Satanovsky about the war in Karabakh: Russia itself raised and fed the enemy


According to the Russian orientalist and economist, President of the Institute of the Middle East Yevgeny Satanovsky, Moscow is largely to blame for Ankara's implementation of its expansionist plans in the Caucasus region - Russia has long connived with Erdogan and allows him to dictate its terms.


So, after the statement of the Minsk Group on Nagorno-Karabakh, it was not the head of Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev, who responded, but the Turkish president - he rejected the group's proposals on a ceasefire and the start of negotiations between the conflicting parties. France and the United States have virtually nothing to oppose Turkey. But what should Russia do? Should the Russian Federation calmly observe the intervention of the Turks in the military conflict on the territory of the former Soviet Union? What will happen next - Kazakhstan, Central Asia, Tatarstan and Bashkiria?

The old enemy has risen - the Ottoman Porta in a new guise. On our own money, on our gas, oil, greed and carelessness. We nurtured him and brought up in him a sense of absolute impunity

- the expert notes in his Telegram channel.

Satanovsky indignantly emphasizes that Erdogan gets away with everything - the murder of both the ambassador and the Russian pilot. For the sake of preserving their own country, the Russian authorities must "shorten the new sultan" and not let him into the Caucasus and further into Asia.

Erdogan drew a line under diplomacy. Does he want war? So, maybe, finally, go to meet him? It's high time ...

- suggested Satanovsky.
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  1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
    Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 2 October 2020 15: 20
    -2
    Lenin began to feed the sultans. what were Russian provinces on Russian bayonets eventually became mono-national Soviet republics in exchange for donated parts of the Russian empire. And people like General Ermolov would solve their interethnic disputes ...
    1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
      Observer2014 2 October 2020 15: 53
      -1
      Quote: Sergey Tokarev
      Lenin began to feed the sultans. what were Russian provinces on Russian bayonets eventually became mono-national Soviet republics in exchange for donated parts of the Russian empire. And people like General Ermolov would solve their interethnic disputes ...

      They are exactly like General Ermolov. Well, nothing. Such as General Yermolov are waiting in the wings. Now the Armenians and the Pashinyans will get something. And there will be generals Yermolovs. yes
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 3 October 2020 01: 12
        -1
        Quote: Observer2014
        And there will be generals Yermolovs

        Where will they come from in today's Russia? There are now more and more generals like Shoigu and Medvedev, who have not served in the army for a day ...
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 3 October 2020 21: 17
          -1
          So in the whole world, so in Russia there is a cry: Jews of all sides. unite !, there the Medvedevs and the Mishustins, and the Shoigu and the laurel, fit in ... In such a set of yarmolovs there simply does not exist ...
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 3 October 2020 21: 31
            0
            What relation do the gentlemen you listed have to the Jews? Especially interesting is the connection of S.K. Shoigu with the Jewish people, if he is a Jew, then only by a dentist. laughing
            1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 3 October 2020 21: 43
              -2
              Jews are considered to be the main Jews by their mothers, here the mothers of the above and many in the leadership of the Russian Federation are Jewish (including Shoigu) ... True, S. Lavrov (and some others), the father is a Jew (Laverman) ... I am not against the Jews, I am against the dominance of Jews in the leadership of the Russian Federation ...
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 3 October 2020 21: 59
                +1
                Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
                Jews are mainly considered Jews by their mother ...

                Vladimir TuzakovI don't care how much Russian blood is in a person, she is the strongest.

                There are many Jews living in Israel who think they are Jews ... It is not true, they are Russians! smile
              2. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 3 October 2020 22: 20
                +1
                Anecdote:

                - An experiment was conducted in Latvia: what do Latvians shout when they step on a rake? As a result of the experiment, it turned out that in Latvia - 100% of the Russians.

                smile
                1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 4 October 2020 11: 15
                  +1
                  In Latvia, local Russians are not even granted citizenship, the Russian language is prohibited in institutions, schools, and so on. The second generation of the Balts is already growing up, who does not know Russian. The anecdote is stretched and without real foundations ...
                  After the collapse of the USSR, the Russians were identified as the main culprit for all the subsequent troubles of the emerging national states (at the suggestion of the United States and other ill-wishers) and they were oppressed up to evictions, murders (in the Caucasus and Central Asian republics). Now Russia is slowly but strengthening, and the wave of resistance of the Russian ethnos to persecution is also growing ... It will take decades until Russia gets stronger (and the enemies of the United States, etc., will weaken), then the Russians abroad will cease to persecute and humiliate ...
  2. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 2 October 2020 15: 34
    0
    Erdogan violates international law in Karabakh? Looks like no.
  3. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
    Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 2 October 2020 15: 49
    +1
    Yes, let Turkey do what it wants, the USSR also lived on a grand scale, feeding so many parasites around the world and parasite republics, as a result, the USSR was gone. If Turkey is not smart enough to tame itself, the economy will collapse.
  4. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 2 October 2020 15: 53
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    Until Nagorno-Karabakh becomes part of Russia, blood will flow there. It is necessary to advise Azerbaijan and Armenia to spite each other to agree to the transfer of this land under the flag of Russia. Well, whoever then attacks this enclave, which has become a Russian one, may lose statehood ...
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 2 October 2020 16: 45
      0
      I have an idea. you go in Karabakh. Armenians and Azerbaijanis kick you together and let off steam. because your proposal is to give Armenia and Azerbaijan a common enemy in the person of Russia.
      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 2 October 2020 16: 52
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        Is your suggestion that they interrupt each other themselves, or with someone else's help? I say - to give Russia to spite each other! And the Tsarist Russia was not their enemy when it completely owned this territory?
        1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
          Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 2 October 2020 17: 49
          +2
          decided to exchange Russian blood for Armenian blood?
    2. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 2 October 2020 17: 41
      0
      Exclav)))
  5. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 2 October 2020 17: 25
    +1
    that Erdogan gets away with everything - the murder of both the ambassador and the Russian pilot.

    Well done! At least one calls a spade a spade.

    Lenin began to feed the sultans.

    And for you ball only Lenin and Stalin are always to blame.

    ... Well, Putin, oh yes what are you
    Putin is just great ...

    (the Internet)
  6. _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
    _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 2 October 2020 17: 40
    -4
    Russian orientalist))) weren't his ancestors in leather jackets destroying Orthodoxy, shooting priests? fought, so to speak, with "opium for the people", which did not prevent them from building a synagogue in 1926. in Mary's grove. Well, how best to die this "orientalist" will definitely be able to offer us)) I see the prerequisites for our policy of at least "weakening" by destroying young people (say, age 72-79, where are they? mainly in the cemetery) Well, if you take the maximum program, then who, as a fantasy, will tell. What is he "treating" here? ...- and can go to meet him? ...- go through the forest "Satan" (IMHO) nibble on "Amman's ears"
  7. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 2 October 2020 17: 56
    +1
    Whose shopping center is European? Whose shopping center Yerevan Plaza? Whose Crocus with Aquanarium? GUM, finally?
    A huge request, there is no need for war in my Moscow ...
  8. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 2 October 2020 18: 23
    +6
    For a change, I suggest looking at the situation from a slightly different angle. So to speak, meditate for a warm-up.
    Armenia is now in a rather difficult position. Nobody will help her in Karabakh itself. And the escalation if anything is serious. Aviation is still used to a limited extent, "large caliber" like the Iskander and Azerbaijan's analogues are still waiting in the wings. A hundred Azeri T-90s seem to be in ambush too.
    If Armenia recognizes Karabakh and officially enters the war, it will also have to deal with Turkey. There is no need to count on the CSTO, because formally this is not an attack on Armenia. Will foreign countries help them? All she can count on is an encouraging pat on the back from the American ambassador. Moreover, the states have no time for them at all, elections are on the way, and coronopsychosis knocked Donald down winked ). All the more, Angela has nothing to say, they cannot do anything in the Caucasus, and even there they did not run into an advantage there with Lekha's cowards.



    Emanuel has socially conversations with Mademoiselle Tikhanov, and there are plenty of other problems. With the Turks, he still cannot aggravate relations. In Mali, a coup happened, and there a lot of useful things are buried in the ground, including uranium, and the road to Niger, where the same uranium is mined.

    https://rg.ru/2013/01/17/mali-poln.html

    Rumor has it that a large consignment of raw materials from the French was taken away in Mali, and you will have to buy everything from Rosatom .... And they also say water sources on the border of Mali, if that part of Libya will remain on the fantasies with Coca-Cola. And it is believed that a brazen mustachioed bully was involved in the coup. And the new government does not speak Russian badly because the local military studied against the background of Russian birches. In general, the French are not up to Karabakh.
    Pashinyan can also count on the moral support of numerous diasporas. That's all.
    It means that either the Armenians will write off the creative prime minister together with all the sorrows and Armenia will finish playing multi-vector before Lukashenka, or Pashinyan himself will start doing it because he has nowhere to go. And he will have to return to negotiations on the settlement of the conflict and the return of the "seven regions".
    It turns out that the ugly Erdogan helps Armenia to turn to Russia and to the west at least sideways. Well, if it's really completely cynical, it's not such a big difference where exactly the Syrian militants are ground, in Libya or Karbakh, they want a rather controversial thesis what , nevertheless, it is much closer to our borders.
    It turns out that Erdogan's actions are not so unacceptable for Moscow, at least for now.
    This is how it happens if you do not try to straightforwardly divide into enemies and allies. In this terrarium, everyone tries for himself.
    1. Accidentally Offline Accidentally
      Accidentally 3 October 2020 08: 12
      0
      There, in the Caucasus, the great Caucasian war is just beginning ... and will last for a long time
  9. Dark Offline Dark
    Dark (Design Ovragoff) 2 October 2020 20: 29
    -3
    The main reason for all these mistakes is the cowardice of Russia, which, thanks to the "wise" policy of the Kremlin brave man, has become a terpila country.
  10. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 2 October 2020 20: 43
    +5
    The fact that the Turks have become insolent has long been obvious, so it is high time to stop selling vouchers to Turkish pomoish resorts with stomach flu, and let them sell their plastic tomatoes to Azerbaijan, if they can, Russia does not need products from either Turkey or Azerbaijan, and even visitors from these and other countries suffering from Russophobia too
  11. DVF Offline DVF
    DVF (Denis) 3 October 2020 07: 27
    +3
    The main reason for all these mistakes is the cowardice of Russia, which, thanks to the "wise" policy of the Kremlin brave man, has turned into a shy country-terpila.

    Stolypin said: give me 20 years of peace and you will not recognize the country. What is happening now is not cowardice, but the accumulation of forces for a big war.
  12. Anatoly Gritsenko (Anatoly Gritsenko) 3 October 2020 10: 03
    -4
    Erdogan is Putin's best friend and Putin has surpassed everyone - he sent people to Turkey to eat poisonous and rotten tomatoes, sold our S-400 to the Yankees through them, surrendered Syria, ran a pipe with a PUBLIC DIGNITY and in every possible way lebiza before him, humiliating his great people and country!
  13. Termit1309 Offline Termit1309
    Termit1309 (Alexander) 3 October 2020 10: 48
    0
    Quote: Dark
    The main reason for all these mistakes is the cowardice of Russia, which, thanks to the "wise" policy of the Kremlin brave man, has become a terpila country.

    Actually, no one is holding you. Don't be like them. I think the army of Nagorno-Karabakh needs such fearless fighters. yes

    123 (123) Yesterday, 18:23 p.m.

    For a change, I suggest looking at the situation from a slightly different angle. So to speak, meditate for a warm-up.
    Not only that, Armenia is actually being forced to face Russia. Its Armed Forces are destroying militants from Syria, and voluntarily and with a pestle.
    This is called the political game of chess. It's a pity that most of the local experts can only play Chapaev.
  14. Alexander Friend (Alexander Friend) 3 October 2020 11: 53
    -1
    GOD help all the just!
    I look carefully and with interest every time, I read when Satanovsky enters! He always speaks correctly, rightly no matter what and to whom it concerns.
    And this time I completely agree with him.
    What is it like? Is Russia afraid of Turkey? I will never believe. Even more: Russia is not afraid of anyone.
    So: why are the Russian authorities pulling. Syria was immediately intervened as needed. And what about Armenia, who to expect? Isn't it time to end these ugly, arrogant attacks by Erdogan? Confederates will be added in the face of France to protect Armenia. France and Greece are defending. Both Greece and Iran are for Armenia. And I am sure that if China goes further, it will support Armenia, at least for not seeing the "newborn sultanate of Great Turan" nearby. This is Erdogan's dream. And Crimea will be in danger.
  15. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 3 October 2020 14: 39
    +2
    I tried to understand the history of this Karabakh, but I did not understand anything. According to the documents, it turns out that it was populated by force, from the XNUMXth - XNUMXth centuries, but in ancient times the Armenians were there before, then the Turks captured, then the Russian Empire took it into the structure, and then the circus began. I don't understand at all how the languages ​​changed there: from Indo-European to Turkic - this is nowhere to be found. But if you find it, it will immediately become clear whose flag should be there. In the meantime, the darkness is complete.
    1. volk.bosiy Offline volk.bosiy
      volk.bosiy (Volk Bosiy) 3 October 2020 22: 44
      0
      dark matter - but one thing is clear - the Türks there are late newcomers ...
      1. Seal Offline Seal
        Seal (Sergey Petrovich) 7 October 2020 16: 27
        0
        And the highlanders-TURUKKU ???
    2. bankiryvraginaroda (bankers are enemies of the people) 5 October 2020 23: 44
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      Dima, I’ll tell you so. I figured out the history while I lived in those parts for a long time. This piece of land for the Armenians, which is Kosovo for the Serbs, and Moscow for the Russians. We take into account the corrupt, Turkish-Americanized Georgians. It is clear that the Turks occupied Russia without war, there are already 2 million Azerbaijanis, at least in Moscow alone, and the same number from Central Asia. Few Russians understand this. Those who understand well he lived among the Basurman, and who managed to escape from there alive, starting from the 90s.
  16. iomoe Offline iomoe
    iomoe (Andrei) 3 October 2020 16: 36
    +2
    Will the Turks go to fight himself, or does he want to send someone?
  17. volk.bosiy Offline volk.bosiy
    volk.bosiy (Volk Bosiy) 3 October 2020 22: 43
    0
    early ... let him play some more ...
  18. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 4 October 2020 12: 28
    -1
    Satanovsky simply does not see that the interests of the state have long diverged from the interests of Putin's companies. Which for the sake of profit and gold toilet bowls and "will bury their mother alive in the grave." '
  19. bankiryvraginaroda (bankers are enemies of the people) 5 October 2020 23: 33
    -1
    The only person who offered an effective solution to the situation
  20. NOSOROG_2 Offline NOSOROG_2
    NOSOROG_2 (Sergey Karpov) 7 October 2020 05: 29
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    They began to feed ... Yes, this is being done all over the world, but everything goes to the fact that RUSSIA is being "cried out" to get into this conflict as quickly as possible ... / Everything, its time /
  21. Seal Offline Seal
    Seal (Sergey Petrovich) 7 October 2020 16: 26
    +1
    Satanovsky indignantly emphasizes that Erdogan gets away with everything - the murder of both the ambassador and the Russian pilot. For the sake of preserving their own country, the Russian authorities must "shorten the new sultan" and not let him into the Caucasus and further into Asia.

    Does Satanovsky seem to be completely unfamiliar with further events after the downing of our plane?
    Yes, we then, in the heat of the moment, said a lot of unnecessary things to each other. They tried to play us against each other very professionally. But as subsequent events clearly showed, that shot down our SU-24 plane was actually the first step in preparing a coup d'etat in Turkey. Inspired by the United States. A coup to overthrow Erdogan himself.
    The task is to bring down our plane and thereby quarrel our countries (Russia and Turkey).
    The goal is to ensure Russia's non-interference, and if you're lucky, then Russia's benevolent attitude towards the planned coup in Turkey. After all, the United States was well aware that we Russians would still learn that a coup against Erdogan was being prepared in Turkey.
    So they wanted to substitute Erdogan in such a way as to cover him so much before us that we would not have any desire to interfere with the coup in Turkey.
    Particularly tried some neighbors of Turkey. After the downing of our plane, the loudest screams on the topic that “Turks (hereinafter the dirty stream of traditional swearing at the Turks)”, “Turks cannot be trusted”, “Knife in the back” and so on came from Yerevan.
    But our President received information not only from their radio.
    Having analyzed the situation, our President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin eventually understood the whole situation. And at the last moment, he intervened and took a number of effective operational measures to save the Turkish President Erdogan.
    After that, Erdogan understood how the Americans framed him.
    By the way, aren't there ARMENIAN ears sticking out here ???
    Who was the head of the US Air Force's Special Operations Division at the Pentagon at the time? It turns out that at that time the head of the US Special Operations Department at the Pentagon was a certain General Jeffrey Harrigan. Well, yes, the one who, shortly after the failure with the coup against Erdogan, out of anger gave the command to bomb the positions of our PMCs on the Euphrates (Syria).

    http://kavkazplus.com/news.php?id=18804#.XGLJHDpS-Uk

    After the provocation with our plane, Harigyan's career took off sharply.
    And after the bombing of our PMCs, his career just ran uphill.
    If in April 2015 - July 2016 he is Director, F-35 Integration Office, Headquarters US Air Force, the Pentagon, Arlington, Va.
    Since July 2016 - August 2018, he is already a Commander, US Air Forces Central Command, Combined Force Air Component Commander, US Central Command, Southwest Asia.
    And since September 2018 - April 2019 Harrigian is already Deputy Commander, US Air Forces in Europe-Air Forces Africa, Ramstein AB, Germany
    Well, since May 2019 - Present Harrigian Commander, United States Air Forces Europe; Commander, United States Air Forces Africa; Commander, Allied Air Command; and Director, Joint Air Power Competence Center, Ramstein AB, Germany

    By the way, Armenians have new joy. Trump recently appointed Patrick Hovakimian as Chief of Staff for US National Intelligence.

    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/infoteka24/tramp-naznachil-patrika-ovakimiana-glavoi-apparata-nacionalnoi-razvedki-ssha-5eb3c831dadc5a18844d10fc

    Why such an honor? I am aware that the Turks killed our ambassador. But who was the customer?
  22. Seal Offline Seal
    Seal (Sergey Petrovich) 7 October 2020 16: 27
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    Quote: Dmitry S.
    According to the documents, it turns out that it was populated by force, from the XNUMXth - XNUMXth centuries, but in ancient times the Armenians were there before,

    There are also DOCUMENTS about antiquity ???
  23. Seal Offline Seal
    Seal (Sergey Petrovich) 7 October 2020 16: 31
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    Quote: Bulanov
    Until Nagorno-Karabakh becomes part of Russia, blood will be shed there

    Why are you deciding for all of us whom to let into our common apartment? At least for the sake of appearance, we would first suggest holding a referendum in Russia on Karabakh. We need it or let it go through the forest.