"The Russians abandoned us." What do Armenians in Yerevan think about the loss of Karabakh

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On the Russian initiative, on the night of November 9-10, Putin, Pashinyan and Aliyev signed an agreement on a ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh. According to the articles of the agreement, Yerevan returns Baku to the Aghdam, Kelbajar and Lachin regions, the Lachin corridor remains under the jurisdiction of the Russian peacekeeping forces. The Armenians qualify the outcome of the military conflict as surrender and loss of Karabakh, and many in Yerevan blame the Armenian authorities and Moscow for this.

The signing of the agreement led to protests in the Armenian capital. The demonstrators burst into the parliament building and took the podium in the conference room, demanding the continuation of hostilities in the NKR - all this was accompanied by shouts and bellicose exclamations.




A crowd of protesters gathered outside the legislative body of Armenia, expressing their views on who is to blame and what to do in the current situation.

We, our soldiers were not ready to surrender, but here in Yerevan they had already surrendered for us, but in fact the army (despite Pashinyan's words) did not support it

- said one of the protesters, hinting at the betrayal of their own military personnel by the Armenian authorities.

The soldiers are crying, nobody was ready for it

- another resident of Yerevan echoes the previous one emotionally.

Another widespread opinion among the Armenian population is the betrayal of Armenia by Russia, which, as many believe, did not come to the aid of its main allies in the Caucasus.

Russia was supposed to help Armenia in Karabakh with arms - if such assistance had been provided, we would not have been bombed with impunity by unmanned aerial vehicles during the first 15-20 days. We thought that the Russian Federation was our allies and would never abandon us, but the Russians abandoned us for the sake of their interests

- this opinion was expressed by one of those present at the rally.

Vladimir Vladimirovich, you are personally to blame for the situation in which the Armenian people find themselves now - thank you for that!

- Another protester echoes the general mood with wicked irony.

I don't see the Russian spirit here - the spirit of Azerbaijan soars here

- supposes one of the women in the crowd of dissent.

The claim against Russia is that it sells weapons to both Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Russia has always betrayed us - it was so in 15 during our massacre, the same is happening now

- this is how an elderly exalted woman put it, very negatively disposed towards both Russia and Azerbaijan.

Putin betrayed the Armenians - he did it. Just like Pashinyan, who turned out to be a weakling - they put pressure on him, as he was disliked by the Kremlin, which "drained" the Armenian Prime Minister with the hands of Turks and Azerbaijanis

- this is the opinion of a young man who accuses both Putin and Pashinyan.

However, one of the demonstrators paid tribute to Russia and its ceasefire efforts, thanks personally to Putin and holding a leaflet in front of him with words of gratitude to the Russian Federation: “Thank you Russia for peace !!! Grateful Armenian people ”.
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    1. +29
      13 November 2020 19: 37
      "Russia, get out of Armenia!" sounded not so long ago, but now, suddenly, Russia has betrayed Armenia ... Well - well. But the Armenians themselves are only ready to hold rallies, trade and hide behind the backs of the Russian guys, their enthusiasm would be open-air, and into the trenches to defend Karabakh!
      .
      1. +16
        13 November 2020 21: 27
        Quote: Yurets
        But the Armenians themselves are only ready to hold rallies, trade and hide behind the backs of Russian children,

        "The Russians abandoned us." What do Armenians in Yerevan think about the loss of Karabakh

        And leave us! Dump everything, to your Armenia!
        1. -27
          13 November 2020 23: 15
          Are you going to lay the asphalt for yourself, or plow it like an ox if the Armenians leave?
          1. +10
            14 November 2020 00: 54
            I, like that, to your "colleagues" who were registered in "batches" from 30.10 -4.11. already answered. I will not waste time on you, my dear.
            1. +1
              14 November 2020 10: 11
              God grant we will live to see the day when all Armenians, every one of them will leave Russia. There is nothing to fuss with them.
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              2. +7
                14 November 2020 18: 02
                We will not live. Rather, the Armenians will move to Russia.
              3. +2
                15 November 2020 22: 13
                They are doing us a favor, that they live in our country ... We do not need your favors ...
                1. -2
                  24 November 2020 23: 06
                  The Turks have the insolence. In your country? Are you Turkish or Russian? If a Turk, why the hell is Russia in your country?
          2. +22
            14 November 2020 03: 47
            I have never even seen an Armenian plowing like an ox ...
            1. +7
              14 November 2020 09: 57
              Counting money is very tedious. And also to make sure that the goods are sold at least in the tridoroga ... VERY tiresome ...
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          4. +9
            14 November 2020 18: 00
            Yes, somehow without Armenians managed to stack.
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        3. +2
          15 November 2020 11: 22
          Shcha, they'll knock. There are only more of them.
      2. -9
        14 November 2020 15: 32
        Russians out of Armenia

        Armenians trampled flags

        - these are the main theses of the Aliyev trolls launched into the Runet.
      3. +11
        15 November 2020 00: 41
        Remind Armenians?

        1. 0
          25 December 2020 23: 54
          As they said there in 89: only de Great Russian stupidity did not allow Armenia to become Caucasian Switzerland. So let them become - for themselves and for their!
      4. +5
        15 November 2020 18: 46
        When these "citizens" betrayed the USSR, nothing stirred for them? And now they are shouting about betrayal of Russia? You were the first to betray the USSR !!!
    2. +24
      13 November 2020 19: 43
      The same, arrrrmyane! Think three times a second before you burn the Russian Flag!
      1. -13
        14 November 2020 10: 13
        There was nothing to send the imbecile Permyakov here, so the flags would not burn on emotions. Look at them, the flag offended them. And when the Turks almost stack your planes and helicopters, they kill the ambassador, you calmly swallow it. You swallow, because you have little guts to answer them.
        1. +11
          14 November 2020 12: 42
          The Russians brought the whole of Europe to their knees more than once, Turkey fought with Russia 10 times ... name at least one victory for Turkey? Stop shedding Russian blood for you ... sort it out for yourself.
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                1. +3
                  14 November 2020 15: 04
                  SONATA 2.0LPG... What do Armenians in Yerevan think about the loss of Karabakh? Please on the topic. smile
                  1. -9
                    14 November 2020 15: 07
                    Forgive me, but why do you need this? After all, you disowned us, we Armenians are such traitors, ungrateful.
                    1. 0
                      14 November 2020 15: 14
                      Excuse me, but why do you need this? After all, you disowned us, we Russians after all such traitors, ungrateful. smile
                      1. -11
                        14 November 2020 15: 17
                        You betrayed yourself. If you don’t want to endure terrorists under your nose, endure aggressive Turkey crushing you Russians in the Caspian basin, endure slaps in the face in the form of killed military men, then endure.
                        1. +1
                          14 November 2020 15: 27
                          SONATA 2.0LPG... Only we are to blame for our success, did I understand you correctly?
                          PS Someday you will please us too, I hope so. love
                        2. -11
                          14 November 2020 15: 30
                          If you consider Turkey's breakthrough to the Caspian Sea, and the appearance of militants in Dagestan a success, then you deserve it.
                        3. +4
                          14 November 2020 15: 35
                          SONATA 2.0 LPG. Reading between the lines is a commendable skill. But sometimes you can just read what is written.
                        4. 0
                          14 November 2020 15: 37


                          Results of the "Karabakh war": what will happen to Armenia next?
                        5. +4
                          14 November 2020 16: 13
                          Quote: isofat
                          Results of the "Karabakh war": what will happen to Armenia next?

                          I gained patience and listened to the end. A kind of one-sided approach, without taking into account many factors. I think he's wasting Turkey for nothing. It is thanks to Turkey that Russia cannot prevent the previously deported population of Azerbaijan from returning to the places of their former residence, to that part of Karabakh where the peacekeepers were stationed. Either they still have their homes there, and no one will forbid them to live there. Aliyev is far from being as simple as the author of the video imagines. He will be able to feed both the Armenians who remain in Karabakh and the new settlers. I am even sure that considerable funds will be directed there. All residents of Karabakh will accept Azerbaijani citizenship. Otherwise, based on the fact that there are no state agreements between Armenia and Azerbaijan, non-citizens of Azerbaijan will have to be deported. The quantitative balance of the population will change in favor of the Azerbaijanis, and then declare at least ten referenda.
                          People who have organized such a win-win war will be perfectly able in 4 years and 6 months, six months before the expiration of the mandate of the peacekeepers, to create an environment when these same peacekeeping forces will no longer be needed. The agreement can be terminated unilaterally.
                          A military base exceeding the needs of 1960 peacekeepers will not be allowed. Moreover, not only the owner of the territory is Azerbaijan and its ally Turkey. I think the entire world community. It is about the demilitarization of Karabakh, not the establishment of a military base there.
                          Although there is a chance that Russia and Azerbaijan will be able to come to an agreement, the issue here is in the volume of preferences.
                        6. +2
                          14 November 2020 16: 43
                          Peter rybak... Thank you for your comment, I am interested in your thoughts on what is happening. Wait and see. I also do not agree with all the assessments of the author.
                        7. 0
                          15 November 2020 14: 48
                          I used to watch it, but now I don't. Always unwashed and all-knowing. That's just with the elections in America to the fullest. Having said 5 in the morning that Trump won by one wicket.
                        8. +1
                          15 November 2020 15: 10
                          I also think that more voters voted for Trump. Another thing is that the "democratic" USA does not have this very democracy. And not only in the States.

                          Interior Minister Mart Helme is the Minister of Estonia. This Estonian decided that everything is really possible for him. And he made the wrong move. He announced on Estonian radio that the US elections were rigged.

                          Then he was fired. smile
                        9. 0
                          16 November 2020 11: 41
                          He was fired on the basis of what he said lately. And yes, Helme is a Nazi.
                        10. -1
                          16 November 2020 14: 12
                          Quote: Heroes of Shipka
                          And yes, Helme is a Nazi.

                          Hero of Shipka... Mart Helme was fired after he claimed to have rigged the US elections. And that's a fact. There is no need to prove facts.

                          In Estonia, for the fact that a Nazi man is not fired from work, but is invited to work. For example, in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. smile
                      2. 0
                        15 November 2020 12: 24
                        yes so, idle curiosity, isofatushka!
                    2. +3
                      15 November 2020 22: 05
                      Shout that the Russian invaders, people of the last class, prohibit the Russian language, and then you still have the audacity to live in the Russian Federation and demand help from the Russian Federation.
                    3. 0
                      30 November 2020 13: 31
                      did you fight in Karabakh?
                  2. +1
                    15 November 2020 16: 45
                    Nobody cares what Armenians think
        2. +4
          15 November 2020 11: 25
          Yes, you answer for yourself, and we will deal with the Turks without you. All Armenians love to potryndet, but as far as business, they are not, they can hold a meeting and they can get excited, and to fight, no one ran from a huge crowd of pogromists.
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    3. -1
      13 November 2020 19: 57
      "The Russians abandoned us." What do Armenians in Yerevan think about the loss of Karabakh

      - Pashinyan possesses such composure and endurance that one is even surprised ... . - no one will take him anywhere ...
      1. +1
        15 November 2020 12: 34
        And the territorial dispute that prevents NATO membership was closed. The direct road for Armenians to NATO is now open.
        1. +1
          15 November 2020 12: 52
          And the territorial dispute that prevents NATO membership was closed. The direct road for Armenians to NATO is now open.

          - But the territorial dispute persisted to some extent ... - there are two regions of Karabakh that are not occupied by Azerbaijan ...
          - But this is not the reason ... - It's just that the United States does not need a sooooo poor territory with a sooooo poor people ... - The United States will continue to prefer Armenia itself, without any special costs from the United States ... - itself continued to harm Russia and support the United States in everything ... - But Armenia is simply not needed in NATO ... - it will have to be supported there ...
          1. +2
            15 November 2020 13: 23
            I agree, but the Armenians will never understand this. So they will shit Russia for the sake of Soros.
            1. 0
              15 November 2020 15: 08
              I agree, but the Armenians will never understand this. So they will shit Russia to please Soros

              - Well, everything depends on the very "essence" and "predestination" ... - Armenians, they are in Moscow ... - all the same Armenians ...
              - And when it is profitable and in order to please Soros ... - then this is already a pattern ...
    4. +8
      13 November 2020 20: 03
      Under pressure from the Russian Federation, Azerbaijan made big concessions on the eve of the complete defeat of Armenia in Karabakh, and if the Armenians want to continue the war, Turkey will help them, but without the Russian Federation.
      1. +10
        13 November 2020 21: 35
        I agree that Russia started cessation of hostilities too early, and the Armenians did not understand that the defeat of the Armenian forces and the collapse of the state was taking place, and therefore they are holding a meeting. It was necessary to let Azerbaijan occupy the empty Stepanakert and move closer to the borders of Armenia, then everyone realized what was happening and appreciated the peacemaking influence of Russia ...
        1. +8
          14 November 2020 10: 02
          Karabakh is a territory seized by Armenia from Azerbaijan, and is not included in the territory of the CSTO. And Azerbaijan did not even think to invade the territory of Armenia. And while the "enemy" has not invaded the territory of the CSTO, no one in the CSTO will scratch an ear. And then there's "Invaders, get out of Armenia!"
          But this is the Armenian president, and the Armenians like him! And they should like the whole situation too, it is not clear why they are holding a meeting, maybe they are just wild.
    5. +13
      13 November 2020 20: 06
      So you were the first to betray Russia !!! Vaughn does not teach them anything. Did you yourself recognize Crimea, LPR, DPR? What did Russia have to do? Send your guys to fight instead of your eagles?
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        1. +13
          13 November 2020 21: 13
          They even did not recognize Karabakh what Crimea is like.
        2. -8
          14 November 2020 03: 38
          Quote: Peter Rybak
          recognized LPR, DPR?

          LPR and DPR and Russia did not recognize, what can we demand from the Armenians?
          1. +3
            14 November 2020 14: 46
            Quote: President Recep Tayyip Erdogan
            In this city, which we had to leave in tears during the First World War, you can still find traces of Ottoman resistance. So, Jerusalem is our city, the city from us. Our first qibla to the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem.

            PS Bindyuzhnik, in my opinion you have a problem. Get on with your own business. smile
            1. -6
              14 November 2020 16: 04
              Quote: isofat
              in my opinion you have a problem.

              Erdogan has problems, we are not Armenians. laughing
              1. +2
                14 November 2020 16: 09
                Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                Erdogan has problems, we are not Armenians.

                Binder, I would not really count on the help of the USA.
                1. -4
                  14 November 2020 16: 14
                  isofat, Israelis always fight on their own, not a single American soldier has ever taken part in our wars. Well, and one more thing - though Erdogan is a Turk, he is not a complete pri ... lesson, he understands what awaits his fighter in the confrontation with the Israelis.
                  1. +3
                    14 November 2020 16: 20
                    Binder, to date, the modern army of tiny Israel is financed by the United States. Free of charge. Don't you know?
                    1. -6
                      14 November 2020 16: 31
                      Today, American aid makes up a very small portion of the Israel Defense Forces budget. In addition, it is not provided free of charge. Don't you know?
                      1. +3
                        14 November 2020 16: 51
                        BinderI am glad that you finally understand me.
          2. +5
            15 November 2020 21: 57
            So the Russian Federation does not require Armenia to go to fight for the LPNR, but after Armenia did not recognize Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, banned the Russian language in Armenia and called the Russians invaders, I do not want the Russian Federation to solve the Armenian problems.
            1. -5
              15 November 2020 22: 19
              Quote: Sapsan136
              Armenia did not recognize Crimea as part of the Russian Federation,

              Armenia just voted in the UN against the resolution condemning the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation. And your unwillingness to see Armenians in Russia smacks of frank Nazism.
              1. +2
                15 November 2020 22: 32
                And the prohibition of the Russian language in Armenia and the screams of patients with Russophobia, who called the Russians invaders, what does it smell like ?! Armenia did not recognize Crimea as a part of the Russian Federation, so if a war happens tomorrow, Armenia will not help the Russian Federation, and the Russian Federation was supposed to fight for Karabakh, which even Armenia itself does not recognize as part of Armenia. Yes, you tried Ramses there !!! And in general, after the pogroms in your countries on ethnic grounds, you generally have no right to take offense at the Russians, because you yourself acted much worse with the Russians and you are not going to repent for this and pay compensation to the victims of your titular nations !!!
                1. -4
                  15 November 2020 23: 11
                  Quote: Sapsan136
                  And the prohibition of the Russian language in Armenia

                  It is certainly the right of the Armenians themselves to decide which language to communicate in their country.
                  1. +4
                    15 November 2020 23: 24
                    Well, if they have rights, then let them have responsibilities. Russia owes nothing to a patient with Russophobia ...
                    1. -4
                      15 November 2020 23: 42
                      I have nothing to do with Zhmerinka
                      1. +1
                        16 November 2020 08: 52
                        Come on. It's not a secret for a long time that you are a Jew of Ukrainian origin with Russophobia.
      2. +3
        15 November 2020 12: 46
        Yeah, not a single Armenian since growing up. market did not go to fight for his country. Everyone is sitting, warming their backs in a warm place. And our Russian men should go instead of them to fight for foreign lands? You are completely insolent.
        RF flags were burned and trampled. Russia over there shouted slogans.
        Gathered in NATO? Go on. They are waiting for you there - they will not wait. Who helped you in difficult times? NATO, America, Europe, Macron, etc. ???? None. Armenians, nobody! And they won't help. There are no fools.
        Russia is your only historical ally. Russia gave you statehood, took it under its wing. The golden age for Armenia is the Soviet period. You have never lived as well as in Russia.
        Who is the traitor? You are traitors. Now go wherever you want.
    6. +15
      13 November 2020 20: 11
      These "allies" do not recognize Crimea as part of Russia. They need money from us, weapons for free so that our soldiers will fight for them. Let their fellow tribesmen from Russia be taken away and fight ...
    7. -3
      13 November 2020 20: 21
      The best of the Armenians? Vlad Vladimich Putin!
    8. +18
      13 November 2020 20: 56
      During these one and a half months of hostilities, has anyone seen a transport from Russia packed with representatives of the Armenian diaspora who want to fight for their native Artsakh ??? Well, at least a small group? Well, at least it wouldn’t be straight forward, but the voice of the plans, to throw all the tomatoes in the near future and go? Well, at least if you haven't seen, then you've heard of such, haven't you?
      And the guys Ryazan for some reason suddenly owe them ???
    9. Rus
      -11
      13 November 2020 21: 30
      Throw your own people do not speak about others
    10. +17
      13 November 2020 21: 51
      I think that 99% of the citizens of the Russian Federation do not care deeply what the Armenians think there. And 99% of the citizens of the Russian Federation want to send Armenians to their historical homeland.
    11. +11
      13 November 2020 22: 23
      For several years pouring mud on Russia, yelling: "wai, wai, Russia, get out". Now they are screaming that Russia has scored on them. I think Putin went against the opinion of the majority not to help Armenia and did help. In general, I do not like that our guys will be there to protect those who have spat in their direction in recent years. Armenia is not our ally, it was ready to become, not today, then tomorrow, the second Ukraine.
      1. -2
        14 November 2020 10: 12
        And Putin helped not Armenia, but Azerbaijan and Russia.
        He brought Azerbaijan out of the influence of Turkey and brought it closer to Russia. Divorced Erdrogan. That is, having the opportunity, Russia weakened Turkey in this region, and moved Azerbaijan, by the way, the former Soviet republic closer to itself, and anti-Russian sentiments in Armenia helped Russia in this.
        1. 0
          15 November 2020 18: 53
          The Azerbaijani did not withdraw the GDP. from under the Turks. He only stopped the fighting.
    12. 0
      13 November 2020 22: 31
      Who knows, our embassy is still intact? Or have you already defeated?
      1. +3
        14 November 2020 10: 13
        I don’t know about the embassy, ​​I’m waiting for news when the Armenians themselves will spoil the faces of those who shouted about the Russian occupiers.
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        2. 0
          15 November 2020 13: 01
          let them not spoil anything for them. Hypocrisy is of the highest order.
    13. +5
      13 November 2020 22: 44
      Russia did not allow Azerbaijan to liberate all of Karabakh, part of it still remained for Armenia. She stopped Azerbaijan almost before the defeat of Armenia. And Russia is bad? But when, finally, will the Armenians be satisfied with anything? Eternally aching, eternally complaining about all and all the nation.
      1. -12
        13 November 2020 23: 16
        Well, then you are white and fluffy straight.
        1. 0
          15 November 2020 14: 52
          No. Not white or fluffy. It's just that 30 years later, we all are deeply violet about the problems of mountain people!
    14. -5
      14 November 2020 02: 00
      There is some truth here. It was necessary to hold on to the Christian island in Transcaucasia. Now what? The grievances will pass, but NATO's withdrawal (Turkey is a party to the Treaty, and you can't get away from it) to the Caspian Sea took place.
      At the moment, Erdogan looks cooler than Vladimir Vladimirovich. This is what the Armenian residents noticed.
      1. +7
        14 November 2020 04: 34
        Quote: LeeSeeTsin
        It was necessary to hold on to the Christian island in Transcaucasia ..

        - an example of bulgaria to help you. as for me this island is not needed at all. the base is needed well, so it seems they pay for it. the Georgian Christian island in Batumi is rapidly reformatted. and the Armenian is the same way.
      2. -5
        14 November 2020 07: 34
        One of the few adequate comments. Most resentment is above common sense.
      3. +11
        14 November 2020 08: 18
        Turn on your head, dear. Didn't the example of the Orthodox in Bulgaria, Georgia and Ukraine teach you anything? When it was bad, they shouted - Russia help! They saved, protected, helped with what they could in development, and what?
        1. +4
          14 November 2020 14: 23
          Here, these are the most demotivating facts for a simple Russian and our rulers (so that they are empty), which completely turns us off from such help, they will still mock memory and monuments. Let them celebrate their "Day of Sorrow and Reconciliation" on May 9 (yes, that's it, they now call it), and we have "Victory Day".
      4. 0
        14 November 2020 10: 26
        Where has NATO gone? Erdogan has isolated himself for the third day, and this is not a coronavirus.
        1. -1
          14 November 2020 15: 42
          Did you dream up bitter?
      5. +8
        14 November 2020 19: 15
        Citizen Lisitsyn, or you Lisitsyan, Armenians, have been increasing their Russophobia for 15 years. Why do we need such "allies" who will surrender on the very first day?
      6. +1
        15 November 2020 14: 53
        Looking at how these "Christians" behave HERE and THERE, it is better that I (and the rest of the Russians in Russia) support the Azerbaijanis.
    15. +1
      14 November 2020 03: 50
      Karkusov croaking ...
    16. +10
      14 November 2020 05: 32
      Anecdote of the day.
      Armenians, blamed the Russian invaders! in betrayal.
      1. +1
        14 November 2020 15: 42
        Bul Bul oglu funnier
    17. +9
      14 November 2020 05: 40
      Quote: SONATA 2.0 LPG
      Are you going to lay the asphalt for yourself, or plow it like an ox if the Armenians leave?

      An Armenian laying asphalt in Russia or "plowing like an ox" (behind which counter?) Is the best anecdote from "Armenian Radio". Bravo!
      1. -8
        14 November 2020 21: 43
        Anecdote like "Russians have dignity" is even funnier.
        1. +4
          15 November 2020 13: 07
          you keep pouring slops on the Russians. and at the same time you shout "help". That's your whole being.
          Go on. Russians are bad for you. Go to the good ones. They are waiting for you everywhere, we have seen.
        2. +1
          15 November 2020 21: 49
          Since Russians are so bad, let your diasporas pack their bags and send them to their historical homeland, we will not detain you in Russia.
    18. +8
      14 November 2020 07: 57
      Of course, you can't forbid thinking. The only trouble is that before you make a claim, you need to turn on your head. Firstly, Nagorno-Karabakh is not Armenia and Russia did not agree to defend you in this case. Secondly, your Russophobia has not disappeared anywhere, but you always remember about Russia when you feel bad.
    19. -6
      14 November 2020 08: 18
      Putin must be brain dead
      1. +10
        14 November 2020 10: 28
        Many of you open their mouths to Russia, and then, like jackals, scatter through the bushes.
        1. -6
          14 November 2020 15: 41
          So Russia was sitting in the bushes while the Armenians were bombed?
          1. +3
            15 November 2020 13: 09
            you even hide under Russian names and surnames, "heroes".
          2. 0
            15 November 2020 14: 56
            Bombed Armenians in Armenia ??? AND DID IT RIGHT!
      2. -4
        14 November 2020 12: 30
        Putin is Russia ???
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    20. +9
      14 November 2020 10: 24
      Armenia is to blame for ALL troubles! What prevented the return of the Azerbaijani seven occupied regions in exchange for guarantees to Karabakh in THIRTY years !? What prevented the introduction of Russian peacekeepers into Karabakh on this basis?
      Azerbaijan agreed, and Armenia for THIRTY years thwarted all attempts to reach an agreement!
    21. +6
      14 November 2020 10: 47
      "The Russians abandoned us." What do Armenians in Yerevan think about the loss of Karabakh

      - It turns out interesting ... - Armenia itself has achieved what Nazi Germany did not even achieve (with all the power of its repressive apparatus) ... - i.e. Armenia has achieved "the status of ethnically nationally pure" ... - the status of a mono-ethnic state ... - a state where only Armenians live ...
      - - And where, at least the Russians ... - who "abandoned the Armenians" and who used to live in Armenia ???
      - Where did the Russians who previously lived in Armenia go ???
      - Yes .. the Armenians simply drove out all the Russians, or (I'm even afraid to say this ... - they simply "eliminated" the Russians) ...
      - Even in this video ... - you can see only a sea of ​​"righteously angry Armenians" and among them there is only one Russian-correspondent; who is so, to put it mildly ... not comfortable among these "civilized Armenians", that he tries to be extremely correct and tolerant ... - otherwise ... you never know what can happen ... - And look there ... - Where did the Russian film crew go ...
      - "You oops ... gave out ... -net ne gave out ... - And I, too, did not give out ... They went somewhere deliss ..." ...
      - So look later ...
      1. -7
        14 November 2020 21: 46
        Armenians are bad, then be friends with the Turks.
        1. 0
          15 November 2020 13: 12
          Russia is bad - you are friends with ........... and with whom? And not with anyone. As it turned out, there are no friends. All are bad.
        2. 0
          21 November 2020 23: 25
          What difference does it make which of these two to be friends with? And from those and from those one betrayal and meanness. Only the Turks, at least Russians from Turkey, do not survive and do not say that Russia has betrayed them (however, it is not known how Russia betrayed Armenia).
          1. -1
            24 November 2020 22: 55
            Correctly Russian Turks do not survive. They just shoot them down in planes and helicopters, and shoot them live. Madam, you just have titanium, not even iron arguments)))))))
            1. +1
              30 November 2020 06: 58
              For all the tragedy of these disasters, there is always the possibility of error. In addition, during hostilities, anything happens, even such tragedies. It happened that in some wars the military killed their own people for various unforeseen and unexpected reasons, and not because they wanted to lose the war. Well, as for the downed Russian helicopter on the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan, there are a lot of questions and ambiguities. This tragedy was unprofitable for either Azerbaijan or Turkey. But Russia and Armenia were the winners, so maybe it was all the same setup (excuse the cynicism) - to achieve some political benefits and goals with the lives of the pilots?
    22. +5
      14 November 2020 11: 32
      Yes, Russia did not seem to raise them to throw!
    23. -1
      14 November 2020 12: 11
      Because of the decisions and actions of some individual ghouls, entire peoples of different nationalities suffer !!! All the wars and suffering of nations because of these greedy corrupt ghouls !!!!
      1. +3
        14 November 2020 12: 31
        It must be more specific, otherwise your answer can be interpreted in different ways ...
    24. +10
      14 November 2020 12: 18
      Major General Stepanyan on the Armenian deserters: these are tens of thousands of people, at least 10 thousand.
      And against such a background, who among the Armenians can rightfully say that Russia has abandoned them? First you need to ask your deserters and cowards. One of whom recently killed a Russian family man in Volgograd for trifles, the other in Yekaterinburg, drunk at the wheel, became the culprit in the death of a person. And all this during the war, when Pashinyan asked Armenian volunteers to come to the rescue.
      1. -2
        14 November 2020 15: 40
        This is Fake infa weaving
    25. +10
      14 November 2020 12: 30
      Armenian cognac is no longer Armenian at all, the ares themselves in the Russian Federation will use it from chatter, since as much cognac as is sold in the Russian Federation is not produced in Armenia.

      In general, on the merits of the topic - I would be very happy, like all Russians, if all Armenians and Azerbaijanis left Russia for their historical homeland. If Russia is so bad in your words, then live there yourself and do not complain.
    26. +2
      14 November 2020 12: 33
      Quote: Alexey Maksimov_2
      and who burned our flags and portraits of Putin --- then what do you want !!!!!!!!!!

      It's simple - they wanted to drag Russia into the conflict, but it didn't work out!
      So they rage ...
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    28. +6
      14 November 2020 12: 48
      Quote: Lyuba1965_01
      But when, finally, will the Armenians be satisfied with anything? Eternally aching, eternally complaining about all and all the nation.

      I have an Armenian neighbor - I'll tell you a rare bitch and disgusting aunt. There are, of course, those among our compatriots, but when a foreigner behaves this way, I want to give him a pendal for speeding up so that he can go to his snub-nosed relatives ...
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      1. +5
        14 November 2020 14: 12
        Russia needs to install "Adrianov Val" in order to close the Caucasus, let it be there ...
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        2. +2
          14 November 2020 17: 55
          There is a natural shaft - the Caucasian ridge separating Europe from Asia ... It has operated for thousands of years, it is still valid today - to close passages along several passes ... with the filing of the United States), the countries begin to have national problems of an existential nature ... crises, now Armenia has also joined ... The donated "democracy" of Soroshov and other spills has contributed a lot, perhaps for such results it is prepared ...
      2. -3
        14 November 2020 15: 39
        Azerbaijani, how did they harm you?
    30. +7
      14 November 2020 13: 36
      Aha, here the Armenians would definitely rush to die for us if someone invaded us.
      Infa weaving.
      1. -7
        14 November 2020 15: 38
        In 1941 they fought
    31. +4
      14 November 2020 14: 29
      The Armenians themselves abandoned their country ... They scatter, choose Soros' nominees. At the same time, everyone believes that someone should feed them and fight for them ...
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    32. +1
      14 November 2020 14: 31
      Putin has not lost anything! .. Armenian politicians will once again frame their people.
      So the play goes on
      1. -4
        14 November 2020 15: 37
        Time will tell
    33. +4
      14 November 2020 15: 04
      And what did Armenia recognize Crimea? Or Abkhazia with South Ossetia? Why help us Armenia? If she recognized Crimea, then we would recognize Karabakh.
      1. -6
        14 November 2020 15: 36
        And what has Russia recognized the DNR LNR? Now, if Russia recognized then Armenia
        1. +1
          21 November 2020 23: 29
          So Russia does not ask Armenia to help the inhabitants of the LPR, unlike Armenia, which asks Russia to get involved in a war for Karabakh, which it has not recognized itself.
    34. -4
      14 November 2020 15: 35
      Betrayed or sold one of the two in question. But we can definitely say that the situation in Armenia is tense.
      1. +1
        16 November 2020 12: 34
        But that's none of our business
    35. +9
      14 November 2020 16: 15
      The Russians left them, they have to fight for the Armenians, and the Armenians will go to Russia to trade.
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    37. +2
      14 November 2020 19: 12
      In Tyrnet you can download a program that determines the location of the ai pi address. So, what's funny, almost everyone who writes all sorts of nasty things about Russia and Russians are in Armenia and Ukraine.
    38. +7
      15 November 2020 00: 02
      I believe that we must help Armenia! It is necessary to urgently mobilize all the Armenians living in Russia, form regiments and divisions from them and send them to Karabakh.
      1. +1
        16 November 2020 12: 33
        Correctly. You are a strategist. And let them fight there themselves
    39. +6
      15 November 2020 06: 52
      Independent, proud Armenia, which did not recognize Karabakh, blames Russia. What could be funnier? Maybe Armenia has become a part of Karabakh? Why didn't they recognize the republic? Why, those who so patriotically squeal about the loyal Armenian soldiers did not go to fight themselves? Is it easier to scream, away from war? Independence must be defended with arms in hand, not in the markets in Russia and not with posters of Russia-occupiers.
    40. +4
      15 November 2020 10: 08
      Frankly speaking, it is completely indifferent what the Armenians think about us. Russia has its own interests. If they coincide with the interests of Armenians, they are lucky, if they do not coincide, they are not lucky. Get used to the fact that first of all the interests of the Russian Federation, and then all the others.
      1. -1
        24 November 2020 22: 57
        Just don't bawl here now that it was in Russia's interests to allow Turkey to get closer to the Caspian Sea. I don't believe, as Stanislavsky would say.
    41. 0
      15 November 2020 16: 43
      Yes, no one cares about Yerevan and Karabakh.
    42. +2
      15 November 2020 17: 03
      To begin with, the Armenians had to recognize the independence of Karabakh, then hold a referendum and include Karabakh in Armenia. Instead of trying to be more cunning than the cunning one and shift your problems onto Russia.
    43. +2
      15 November 2020 17: 12
      Each country is always interested in and thinks about its benefits. and not about the others. Remember Armenians. This is called politics. If Russia when you insult you, you also insult its people. Never cut the branch on which you sit. Think first with your head. Read the history of your ancestors. Who saved your nation. Lived under the wing of Russia and you are still alive. and not carved and disappeared. like mammoths. the same Turkey.
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    46. +2
      15 November 2020 17: 25
      Look on YouTube as Armenians with slogans are walking through the city Russia invader, Russia out of Armenia. And after that we have to help them, Let them figure it out themselves.
    47. +3
      15 November 2020 21: 41
      Let them say thank you that the Russian Federation is still talking to them, after all the slop that the Armenians poured into the Russian Federation ... Or even the Russian occupiers and the prohibition of the Russian language ... I would not help Armenia at all after this, and now I do not want to, so that the Russian guys rake the problems of the ungrateful Armenians.
    48. +2
      15 November 2020 22: 52
      After Pashinyan came to power, Armenia became a Russian-phobic country. Russian TV channels have been banned there, Soros institutions have been opened that harm Russia, 2.000 American advisers have been invited, and pro-Russian leaders have been arrested. It is rather strange to think that Russia will defend such a country at any cost.
    49. +2
      16 November 2020 12: 32
      The wife's sister is now in Yerevan. On a business trip, on the line of children's pediatrics. The attitude towards her, as to the Russian, is seen as that of the Westerners in Ukraine. Insults from all locals. They began to complain to the head physician, and he told them: what can I do? If Russia sent troops to Karabakh and helped to fight, we would carry you in our arms. And so, you just betrayed us
    50. 0
      29 November 2020 08: 40
      And what have the Russians? Defend your land yourself !!!!!!!!!!!!
    51. 0
      27 March 2022 21: 06
      I saw those who participated in that war, on both sides, and I am sure that it is necessary to expel Western advisers and those who serve them, and then maybe you will remember who defended Armenia last time. And when the new government takes a pro-Russian position, it will be possible to talk about help. no what kind of betrayal did you want to go towards Western countries for their material assistance., They began to talk about the withdrawal of Russian troops, of course, this is not beneficial for us. but on the other hand, if you have such a short memory and you are ready to change course at any moment (that is, betray ) why should we help ......?! I don’t know, I’m not young anymore, but I see everything turns out to be not just like that, the Turks cut you almost to the root, and if it weren’t for the Russians, you could forget the Armenian nationality and then suddenly invaders and occupiers. You have to understand either you are with us or you serve rich Americans, not the USA but rich Americans………….