The first serial Su-57 climbed into the sky after crashed a year ago

October 31 2020 29

In the Khabarovsk Territory, the first serial multifunctional fighter of the fifth generation Su-57 took off. It took off from the airfield of the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin, made a test flight and successfully landed on the runway.

In social networks, this Su-57 has already been nicknamed "the second first serial". The thing is that the pilot batch of fighters for the Russian Aerospace Forces was supposed to consist of a pair of Su-57s. But December 24, 2019 a crash occurred the first serial Su-57 during factory tests. It crashed when the engines were checked during a test flight. The test pilot was not injured and managed to eject. The plane itself belonged to the manufacturer.

After the incident, all flights of the Su-57 were terminated. The aircraft manufacturers promised to sort things out and by the end of 2020 to transfer the new first serial Su-57 to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Moreover, having specified that he will rise into the sky before the end of October. And while they keep their word.

In 2019, a contract was signed for the production of 76 Su-57 units for the Russian Aerospace Forces. The military plans to re-equip three air regiments with such fighters by 2028. However, until 2023, all production Su-57s will be equipped with engines of the first stage - AL-41F1 ("product 117"). Starting in 2023, the Su-57 should begin to install "product 30" (it does not yet have an index) - the engine of the second stage. Engaged in the development of the OKB im. A. Lyulki (branch of PJSC "UEC-UMPO") and how claim at the enterprise, on these power units the cruising speed of the fighter will be supersonic.

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31 October 2020 18: 05

Starting in 2023, the Su-57 should begin to install "product 30" (it does not yet have an index) - the second stage engine. Engaged in the development of the OKB im. A. Lyulki (a branch of PJSC "UEC-UMPO") and, according to the company, on these power units the cruising speed of the fighter will be supersonic.

This means that in the next four years the question of resuming the production of the F-22, possibly an updated, modernized version, will arise, since the F-35 will not be competitive in the sky.
1. Sergey Latyshev
  
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  31 October 2020 19: 10
  
  Funny.
  F 22 has long been announced, will not. He is redundant, he has no heart to fight ...
  And the Japanese blabbed (like, we participate, wait and buy) that YUSA is successfully developing the 6th,. (Wrote on VO)
  1. 123
    
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    31 October 2020 19: 12
    
    Funny.
    F 22 has long been announced, will not. He is redundant, he has no heart to fight ...
    
    Now it is. By 2023, it will not be redundant at all.
    
    And the Japanese blabbed (like, we participate, wait and buy) that YUSA is successfully developing the 6th,. (Wrote on VO)
    
    Yes, even the seventh, they will not have time to do anything else in three years.
    1. Cyril
      
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      31 October 2020 19: 43
      
      Now it is. By 2023 it will not be redundant at all
      
      By 2023 in the ranks, God forbid, if 10 pieces of Su-57 will be
      1. 123
        
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        31 October 2020 20: 10
        
        By 2023 in the ranks, God forbid, if 10 pieces of Su-57 will be
        
        Kholui humor? In 2023, the youngest F-22 will be 13 years old, and the oldest 26 years old. Aircraft need modernization, and this is a problem. The ruins of a highly developed civilization are not capable of producing components for this aircraft. Production will have to be rebuilt from scratch. How many of them will remain by 2023 is a big question. I guess about 10, my forecast is not worse than yours
        
        Cyril
        
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        31 October 2020 20: 42
        
        Kholui humor?
        
        You certainly do.
        
        In 2023, the youngest F-22 will be 13 years old, and the oldest 26 years old.
        
        Aircraft need modernization, and this is a problem.
        
        26 years is, of course, so terribly long :)
        
        We look:
        
        2013 - The US Air Force Command signed a contract with the American company Lockheed Martin for the modernization of F-22 Raptor fighters until 2023, the deal amounted to $ 6,9 billion, the new agreement implies the consistent modernization of combat aircraft to version Increment 3.1, and later Increment 3.2A and Increment 3.2B.
        
        2020 - The U.S. Air Force embarks on the Advanced Raptor Enhancement and Sustainment (ARES) program, the latest major update to the F-22 Raptor aircraft.
        
        As you can see, the planes are being modernized as planned, there are no problems with this.
        
        The ruins of a highly developed civilization are not capable of producing components for this aircraft.
        
        Your fantasies are getting more wonderful :)
        
        How many of them will remain by 2023 is a big question. I guess about 10
        
        by 2023, all aircraft available today will remain in service. And there are 187 serial pieces :) Why should 187 of them remain out of 2 in 10 years?)
        
        my forecast is no worse than yours
        
        You do not have a forecast, but fantasies, unfounded)
        
        My prediction is based on the official MoD plans for service to 2027 year 76 aircraft.
        
        Hope you are able to divide 76 by 7? :) Or help you?)
        
        123
        
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        31 October 2020 21: 17
        
        Young man do not flood. An article about the Su-57, savor the details about American technology in a circle of like-minded people.
        
        Hope you are able to divide 76 by 7? :) Or help you?)
        
        As for mathematics ... try multiplying the result by at least 2, because until 2023 at least two years. If you get 10 as a result, then I am ready to continue the discussion, if not, then go to the fence to glue pro-American leaflets, do not litter comments with your nonsense.
        
        Cyril
        
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        1 November 2020 04: 04
        
        Young man do not flood. Article about the Su-57
        
        We read your first comment:
        
        This means that in the next four years the question of resuming production will arise. F-22, possibly an updated, modernized version for F-35 in the sky will not be competitive.
        
        Not a word about Su-57, but F-22 and F-35 were mentioned once
        Pull the beam out of your eye first, guardian of the purity of comments.
        
        "try to multiply the result by at least 2, because until 2023 at least two years."
        
        It's just that since the beginning of the contract (May 15, 2019), a year and a half has passed, and already entered service whole xnumx fighter, one of which - well, that, "he fell" (c).
        
        So about 10 by 2023 - I'm really an optimist.
        
        However. even if we apply the data at the rate of 10 aircraft per year, then 20 versus 187 is, of course, a breakthrough :)
        
        Andrey Ostroushko
        
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        1 November 2020 03: 57
        
        You don’t guess that there may be two or three MO contracts for an initial batch of aircraft, extended in time. As was the case with the new Su-34 or Su-35.
        
        Cudgel
        
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        1 November 2020 00: 32
        
        About the remnants of a highly developed civilization that sells only natural resources and grain (we won't eat it ourselves, but we will sell it), are you talking about Putin's Russia after 20 years of his rule?
        Until we build a regiment of aircraft from the Americans, the 6th generation will fly. Take the TV off your head, comrade!
        
        123
        
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        1 November 2020 00: 39
        
        About the remnants of a highly developed civilization that sells only natural resources and grain (we won't eat it ourselves, but we will sell it), are you talking about Putin's Russia after 20 years of his rule?
        
        You could not understand what country I wrote about? Do you think Russia produced the F-22? Your nickname is perfect Suitable
        
        Until we build a regiment of aircraft from the Americans, the 6th generation will fly.
        
        You are not able to build anything, grow a grove of oaks at most
        
        Take the TV off your head, comrade!
        
        Is this a plea for help? Your comrades in the ravine eat up the horse, as soon as you finish, ask them, but for now, walk around with the TV, it's okay
        
        goncharov.62
        
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        1 November 2020 14: 48
        
        Comrade, where were you in the 90s (nineties)? Here and go! Critic of the "Putenskaya Raseya", eklmn ...
      2. Binder
        
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        31 October 2020 20: 51
        
        Quote: Cyril
        By 2023 in the ranks, God forbid, if 10 pieces of Su-57 will be
        
        You are an optimist, however. So far, only one aircraft has been able to take off for the first time in a year, and this is far from the end of work on it. It's scary to think how long it will take for Russia to produce 76 cars.
      3. Vall eremkin
        
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        31 October 2020 21: 08
        
        And the same 10 F 22.
        
        Cyril
        
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        1 November 2020 04: 04
        
        And the same 10 F-22 - what?
        
        Vall eremkin
        
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        22 November 2020 00: 50
        
        In the ranks, read the branch.
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2. Cyril
  
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  31 October 2020 19: 45
  
  for the F-35 in the sky will not be competitive.
  
  Why is that? Close air combat takes place at subsonic speed, not supersonic. The speed advantage of the Su-57 will manifest itself only in one case - if it gets away from the F-35 Then yes
  1. 123
    
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    31 October 2020 20: 13
    
    Why is that? Close-up aerial combat takes place at subsonic speed, not supersonic.
    
    The F-35 is a slow-moving, clumsy cow, in close combat it has no chance.
    
    The speed advantage of the Su-57 will manifest itself only in one case - if it runs away from the F-35 Then yes
    
    I didn't expect to hear anything else from hivi Be a batman of penguins, I think the discussion is over
    1. Cyril
      
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      31 October 2020 20: 49
      
      F-35 is a slow-moving, clumsy cow,
      
      The calculated aerodynamic overloads of the F-35A are 9ｇ, for the Su-57 this figure is 10-11 g. Well, just a huge advantage :)
      
      And if we consider that in a real battle, and not at an air show, no one maneuvers with such overloads, then the advantage is generally zero.
      
      Speed - yes, here the Su-57 is ahead. But he will need it only in case of draping :)
      
      I think the discussion is over
      
      Discussion is when opponents argue their point of view. With your argumentation, it’s not that there’s trouble - there’s none at all :) Happy
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3. Binder
  
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  31 October 2020 20: 46
  
  Quote: 123
  The F-35 in the sky will not be competitive.
  
  Smiled specifically.
  
  Quote: Cyril
  Now it is. By 2023, it will not be redundant at all.
  
  Blessed is he who believes.
  1. 123
    
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    31 October 2020 21: 33
    
    Smiled specifically.
    
    I'm glad you liked it
    Here I just read, the Naglo-Saxons with a reference to Haaretz report that your Minister of Defense Benny Gantz flew overseas to patrons, they say about the export of the F-22 ...
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2020/10/26/after-okaying-uae-f-35s-israel-asks-for-f-22-raptors-heres-why-thats-not-likely-to-fly/?sh=59f2cd05374b
    
    Do you think they are lying? Just not clear, yours or Forbes?
    
    Blessed is he who believes.
    
    Faith is somewhat different, I try to analyze and assume
    1. Binder
      
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      31 October 2020 21: 45
      
      Quote: 123
      about the export of the F-22 agreed ...
      
      F-22 and F-35 are fundamentally different machines, each of them is designed to solve its own problems. Until now, the Israelis have successfully managed without the F-22, apparently the IDF leadership decided that at this stage Israel also needs these aircraft. In any case, this has nothing to do with the first flight of the next Russian Su-57.
      1. 123
        
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        31 October 2020 22: 27
        
        F-22 and F-35 are fundamentally different machines, each of them is designed to solve its own problems.
        
        Exactly Calling the F-35 a fighter is hard for me. He may be good for his tasks, but not any fighter.
        
        Until now, the Israelis have successfully dispensed with the F-22, apparently the IDF leadership decided that at this stage Israel also needs these aircraft.
        
        Apparently, an enemy has appeared on the horizon, to counter which an F-22 is needed, it is unlikely that Iran built something like that ...
        
        In any case, this has nothing to do with the first flight of the next Russian Su-57.
        
        And with what? In my opinion, it is quite clearly written that the F-35 in its characteristics is decently inferior to the F-22 (and this is far from news), and the performance characteristics of the latter are approximately the same as that of the SU-57.
        
        Cyril
        
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        1 November 2020 04: 07
        
        Calling the F-35 a fighter is hard for me.
        
        Well, you are a notable expert in the field of aviation :)
        
        Binder
        
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        1 November 2020 06: 04
        
        Quote: 123
        The performance characteristics of the latter are similar to those of the SU-57.
        
        Yes, the Su-57 does not exist yet as a combat vehicle and it is unclear when it will actually exist. How can you compare the performance characteristics of an aircraft that has long been in service with something that does not exist?
4. Cudgel
  
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  1 November 2020 00: 29
  
  In 10 years, as many as 10 Su-57s, which have no analogues in the world, will disperse one and a half hundred F-22s! The Su-57 is 50% crude and will remain so for a long time, there is no engine, no radar, what kind of avionics is worth after the sanctions is not clear, the EPR requirements do not correspond to the 5th generation. It is necessary to redo the device.
rotkiv04

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31 October 2020 20: 47

good news, but the rate of production does not cause optimism, so these 76 pieces will be made until the end of the century in the literal sense of the word, 2028 is straight from the realm of fantasy, rather moved to the right by 10 years
bear040

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1 November 2020 10: 59

Unfortunately, when testing new technology, it rarely goes without incidents and this is the case everywhere, and not only in the Russian Federation. I wish good luck to the Su-57, its creators and pilots !!!
Rus

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2 November 2020 19: 46

Aircraft per year .... Stability is striking in its successes