How Khrushchev betrayed Russia by pardoning Nazi criminals


The myth about the so-called "Khrushchev thaw", the most important aspect of which some citizens consider "the rehabilitation of victims of Stalinist repressions", in fact, is not just 100% false. With its help, those who just represent the true scale and motives of the actions of the sinister Maizemaker who carried out a coup d'etat in 1953, are trying to hide one of the most important crimes of this arch-traitor.


Yes, Khrushchev, who clearly had as his goal the destruction of the Soviet Union and the complete dismantling of socialism as such, failed to complete his own nefarious plans. Nevertheless, it was his activity as head of the Communist Party and our state that marked the beginning of the path that led to the death of both the CPSU and the USSR. Moreover, a lot of things that he still managed to do, continue to bring evil and create problems for modern Russia. And believe me, our children and even the children of their children will come back to haunt more than once.

Where do they all come from ?!


I think many of you were surprised more than once to see on television the news or on the Internet, the Ukrainian “veterans of the OUN-UPA”, Baltic ex-SS legionaries and “forest brothers”, as well as other similar evil spirits, which, in theory, should have been lying for a long time in deep graves, and even with solid aspen stakes driven into them for reliability. However, no - they are alive, full of enthusiasm and readiness to "pass on experience" to future generations, from whose representatives they, alas, are very good at sculpting similar ghouls. Perhaps someone had a thought: "Mummers!"

Well, it would seem, where did this trash come from, because at one time all of them should have been, if not attached to a noose or leaned against a wall, then, at least, rotted in camps with some benefit for the national economy of the country, which they used to play? No, these are probably some old senile for the sake of a bribe, or simply, having completely survived from their minds, they are playing "deserved Bandera"! Well, they could not have survived, especially in such an amount! Forced to upset - as best they could. And they survived. As well as, by the way, tens of thousands of the most notorious Hitlerite executioners who appeared during the Great Patriotic War on our land with fire and sword and with might and main committed atrocities on it. And for all this we must say a huge "thank you" to Nikita Sergeevich Khrushchev, neither the bottom nor the tire, who actually freed from the bowels of the Gulag no "innocent victims", namely all the abomination mentioned above. Moreover, he subsequently created all the conditions for the most notorious traitors to the Motherland, its executioners and Nazi lackeys not only to sit until the end of their worthless days, huddled like mice in the darkest corners, but to prosper, succeed in life and make careers.

I will not dwell in this article on the well-known truth to all sane people that the real amnesty was organized in 1953 not by Khrushchev, but later Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria, who was despicably murdered by him. It was under him that 1,2 million people returned from the camps and exiles, and if we take it together with minors, then almost half a million. Yes, "political"Among those there was an absolute minimum, and even then it was mostly talkers, whose tongues in the speed of action were significantly ahead of their brains, who managed to" fly into "the most frivolous part of the formidable 58th article of the Criminal Code, 10th -" anti-Soviet propaganda and agitation. " With the enemies of the people, the head of the NKVD was not going to be alarmed.

Generally speaking, the amnesty initiated by him was, in fact, “unloading”, “cleaning” the GULAG system from “ballast”, from those who could not work efficiently, bringing benefits, but needed food, material support and medical assistance. Women are pregnant and have children, the elderly, the sick. Well, first of all, those whose terms were ridiculous because of the insignificance of their illegal acts. Beria did not let go of murderers, bandits, or hardened criminals, in spite of the ravings of liberals and the fantasies of some domestic filmmakers. It was not that man. For that massive release, by the way, Khrushchev will later “rinse” him at the disgusting XX Congress, calling it an “attempt to bribe the people”. Well, who hurts what ... So, let's dwell on the main thing - the process of reducing the number of citizens who were behind the “thorn” was not started at all by Kukuruznik. But it was he who threw open the prison gates to freedom in front of the most selective rabble.

It should be noted that a huge number of policemen, Vlasovites, other lackeys and accomplices of the occupiers, as well as various nationalist bandits accumulated in the Gulag due to the fact that, by Stalin's merciful decision in 1947, the death penalty was abolished in the Soviet Union, which would have been all of them in it's high time. Subsequently, three years later, the Generalissimo realized that he had gotten a little excited and agreed that for spies, saboteurs and traitors to the Motherland, an exceptional measure of punishment should still be preserved. As it becomes clear now, we have been in a hurry with humanism. By that time, the main and well-known traitors, like Vlasov and Krasnov, had already been pulled up. However, many of those who were soiled up to their ears in the blood of Soviet people, who served the Nazi occupiers faithfully in the Einsatzgruppen and other execution teams, guarding concentration camps and fought on their side, were still hiding from the well-deserved retribution. They will be identified and executed until the 80s of the last century, and the last unfinished Bandera and Baltic "rebels" will be wiped out from their stinking caches of the years up to the 50s - 60s.

On the other hand, Iosif Vissarionovich, most likely, proceeds from his inherent practicality - having "hung" such a bastard 25 years of hard labor, the country could derive at least some benefit from them. Who could have known that in this way many of those who had no right to life would be saved? Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of September 17, 1955 "On amnesty for Soviet citizens who collaborated with the occupiers during the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945." was born just at the suggestion of Khrushchev. As well as the decision to send "nah motherlands" to every single Nazi thugs, who at that time were still serving their sentences for military crimes committed during the Great Patriotic War.

Criminal "mercy"


It is on these two "historical events" that we will dwell, if possible, in more detail. I will not retell verbatim the Decree I mentioned above, since it is quite accessible on the Internet. I will confine myself to the most, in my opinion, its egregious provisions. So, according to this decision, not only those who, during the occupation period, were forced to serve the Germans or, for example, transport them by rail, were released from prison. No! Those who served "in the police and special German formations" (punishers) and even, moreover, in the Wehrmacht and the SS were also set free! And this was done regardless of what exactly the "term" was hanging on them - even though all the same 25 years replacing the death penalty. Yes, the document said that the amnesty "cannot be applied to punishers convicted of murder and torture" of Soviet people. But let me ask you: were there other punishers ?! Not torturing, not killing, not participating in pogroms, arson, torture and executions? For those in doubt, I can recommend a lot of literature, again quite accessible today - from the transcripts of the corresponding trials to the memoirs of former Hitler's lackeys (there are, imagine, and such).

From all these materials, it becomes extremely clear - there was not and could not be. Here's something that the Nazi invaders had established in the most beautiful way, so this is a system of "mutual responsibility" and "tying with blood" all who came to their service - no matter whether voluntarily or simply saving their own skin. Any "member of special German formations" quickly enough appeared in front of compatriots standing at the edge of the moat with a rifle in their hands. And in the back of his head the machine guns of the owners looked ... If he survived, then he killed. He treats the absolute majority of policemen equally.

Thus, completely obvious and unequivocal traitors to the Motherland, collaborators and traitors were subject to release. But if only liberation! All this trash also removed the conviction and defeat! That is, I will explain it very specifically - the scoundrels who served the Nazis and fought in the Wehrmacht and SS units became completely clean before the Soviet Law, like newborn babies! They were allowed to return to their native lands, to live in general wherever they wanted, up to the capital of the Union republics and even Moscow. How can this be explained, not something bordering on insanity, but precisely the solution that is, I personally simply cannot imagine. The text of the Decree stated that all those pardoned should "return to an honest life" and eventually "become useful members of socialist society." These are the former elders, policemen and SS men ?! Such nonsense could have been generated by an exceptionally bald Cornflower.

However, further it will be even crazier and more terrible. Again, on his initiative, the Supreme Soviet of the USSR gave the right to return to the country to every single traitor and Nazi accomplices who by that time found themselves abroad. This is what it was ?! Do not know? And I will answer: unprecedented in its impudence, cynicism and scale, a special operation to infiltrate the territory of the USSR by enemy agents. It's not a secret for anyone that such subjects, who in their irrepressible drape from the advancing Red Army were lucky enough to reach the American and British occupation zones, immediately turned out to be the objects of the closest attention of the intelligence services and other special services of our "allies", who were already starting a new war against the USSR ...

Yesterday's Nazi hangers-on was either immediately disposed of by the Yankees and the British (if deemed useless for further use), or literally recruited into the air. Here, in fact, no effort was needed - the lackeys of the "Aryans", who instantly sensed new, much more promising gentlemen in the Anglo-Saxons, begged them on their knees to attach them to the case. True, all this slack subsequently still had to be somehow transferred to the territory of the USSR, which during the Stalinist "Iron Curtain" was not so simple a matter. But Khrushchev's decree opened a direct path for all of them to a new place of service with the newly acquired curators from the ICIS and the CIA. Various historians give very different figures for the "repatriates" who took advantage of this opportunity, but only the Ukrainian Bandera members similarly returned to Ukraine (according to different, again, estimates) from 50-60 to 100 thousand individuals. Moreover, many of them subsequently made a career in party and Soviet bodies - some researchers tend to believe that the leadership of Soviet Ukraine at the beginning of "perestroika" consisted of former Bandera or collaborators, if not half, then at least a third.

Quite a real assessment, considering that one of the "killers of the USSR" and the first president of the "non-railway" Leonid Kravchuk today proudly tells that he was a "courier for the UPA". He survived and got the opportunity for career growth, of course, thanks to the Cornflower. About Ukrainian nationalists, whom Khrushchev took care of and protected, perhaps more tenderly and more reverently than his own children, the speech in this context is generally special. He began to arrange amnesties for them (at the local level) already in 1945 - so God forbid, the number of the most "frostbitten" and experienced "fighters for freedom" did not decrease. In the period 1947-48, such mass pardons were carried out three times. At the same time, he scribbled ideologically consistent reports to Moscow about the "reforging" of former nationalists, their "repentance and insight" and their transformation into almost exemplary Soviet citizens. How they actually "reformed", we actually observe today, and "in all its glory."

No less a betrayal was the decision of Khrushchev, which followed after the visit to Moscow of the Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany Konrad Adenauer, which took place in the same 1955. He, perfectly realizing that he was far from Stalin, who had never fawned over the West in his life (for there was no need for that), but a complete insignificance, ready to do anything for the sake of "establishing friendly relations", demanded to release every single one of the Germans, at that time were in the USSR as prisoners of war. And Kukuruznik fulfilled this "highest wish" immediately and with full zeal! All would be fine, but at that time in our camps there were only and exclusively occupiers who had the status of war criminals. All the rest were sent home long ago by Stalin. First, in 1946, those who were ill and incapable of useful work. Subsequently, in 1948-1950, others were released little by little. Except, I repeat, those who had court sentences for very specific atrocities committed during the Great Patriotic War on our land. Having released them in peace, Khrushchev naturally outraged the memory of all Soviet people tortured by the invaders and those who died for the liberation of our Motherland from Nazi slavery.

And, by the way, in addition to, in fact, the Germans, there were many of their allies in captivity - the same Czechs, Slovaks, Romanians, Hungarians and others. And there is no need to tell that these were "forced people" who were driven under the arms by compulsion "! Nothing like that! The vast majority of them fled to join the ranks of the Wehrmacht and the SS completely voluntarily, losing their trousers in haste. And they later blamed no less fiercely than the damned "Aryans". Well, they were pardoned, of course ... So, when today the Romanian ambassador to Moldova allows himself to broadcast about "the glorious Romanian soldiers who liberated Bessarabia from Soviet occupation in 1941," in Prague or elsewhere, they demolish monuments to our soldiers-liberators and the Ukrainian and Baltic Nazis are threatening to "march on Moscow", one should not be surprised. This is all - if not the direct descendants of those who were pardoned, then the poisonous fruits of the "cornfield" which Khrushchev "sowed" with his criminal amnesties.
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  1. Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 31 October 2020 10: 48
    -16 qualifying.
    In fact, it was under Khrushchev that the USSR was the most powerful and independent state, a real superpower.
    1. Tamara Smirnova (Tamara Smirnova) 31 October 2020 11: 01
      13
      The USSR was the most powerful and independent state, a real superpower

      - this is the legacy of Stalin. It was he who built a powerful, independent state - a superpower.
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 31 October 2020 11: 45
        -15 qualifying.
        Stalin had just begun this process, the main development fell on Khrushchev and the early Brezhnev.
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 31 October 2020 12: 15
          +9
          Did you come up with it yourself or read it where? If you read - a reference, if not difficult.
          Because it is unique. I have not heard this before.
          1. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 31 October 2020 13: 54
            -15 qualifying.
            The history of your country should be taught normally, then they would have heard.
            1. boriz Offline boriz
              boriz (boriz) 31 October 2020 14: 08
              10
              I have no doubt that someday, next time, you will please us with the story of one rifle for three in the Red Army in 1941. and blame Stalin for this.
              1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                Cyril (Kirill) 31 October 2020 14: 12
                -12 qualifying.
                will delight you with the story of one rifle for three in the Red Army in 1941. and blame Stalin for this.

                Do not attribute to me what I did not say. However, this is your favorite method, Uryashnikov, - to invent something, and then successfully "expose" your own ideas ..
        2. Valentine Offline Valentine
          Valentine (Valentin) 31 October 2020 15: 02
          +8
          Oh, so you lived with our dear Nikita Sergeevich? So tell us how people lived then, about the "Khrushchevs", and this is a big plus for him "we know, but what else did he do good to our people, maybe corn, which he was going to grow in the Red North, and by doing harm to our agriculture, forcing to plant it anywhere, instead of wheat and rye, or the reduction of the Soviet army since 1955 by 1 million people without pay, pensions and work, or the monetary reform of 300, when he denominated the ruble 1961 to 1, which led to a reduction in the cost ruble, but the rise in prices for food and consumer goods, quarreled with China, after which there was a very great tension on our borders, which led to hostilities in Damanskoye in March 10.
      2. cmonman Online cmonman
        cmonman (Garik Mokin) 31 October 2020 19: 58
        -11 qualifying.
        “..This is Stalin's legacy” - to fill the GULAG with millions of Soviet people!
        "..... this is Stalin's legacy" - to annex the Baltic States and Western Ukraine, which is why the "bandit movement" for liberation began
        “..... this is Stalin's legacy” - 42 (!) Of 8 volumes of the Nuremberg trials have been translated into Russian. Some German generals compared their activities to those of Stalin.
        And a lot of things the author Necropny conveniently didn’t sound, blaming the result on Khrushchev, but forgetting to mention the “reason”.
        1. Tamara Smirnova (Tamara Smirnova) 31 October 2020 20: 04
          +6
          "historian" svinidze will be delighted
        2. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 1 November 2020 11: 26
          +2
          ..this is Stalin's legacy ”- to fill the Gulag with millions of Soviet people!

          There were two record holders in executions, Eikhe and Khrushchev.
          Eikhe was shot, but Khrushchev was covered by the Ukrainian mafia.
    2. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 31 October 2020 11: 11
      +7
      Baby, stop writing blatant nonsense.
      I lived under Khrushchev, I managed to stand in his grain lines. And I even saw him alive.
      And I read a lot about the history of that period.
      Just read more. Google is a good thing, but it needs to be asked the right questions, and for this you need to have something in your head, otherwise Google is powerless.
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 31 October 2020 11: 45
        -13 qualifying.
        I lived under Khrushchev, I managed to stand in his grain lines. And I even saw him alive.

        Did I say that there were no problems under Khrushchev? There were. Although in any case, these problems are nothing compared to the famine under Stalin.

        However, this does not negate the fact that it was under him that the USSR was the second most influential country in the world.
      2. Vladimir Khrebtov (Vladimir Khrebtov) 1 November 2020 09: 45
        +3
        We were given a loaf of corn per person, so we went to buy bread with the whole family. Khrushch issued passports to the collective farmers, his only merit. Before that, they could not even go to the city without a mark.
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 1 November 2020 11: 35
          +3
          Khrushch issued passports to the collective farmers, his only merit.

          Also, so-so, merit. At first he made their life unbearable (after all, under him the USSR began to import grain), and then gave the opportunity to scatter. As a result, there was no one to work in the countryside. I also managed to travel around the "collective farms", and the USSR imported grain to the end.
          And now all sorts of stupid youngsters will sing to me about the greatness of Khrushchev.
          1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 1 November 2020 14: 13
            -3
            That is, under Stalin, when it came to cannibalism, the collective farmers were better off?
            1. boriz Offline boriz
              boriz (boriz) 1 November 2020 14: 33
              +2
              First, there was famine in the USSR when there were either no collective farms or they were just beginning. Two wars in a row just ended, the First World War and the Civil. During this period in the United States, people died of hunger. I wouldn't be surprised if there was cannibalism there too. It's just that their information about this is strictly closed, and people with an attitude like yours are driven from work and subjected to obstruction.

              "This country may be wrong, but this is my country."

              This is not my idea. So the genocide of the Indians (hungry and bacteriological) cannot be denied, but it is not discussed there in principle. Only here it is possible for the memory of ancestors and the history of the native country to live with impunity.
              And when the collective farms got to their feet, there was no talk of any hunger. The time before the war itself (the Great Patriotic War), collective farmers in the 60s - 70s recalled as the best in life.
              After the Second World War, it was tough, the war went through our country and no one helped, on the contrary, the same aggressors had to help. And create an atomic bomb and missiles (not to mention the rest). And the cards were canceled in 1947. (in Great Britain they were held until 1954). But by the mid-50s, the problem was removed, and life in the countryside was already getting easier. If not for Khrushch.
              1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 2 November 2020 00: 59
                -2
                First, there was famine in the USSR when there were either no collective farms or they were just beginning. Two wars in a row just ended, the First World War and the Civil.

                Undoubtedly, the first famine of 22-23 years did not affect the collective farmers. One of the reasons is surplus appropriation, well, and devastation with drought. 5 million died. Penalty in 32 for war and devastation is no longer possible. And there was no drought. Completely the fault of the leadership of the USSR. 7 million, mostly collective farmers, died. The famine of 47 claimed 1.5 million lives, mostly of collective farmers. The reasons are again in the incompetence of the Soviet leadership. In total, under Stalin more people died of hunger than in the entire previous history of the Russian state.

                Quote: boriz
                During this period, people in the United States died of hunger. I wouldn't be surprised if there was cannibalism there too. It's just that their information about this is strictly closed, and people with an attitude like yours are driven from work there and subjected to obstruction.

                The beauty of conspiracy theories is that they do not need to be proven, the information is classified, and therefore impossible to refute.

                Quote: boriz
                "This country may be wrong, but this is my country."
                This is not what I came up with.

                That is, the Germans should extol Hitler? Why are you talking so unflattering about Khrushchev then?

                Quote: boriz
                And when the collective farms got to their feet, there was no talk of any hunger.

                It is not true, they lived in poverty and hunger. The collective farmers began to eat normally only under Khrushchev.

                Quote: boriz
                And the cards were canceled in 1947. (in Great Britain they were held until 1954).

                Yes, in that year alone, there were 130 cases of cannibalism and 189 cases of corpse-eating.

                Quote: boriz
                But by the mid-50s, the problem was removed, and life in the countryside was already getting easier. If not for Khrushch.

                In the mid-50s, Khrushchev was already ruling. And you will not believe it, but urbanization is by and large a natural process and only dictators can turn it into a bloodbath. Stalin did much more for urbanization.
    3. magma Offline magma
      magma (Tatyana) 31 October 2020 12: 12
      +6
      In fact, it was under Khrushchev that the USSR was the most powerful and independent state, a real superpower.

      - in fact, Khrushch came to everything ready. The entire base (science, industry) was created under Stalin. Khrushch only wrote down all the victories of that time (space, rocketry, etc.) to himself. There would be no housing construction (Khrushchev) if Stalin had not prepared resource and production facilities.

      Yes, and mental abilities (not to mention behavior) in Khrushch, as a politician, were extremely narrow-minded. The person received a finely tuned system of government and party administration, and contrived to do it all about ... (I beg your pardon). And as a result, his own entourage carried him out of the Kremlin, "feet first."
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 31 October 2020 14: 10
        -10 qualifying.
        The entire base (science, industry) was created under Stalin. Khrushch only wrote down all the victories of that time (space, rocketry, etc.) to himself.

        Lies. The Plesetsk and Baikonur cosmodromes began to be built under Khrushchev. The R-7 rocket (the one that brought Gagarin into space) began to be developed only in 1954.

        Khrushchev did not come to an empty place, yes. But his contribution to the development of the USSR was no less than that of Stalin or Brezhnev.
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 31 October 2020 14: 39
          +8
          The R-7 rocket (the one that brought Gagarin into space) began to be developed only in 1954.

          And who and when pulled Korolev from Magadan, freed and removed his criminal record, made it possible to go about his business, sent him to Germany to deal with captured equipment, instructed the leadership of the Special Design Bureau of the Republic of Tatarstan, made him the Chief Designer and provided unlimited powers?
          You write about P-7, but there are also numbers up to 7.
          And Korolev still had to be given education and the opportunity to do his own thing.
          Did Khrushchev do it?
          Without Khrushchev, astronautics would have developed faster, since Khrushchev himself ruined the economy. We would have launched manned astronautics a little later, other tasks were more urgent. By the way, the Americans did not force it either, they only twitched after us.
          Don't you yourself understand that these are the plans and measures launched under Stalin that Khrushchev could not destroy.
          To whom would he give his "valuable" instructions, if not for the already formed rocket industry?
          You still write about the "Khrushchev", everyone laughs.
          Khrushchev could not create anything, he could only spoil what others had begun. The term "voluntarism" is about him.
          1. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 1 November 2020 05: 56
            -4
            And who and when pulled Korolev from Magadan, freed and removed his criminal record, made it possible to go about his business, sent him to Germany to deal with captured equipment, instructed the leadership of the Special Design Bureau of the Republic of Tatarstan, made him the Chief Designer and provided unlimited powers?

            And with whose consent, and when the Queen was put in a camp in this Magadan, where he almost died, was he convicted, deprived of the opportunity to do his own thing, approved of torture, as a result of which his jaw was broken? :) So ask yourself this question first - and then you can talk about something :)
            1. boriz Offline boriz
              boriz (boriz) 1 November 2020 14: 39
              +2
              You have an idea about the structure of power and about the repressions of 1937 like an average housewife.
              Plus the desire, without responding to my arguments, to come up with another one, which is based only on your deep historical ignorance and to curtail the discussion on the principle of "myself".
              Refute what I have written. And you provoke the topic of repression to discussion. This topic is too broad to discuss here with a person who is not in the subject.
              1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                Cyril (Kirill) 1 November 2020 15: 19
                -2
                You have an idea about the structure of power and about the repressions of 1937 like an average housewife.

                Yes, yes, yes, let's justify Stalin now - they say, he is not to blame for this repressive system, "the boyars are bad, but the tsar is good" :)

                You, Stalinists, simply love to attribute to Stalin personally all the achievements of his period, but when it comes to repression, you shield your idol as much as you can, reminding a snake in a frying pan.
                1. boriz Offline boriz
                  boriz (boriz) 1 November 2020 15: 56
                  +1
                  Just read "The Purification" of Suvorov. That's really who the anti-Stalinist.
                  And stop cluttering your content with empty emotions.
                  1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                    Cyril (Kirill) 2 November 2020 05: 58
                    -1
                    And stop cluttering your content with empty emotions

                    Only you have emotions here. Hysteria, or rather
        2. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 31 October 2020 14: 56
          +6
          And sometimes it is even useful to read even Wiki. Here's an article on the R-7:

          Preliminary research on the creation of an intercontinental ballistic missile began in 1950: On December 4, 1950, by the Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, a comprehensive search R&D was set on the topic H3 “Study of the prospects for the creation of various types of rocket motor vehicles with a flight range of 5-10 thousand km with a warhead mass of 1— 10 t.

          And who was the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR in 1950? tell?

          The work involved OKB-456 (V.P. Glushko), NII-885 (M.S. Ryazansky, N.A. Pilyugin), NII-3 (V.K.Shebanin), NII-4 (A.I. Sokolov), TsIAM, TsAGI (A. A. Dorodnitsyn, V. V. Struminsky), NII-6 (Vorotov), ​​NII-125 (B. P. Zhukov), NII-137 (V. A. Kostrov) and NII -504 (S. I. Karpov), NII-10 (V. I. Kuznetsov) and NII-49 (N. A. Charin), Mathematical Institute named after V.I. A.N.Steklova (M.V. Keldysh), plant number 586, etc. In carrying out the topic, a wide range of problematic, at that time, issues were investigated and ways of their solution were outlined, the fundamental possibility of creating composite ballistic missiles operating on components was proved fuel "liquid oxygen - kerosene", with a payload of 3-5 tons. A detailed selection of the rocket layout, its optimal parameters, the number of stages, initial mass, engine thrust and other characteristics was carried out.

          In 1953, a preliminary design was developed for a two-stage long-range ballistic missile weighing up to 170 tons with a detachable warhead weighing 3 tons for a range of 8 thousand km. In 1954, the preliminary design was completed.

          Only after that they began to build.
          Or, in your opinion, it was necessary to build immediately, without a project?
          And they began to build spaceports when it became clear what to launch from them.
          Or do you think that you need to build a house right away, and only then figure out how many people will live there, who they are, what are their requests?
          1. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 1 November 2020 05: 59
            -4
            1. Preliminary research is not the P-7 itself, although no one denies the importance of this work.

            2. The preliminary design of the R-7 was started in 1953 - then Stalin died.

            Whether the theoretical (precisely theoretical) foundations of Soviet rocketry were laid under Stalin - no one disputes.

            But specifically, the R-7 was created after him - which I spoke about.
            1. boriz Offline boriz
              boriz (boriz) 1 November 2020 16: 04
              +2
              You wrote nonsense and do not want to understand it yourself.
              From the pre-war years, Stalin paid attention to rocket technology, when Khrushchev shot only competitors in the struggle for power. From 1945 until his death, he moved this program. And Khrushchev suddenly in 1954. came and started building? What did he do that? He simply did not forbid people to work further, who organized a noisy cover for his enchanting failures in everything else.
              Manned astronautics, at that time, was really not needed. Excessive diversion of resources from a country with a crumbling economy and agriculture. It was necessary to distract the people with at least some positive.
  2. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 31 October 2020 11: 03
    +7
    All Khrushchev's activities before 01.05.1960/XNUMX/XNUMX. was aimed at weakening the USSR. When he realized that the West had ditched him stupidly, it was too late.
    But, even realizing this, Khrushev, due to stupidity, did not stop the reform of 1961, although he could still.
    Khrushchev became the first in a row: Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Hussein, Milosevic, Gaddafi ...
    The role of Khrushchev in the collapse of the USSR is greater than that of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, they have just completed the process.
    Amnesty for Bandera and other Nazis is not Khrushchev's worst crime.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 31 October 2020 13: 51
      +2
      Although, to be completely precise, Hitler was the first among those thrown and divorced by the West.
    2. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 31 October 2020 16: 22
      +4
      One of the most terrible crimes of Nikita was the execution lists of innocent citizens of the USSR according to the order, then, in 1936-38 in Moscow and the Moscow region, they seized everyone in a row for the slightest offense. And those, stipulating, "pulled" along and his friends and acquaintances, and Nikita, who was at that time the first secretary of the Moscow City Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, always exceeded the plan for these lists, and from 1935 to 1937 he was responsible for more than a dozen thousand innocently ruined lives ... That is why he, after Stalin's death, in 1956, at the 20th party congress, and attributed to him the "cult of personality", envying him for the people's love for the leader, accusing him of all mortal sins.
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 31 October 2020 16: 29
        +2
        Who can argue!
        It's just that we are discussing the post-Stalin period here.
      2. Natan bruk Online Natan bruk
        Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 2 November 2020 12: 01
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        Yes, Stalin knew nothing about mass executions, everyone deceived him, because he was very naive. Whatever you say to him, he believes in everything ...
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  4. bear040 Offline bear040
    bear040 1 November 2020 11: 05
    +6
    Khrushchev, together with Mekhlis and Kulik, had to be shot even during the Second World War, since against their background General Pavlov is generally an innocent character ...
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 1 November 2020 11: 45
      +1
      He should have been shot along with Eikhe. One field of berries.
      And you underestimate Pavlov.
  5. Magistr Offline Magistr
    Magistr (Valery) 1 November 2020 15: 22
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    I read this thread. Who is better - Stalin or Khrushchev? Empty dispute. Since the October coup, Russia's history has taken a path of brutal social experimentation with tens of millions of victims. Each of the leaders needs to be assessed separately. And there is more than enough such literature - including on the Web.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 1 November 2020 16: 17
      +2
      And there is more than enough such literature - including on the Web.

      But it is all multidirectional. So people are arguing.
  6. King3214 Offline King3214
    King3214 (Sergius) 1 November 2020 18: 25
    +2
    It was the Ukrainian Khrushchev who broke the foundation on which the Soviet Union stood.
    After his "leadership" the death of the USSR was a matter of time.
    The most vile type in the history of Russia.
  7. Ivancarafuto Offline Ivancarafuto
    Ivancarafuto (Ivan) 1 November 2020 19: 59
    +1
    Khrushchev, Gorbachev did not betray the country, they betrayed the people ..... They betrayed the blood of Russian soldiers shed for Russia.
  8. Duc Nikita started to do it with a glass of vodka - why should you take it from him?