In the fight against the Russian "Armata" the United States chose a promising path


While the domestic military-industrial complex is engaged in the Armata platform, the main distinguishing feature of which is an uninhabited tower, the Pentagon has chosen to take a different path. In the United States, work is underway to bring combat robots of all classes, from light to heavy, to the battlefield. And this creates big problems for our "Armata", and not only for it.


A specialized American edition of Breaking Defense came out with a publication about a very interesting project called Mission Enabler Technologies - Demonstrator. On the basis of the M113 armored personnel carrier, the US Army Research Center created the so-called Robotic Combat Vehicle (RCV). If successful, this experimental prototype could become the progenitor for a whole family of robotic combat vehicles. What are they working on now for the Pentagon?

The US military is completely changing the approach to armored vehicles. The solid size and heavy weight of any combat vehicle is a requirement for ensuring the safety of its crew. By making the turret uninhabited, Russian developers were able to reduce the number of tank crew members from four to three. The US intends to create a completely uninhabited tank, thereby reducing armor thickness, size and weight equipment, fuel consumption, and speed will also increase. The weight of the lightest reconnaissance vehicle in the planned family can be only 7 tons, the average - 20, the heaviest - 30 tons. The armament will be, respectively, a small-caliber cannon plus a machine gun or a medium-caliber cannon, supplemented by a large-caliber machine gun. They will not be able to pierce the armor of the "Armata", but these are, perhaps, all good news.


Samples of military equipment for testing advanced technologies

The main changes are the approach to the management of military equipment. At this stage, it is assumed to be remote. The operator remotely controls the armored vehicle using an optical-electronic tracking system, he also gives the command to open fire. Radar is not used to reduce the visibility of the combat vehicle. But this is today, and tomorrow the robot on the battlefield will be controlled by artificial intelligence (AI). Project participant Colonel of the US Army Chris Orlovsky explained:

Remote control is good; it works fine if you have the right radios and the right environment, but in the long run when these environments are tested I think remote control will become less viable and we will have to really push automation and autonomy on these platforms.

Transferring control of military equipment to AI is an extremely difficult task. It is necessary to teach the robot to recognize targets, interact with other armored vehicles and units on the battlefield, support them with fire, move using terrain folds and other shelters. However, the Americans are already doing this work: over 3,5 million different images were analyzed to create the recognition algorithm. Unmanned vehicle systems are already available and are being tested on the roads. It remains to train the artificial intelligence to independently make the decision to open fire, which is a little scary to imagine. In addition, in the future, a combat robot may be equipped with its own UAV, it is not yet known, just a reconnaissance or reconnaissance-strike, which will increase its capabilities.

Alas, we are lagging behind again. We have not yet heard about combat robots with AI. Several years ago, only the remote-controlled Uran-9 robotic complex was developed, but it proved to be very unconvincing in trials in Syria. Problems were identified with control, low speed, low firepower and reliability of the gun, as well as the inability to fire on the move. In open sources, it is reported that these problems have been eliminated, but today this robot is of no real interest to the military. Taking into account the direction of the potential adversary's design thought, it is necessary to change the approach to the development of artificial intelligence for the needs of the Russian army. Otherwise it will be too late later.
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  1. amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 21 November 2020 14: 09
    +5
    Guardian birds discovered that during their work, the number of murders and violence against the person began to grow exponentially. This was true insofar as their definition of murder was constantly expanding and encompassing more and more diverse phenomena. But for the Guardian Birds, this growth meant only that the old methods were untenable. Simple logic. If method A does not work, try method B. Guardian birds began to strike to death.

    “Listen,” he asked, still looking up at the sky, “and who will the Hawks hunt for when they kill all the Guardian Birds?”
    - That is, as? - confused MacIntyre. “N-well ... after all ...”
    “You would have designed something for hunting the Hawk for safety.” Just in case, you know.
    - Do you think ...
    - I know one thing: the Hawk is a self-governing mechanism. So is the Guardian Bird. At one time, it was argued that if you control the Guardian Bird from a distance, it will be too slow. We only cared about one thing: to get this very Guardian-bird, and as soon as possible. No restraining centers were foreseen.
    “Maybe we'll figure something out now,” McIntyre said uncertainly.
    “You took and launched into the air an aggressor machine.” The killer car. Before that there was a car against the killers. You will have to make the next toy more independent, right?
    MacIntyre was silent.
    “I don't blame you,” Gelsen said. - It's my fault. We are all responsible, every single one.
    Something brilliant flashed through the window in the sky.
    “That's what happens,” Gelsen said. - And all because we entrust the machine with a case for which we must answer ourselves.

    This is an excerpt from R. Sheckley's "Guardian Bird". About what can happen to artificial intelligence if it is entrusted with solving human problems. Written back in 1953.
    1. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 21 November 2020 23: 17
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      Quote: layman
      This is an excerpt from R. Sheckley's "Guardian Bird". About what can happen to artificial intelligence if it is entrusted with solving human problems. Written back in 1953.

      I remember ... I read this book with great pleasure in my youth ...
    2. Andron59 Offline Andron59
      Andron59 (Andrey Grigoryevich) 23 November 2020 09: 46
      +1
      A posh book and quote brought to the spot.
  2. passing by Offline passing by
    passing by (passing by) 21 November 2020 14: 16
    +1
    and then the Americans turned off the light ... laughing
    1. Fan tomas Offline Fan tomas
      Fan tomas (Fan Tomas) 23 November 2020 16: 22
      0
      It's your lights that are turned off all the time, and when they turn off, everything dies. And people have long been living in the 21st century
      1. passing by Offline passing by
        passing by (passing by) 23 November 2020 17: 59
        0
        that is why the quality of cellular communication in the USA is worse than in Russia, when the lights are turned off, the police hide, and the bodies are taken out of the houses? your Americans live in the last century. reserve lines are not developed in the usa, and if one substation dies, then some chicago will become a paradise for looters for a day. change the training manual.
  3. Heroes Heroes Offline Heroes Heroes
    Heroes Heroes (Sergei) 21 November 2020 15: 00
    -2
    Aha uninhabited ...... They will saw the printed loot, and then they will say that this is IMPOSSIBLE.
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 21 November 2020 15: 39
      +3
      will land like tomahawks, but by this time either the donkey or the padishah will be dead.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 November 2020 15: 47
    -1
    Oh, complete bullshit.
    In fact, they talked about the wishlist projects that have not yet begun in USA.

    But for some reason they dragged Armata here, which has nothing to do with this.

    In fact, everything is completely different ...
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  5. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 November 2020 15: 51
    +5
    judging by the words of this colonel, the islanders have not even caught up with the level of robotization of Russian Uranus, the latter was even tested in combat conditions and this speaks volumes in his favor, the fact that at the moment this robot is not particularly interesting for the army, so this is normal, because it is not yet brought to the required level of automation, but robots with AI on the battlefield are so distant prospects that this is not even worth talking about today. It remains unclear why the author concludes that there is a lag in this direction
    1. Artyom76 Offline Artyom76
      Artyom76 (Artyom Volkov) 21 November 2020 18: 35
      +2
      I support on 100%.
  6. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 21 November 2020 15: 58
    +6
    By making the turret uninhabited, Russian developers were able to reduce the number of tank crew members from four to three.

    This is not the first time I have come across this nonsense.
    T 72 crew - 3 people,
    T 80 crew - 3 people,
    T 90 crew - 3 people.
    What, all these tanks have an uninhabited tower?
    I understand that it is difficult for Breaking Defense employees to read special literature: there is a lot of bukaf, strangers are often encountered. But, at least at the level of Vicki, can you have a horizons?
    1. cmonman Offline cmonman
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) 21 November 2020 17: 49
      -3
      I understand that it is difficult for Breaking Defense employees to read special literature: there is a lot of bukaf, strangers are often encountered. But, at least at the level of Vicki, can you have a horizons?

      All claims to the author of the article - in the original not a single word about the Armata tank (although I could be mistaken with the original)
      November 9 2020.

      Meet the Future Family of Army Robot Tanks: RCV

      https://breakingdefense.com/2020/11/meet-the-armys-future-family-of-robot-tanks-rcv/

      By the way - a very interesting article with a detailed description / photo / diagrams of all three future prototypes, many of which are already being tested. So Textron's Howe & Howe provided 4 prototypes of a medium autonomous tank, Qinetiq provided the first (of 4) prototype of a light tank, etc. Very interesting models and future applications of tanks.
      1. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
        Cudgel (Dubina) 21 November 2020 19: 41
        -6
        No, this is for the marginal patriots, so that they slap their ears on their cheeks for joy, that the tank is a robot, it will not pierce Armata. That is why they pulled Armata in, they don’t roll articles without a hat, they definitely need a patriotic squeal.
    2. cmonman Offline cmonman
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) 21 November 2020 20: 18
      -3
      By the way, boriz, in the Military Review there is a review of the article that I threw off in my pre. link - I recommend reading, interesting ...!

      Consumable material. American robots in the thick of the battle

      https://topwar.ru/177228-rashodnyj-material-amerikanskie-roboty-dlja-samoj-guschi-boja.html
      1. isofat Online isofat
        isofat (isofat) 22 November 2020 22: 37
        +3


        cmonman, take a look. These civilian drones carry out the task of providing a festive mood for our population. And bad for our enemies. smile
  7. 123 Online 123
    123 (123) 21 November 2020 16: 54
    +3
    Transferring control of military equipment to AI is an extremely difficult task.

    This is primarily an ethical issue. To what extent are we ready to entrust artificial intelligence to make decisions on the use of weapons?

    a group of experts has been established to reach a consensus on what should and should not be tolerated in the development and use of autonomous weapons. (F. Mogherini February 2019)

    However, the Americans are already doing this work: over 3,5 million different images were analyzed to create the recognition algorithm. Unmanned vehicle systems are already available and are being tested on the roads.

    As far as I understand, similar work is underway in our country, they are not yet allowed on public roads, but let's say they are experiencing it on the "dedicated" sections.

    Alas, we are lagging behind again. We have not yet heard about combat robots with AI.

    It is rather difficult to judge the lag in this area because the data is classified. As for the use of AI, then .. May 2019.

    A Russian underwater drone controlled by artificial intelligence (AI) sank to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

    "Unlike the Kaiko and Nereus devices that previously worked in the area, the Vityaz device functions completely autonomously. Thanks to the use of artificial intelligence elements in the device's control system, it can independently bypass obstacles along the course, find a way out of a limited space and solve other intellectual problems. ", - said the general director of the FPI Andrey Grigoriev.

    https://topcor.ru/17459-v-borbe-s-rossijskoj-armatoj-ssha-vybrali-perspektivnyj-put.html
    1. isofat Online isofat
      isofat (isofat) 22 November 2020 22: 24
      0
      Concerning ethics. Well, what is the ethics of a prosthesis? Most likely, the developers do not bother creating human feelings on the prosthesis.

      PS For understanding - artificial legs, arms ... these are prostheses.
      1. 123 Online 123
        123 (123) 22 November 2020 22: 35
        -1
        Concerning ethics. Well, what is the ethics of a prosthesis? Most likely, the developers do not bother creating human feelings on the prosthesis.

        Artificial arms and legs are not designed for killing and even they are not trusted to independently decide whether to start or stop a movement. hi
        1. isofat Online isofat
          isofat (isofat) 22 November 2020 22: 54
          0
          The prosthesis does not hurt, and the artificial intelligence does not suffer or love. The AI ​​will be independent when it breaks. smile
  8. lieutenant Offline lieutenant
    lieutenant (Vladimir) 21 November 2020 17: 31
    +2
    and electronic warfare for what, for controlled machines
  9. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 21 November 2020 17: 50
    -11 qualifying.
    The ambitious and expensive Russian project "Armata" became obsolete even before the first prototypes of the tank with great fanfare appeared in the parade line on Red Square. The whole history of this project is a vivid illustration of the old truth - the generals think at the level of the last war. In this case, we can say that the figures from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, who were the customers of the project, do not even think in terms of the categories of military conflicts that have passed in recent decades. regions of the planet, their views remained at the level of World War II. And times have changed, there will be no more tank wedges and battles near Prokhorovka, the future belongs to small mobile robotic complexes with AI, equipped with weapons based on different physical principles. Such complexes are much cheaper than traditional tanks, more mobile, and will be able to successfully operate without a human presence directly on the battlefield, therefore, the lives of servicemen are saved - the most valuable resource of modern armies. We've all seen what happens to armored vehicles in modern combat recently in Karabakh. And the newest Russian "Armata" can be destroyed using UAV Bayraktar TB2 and IAI Harpy, just like the old T-72.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 21 November 2020 18: 50
      +3
      The arms race received another vector, so they began to develop along this path with acceleration, with the first positive results obtained ... So on new weapons, new anti-weapons, and so on ad infinitum, the races began, the laggard pays all the bills. winner ...
    2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 November 2020 18: 54
      +4
      nonsense of the gray kabily, although no, the nonsense of the Jewish IKSPERD of the Odessa spill
      1. isofat Online isofat
        isofat (isofat) 21 November 2020 19: 18
        +4
        rotkiv04There are many intelligent experts among the people of Israel. If you don't want to praise Bindyuzhnik, it is better to say that he does not correspond to the intellectual level of his people. And that Zionism is bad.
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 21 November 2020 20: 32
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: isofat
          Zionism is bad.

          Zionism is the successful outcome of the victory of the national liberation movement in the struggle against colonialism and imperialism. And if closer to the subject, then it was the Zionists who created the "Merkava", one of the best modern tanks, although the "Merkava" is already yesterday ...
          1. isofat Online isofat
            isofat (isofat) 21 November 2020 23: 34
            +7
            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            Zionism is the successful outcome of the victory of the national liberation movement ...

            And German fascism is not quite a successful result of the national liberation movement, is it?
            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 22 November 2020 15: 37
              -3
              And from whom did the German National Socialists liberate their people?
              1. isofat Online isofat
                isofat (isofat) 22 November 2020 15: 39
                +2
                And from whom did the Zionists liberate their people?
                1. Binder Offline Binder
                  Binder (Miron) 22 November 2020 15: 41
                  -4
                  First from the Ottomans, then from the British - read the story.
                  1. isofat Online isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 22 November 2020 17: 29
                    +2
                    Binder, today, what other territories are subject to your "liberation"?
                    1. Binder Offline Binder
                      Binder (Miron) 22 November 2020 18: 03
                      -3
                      Today the Israelis do not plan to liberate other territories that once belonged to our ancestors. And there it will be seen ...
                      1. isofat Online isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 22 November 2020 18: 13
                        +1
                        Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                        As of today, the Israelis are not planning to liberate other territories ...

                        Binderplease tell us what these territories are that you are not planning yet ... and then we will see.

                        Better yet, present a document confirming your exclusivity.

                        You do have confirmation of your exclusivity, right? smile
                      2. Binder Offline Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 22 November 2020 19: 03
                        -4
                        Quote: isofat
                        tell us what these territories are that you do not plan yet ... and then we will see.

                        Territory of the British Mandate, which Britain received in 1922. from the League of Nations after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, in addition to the territory of the present state of Israel, it also included the territory of present-day Jordan and part of the northwestern regions of Saudi Arabia. The British, guided by their imperial interests and playing colonial games with the Arabs, seized these lands and created the Hashemite state - what is now called Jordan. Why should Jews tolerate a foreign kingdom on their lands? I am sure that the time will come and history will inevitably correct this imperial lawlessness, and the Israelis will help her in this. I don't know anything about exclusivity.
                      3. isofat Online isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 22 November 2020 19: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                        Why should Jews tolerate a foreign kingdom on their lands?

                        May the strongest win! I'm betting on Turkey! smile
                      4. Binder Offline Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 22 November 2020 19: 32
                        -2
                        The Turks have no chance against Israel. angry
                      5. isofat Online isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 22 November 2020 19: 38
                        0
                        ... and meet the locomotive! smile
  10. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
    DeGreen 22 November 2020 10: 15
    +1
    The best tank of all times and peoples is the Oplot tank. Made in Ukraine.
  • rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 November 2020 20: 53
    +3
    What touched a living
  • DeGreen Offline DeGreen
    DeGreen 21 November 2020 19: 07
    +7
    I listen to the Ukrainian and am amazed. What are you smoking there? This is your country, every month, what kind of super duper novelties is issued. Armata was recognized throughout the world as a breakthrough tank. Well, the opinion of Ukraine and its inhabitants is of no interest to anyone.
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    2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 21 November 2020 19: 33
      -4
      In general, the British completely abandoned the construction of tanks, and they created the first tanks ... It seems Bindyuzhnik is right, Armata is already from the past and is not suitable for advanced developments ... The time of new solutions and technology is accelerating, and already 20 years is becoming a period for generations weapons, like computers, and other things ...
    3. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 22 November 2020 08: 21
      -3
      And where is this “breakthrough” of yours? How many years have passed since it was shown with a drumbeat at the parade?
      1. Mikhail Petrov Offline Mikhail Petrov
        Mikhail Petrov (Mikhail Petrov) 22 November 2020 14: 02
        -2
        A mistake again with the final product came out, as the bosses say.

        Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, who is in charge of the defense industry, said that we do not need "Armata" at all. “Well, why flood the armed forces with“ Armata ”, our T-72 are in great demand in the market, everyone takes it, in comparison with the Abrams, Leclercs and Leopards, it significantly surpasses them in price, efficiency and quality , - said Borisov when meeting with journalists. - We do not have a special need for this, these models are quite expensive in relation to the existing ones. And therefore, the Deputy Prime Minister revealed, we will modernize the existing equipment.

        Let us immediately make a reservation why we consider the statement of Yuri Borisov to be paramount. First, it is a career officer with a technical education. Secondly, in 2012-2016, he served as the first deputy head of the Russian Ministry of Defense, who oversaw new military developments. Thirdly, before that, since 1998, he worked in the Russian radio-electronic industry and took care of the "military acceptance". That is, he is one of those technical specialists, without whom the military department of the Russian Federation cannot function.
  • DeGreen Offline DeGreen
    DeGreen 21 November 2020 19: 37
    +4
    And yet, if our army is so bad, what is yours, the most powerful army in the world, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not cope with Novorossiya and will not attack us. How do your politicians want
    1. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
      Cudgel (Dubina) 22 November 2020 13: 25
      -4
      Why should the APU attack the LPNR, because LPNR is a "showcase" of the Russian World. Ukraine keeps this "showcase" so that the population of Ukraine and the whole world can see what Putin's geopolitical wishes lead to. Yes, the situation with Abkhazia is better, but not much. Everything that is under Putin's Russia degrades, collapses and becomes impoverished. Ukraine is waiting for the LDNR to finally turn into Somalia and on its knees crawl back to it. Another question, will he want to start up?
      And you, comrade DeGreen, will be in the forefront of the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, crawling and kissing the boots, so that they don't get shot. When Russia stops paying you the salary, because the money itself will not have.
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      2. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
        DeGreen 22 November 2020 23: 28
        +1
        And that is why, the whole world is full of cheap slaves from Ukraine and cheap priestesses of love. Also from Ukraine. In Europe there is a proverb, cheaper than a Ukrainian, only for nothing
        1. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
          Cudgel (Dubina) 23 November 2020 12: 44
          -3
          All right, you wrote from Switzerland or Germany about the hard life of ukrov. So you are sitting in the most, that neither is the cesspool, which is moving towards Somalia, the prospects are zero and further worse. And you know who, even in small things, is more successful than you. Give you visa-free travel, you will gallop to Europe spitting savoryly in the direction of the LDNR. You have been living in full de..me for 6 years already and your critical thinking is not enough, who you and thousands of people like you put into this de..mo. Do you have any education?
          1. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
            DeGreen 23 November 2020 13: 18
            0
            We are not Ukrainians. We are good at home
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          3. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
            DeGreen 23 November 2020 20: 04
            +1
            Cloaca is Ukraine
          4. magma Offline magma
            magma (Tatyana) 24 November 2020 09: 30
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            Quote: Cudgel
            Do you have any education?

            - asked Dubina ...

            Kisa, I wanted to ask you for a long time, as an artist of an artist: Do you know how to draw?

            laughing
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        1. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
          Cudgel (Dubina) 23 November 2020 13: 40
          -3
          You are your life in your "Somalia", imagine 10 years ahead. What awaits you, besides further impoverishment and degradation? I think that you are under 30, your youth fell on the formation of this "Somalia", which means you have not received and will not receive normal education and normal work skills.
          It is clear that more or less successful countries, and Ukraine, in comparison with your garbage dump, is the Shining Summit. So you spit at the one who is luckier than you. LDNR made a lumpen out of you, six years is a long time, you will remain a lumpen.
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  • pvlshvz Offline pvlshvz
    pvlshvz (Paul) 22 November 2020 01: 00
    +3
    The newest Russian Armats smashed the American Abrams in the steppes of Ukraine and went to Venezuela at low level to defend the oil rigs from the propin ... bandits. Somehow it will be more correct to write fairy tales.
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  • DeGreen Offline DeGreen
    DeGreen 21 November 2020 19: 05
    +2
    Author, why are you doing a fakecomet? USA abandoned this project more than two months ago
  • Cudgel Offline Cudgel
    Cudgel (Dubina) 21 November 2020 19: 36
    -8
    Tanks are robots, they will never meet with Armatha. It will not be, there was a lot of PR, even very big, and at the exit - zilch. The concept turned out to be bad, no one does tanks with crew capsules, they tried and abandoned them. It has no advantages over the T-72 (90), but it costs four times more. It's easier to upgrade the T-72. There will be no hole in the budget and there will be no more money, there is nothing to take from pensioners, there will soon be no money for the salaries of personnel, not until Armat.
    Popularity, which has no analogues in the world and that's enough.
    1. Semens Offline Semens
      Semens (Semen) 22 November 2020 21: 12
      +4
      Nick speaks for itself :)
  • armature can also be remotely
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 21 November 2020 21: 22
      +1
      remotely everything is possible (lawn mowers, tractors, trucks, combines, tanks). this is not a problem now. just some promoted, while others threw shit on the fan.
  • Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 21 November 2020 23: 29
    +3
    The Russian failure with "robots" in Syria has shown that current technologies have not matured to the level of "real" robots! Has the United States chosen a promising path? belay Maybe ... When the "true" combat robots start frolicking on the battlefield, "Armata" will "retire" in old age, having lived a difficult but productive life worthy of respect and example, surrounded by numerous droid grandchildren ... " crying !
  • Alles-51 Offline Alles-51
    Alles-51 (Alexander) 22 November 2020 01: 53
    +2
    External control without AI is highly vulnerable on the part of electronic warfare. But our big-headed i-electronics engineers also have something to think about: for example, a game with a "playing field" on real terrain ... Why not?
  • Mikhail Petrov Offline Mikhail Petrov
    Mikhail Petrov (Mikhail Petrov) 22 November 2020 13: 55
    -4
    No one has ever doubted the technical and technological superiority of the overdeveloped USA over the backward and impoverished RF. Not to mention the economic and military.
    1. reportuser Offline reportuser
      reportuser (Senya) 22 November 2020 15: 12
      +1
      There are areas where Russia lags far behind, there are areas where the Yankees are decades behind.
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  • reportuser Offline reportuser
    reportuser (Senya) 22 November 2020 15: 10
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    They have been talking about uninhabited cars in Russia for a long time (including about Armata). They have already been tested in Syria, albeit with varying degrees of success. So the Yankees are not original here. Without a developed AI or a reliable communication system, there are most likely no prospects here.
  • Kravtsov Offline Kravtsov
    Kravtsov (Michael) 22 November 2020 19: 12
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    In fact, Armata has already been tested in an unmanned version. There is also an unmanned version based on the BMP-15. So the Americans are more likely to lag behind us than we are from them.

    https://topwar.ru/172754-tank-t-14-armata-ispytali-v-bespilotnom-variante.html
  • Eh! A tank without cool guys in the crew is just an iron box!
  • Semens Offline Semens
    Semens (Semen) 22 November 2020 21: 10
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    These robots are a miracle how good the Papuses are to drive around the pampas ... Where pulsed charges from microchips and sensors will be used, only smoke will go ...
  • Andron59 Offline Andron59
    Andron59 (Andrey Grigoryevich) 23 November 2020 09: 51
    +2
    The M-113 has a height of 2,5 meters and plus boxes (tower) on the hump, what is the height of this pepelats? belay Dream grenade launcher. fellow
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  • alebas Offline alebas
    alebas (Alexey ) 23 November 2020 12: 32
    +1
    The Russian tank didn’t have 4 crew members (unlike the American one, where they couldn’t refuse the negro loader). In our tanks, "from the very beginning" - 3 people.

    Uranus 9 couldn't have had any particular "unreliable cannon". 2A72, 30-mm flocked there, put into service in 1986, that is, it has been produced for a quarter of a century, is put on "EVERYTHING!"
  • shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 24 November 2020 01: 27
    +1
    Well, well. All remote controllers easily choke on electronic warfare, the incident in Iran with the Yankee drone did not teach anything, trust the AI ​​decision to strike ... This is, frankly, a lame idea. The plot of the film Teminator did not appear from scratch.
  • bubasa Offline bubasa
    bubasa (Konstantin) 24 November 2020 17: 09
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    our robots, in particular Uranus-9, have long been tested in Syria, the Palladin robot based on the BMP-3, the Vortex robot, and the T-14 and T-90MS will be fully robotic. So what is the promising path for the United States, it's like with hypersonic missiles, laser systems, while they are developing and talking about fairy tales, even there was no moneyoff for cartoons, ours are already taking over duty ...;)