General Staff of Armenia: We avoided irreversible consequences in Karabakh


The ceasefire in the zone of military confrontation in Nagorno-Karabakh was undertaken very timely and proceeding from special expediency. Colonel General Onik Gasparyan, Chief of the General Staff of the Armenian troops, stated this on Wednesday, November 11, in an interview with the “Haykakan Zhamanak” (“Armenian Time”) newspaper.


According to Gasparyan, the Prime Minister of Armenia signed on November 9 a trilateral statement between Azerbaijan, Armenia and Russia, taking into account a detailed analysis of the current situation.

This decision was an absolute necessity, rejection of it could lead to irreversible consequences.

- stressed the head of the General Staff of Armenia

Meanwhile, on Wednesday, November 11, a rally was held in Yerevan, during which the representative of the opposition Dashnaktsutyun party Ishkhan Saghatelyan noted three important tasks in the matter of “saving Artsakh” now facing Armenia: the creation of the Committee for the Salvation of the Motherland, the demand for the resignation of Nikol Pashinyan's cabinet and rescue of "land sold by the government".

The police did not detain active participants in the mass event, although they issued a warning about the inadmissibility of such actions during the period of martial law. Representatives of 17 parties announced earlier about holding a rally in Freedom Square in the Armenian capital.
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  1. Hayer31 Offline Hayer31
    Hayer31 (Kashchei) 11 November 2020 16: 59
    -2
    The entire leadership betrayed the people and the army.
    Grief.
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 11 November 2020 17: 31
      +2
      and don't care about you and your leadership. what you deserve is what you have. Not for that Russia supported your Maidan against Iran and shed blood to listen to Russophobic cries.
    2. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
      Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 11 November 2020 19: 03
      +2
      Colonel-General Onik Gasparyan, Chief of the General Staff of the Armenian troops, in an interview with the “Haykakan Zhamanak” (“Armenian Time”) newspaper, what does he say?

      This decision was an absolute necessity, the rejection of it could lead to irreversible consequences.

      This is not Pashinyan and not the civilian leadership, but the chief of the General Staff is a military man who soberly evaluates the martial law.
  2. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 11 November 2020 18: 57
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    Well, the Armenians do not want reconciliation, and they are eager to fight especially who did not smell gunpowder. Apparently the lesson went wrong, they forgot how Turkey once “fondled” them, they still want to.
    If the “patriots” overthrow Nikola and withdraw from the agreement, this will untie the hands of Azerbaijan. Will it stop at Karabakh or will cut a corridor to Nakhichevan, and this may lead Armenia to the loss of statehood. Then any obligations of the Russian Federation to Armenia will become invalid due to the absence of a party to the agreement.
    Maybe they want to provoke a big war of the Russian Federation, if not with NATO, then at least with Turkey and under the guise of occupying Karabakh again, then these “patriots” should be urgently sent to a “doctor”, sorry there is no one.
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 11 November 2020 19: 28
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      The Armenians are going to overthrow Pashinyan and kill Russian peacekeepers. so it is not Russia that will fight Turkey. And Russia together with Turkey will kill Armenians! Rodents in 2008 have already shed Russian blood in South Ossetia. Ukrainians have already gone through this when they staged the massacre of the Haidamaks, but the memory of the maiden ...
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        1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
          Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 12 November 2020 04: 18
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          forgot how the "brothers" Georgians were forced to peace?
    2. Bakht Online Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 November 2020 22: 34
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      I disagree. If Armenia withdraws from the ceasefire agreement, then the presence of Russian peacekeepers in Karabakh becomes illegitimate. And Armenia is losing Karabakh completely. And even without the help of Russia. One Azerbaijani army is able to solve this problem.
      Russia's obligations under the CSTO to Armenia do not depend on the situation in Karabakh or the change of government in Armenia. Obligations remain. So there will be no "cutting through the corridor". You don't even need to talk or discuss about this.
      Until now, no one has been able to provoke a war. Not in Syria, not in Libya, not in Karabakh. Even in Ukraine they could not. Russia is not stubbornly at war. But the "partners" still bear losses.
      1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
        Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 12 November 2020 04: 08
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        when the Georgians decided to return Ossetia, stepping over the peacekeepers, Russian tanks reached Tbilisi ...
    3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
      Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 11 November 2020 23: 00
      +2
      Do you think that Turkey has a chance against Russia ?! What is this confidence based on? Just do not write to me about the second largest army in NATO, soldiers on the antediluvian Leopard-1 and M-60 are worth nothing today, and they will not fight much on frigates Oliver Perry and similar trash, especially since the Russian Federation is able to destroy any object on the territory of Turkey, and Turkey has no opportunity to shoot through the entire Russian Federation ... Azerbaijan ?! So there the lion's share of weapons from the Russian Federation and without the supply of ammunition and spare parts from the Russian Federation, it will quickly turn into rubbish ... And export samples of weapons are always inferior to the originals ..
      1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
        Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 12 November 2020 04: 01
        +1
        Have a snack! Armenians now treat Russia even worse and want the war to continue. where does Turkey and NATO ????
        1. Binder Online Binder
          Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 05: 18
          -1
          A common occurrence - in a defeated country, riots begin, a search for the guilty, massive discontent with the government, revanchist sentiments.
        2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
          Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 November 2020 08: 19
          +2
          Yes, I do not care how they treat the Russian Federation there. I don’t like the Russian Federation, let all these square little scoops, sick of Russophobia, pack their bags and roll from the Russian Federation to their non-state. The Russian Federation owes them nothing and does not owe anything, especially after their Russophobic antics and rudeness towards the Russian Federation and the Russian people, which Pashinyan and his ilk allowed themselves to.
      2. Binder Online Binder
        Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 05: 33
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        Quote: Sapsan136
        RF is able to destroy any object in Turkey

        It is sheer stupidity - striking targets on Turkish territory inevitably leads to the start of a Russia-NATO war, how can you not understand this? And hostilities in regional conflicts between the two sides are quite possible and in such actions the Turks have a high chance of winning. Russian T-72s can burn and explode no worse than the T-72s of the Armenian Armed Forces.
        1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
          Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 November 2020 08: 23
          +1
          Oh whether. At your leisure, watch the film Occupation filmed in the west, there is a great hint, for people like you, about how NATO will scatter for someone to fight there, and even more so, for Turkey, which has managed to make itself a bunch of enemies in NATO. and beyond. Whether oh ... But the Russian Federation is not Armenia. I remember Georgian drones in 2008, the Russian Air Force quickly landed ...
          1. Binder Online Binder
            Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 09: 22
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            Quote: Sapsan136
            Watch the movie Occupation at your leisure

            Movies like this for people like youlol piously believing in the ability of the Russian army.

            Quote: Sapsan136
            But the Russian Federation is not Armenia. I remember Georgian drones in 2008

            So the Turks are far from being Georgians ...
            1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
              Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 November 2020 09: 49
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              This film was filmed not for me, but for people like you, so that they think more with their heads. Neither the United States nor Germany will scatter to die under Russian missiles, defending your countries. Well, they will sip, well, they will impose sanctions and they will just sit on the priest. What's the difference between Turks and Georgians ?! That there are more Turks than Georgians ?! But for the volumetric explosion warheads in service with the Russian Federation, this is not important. Having unleashed a war with the Russian Federation, Turkey in a day will be left without military bases and warehouses, which the Russian Federation will smash with missiles, and then the Turks will simply be driven into the Stone Age. Perhaps the West will not allow the Russian Federation to take Ankara, but it certainly will not stop the defeat of the Turkish army.
              1. Binder Online Binder
                Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 10: 19
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                Quote: Sapsan136
                what is the difference between Turks and Georgians ?!

                The difference is that the Turks are warriors and the Georgians are terpily, it is no coincidence that he sings, wrote about them "Timid Georgians fled."

                Quote: Sapsan136
                defeat of the Turkish army

                I never cease to be amazed at your naivety - the Russian Federation could not cope with a handful of Chechen shepherds by military means, and here is Turkey. bully
                1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                  Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 November 2020 10: 54
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                  Well, where are the Turks warriors, whom and where did they defeat ?! Even then, the Kurds cannot be defeated. With the Greeks in Cyprus, it partly worked out only because of the US intervention on the side of Turkey, which is why Greece left NATO for several years ... You yourself believe in a handful of shepherds in Chechnya, eh ?! I've been there. Only from Ukraine in Chechnya, 50000 fought against the Russian Federation. The Mi-24 helicopters of the Russian Air Force at the Grozny airfield destroyed the military transport An-12, this is a healthy four-engine machine, if you do not know and it belonged to the Azerbaijan Air Force. Do you think he brought bananas to Chechnya? I'm not even talking about the fact that Turkey treated and trained all the militants who fought in the Caucasus against the Russian Federation, and the troops of the Turks were there too ... Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and all your vaunted NATO actively fought there against the Russian Federation. Where did the Chechen shepherds get the elephant sniper rifles of 14,5 mm caliber ?! Have you grown in the garden? Don't make anyone laugh here with your not clever statements !!!
                  1. Binder Online Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 17: 41
                    -3
                    In the 90s, I had the opportunity to communicate with the Turkish military - before Erdogan, Turkish-Israeli relations were almost allied, joint exercises were held. combat arms. Their officers are quite competent, the rank and file are decently trained and the discipline is normal. True, I saw their combat units, such as our "Golani", they said that not all of the Turkish army is at the same level.
                    1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                      Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 November 2020 18: 04
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                      I admit that the Turks have decent special forces, but ours will not yield to him, at least this time. Spetsnaz can carry out a number of successful private operations, but it is not able to win the war, and the Turkish army will not roll against the Russian army. Turkey could cope with the Romanians, or the Bulgarians, with the Greeks one-on-one is no longer a fact, and the Turks do not have no chance.
                      1. Binder Online Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 18: 16
                        -3
                        The fact that special forces units alone do not win wars is absolutely true. But that's not the point, if we look at the actions of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces in the current conflict, we will see that they were planned very professionally, and were planned by Azerbaijani officers trained by the Turks. And tactical actions on the battlefield were carried out correctly - this is also an indicator of the level of the Turkish army, according to the patterns of which the Azerbaijanis acted. So don't underestimate a potential adversary ...
                      2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 November 2020 20: 19
                        +2
                        Well, from what I've seen, the Azerbaijani army is good only against the background of the Armenian army. The Azerbaijanis perle without reconnaissance, in open areas, because of which they lost not only army assault groups, but also special forces. In general, against the background of the Russian special forces, their level is not high.
                      3. Binder Online Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 20: 24
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                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        Azerbaijanis perly without intelligence, in open areas

                        There was reconnaissance - drones tracked from the air, saw all the actions of the Armenians.

                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        In general, against the background of the Russian special forces, their level is not high.

                        Judging by the actions of the Russian MTR in the former Syria, I would not express myself so categorically.
                      4. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 November 2020 21: 01
                        +3
                        Judging by the video I saw on Anna News, Azerbaijan's intelligence service is bad, to put it mildly, and they are only fighting against the background of the Armenians. Well, the MTR is not the coolest special forces of the Russian Federation, and the training of individual special forces groups, even of one department, can be seriously different. I speak for my own. We, along the ridge of the mountain, did not openly pearls, but the Azerbaijanis were found by the Armenians and covered with artillery. Another detachment of lane on the road on armored vehicles without reconnaissance and lateral protection, naturally fell into an ambush and was destroyed. This is not the level of the unit in which I served, they are before us, as before the moon.
                      5. Binder Online Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 22: 11
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                        Military experts, who have more information than we, observing from the outside, note the high level of motivation of the Armenian fighters, multiple cases of dedication and heroism. They are not bad fighters, the command is bad and the political leadership of Armenia is below the floor. And as for the steepness of certain special forces units, what comparisons can there be - each is sharpened for its own specific tasks and is being prepared accordingly. Universal soldiers only exist in Hollywood movies. Even the pioneers from Zarnitsa did not walk on the ridge, so I have doubts that the special forces are on the video. Forward patrols and lateral security today are completely replaced by online broadcasting from drones. Well, at least in the army equipped with modern means, in the part where you served, there were definitely no such opportunities.
                      6. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 November 2020 22: 31
                        +3
                        If you remember the war of Cortez with the Indians, the latter also had motivation, but there was no weapon or preparation for successful hostilities. As for the Armenians, judging by the fact that I saw a bunch of healthy young men rampaging in Yerevan, but so not gone to the front, then there is no great motivation. The command is not just bad, it is not, and the training is very weak. Pashinyan beheaded the army with his Russophobic purges. Well, look at Anna News for yourself, I think you will be surprised. Well, the side protection drones did not replace, since 4 armored vehicles of the Azerbaijani special forces were destroyed.
                      7. Binder Online Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 23: 09
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                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        the side protection drones did not replace, since 4 armored vehicles of the Azerbaijani special forces were destroyed.

                        Everything is possible in war, anyone who has ever been under enemy fire knows. Armenians are generally a courageous people, it is no coincidence that during the war against Nazism there were outstanding military leaders, competent officers and courageous fighters among the Armenians. Cortez and the Indians are not entirely correct comparison, there was a real gap in the level of development, there is only better provision and training of Azerbaijanis, they have much greater financial opportunities, and war is a very expensive occupation.
                      8. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 15 November 2020 21: 13
                        +1
                        Armenia has one problem and its name is Pashinyan. If this misunderstanding did not suit Russophobic purges in the army and steals less, everything would be different. An army without smart officers, it's not even Indians, it's a herd of sheep. The successes of Azerbaijan, as I have already written, are successes against the background of the outright failure of Armenia. Spetsnaz, these are trained units, the elite of the army, and if it makes such gross mistakes, and more than once, it means that there is a lot of things wrong with training there. Walk along the ridge of the cliff, as the Azerbaijanis walked, well, these are tourists, not the army ... Armenia does not have sources of income for Azerbaijan, but there are other sources. Armenians are still kurkuli and are never poor, although they love to be poor.
                      9. Binder Online Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 15 November 2020 22: 11
                        -2
                        It's not about Pashinyans, Armenians have no chances against Azerbaijanis today. Who told you that there were special forces on the ridge? And what are the sources of income for the Armenians - a poor republic ...
                      10. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 15 November 2020 22: 18
                        +2
                        And what are the incomes of the Jews ?! The Armenians have the same. You have always been traders and money lenders. The point is Pashinyan, who plundered and beheaded the Armenian army with his Russophobic purges. There were special forces on the ridge and on the road, this can be judged both by documents and by common sense. Intelligence is always ahead, and these are the best.
                      11. Binder Online Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 15 November 2020 22: 28
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                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        And what are the incomes of the Jews ?! Armenians have the same. You have always been traders and money lenders.

                        Jews are scientists, plowmen and warriors, Israel is an advanced successful state with a thriving economy and a strong army, and Armenia is an impoverished republic of the former USSR. You compared something wrong. laughing

                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        judge by documents

                        What documents, who saw them? That staged video sucks.
                      12. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 15 November 2020 22: 38
                        +1
                        What, all Jews are scientists and warriors ?! Don't make me laugh. If there is a plowman among Jews, then only in Israel, outside of Israel, a physically working Jew, or an Armenian, I have never seen. But traders and usurers are a dime a dozen. The biggest scam in Russia is the Russian Lotto, also a state of emergency belonging to an Armenian .. Of course, you can continue to shout that an acquaintance of the owner of the Russian Lotto accidentally and honestly won a billion rubles, but who would believe that ?! Unless the blonde from the kitchen is even that unlikely .... Jews are smarter than Armenians, they do not rob their country like Pashinyan, who slept and saw more to steal and dump in the United States. ... laughing What do you think, if the detachment was destroyed, then no one looked at the documents of the killed soldiers ?! laughing
                      13. Binder Online Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 15 November 2020 23: 47
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                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        I have never seen.

                        If you have not seen it does not mean that there are none.

                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        What do you think, if the detachment was destroyed, then no one looked at the documents of the killed soldiers ?!

                        And what, do you have special forces on assignments with identity cards? No.
                      14. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 16 November 2020 08: 50
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                        There are also white crows, although I have never seen them. So it is with the Jew-turner. I saw a lot of turners and among them there were neither Jews nor Armenians. Well, everyone has posthumous medallions, and the tasks are different. If we are sent to destroy the government of some country, or something like that, then the documents will not be with us, and they take documents with them for an ordinary army operation, there are no secrets. And there was an open war between Karabakh and Azerbaijan, is there any point in hiding ?! In Tskhinvali, I found certificates of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and passports of Ukraine from corpses, and you say. laughing
                  2. magma Offline magma
                    magma (Tatyana) 16 November 2020 13: 54
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                    Jews - scientists, ploughmen and warriors

                    Are you sure about your nationality? smile
                  3. Binder Online Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 16 November 2020 15: 01
                    -2
                    On all 150%. good
  • Termit1309 Online Termit1309
    Termit1309 (Alexander) 12 November 2020 10: 00
    +1
    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    So the Turks are far from being Georgians ...

    Not Georgians. And you are not blakit. They are much smarter, and when they assess their strength, they do not add up to a thousand NATO aircraft and tanks. They know that they will have to fight alone. And in this situation, they will not climb. They have brains, unlike you and the lemmings.
    1. Binder Online Binder
      Binder (Miron) 12 November 2020 10: 21
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      Quote: Termit1309
      They have brains, unlike you and the lemmings.

      Who would talk about the presence of a brain.