Asia Times: Turkey is a bigger enemy for Russia than the United States


Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan has every chance of being removed from power in the event of the fall of Nagorno-Karabakh. This opinion is expressed in the pages of the Hong Kong Asia Times.


It was emphasized that although the Russian electronic warfare systems began to successfully fight Turkish-made combat drones, the situation at the front had already gone too far. The key road linking Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia proper is about to be cut.

If Stepanakert is isolated, the Armenian forces will be trapped with no way to get supplies or reinforcements.

- noted in the text.

It is not entirely clear, the newspaper continues, whether the surrender of Stepanakert, if any, will lead to the complete collapse of Nagorno-Karabakh. But it is likely that the Armenians living there, totaling up to 150 people, are likely to be expelled from this territory to Armenia itself.

The Russian military presence in the immediate Armenian territory is very significant. Although the Russians do not directly participate in hostilities on the territory of Karabakh, the article of the Hong Kong electronic resource does not exclude that the Russian base in Gyumri may be directly attacked by the military of Turkey itself, in the event of an escalation of the regional conflict.

[...] today Turkey is a much more serious enemy for Russia than the United States or [the rest of] NATO

- asserted in the analysis of the situation from Asia Times.

The text notes that Moscow faces a difficult choice today. Either Armenia admits defeat and makes concessions, or the war becomes protracted. In the second case, a powerful increase in Turkey's influence is expected in Azerbaijan, which will bring with it much more Islamism and militarism than there is now.

Thus, Azerbaijan could serve as a reference point for the destabilization of the Caucasus and the strengthening of separatist Islamist movements in Russia.

- writes the edition.

The Asia Times article also claims that in order to have the right to vote in the event of Azerbaijan's victory, Russia has only one option - to persuade the Armenian authorities to make a deal. But incumbent Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan will almost certainly not dare to make concessions, and for this reason it is difficult to expect that he will continue in office if the Russians have a strong say.

Although for the most part the war did not reach the territory of Armenia itself, this cannot be ruled out if the situation continues to deteriorate. Consequently, the likelihood of the overthrow of the Armenian regime in the near future will only increase.

- sums up the publication.
  • Photos used: Turkish Defense Ministry
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  1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
    Many_ways_point 30 October 2020 11: 26
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    Bigger, smaller, it's all water. The USA is a completely different weight category, they are orders of magnitude stronger, to fight with them is madness. But Turkey is more or less equal, if not now then in the next 5-10 years for sure, so it is a real enemy, unlike the United States.
  2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 11: 55
    +2
    I would say that Turkey is Russia's historical enemy, but not as dangerous as the United States. If the USA can destroy the Russian Federation only by going to the bank, regardless of their own losses, by engaging in a hopeless battle in which there will be no winners, but as for me, such a battle is better than surrender to the Yankees and the death of the Russian Federation on their terms, in one gate ... Then Turkey has a lot of show-offs, a large, but weakly armed army, and it will not be much more difficult for the Russian Federation to defeat Turkey than Georgia in 2008. Russia can shoot through the entire territory of Turkey with its missiles, destroying Turkish airfields, military bases, ports, warehouses with weapons, ammunition, fuels and lubricants, medicines and food, driving Turkey into the Stone Age, then Turkey cannot answer the Russian Federation in a similar way today. Relations with NATO are bursting at the seams and even the United States today announced that it would not support Turkey's imperial ambitions and, if anything, would side with the Greeks against the Turks. France and Saudi Arabia are also anti-Turkish ... In general, today Turkey has more enemies than Turkey's friends and friends. The armed forces of the same Azerbaijan are significantly inferior to such countries as France or Saudi Arabia, and Azerbaijan can hardly win the war with Iran.
    1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
      Many_ways_point 30 October 2020 12: 07
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      Crazy delirium. The United States can destroy the Russian Federation without any harm to itself. The budget of the Russian Federation is 50-60% of the income from the sale of resources or their derivatives. Then we simply dump on the resource market and the Russian Federation ceases to exist in 1-2 years.
      Turkey is a real enemy. It's not worth trying with the USA.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 12: 11
        +3
        Blessed is he who believes. Hitler also called Russia `` Colossus with feet of clay '' before him, Napoleon, Karl-12, Frederick the Great, who were considered the best generals of their time ... And where are they now ?! So the United States will be in the same place ... The United States has already imposed sanctions on Japan and received Pearl Harbor ... Now imagine that Japan in 1941 has 30000 tactical nuclear warheads and another 3000 strategic ones ... What remains of the United States? ! That's right, one big Chernobyl ... even worse ...
        1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
          Many_ways_point 30 October 2020 12: 14
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          We don't have a history lesson at school. In fact, are there any objections to the fact that the United States can economically defeat Russia?
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 12: 16
            +2
            They cannot, because the United States is another enraged empire that wants to rule the World, and the lot of all such empires is to send them to the dustbin of history.
            1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
              Many_ways_point 30 October 2020 12: 19
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              How does this cancel the critical resource dependence of the RF budget?
              1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 12: 40
                +4
                The life of the majors is canceled, or their residence in the Russian Federation with the squeezing of resources from the Russian Federation. the existence of the Russian Federation and the people is not canceled. Personally, nothing falls into my pocket from oil and gas production, and neither does most citizens. Iran and others live and nothing and the more such countries, the faster the end of the United States
                1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                  Many_ways_point 30 October 2020 12: 57
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                  Silly, you personally will also become poorer by 2 times. Nobody canceled the currency board rule.
                  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 13: 08
                    +2
                    Do not worry about me, even if I become impoverished by half, I will not starve to death, this time. Even if oil costs $ 1000 per barrel, I won't live richer, so I have to pay for this, that's two.
                    1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                      Many_ways_point 30 October 2020 13: 10
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                      And I don’t worry. But for the Russian Federation it will have the strongest consequences without any war.
                      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 13: 11
                        +3
                        And for the United States, this will have the strongest consequences, since the Russian Federation will no longer reckon with any agreements previously signed with the United States and NATO, since they will no longer make sense for the Russian Federation.
                      2. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                        Many_ways_point 30 October 2020 15: 14
                        -1
                        For God's sake. If you want to scare a hedgehog with your bare booty - your right. The INF Treaty is already history. START 3 will soon become her. What's next?
                      3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 16: 39
                        +4
                        And then North Korea, which already has missiles capable of spreading a dozen US states to a bad mother, or you can help Iran get no worse and let's see who is a hedgehog and who is a bare ass! Agreements with the United States were initially unprofitable for Russia, so there are none and the sadness is not great
                      4. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                        Many_ways_point 30 October 2020 19: 21
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                        And then North Korea, which already has missiles capable of spreading a dozen US states to a bad mother, or you can help Iran get no worse and let's see who is a hedgehog and who is a bare ass! Agreements with the United States were initially unprofitable for Russia, so there are none and the sadness is not great]



                        Scare further the hedgehog laughing
                      5. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 31 October 2020 23: 04
                        +4
                        It's just that the role of the priests and the hedgehog is changing today. If earlier the sending of aircraft-carrying troughs to the United States inspired many in awe, today neither China nor even North Korea is afraid of them, ready even today to erase at least half of the United States into radioactive ash, and the rest will become uninhabitable.
    2. Binder Online Binder
      Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 16: 46
      -2
      Like going to the dustbin of Soviet history? But the show-offs were grandiose ...
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 16: 56
        +2
        The USSR went to the dump through the fault of Gorbachev and the company, and not because the USSR could not live without American diapers.
        1. Binder Online Binder
          Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 17: 13
          -6
          The USSR was doomed from the outset by the course of the historical process, long before the birth of Misha Gorbachev. negative
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 17: 14
            +3
            wassat These are just your drunken fantasies, nothing more.
            1. Binder Online Binder
              Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 17: 20
              -5
              No, my dear, this is just an elementary knowledge of history and the ability to think. hi
              1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 18: 18
                +5
                No, this is not the ability to think, but an attempt by the Russophobe to pass off the desired as reality.
      2. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 30 October 2020 21: 17
        +2
        Like going to the dustbin of Soviet history? But the show-offs were grandiose ...

        Now the states are showing off laughing Maybe their turn has come? repeat
        1. Binder Online Binder
          Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 22: 11
          -7
          The states do not show off - they really the most powerful state on the globe, whether someone likes it or not.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 30 October 2020 22: 28
            +3
            The states do not show off - they are really the most powerful state on the globe, whether someone likes it or not.

            The United States is a flabby education mired in strife and corruption. Whether you like it or not, they are rotten through and through. True, by inertia, they continue to puff out their cheeks and no more.
            1. Binder Online Binder
              Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 22: 33
              -3
              You are free to make your own inferences, although they are 150% wrong.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 30 October 2020 22: 58
                +2
                You are free to make your own inferences, although they are 150% wrong.

                It's over, however, as are you. But I believe that there is no more than 100%. I believe my reasoning is closer to reality.
  • Binder Online Binder
    Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 16: 52
    -4
    Quote: Sapsan136
    it will not be much more difficult to defeat Turkey for the Russian Federation than Georgia in 2008

    Russia and the small gang of Chechen shepherds could not overcome - it pays tribute to them, and you broadcast about an easy victory over the second largest army of NATO. Are you quite adequate? fool
    1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
      Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 17: 00
      +5
      Whether oh ... You have already been written many times that there are many subsidized regions in the Russian Federation and you will be so worried that the Russian Federation and the Chukchi pays tribute to the Yakuts ... The size of the army is now nothing, the main weapons. Russia can roll out the whole of Turkey with missile strikes without sending a single infantryman to Turkey, and Turkey has no opportunity to inflict similar damage to the Russian Federation ... And by the way, the Russian Federation took Grozny twice, despite the fact that it was not a handful of shepherds who fought against the Russian Federation in Chechnya, a: Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Turkey, Azerbaijan and NATO ...
      1. Binder Online Binder
        Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 17: 18
        -4
        Just don't talk here about the fact that Chechnya is one of the usual subsidized regions of the Russian Federation. And the reasoning that

        Quote: Sapsan136
        Russia can roll missile strikes all over Turkey without sending a single infantryman to Turkey

        they immediately demonstrate that you not only sounded from the army at one time, but even in childhood did not shoot from a slingshot, you see, my mother was strict, she punished specifically. You sit, give out complete nonsense and do not blush. fool
        1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
          Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 18: 20
          +2
          Jew laughing ychik, I am the one who stepped over the dead Bandera and Basmachi not only in Chechnya, but also in Tskhinvali and the Donbass, so go cook matzo, you will look smarter.
          1. Binder Online Binder
            Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 18: 27
            -3
            You can only brag while sitting on the couch.
            1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
              Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 October 2020 18: 37
              0
              And what can you do, besides the Russophobic, crying of Yaroslavna; ''?
              1. Binder Online Binder
                Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 18: 53
                -3
                And why did you decide that I am a Russophobe, where did you find at least half a word of negative about the Russian people? You are here trying to offend me on ethnic grounds, apparently, being rude in virtual is the norm for you. But I will keep silent about my skills and combat experience - it's not good to brag. stop
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 30 October 2020 21: 26
      0
      Russia and the small gang of Chechen shepherds could not overcome - it pays tribute to them, and you broadcast about an easy victory over the second largest army of NATO. Are you quite adequate?

      Would you be more careful with your words winked those whom you call bandits are not far from you, they drive the Basmachs. It’s not even the hour Romzan will get angry, they will come to visit, they will hang all sorts of binders on cypress trees along the roads repeat It's not your neighbors' Arabs with slingshots to drive laughing Girls from Tsakhal are not a barrier to them sad
      1. Binder Online Binder
        Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 22: 08
        -3
        You have Chechens in the Russian Federation - great warriors and mighty heroes, but here they are just regular Muslims who were beaten by the IDF, beaten and will hit in the tail and in the mane if they dare to cut a jamb. wassat
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 30 October 2020 22: 25
          +3
          When did you beat the Chechens? belay You have never fought with a serious enemy. request Chasing Bedouins and fighting serious people are two big differences. hi In which case the girls from the Tsakhal will go to the harem, the rest ... think for yourself.
          1. Binder Online Binder
            Binder (Miron) 30 October 2020 22: 31
            -3
            Allah showed mercy to the Chechens - they really did not fight the Jews, otherwise they would have received in full. angry And keep your sweet fantasies to yourself.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 30 October 2020 22: 53
              +2
              Allah showed mercy to the Chechens - they really did not fight the Jews, otherwise they would have received in full. angry And keep your sweet fantasies to yourself.

              Of course, of course, all terminators in absentia laughing The boots of Russian soldiers trampled on many, Swedes, Germans, French, Turks, Japanese, there is something to compare with. The Chechens have always been a difficult enemy, and this cannot be taken away from them. When will there be something to declare about the victories of Israeli weapons over someone other than the Bedouins, write we will definitely discuss yes Good luck on the coming battlefield drinks
              1. Binder Online Binder
                Binder (Miron) 31 October 2020 05: 25
                -1
                Quote: 123
                When will there be something to declare about the victories of Israeli weapons over someone other than the Bedouins

                I will tell you a state secret: Israel is not at war with the Bedouins, moreover, many Bedouins serve in the IDF and other power structures of Israel, attain high military ranks. bully
        2. Alles-51 Offline Alles-51
          Alles-51 (Alexander) 31 October 2020 19: 02
          +1
          Myron! Well, why in front of people with ... lie! Chechen SPECIALLY even the Persian padishahs called all sorts of guards!
          1. Binder Online Binder
            Binder (Miron) 31 October 2020 20: 25
            -1
            Somehow, in my eyes, the padishah is not an authority in these matters. You will also remember Ibrahim from the novel "Gloomy River" lol ... In addition, personal protection and war are different areas of activity.
  • Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 October 2020 12: 15
    0
    Hong Kong? Anglo-Chinese?

    These are the experts .....
  • _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
    _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 31 October 2020 13: 28
    +2
    Bindyushnik is a Banderite, speaking on behalf of someone else ... for what? the logic is clear
    1. Alles-51 Offline Alles-51
      Alles-51 (Alexander) 31 October 2020 18: 56
      -2
      1. ... bindyUZHnik ... (by the way, this nickname is just the name of a professional, a PORT loader. These guys had a hard job, to carry bales, almost everything, as my grandma told me, went with their backs torn off at 19 - early. 20th centuries). So ... out of place you uv. "AMEN_AMEN" ...
  • Alles-51 Offline Alles-51
    Alles-51 (Alexander) 31 October 2020 18: 45
    -2
    All truth is reflected in the title! Exactly!