Sources: Su-30 that fell during the exercise was accidentally shot down by a Su-35 fighter

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On September 22, a heavy fighter of the Russian Aerospace Forces Su-30 crashed in the Tver region. According to the press service of the Western Military District, the plane crashed in a wooded area. At the same time, the crew successfully ejected and was evacuated by rescue helicopters.

A commission of the Western Military District was sent to the scene of the accident to establish the causes and circumstances of the incident

- said in the message of the ZVO.



Meanwhile, at specialized Russian forums, which are often conducted by both combatant and former military pilots, information has appeared that deserves, at least, attention. According to it, the Su-30 was accidentally hit by a Su-35 fighter during a "training battle".

The wingman on the Su-35S went into the tail of the Su-30M2 and opened fire from his GSh-30-1. But no one told the pilot that the gun was combat-ready (the technician, obviously, forgot to turn off the electric igniter, and the pilot forgot to turn off the weapon)

- writes an anonymous participant.

The Su-35S and Su-30M2 practiced aerial combat, the Su-35S was supposed to shoot photos, but instead fired a real volley from a cannon at the 30th and demolished a bit of "plumage". The crew of the 30th successfully ejected, and the pilot of the Su-35S, after everything that happened, was a little shocked.

- follows from another message.

This information should be treated with a good degree of skepticism, because the official statement of the press service of the Western Military District contains nothing of the kind. At the same time, the ZVO has not yet named even preliminary reasons for the fall of the Su-30.

Added: At 12:26 pm Moscow time on September 23, a source from the Russian news agency TASS confirmed the information about an accidental attack against the Su-30.
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    1. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
      BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
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      23 September 2020 11: 04
      Summingly somehow, it is unlikely that the eraplans are charged before a training battle!
      1. hig
        hig
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        April 9 2021 16: 53
        Quote: BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
        eraplans are unlikely to be charged before a training battle!

        I will disappoint you: the gun on the combat plane is ALWAYS loaded! discharges only when the unit is placed in the heat-and-power unit to perform routine maintenance / repair work. Another thing is that the plane has a weapon lock, the "Main" toggle switch, which is countered by a thin copper lock in the "off" position - all this is nevertheless switched on in a training battle for the LMS to work, and also, in the head power unit there is a "Training" toggle switch. - it is he who should be in peacetime (if the plane is not on alert) in the "ON" position and locked with a thin copper lock - then when you press the BK NO, instead of a cannon salvo, the FKP-photo-machine gun will turn on. In addition to everything, the inclusion of the "Instructional" toggle switch, according to the hands. documents, from the beginning-mid-90s, is duplicated by turning off the gas station (push-button network protection circuit breaker - in common parlance - gas station) "PUSHKA", and, in addition to this, by disconnecting the electric igniter connector on the gun, which often (in my service - always ) is supplemented by the extraction of the first projectile from the barrel, (in common parlance - the bolt) of the gun. So that with the strict fulfillment of ALL the requirements of the hands. documents, what happened just COULD NOT happen! This means that in the aviation unit the management of the ITS FROM HAND VON BADLY organized control over the performance of operations (operational control), for the regiment engineer, and below - (for the engineers of the ATO or ae, and further - for the chiefs of the calculation ...) for AB - the assessment of FAILURE! Head of the deputy. the IAS commander can also fly off ...
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92
      +1
      23 September 2020 11: 11
      The wingman on the Su-35S went into the tail of the Su-30M2 and opened fire from his GSh-30-1. But no one told the pilot that the gun was combat-ready (the technician, obviously, forgot to turn off the electric igniter, and the pilot forgot to turn off the weapon)

    3. gorenina91
      gorenina91
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      23 September 2020 12: 42
      The Su-35S and Su-30M2 practiced aerial combat, the Su-35S was supposed to shoot photos, but instead fired a real volley from a cannon at the 30th and demolished a bit of "plumage".

      -Once it is said that "he demolished that little" plumage ", then ... then ... then photographing the Su-35S recorded a hit in the Su-30M2 ... -It is a pity that the cannons and machine guns are not blocked by the system alien "... - And how did the Su-30M2 crew eject so quickly?
      - In general, all this looks like some kind of fake ... - Why was it suddenly the Su-35S was with ammunition ???
      - Was he ... before that was at the shooting ??? - Shooting is carried out only at the range ... - and after that .. anyway ... - would still be disarmed ...
      A lot of incomprehensible ... - A cool fighter is lost ... - And it's not clear ... - how did the pilots manage to eject in this situation ... - And did they manage to eject at all ... - after all, a burst from an automatic cannon was slapped into them from a short distance (otherwise you won't get there) ...
      -Yes, and the fact that "they demolished a little" plumage "sounds somehow unlikely ... -then they would not have ejected ... -maybe the Su-35S photographing recorded a completely" different "... -direct hit and the explosion of the plane ...
      - In general ... - there are a lot of ambiguities ...
      1. Accidentally
        Accidentally
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        24 September 2020 12: 29
        this is the Russian word for carelessness, no other is given
    4. Guerilla1
      Guerilla1
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      23 September 2020 15: 48
      This version is strictly for Hindus ...)
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