Kedmi: Russia in the Karabakh conflict must achieve two goals


The coming to power in Armenia of Nikol Pashinyan and the forces behind him led to a revision policy Baku and Ankara to Yerevan. Turks and Azerbaijanis saw a decrease in the level of support for Armenia from Russia. This was stated on the air of the program "Evening with Vladimir Solovyov" on the TV channel "Russia 1", political scientist, ex-head of the Israeli special service "Nativ" Yakov Kedmi.


He explained that the emergence of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh is associated with the long-standing enmity of the peoples of the Caucasus. But recently, attempts to reorient Armenia to the West, tearing it away from Russia, have become increasingly important. This led to the weakening of the Armenian state, because the main strength of Yerevan was that Moscow was behind it.

Russia cannot allow foreign troops to enter Armenia. At the same time, Russia cannot defend Karabakh for it. If the Armenian army has no strength, they will lose Karabakh. And let them say thanks to themselves and to those who turned their backs on Moscow

- considers Kedmi.

The expert specified that the Armenian army used to be strong, but thanks to the intervention of instructors from the United States, it weakened. He is not sure that the Armenian Armed Forces are capable of effectively conducting military operations.

Earlier, the Armenian army marched across the Azerbaijani land, capturing it, and not vice versa

He pointed out.

But now Armenia is in a situation where Azerbaijan is able to take Nagorno-Karabakh from it by force. And no one can stop this. Russia will not get involved in this conflict for the reasons described above.

They made the porridge themselves, so take it out yourself!

- The expert added.

In his opinion, Russia must achieve two goals. The first is for Armenia to preserve its territorial integrity (Nagorno-Karabakh is not a part of this country). The second is to prevent the Turks from achieving the deployment of their military bases in Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijanis are Turkish people. It's like Belarusians - Russian people

- noted Kedmi.

The political scientist explained that Azerbaijan is the closest country in spirit to Ankara. But Baku has its own problems and does not want to be part of Turkey there. Azerbaijanis defend their dignity and independence.

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  1. General Black Offline General Black
    General Black (Gennady) 29 September 2020 17: 32
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    The first is for Armenia to preserve its territorial integrity (Nagorno-Karabakh is not part of this country).

    And so it is, according to the Kurekchay treatise of May 14, 1805.

    http://erevangala500.com/page/236.html
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 19: 46
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      Quote: General Black
      And so it is, according to the Kurekchay treatise of May 14, 1805.

      Treaty of Kurekchay - a treatise dated May 14, 1805, signed between the Karabakh Khan Ibrahim and the Russian Empire
      This documentary source clearly demonstrates that the empire conquered exclusively Azerbaijani lands, to which the Armenians from Turkey and Iran subsequently settled. Not a single paragraph of this document contains any mention of the Armenians or the Armenian possessions in Karabakh, allegedly becoming Russian citizenship.

      More details: https://erevangala500.com/page/236.html
      1. Dust Offline Dust
        Dust (Sergei) 29 September 2020 21: 25
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        I totally disagree with you! Type Wikipedia. Nagorno-Karabakh, get acquainted with the history of this region! It clearly states that the Armenians have owned this land for over 1000 years. In 1747, the Turks conquered these territories for the first time. But in 1805, the Russian Empire crushed Karabakh under itself ..... So, to say that there were no Armenians there, you are not telling the truth. Your reasoning in the style of the Crimean Tatars .... "we are the indigenous population" .... True, they kept silent when they came to Crimea, they killed everyone, and the women were sold into slavery.
        1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
          Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 21: 35
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          Quote: Dust
          Type Wikipedia

          Is Wikipedia proof for you? Do not disgrace yourself. In 5 minutes I will prove to you that they are wrong whatever you say. The Karabakh Khanate was founded by Panah Ali Khan. Karabakh has a semantic translation in Azerbaijani, but not in Armenian. Translated from the Azerbaijani black garden. Further. Armenians say that Karabakh was called Arts-tsa-khom. OK. Don't you want to see who is the founder of the Artsakh principality? If you do not know, before Islam, there was a Christian faith in Azerbaijan. The founder of this principality is Hasan Jalal Dovlya. Albanian prince. This is the time when Azerbaijan was called Caucasian Albania. I repeat the Albanian prince Hasan and not Ashot or Vazgen. I can also prove that many Christian churches are from the Albanian heritage, which was then ARMENIZED. Suppose this is all that I have indicated above is noodles ..... let's say before the Albanians the Armenians dominated ... ... ... .. and this comrade is already 1000 years ago. In this case, you do not mind to remake the whole world according to that era. Imagine destroying the USA and returning it to INDIANS. How do you like this idea? Europe is given under the control of ancient Rome. If you say something like that somewhere in the USA, they will openly send nX. and even called a separatist. Now tell me, did you see LO-HOV in the face of Azerbaijanis? You won't even show me more than one internationally recognized historical document where there is even a word about Armenians. Trust me you won't find. I will even say more .... they call themselves Khayy, Armenia is Khayastan ... If you find even a word about them earlier than in the 17th century, I publicly admit that Karabakh is Armenian, despite the fact that I am a purebred Azerbaijani. All in attention .... I give the floor to the experts. VERY HOPE THAT WE WILL SPEAK IN THE LANGUAGE OF DOCUMENTS AND NOT WIKIPEDIA.
        2. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
          Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 21: 38
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          Quote: Dust
          you are not telling the truth.

          The Armenian language belongs to the Indo-European group of languages. This has already been tested and proven. And this speaks of their coming, and given their Turkic surnames ALLAHVERDYAN, SULEYMANYAN, DYAMIRCHYAN (there are more than 80% of them), this speaks of their assimilation with us and not ours with them. You will never see an Azerbaijani with the surname Ashotzade, but you will see many Armenian surnames that have a semantic translation in Azerbaijani ... and the ending YAN is Persian if you did not know. They are our ancients)))))))))
      2. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 29 September 2020 21: 44
        +1
        It all depends on the personal preferences of the commentator. Everyone finds in history what he wants.
        I see no reason to rest against a single agreement.
        The geographic concept of "Azerbaijan" until 1918. was not by definition. Accordingly, there were no Azerbaijanis either.
        Tatars lived in these places. Anyone. Some of them were called Aderbijan. By the name of the area Aderbidzhan. From the word ader (Azerbaijani) - fire. Since ancient times, fire worshipers have lived there. This area is entirely located on the territory of present-day Iran.
        For the appearance of Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis, we must thank the Soviet government. Confused a lot. A lot of all Tatars began to be called separate peoples:

        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Татары_(значения)

        And vice versa, the people, from ancient times called Bulgars, began to be called Tatars (Kazan).
        In Aderbidzhan itself, the Tatars were also newcomers, the main population was the Persians-Zoroastrians.
        Why all this was done is a separate story.

        ... the empire conquered exclusively Azerbaijani lands, to which Armenians from Turkey and Iran later moved.

        They did not move, but returned to their former place of residence, from where they had previously been evicted by the Persians and Turks.
        Turkic nomads began to move to these places only at the turn of the XNUMXst and XNUMXnd millennia of our era. And the current population is a sickly mix of various peoples, united now only by language and culture, which were not brought there by the Turks.
        And the history of Armenia is more than 2 thousand years old, and if we take into account its predecessor, Urartu, then all 3 thousand years and at the best of times it had borders on the Caspian, Black and Mediterranean seas.
        And the territory of present-day Israel also visited it. So, in the lands designated by the Treaty of Sevres, Armenia has much more rights than the Jews to Israel. The Armenians lived there permanently and did not go anywhere.
        This does not mean that I feel any special reverence towards the Armenians. I will not talk about it so as not to earn an article of the Criminal Code. Even under the USSR (1985 - 87) I served for 2 years in the military construction units of the Soviet Army (who understands what it is about) and I look at our former brothers very pragmatically and with a clear understanding of who and what they are.
        But history must be treated more carefully, not to make it a "corrupt girl" for all occasions.
        You just need to understand that the Americans first put Pashinyan on a stool, who ruined relations with the Russian Federation and the Armenian army. Then the same State Department set up Erdogan and Aliyev, promising support, and they climbed into Armenia. And they will end in about the same way as Saakashvili.
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 29 September 2020 21: 47
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          The link, as always, does not work. You just need to type: Tatars (meaning) Wikipedia.
        2. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
          Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 21: 55
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          Quote: boriz
          The geographic concept of "Azerbaijan" until 1918. was not by definition. Accordingly, there were no Azerbaijanis either. Tatars lived in these places. Anyone. Some of them were called Aderbijan. By the name of the area Aderbidzhan. From the word ader (Azerbaijani) - fire.

          it's all nonsense. tomorrow I will prove to you with documents that you are wrong. Please just wait until tomorrow. Yes, we were called Tatars and Muslims. I just ask you to wait until tomorrow and I will explain everything to you.
        3. Phill phillat Offline Phill phillat
          Phill phillat (Letnab) 18 November 2020 04: 27
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          Good already pro-great Armenia, but now the Greeks with Alexander the Great will gallop into the Roman Empire. Half-delirium in the spirit of the ukrov who dug the Black Sea
  2. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 29 September 2020 17: 34
    0
    Yasha states the obvious. Armenia is a degrading system and it will be the loser, the question is the extent of the loss.
    1. Alexander Friend (Alexander Friend) 1 October 2020 00: 50
      -1
      The world is your home, good brother. Maybe a Christian too, right? And this Christian wishes and rejoices that a Christian country has lost the war to a Muslim country? You are apparently a Muslim, an Azerbaijani? DEGRADATION? Are you so smart? Do you know such words? And what is the use of you and your people that Armenia will lose? What sadness? Not ashamed? You better read the true story, find out what peoples when and where they came from, when and where was born JESUS ​​CHRIST, which state and in what year was the first in the world to adopt Christianity as a religion. Look at the maps of the world which states were two or three thousand years ago. What peoples were and where they lived. You can find everything on the Internet, since you are so worried about the Armenians.
      I wish you and your people health, happiness, wealth ... you are not at war with anyone, otherwise some idiots will consider you DEGRADED, and will laugh at you. And this is a sin, you know?
  3. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 29 September 2020 18: 06
    -3
    Yasha really likes the role of a great expert-analyst on all issues, apparently this is a consequence of progressive dementia, although in his younger years this gentleman was not distinguished by a great mind, he was more characterized by overestimated self-esteem. Think about it - what did he say? Either the Armenians will defend Karabakh, or the Azerbaijanis will conquer it. Amazing analytics! bully
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 29 September 2020 18: 13
      -1
      Is it time to return the Armenians to where they got it from? return to Turks and Iranians? that a lot of stench lately from those who have artificially created the state.
      1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
        Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 21: 39
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        Quote: Sergey Tokarev
        Is it time to return the Armenians to where they got it from?

        Balkans.
        1. Alexander Friend (Alexander Friend) 30 September 2020 23: 49
          +1
          And in which newspaper did you read it? Maybe in some kind of magazine? Is there proof?
          Why are you stirring up Azeri gossip, are you ashamed? You better read real books about the real history of humanity: where did people come from. What is your faith? Do you believe there was Noah? See the old world maps, read: for almost 5000 years Armenia was in the same place where it is now. Read about Tigran the Great, with him about Great Armenia from sea to sea to JESUS ​​CHRIST. Read who in the world was the first to adopt Christianity by statehood ...
          You can find all this and a lot more about Armenians, and maybe about your people in English, Italian, French and Armenian museums, scientific institutions, and even in the USA, Canada. And maybe in Russia you can find it.
          Do not believe the women’s gossip that sit under the porches and shovel seeds.
          I wish you and your people health, happiness, kindness, all the best. Live without war. Peace to you.
      2. Alexander Friend (Alexander Friend) 1 October 2020 00: 29
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        Peace to your home, dear Russian brother, Christian! Good luck in your life! I am Armenian and I am very proud of it. My homeland and my people are almost 5000 years old! And we live in the same place where we appeared, only the territory has become small temporarily. There is nothing eternal and never will be. Do you know about your people, history? Where did you come from? Do you know when and where was born JESUS ​​CHRIST? Do you have faith? Do you know which state and which nation was the first in the world to adopt Christianity as a state religion and in what year? You better read good, old books about history, look at the old maps of the world, what states were and how they were called. You can find them in museums around the world. Read on the internet. Know when and where the Oguz Turkmens came, who have now become Turks. Find the independent state of Azerbaijan in some map of the world until 1918. And read a lot, a lot, learn about the Armenians, since the Armenians excite you so much. Only to be honest.
        I wish you and your people health, happiness, wealth ... you are not at war with anyone. This evil. And then some idiot over your people can scoff. This is a great sin. Do you know yes?
  4. Sergey-54 Offline Sergey-54
    Sergey-54 (Sergei) 29 September 2020 18: 25
    +1
    It was not for nothing that Armenia closed the border so that the volunteers would not run away.
    1. Alexander Friend (Alexander Friend) 1 October 2020 00: 06
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      It's easy to scoff, laugh, right? Like? High is it? Not ashamed? Are you gloating? In what newspaper or magazine, or maybe in a book, did you read these Azeri gossips? Maybe you are an Azerbaijani? And can you prove it? And you don’t read that Armenians from all over the world go to Armenia who have never even been to Armenia, were born in the USA, Canada, France, England, Lebanon, Syria ... 2000 volunteers from Russia go to Armenia to give their lives for their Motherland ...
      I wish you and your people peace, health, live richly and happily. Do not fight with anyone and do not run anywhere.
      1. Sergey-54 Offline Sergey-54
        Sergey-54 (Sergei) 2 October 2020 16: 45
        0
        Then piss off!!! And how they go through Georgia.
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 September 2020 00: 22
    -1
    Cadmi pushes everything in the back ...
  6. Alexander Friend (Alexander Friend) 30 September 2020 23: 18
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    Dear Kedmi contradicts himself: it turns out that if Pashinyan did not turn his back on Russia, would Putin help Armenia at the expense of Artsakh (Karabakh)? So understand?