The new version of the Russian "Shell" will be a problem for Turkish drones

November 8, 2020 15

The conflicts in Syria, Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh were a real triumph for attack drones. In the information space, increasingly began to appear news about the helplessness of the Russian "Armor" against Turkish UAVs. Moreover, such messages cannot be called unfounded.

The thing is that the Pantsir-C1 complex was originally created as a kind of "bodyguard" for the S-300 and S-400 air defense systems. These are short-range weapons, the range of targets for which does not include small-sized attack drones and loitering ammunition.

Consequently, the export Pantsiri-S1 are ineffective in modern combat conditions. However, the above-described "injustice" is called upon to correct the new C2 complexes, which are already being rearmed by Russian troops.

The second version will receive a more efficient radar and optical guidance channel. In addition, the vertical guidance angle will also increase, which will reduce the blind funnel above the battery by up to 16%.

Reducing the interception line of the new "Shell" to 200 meters will also be a problem for attack drones. After all, this is the basis of the favorite tactics of UAVs, getting as close as possible to the target.

But that's not all. The development of the third version of the "Pantsir" has already started, which will receive a more advanced surveillance system, completely eliminating a dead funnel above the car, as well as small-caliber anti-aircraft missiles to combat UAVs and small-sized hypersonic ammunition with a speed of up to Mach 5.

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Nikolaevich I

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8 November 2020 10: 41

The Pantsir-S1 complex was originally created as a kind of "bodyguard" for the S-300 and S-400 air defense systems.

This air defense system was not created for the "protection" of the S-300/400, although it was originally intended for object air defense! The role of the "security guard" of the air defense missile system was determined for him much later!
Rus

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8 November 2020 11: 37

Everything here will be so soon, if only ... In Syria, they burn them like potatoes in a frying pan
1. Ser sash
  
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  8 November 2020 12: 44
  
  Did they burn a lot?
Sergey Latyshev

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8 November 2020 12: 25

Yes, they did, they just don't see. But you still have to get there. There are videos in the internet, and it is awfully difficult to hit a radio-controlled maneuvering target.
If, during an attack, a kamikaze UAV has automatic anti-aircraft maneuvers, then it will not be easy to shoot down ...
1. Ser sash
  
  +1
  
  8 November 2020 14: 36
  
  The artillery projectile is shot down and the warhead is 20max speed.
  A 16-meter glider with a speed of 100 km / h can't?
  80% of the losses of VM aviation accounted for anti-aircraft guns, they fell like that.
  1. Petr Vladimirovich
    
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    8 November 2020 18: 55
    
    2, 4 Giga control, 5,8 telemetry + GPS, if on the machine. I turned on the jammer, the female turned on Fail Safe, gently landed, the copter crashed ... Go, pick it up ...
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov
      
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      8 November 2020 21: 37
      
      If it's so simple, why have the Armenians been running away from these drones for more than a month, would have turned on the jammer and collected Bayraktars ... Ser Sash ... so the trajectory of an artillery shell or ballistic warhead is calculated instantly and the interception is clear. Now, if it starts to maneuver according to an unknown algorithm, then excuse me, they won't catch it, and too high speeds are not even needed ...
      1. Ser sash
        
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        8 November 2020 22: 43
        
        And yes, the fact that any drone - the source of the radio signal will not help?
        
        Vladimir Tuzakov
        
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        9 November 2020 14: 02
        
        A drone will be spotted, but if it is maneuverable enough, the inertia of a high-speed destructive means is higher than that of a less-speed maneuverable one, therefore, a more maneuverable one will be able to escape. Laws of physics ...
  2. Mish
    
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    9 November 2020 07: 32
    
    Quote: Ser Sash
    The artillery projectile is shot down and the warhead is 20max speed.
    A 16-meter glider with a speed of 100 km / h can't?
    80% of the losses of VM aviation accounted for anti-aircraft guns, they fell like that.
    
    Anti-aircraft guns fired dozens of barrels, creating a continuous zone of destruction
Barmaley_2

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8 November 2020 22: 04

... well, finally, they recognized MULTIPLE and long-standing doubts about the effectiveness of the shells, their purely advertising (like the c300, by the way) inflated power, that there are really a lot of destroyed complexes, and not some "ideas of enemies" and the need for them as quickly Never did the position of hacking and disdainful attitude towards ANY enemy (and the proxy forces of a potential enemy) lead to anything good. And it's very good that they knocked on the turnips for the most part not on Russian and not on their own land, but it turns out that they got in the Russian Federation the opportunity to correct a bad situevina, consider it with little blood.
1. Ser sash
  
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  8 November 2020 22: 47
  
  Well, the score is still in favor of the Shells. Although our military also scolded him.
  Initially, a Saudi toy, the development of Shilka and Tunguska, did not seem to be particularly needed, then if they had already developed it, they decided to adopt it.
Gadley

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9 November 2020 17: 27

it was not for nothing that the military did not want to adopt these complexes, they seemed to have a presentiment of something like that.
koin.samuel

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10 November 2020 21: 47

The specialists crackled! Each ferret commentator fancies himself a specialist))))) At the same time, forgetting that not a single drone got to the base in Homiimi. Their shells and laid
Object.F7

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11 November 2020 01: 15

What does this have to do with shells if there was not a single unit in Karabakh? As for Syria, why is Seraqib now controlled by the Syrians, where have the hyped drones gone? What is the "drone victory" in Syria based on, if the Aleppo-Damascus route was under the control of the government army? For two lined shells there were more than a dozen bayraktars with anks. And since we are talking about Syria, where the "Islamic State" disappeared from the map with its army ...