to my question? smile
            2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
              PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 18: 24
              +1
              Bravo! It couldn't be better. They have such chaos there, they will soon start to wet each other ..
          2. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 24 November 2020 14: 26
            +1
            PS The largest military budget...
            USA creators of the atomic bomb, pioneers. The American media are the enemies of all humanity.
            1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 24 November 2020 15: 40
              -2
              In your brains inflamed with Kisel-TV.
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 24 November 2020 15: 54
                -2
                1. The American media are the enemies of all mankind. This was said by the current president of the United States.

                2. Only the Japanese do not know who was the first to create and test atomic weapons.

                3. And this is a comparison of military budgets

              2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
                PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 26 November 2020 07: 54
                +1
                And in your cesspools, like ITON TV?
    3. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 18: 13
      +1
      Why can't it stand? It will not stand Iraq, everything in Iran is ready for the quick deportation of tens of thousands of Amers to another dimension ..
  • Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 23 November 2020 19: 55
    -1
    Who else should I bomb today? Naturally, as in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, unrequited ...
  • isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 23 November 2020 23: 20
    -3
    Is the Pentagon subordinate to the president or not? Something I had doubts. Trump recently announced the withdrawal of the military from Afghanistan and Iraq.
    Or was the coup combined with the elections in the USA?
  • Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 24 November 2020 06: 35
    +4
    I think it's not a good idea to bomb uranium enrichment plants .... If something goes wrong and the "nuclear cloud" after the bombing goes towards Russia, polluting everything in its path, will this be considered the beginning of a nuclear war between Russia and the United States?
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 24 November 2020 09: 42
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    I don’t want war.

    - Why scared?
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 24 November 2020 12: 28
      +1
      Michael1950... Aren't you ashamed, old, born in 1950? You won't go to fight. It is possible that he is tired of living, it hurts here, it hurts there ... Let the young live without wars.
  • _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
    _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 24 November 2020 10: 07
    0
    yes that this historical showdown of "relatives" of Abraham looks like and will take an apocalyptic turn sooner or later
    1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 18: 15
      +1
      Unfortunately, there is such a danger .. but Israel is definitely not a tenant in this batch ..
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 24 November 2020 13: 14
    -2
    Quote: _AMUHb_
    yes that this historical showdown of "relatives" of Abraham looks like and will take an apocalyptic turn sooner or later

    Persians became relatives of Abraham ... Aren't you ashamed?
    1. _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
      _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 24 November 2020 13: 20
      +1
      respected blessing you understand one thing, but the children are far from "one".
    2. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 19: 20
      +1
      Aren't you ashamed? The progenitor of the Jews is Abraham and Sarah. Where did they come from? They came from the region of Ur, this is the Mesopotamia of the Tigris and the Euphrates, and this is the territory of modern Iraq, but there were no Arabs there yet, so they and the Jews will have to appear later .. It is quite possible that proto-Persian tribes lived there
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 24 November 2020 13: 50
    0
    Quote: _AMUHb_
    respected blessing you understand one thing, but the children are far from "one".

    Does this set of words carry any semantic load?
    1. _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
      _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 24 November 2020 17: 08
      +1
      In the Middle East, confusing a Persian with an Arab is considered an insult.

      thanks dear! your hopes saw the difference ... what then remains the cause of hatred? ancient slavery ...
  • Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
    Rashid116 (Rashid) 24 November 2020 17: 13
    0
    As always, Jews rejoice in someone's blood
  • The comment was deleted.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 24 November 2020 17: 36
    -1
    Quote: _AMUHb_
    In the Middle East, confusing a Persian with an Arab is considered an insult.

    thanks dear! your hopes saw the difference ... what then remains the cause of hatred? ancient slavery ...

    Who hates who? What kind of slavery and what have the Persians got to do with it?
  • Bitter Offline Bitter
    Bitter (Gleb) 24 November 2020 23: 23
    -1
    The United States is massively deploying aircraft to the Middle East.

    Preparing for the inauguration of the new president. Probably. repeat
  • Konstantin Borzoi (konstantin borzoi) 25 November 2020 12: 27
    -2
    probably will! Karabakh was given in order to crawl closer to Iran. Ours again betrayed Iran like Libya in its time! Shegerala Al Qastma was also betrayed by ours! More and more I am inclined to believe that Putin and his team are agents of Israel !!!
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 25 November 2020 20: 18
    -1
    Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
    Aren't you ashamed? The progenitor of the Jews is Abraham and Sarah. Where did they come from? They came from the region of Ur, this is the Mesopotamia of the Tigris and the Euphrates, and this is the territory of modern Iraq, but there were no Arabs there yet, so they and the Jews will have to appear later .. It is quite possible that proto-Persian tribes lived there

    And in Africa there was a general prodigality, so what?
    1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 25 November 2020 22: 50
      +1
      And nothing! It's just that the Jews descended from the Persians or their ancestors ..
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 26 November 2020 01: 07
    0
    Quote: isofat
    Michael1950... Aren't you ashamed, old, born in 1950? You won't go to fight. It is possible that he is tired of living, it hurts here, it hurts there ... Let the young live without wars.

    - Sometimes, young, it is better (safer) to start a war in time and finish off the enemy than to wait until, being in favorable conditions, he will finish you off. This wisdom is more than five thousand years old ... negative
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 26 November 2020 15: 24
      -3
      Michael1950... I'm not talking with you about how best to finish off the enemy. And that war is bad.
      Is your head in trouble?
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 26 November 2020 01: 08
    +1
    Quote: AlexZN
    Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
    Aren't you ashamed? The progenitor of the Jews is Abraham and Sarah. Where did they come from? They came from the region of Ur, this is the Mesopotamia of the Tigris and the Euphrates, and this is the territory of modern Iraq, but there were no Arabs there yet, so they and the Jews will have to appear later .. It is quite possible that proto-Persian tribes lived there

    And in Africa there was a general prodigality, so what?

    So this is five million years ago! laughing
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 26 November 2020 01: 17
    0
    Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
    Aren't you ashamed? The progenitor of the Jews is Abraham and Sarah. Where did they come from? They came from the region of Ur, this is the Mesopotamia of the Tigris and the Euphrates, and this is the territory of modern Iraq, but there were no Arabs there yet, so they and the Jews will have to appear later .. It is quite possible that proto-Persian tribes lived there

    - The Jews did not come from the Persians, and not from the Arabs (they did not smell there even then), the city was called that: Ur of the Chaldees, - the Jews descended from the Chaldeans:
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B8
    They lived in clans, under the rule of their leaders, known from cuneiform sources, who sought to maintain independence both from each other and from the Assyrians who were trying to conquer Southern Babylonia, which the Kassites called Kardunias (“Kardu country", That is, the Chaldeans)
    You will all laugh: very recent studies have shown that Jews are genetically as close as possible to Kurds! smile The Kurds are our closest relatives, literally ... Some 4000 years later, as the forefather Abraham left Ur of the Chaldees with his children and households ...
    And the Jews as a people arose already on the territory of modern Israel, when Abraham went a long way ...


    1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 26 November 2020 07: 57
      +1
      Great, thanks for the info. But you forgot that Kurds are Iranian-speaking dialects!
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 26 November 2020 01: 46
    0
    Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
    Zionism is a policy of Israel's aggressive expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates in accordance with the distorted texts of the Old Testament, where God promised the Jews these lands.

    - What do you mean "supposedly" ?! Isn't the Old Testament also part of the Bible for the Orthodox? Or are you a Muslim ?!

    But the problem is that God did not promise the Jews, but the descendants of the firstborn Abraham Ismail, that is, the Arabs.

    - Muhammad said this to his Arabs, having overheard the reading of the Torah from the Jews. lol

    If you look at the map of the world, it turns out that God deceived the Jews, so the Arabs received these lands and became very numerous like the sand of the sea (up to 400 million people)

    - They are just very arrogant and aggressive. And to understand something, you always need to refer to primary sources!

    https://toldot.ru/limud/library/humash/bereshit/leh/

    Chapter 16
    1. But Sarai, Abram's wife, did not give birth to him; and she has a Myzritian slave [Egyptian] named Hagar. 2. And Sarai said to Abram: Behold (the womb) the Lord closed me, that before birth. Come to my slave; perhaps I will rise up through her. - And Abram listened to the voice of Sarai. 3. And Sarai, Abram's wife, Hagar-Mizrit, her slave woman, after ten years of Abram's stay in the land of Canaan, took her and gave her to Abram her husband, to him as a wife. 4. And he went in to Hagar, and she conceived; and she saw that she had conceived, and her mistress became disrespectful in her eyes. 5. And Sarai said to Abram: My grievance is against you. I gave my slave girl into your bosom, and she saw that she had conceived, and I became disrespectful in her eyes. May the Lord judge between me and between you! 6. And Abram said to Sarai: Behold, your servant girl is in your hands; do with her as you please. - And Sarai oppressed her, and she ran away from her. 7. And the angel of the Lord found her at a spring of water in the desert, at a spring on the way to Shur. 8. And he said: Hagar, the servant Sarai! Where did you come from and where are you going? And she said: From Sarai, my mistress, I run. 9. And the angel of the Lord said to her: Return to your mistress and endure oppression under her hand. 10. And the angel of the Lord said to her: I will greatly multiply your offspring, and they will be uncountable from the multitude. 11. And the angel of the Lord said to her: So you will conceive and give birth to a son. And call his name Ishmael, for your Lord has heard (the cry from) oppression. 12. And he will be a wild man, his hand against all, and the hand of all against him; and will dwell in the presence of all his brothers. 13. And she cried the Name of the Lord, who spoke to her, (and said :) You are Gd (all) of the vision. For she said: Have I seen here also after what I have seen? 14. Therefore the well is called: the well of the living, which I have seen. Here he is between Kadesh and Bared. fifteen. And Hagar bore Abram a son, and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore Ishmael. 16. And Abram was eighty and six years old when Hagar gave birth to Ishmael to Abram.

    Chapter 17
    1. And Abram was ninety years old and nine years old, and the Lord revealed Himself to Abram, and He said to him: I am Gd Almighty. Walk before Me and be whole. 2. And I will put My covenant between Me and between you and will multiply you exceedingly. 3. And Abram fell on his face, and Gd spoke to him like this: 4. I, here is My covenant with you, and you will be the father of many nations. five. And henceforth you will not be called Abram, but your name will be Abraham, for I will give you to become the father of many nations. 6. And I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will let you become nations, and kings will come from you. 7. And I will establish My covenant between Me and between you and between your offspring after you in their generations as an eternal covenant: to be Gd for you and for your offspring after you, 8. And I will give you and your offspring after you the land of your dwelling, all the land of Canaan [Canaan] for an eternal possession, and I will be their God. 9. And Gd said to Abraham: But you keep my covenant, you and your offspring after you in their generations.

    compared to Jews (up to 23 million people)

    - There are about 16 million Jews on Earth today.
    1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 26 November 2020 08: 15
      +1
      The son of the covenant Ismail, because only he can be the only one before the birth of Isaac. In the Torah, Ismail is considered legitimate and he is entitled to most of the inheritance .. Therefore, Ismail cannot be written off. And the facts say that in fact God made the covenant through Ismail: the promised lands from the Nile to the Euphrates are Arab, the Arabs are 20 times more Jews, and the feast of the sacrifice of rams, as was done by the order of the angel Abraham, is done only by Muslims! If Abraham sacrificed Isaac, then why do the Jews not celebrate this feat of their ancestor, Abraham ...? That is why they do not, because the Jews are outside the covenant!
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 26 November 2020 08: 26
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    Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
    And nothing! It's just that the Jews descended from the Persians or their ancestors ..

    Stick to some logic! Either from the Persians or from their ancestors.
    One ancestor - we are all from one ancestor. From the Persians - as an established ethnos, the Persians appeared after the Jews. Is there an ethnic connection - for some part of the population, of course. So what?
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 26 November 2020 14: 15
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      Quote: AlexZN
      So what?

      The Persians are still relatives of Abraham ... And you should be ashamed, not _AMUHb_. smile
  • PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 26 November 2020 08: 27
    +1
    Quote: Michael1950
    If you look at the map of the world, it turns out that God deceived the Jews, so the Arabs received these lands and became very numerous like the sand of the sea (up to 400 million people)

    Moreover, the Jews did not become as numerous as the sea sand, as God promised! Well, God couldn't have deceived the Jews, right? This means that God did not deceive the Jews, but the covenant was given to future Muslims, because all the points of the promise are on Muslims ..
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 26 November 2020 08: 35
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    Quote: AlexZN
    No Zionist would dream of expanding Israel to the Nile and Euphrates.

    Alexzn, can you name the borders, upon reaching which, Israel will cease to grow in territories?

    He reached them back in 1967 and since then only RETURNED to those who agreed to live with him in peace. Egypt and Jordan are examples of this. Negotiations were held with Syria in the early 90s on the return of the Golan in exchange for peace, Syria balked. The question has been cleared today. They left Gaza, they left South Lebanon. And where is the aggressive desire to seize territories from the Nile to the Euphrates?
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 26 November 2020 15: 03
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      Quote: AlexZN
      He reached them back in 1967 and since then he only RETURNED ...

      You cannot refund if you have not taken it before. It turns out Israel forced to return part of what he grabbed. In other words, something was returned.

      When you stop stealing someone else's, you didn’t answer my question. This is sad.
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 26 November 2020 08: 37
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    Quote: PRAVDORUB_2
    Great, thanks for the info. But you forgot that Kurds are Iranian-speaking dialects!

    - Yes, today they can even speak Chinese, son of Ismail ... lol This does not affect genetics ...
    1. PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
      PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 26 November 2020 14: 17
      +1
      Well, about the Chinese you bent ..
  • PRAVDORUB_2 Offline PRAVDORUB_2
    PRAVDORUB_2 (المسلما المحب في الله) 26 November 2020 14: 16
    +1
    Quote: isofat
    It is a pity that exhortations on Zionists do not work.

    But Iran's precision missiles work well on them.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 26 November 2020 15: 26
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    Quote: Netanyahu
    Here's the truth: these territories are the place where the Jewish people originated and developed. The time has come to extend [to them] Israeli sovereignty and write another glorious chapter in the history of Zionism

    - noted the politician.
    Does this somehow help you with the answer to my question? smile

    Once again - we are talking about the territory within the borders of 1967 and Netanyahu is talking about the territories in the Jordan Valley, occupied in 67th. Need to remind about why the war began in 1967? When the neighbors promised to throw the Jews off the sea so that those who remained would go to their countries (if anyone remains - as Nasser stated).
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 26 November 2020 16: 31
      -3
      Quote: AlexZN
      Once again - we are talking about the territory within the 1967 borders and Netanyahu is talking about the territories in the Jordan Valley ...

      Again - Alexzn, can you name the borders, upon reaching which, Israel will cease to grow in territories?
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 26 November 2020 15: 30
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    Quote: AlexZN
    He reached them back in 1967 and since then he only RETURNED ...

    You cannot refund if you have not taken it before. It turns out Israel forced to return part of what he grabbed. In other words, something was returned.

    When you stop stealing someone else's, you didn’t answer my question. This is sad.

    Remind you how and as a result of what BRALI the earth? In 1948 when 5 Arab countries attacked Israel ... in 1967 when 7 Arab countries ... in 1973 when Syria and Egypt ...
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 26 November 2020 16: 24
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      Quote: AlexZN
      Remind you how and as a result of what BRALI the earth?

      It seems like a smart person, I do not believe that you did not understand my question.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 26 November 2020 17: 23
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    Quote: AlexZN
    Once again - we are talking about the territory within the 1967 borders and Netanyahu is talking about the territories in the Jordan Valley ...

    Again - Alexzn, can you name the borders, upon reaching which, Israel will cease to grow in territories?

    So the Jordan Valley is already Israeli, we are talking about the status of this territory. At the beginning of 0x Arafat was offered 93% of the territories, he wanted everything ... Today the train left. Woe to the vanquished!
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 26 November 2020 17: 28
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    Quote: AlexZN
    Remind you how and as a result of what BRALI the earth?

    It seems like a smart person, I do not believe that you did not understand my question.

    I realized long ago that you are not interested in an answer based on a historical-academic approach. You have your own worldview, which has nothing to do with reality.
    When will Russia give up Crimea, Kuril Islands, Koenigsberg? - Unlike you, I understand the stupidity of such questions.
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 26 November 2020 23: 46
    0
    Quote: isofat
    Quote: AlexZN
    Once again - we are talking about the territory within the 1967 borders and Netanyahu is talking about the territories in the Jordan Valley ...

    Again - Alexzn, can you name the borders, upon reaching which, Israel will cease to grow in territories?

    - Do not tell, "about the territory": the Arabs captured 14 million square kilometers the earth's surface, territory in 700 times more than the territory of the State of Israel! And all the land is not enough for them, they yell that "the Jews took the land away from them."
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 26 November 2020 23: 50
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    Michael1950... I'm not talking with you about how best to finish off the enemy. And that war is bad.
    Is your head in trouble?

    - This is your "head trouble" - and war is not always bad at all. It is sometimes very good and very helpful in helping to prevent future disasters.
  • zaf Offline zaf
    zaf (zaf) 9 December 2020 12: 07
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    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    This is so that life does not seem to the Persians as a continuous Turkish delight. bully

    and here are the first fruits of the Iranian response: on December 5, a high-ranking Mossad leader was liquidated in Tel Aviv itself:



    - it will be bad for Zionys now ... even in their native Tel Aviv or Jerusalem, no one guarantees their safety ..

    - and this will be a lesson for the Zionists, they do not live on another planet but they can and should be obtained.
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