Kedmi announced the desire of Americans to physically eliminate Putin


If the US intelligence services had the opportunity, they would have already carried out the physical elimination of Russian President Vladimir Putin. This was stated by a political scientist, ex-head of the Israeli special service "Nativ" Yakov Kedmi on the air of the social and political talk show "Right to Know" on the TVC channel.


Kedmi is convinced that there is no difference between Republican Donald Trump and his “democratic” rival Joe Biden in terms of their commitment to international law. For example, Trump himself admitted that he had ordered the elimination of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.

There was no president of the United States who did not consider political the murder of the leader of this or that country, as desirable and possible. <...> They did not have any moral boundaries, and never will. The only question is expediency

- stressed Kedmi.

The expert explained that the entire history of the United States is accompanied by such murders. The Americans have always killed the leaders of other countries who interfered with them, if they had the opportunity. There were 170 assassination attempts against Cuban leader Fidel Castro, according to the testimony of the Americans themselves.

And then, what difference does it make whether to kill a politician or 2,5 million Vietnamese? If they could destroy Ho Chi Minh City, they would. But they couldn't. I'll tell you more, if they could eliminate the Russian president, they would do it

- he added.

In addition, Kedmi touched upon the situation in the United States itself. He drew a parallel between the events of today and the civil war of 1861-1865.

A civil war is already underway in the United States, the question is - with what intensity? And it is quite possible that the losing side will not accept the election results and will try to correct it by force. But ... such is the vaunted democracy and resilience of the most successful state on the planet.

- summed up Kedmi.


Note that the famous American political and economic columnist Paul Craig Roberts recently сообщил on his personal blog about the imminent "color revolution" that could destroy the US after the November 2020 elections.
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  1. beeper Offline beeper
    beeper 20 September 2020 20: 29
    +2
    Let’s listen to the respected Jacob Kedmi, we didn’t have to search on YouTube, Thank you Site Reporter for serving "on a silver platter"! good yes
  2. King3214 Offline King3214
    King3214 (Sergius) 20 September 2020 20: 32
    0
    Where is the stinking herd of EU democracy advocates?
    Hey, were you breathing what the President of the United States said?
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 September 2020 08: 13
      +1
      Any bindyuzhniki have already noted
  3. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 20 September 2020 20: 32
    -13 qualifying.
    Yasha is completely insolent - he used to go to Moscow and cut the loot by being physically present in the studio of a string of "nightingale droppings", and now he is so lazy that he does it without leaving the house. Well, it’s right, in Israel no one wants to listen to his nonsense, he’s no one to call him here, but in Russia he is a respected expert on all issues, from the history of the ancient world to the poisoning of Navalny. When will the Russians finally understand that this empty-headed chatterbox is simply fooling the audience like a clown in a circus and making a lot of money on it? wassat
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 20 September 2020 21: 11
      +7
      Why are you so worried about him? A person speaks and is still listened to, you need to be happy for him. They all earn money on TV. Against the background of many clowns performing on TV, he looks quite good because he says pretty sensible things. Due to the language barrier, I cannot compare with your local clowns, but I doubt that only nuclear physicists, astronomers and distinguished economists perform there.
      What did he say essentially wrong?
      There have been attempts on Putin's life and will probably still be. The United States has never been shy about eliminating opponents. American Civil War? As a matter of fact, it is already underway. Let's wait a month and see how and what.
      In general, I do not quite understand the essence of the claims. hi
      That remotely, so the virus did not go anywhere. And we have some growth, and they say they again introduced quarantine.
      By the way, they say we have made the medicine. From that week, they promise to appear in pharmacies, for 10 or 000 dollars per nose for the sacrament of recovery. winked They say the registration has already passed.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4yuZPcgIUU

      http://www.promo-med.ru/18_09_2020-gk_promomed_poluchila_postoyannoe_ru_na_areplivir.html
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 20 September 2020 21: 27
        -11 qualifying.
        Quote: 123
        There have been attempts on Putin's life and will probably still be.

        I have not heard, enlighten - when, who, how did it attempt?

        Quote: 123
        The United States has never been shy about eliminating opponents.

        The USSR did not lag behind in this matter.

        Quote: 123
        American Civil War? Until she essentially goes

        I must disappoint you - life in the United States goes on as usual, people work, rest, buy real estate. A daughter and her son-in-law are looking for a summer house in the mountains of Colorado these days - in California, where they live, it is hot in summer.

        Quote: 123
        In general, I do not quite understand the essence of the claims.

        What are the claims? A man cuts loot without straining too much - well done, those who listen to him and take him seriously, obviously do not differ in their outstanding intelligence ...

        Quote: 123
        By the way, they say we have made the medicine.

        No offense, but I wouldn't give that medicine to a homeless dog - I love animals.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 20 September 2020 22: 11
          +7
          I have not heard, enlighten - when, who, how did it attempt?

          Especially enlightening will not work. There is little information, and he himself does not really cover this topic.





          The USSR did not lag behind in this matter.

          I lagged behind, did not lag behind, this is a controversial issue, only logic - "like that" in this case does not work. Does this somehow disprove that the United States is eliminating opponents?

          I must disappoint you - life in the United States goes on as usual, people work, rest, buy real estate. A daughter and her son-in-law are looking for a summer house in the mountains of Colorado these days - in California, where they live, it is hot in summer.

          What can I say, not everyone in California has relatives, we all get information from the "web".
          We are here the British all sorts of instills about the war. Here is from fresh

          Daily Mail (UK): New civil war is tearing America apart

          https://inosmi.ru/politic/20200920/248160990.html

          Yes, and they talk in California these days it's hot. Are they lying?





          What are the claims? A man cuts loot without straining too much - well done, those who listen to him and take him seriously, obviously do not differ in their outstanding intelligence ...

          And besides emotions, what is there? What, in fact, does he not say so?

          No offense, but I wouldn't give that medicine to a homeless dog - I love animals.

          No problem. What grudges? In which case, treat yourself the old fashioned way, brilliant green.
          1. Accidentally Offline Accidentally
            Accidentally 21 September 2020 11: 20
            -3
            123- drunk with a glass will tell a lot ... I will not write further comments
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 21 September 2020 11: 37
              +4
              123- drunk with a glass will tell a lot ...

              Listen to your drunkenness. Everyone is free to choose what suits him. yes

              I will not write further comments

              ABOUT! This is a huge loss. belay It's a pity of course, crying but I will survive winked
              1. Accidentally Offline Accidentally
                Accidentally 22 September 2020 11: 44
                -1
                Somehow in the 80s they gathered for a graduation party ... classmate Vovochka N came from the office of the girl, he was asked about the Georgians who seized the plane - every hour people were shot down. He served in the personal security of E Shevardnadze. you know that. I told a lot after a couple of glasses. I forgot years when the events happened, and when the Union collapsed I fled to Rossiyushka
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 22 September 2020 12: 12
                  +1
                  Somehow in the 80s they gathered for a graduation party ... classmate Vovochka N came from the office of the girl, he was asked about the Georgians who seized the plane - every hour people were shot down. He served in the personal security of E Shevardnadze. you know that. I told a lot after a couple of glasses. I forgot years when the events happened, and when the Union collapsed I fled to Rossiyushka

                  Why are you doing it? You promised ... Just nastalgiruete on classmates? I don't even know what to say to you. Can you listen to a song?

        2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 20 September 2020 22: 27
          +6
          Quote: Bindyuzhnik
          I have not heard, enlighten - when, who, how did it attempt?

          We look at the wreckage of the Malaysian Boeing. Can you see the tricolor? Of course, there is only red and blue, but white is easily painted with the color of the fuselage.
          Further, we recall that it was at this hour that Putin was flying from Paris to Rostov-on-Don. At a distance of some 200 km from the ill-fated Boeing. But further north. Voloshin was raised to visually identify the plane. In Romania and the Czech Republic, they were raised by AWACS for stereo imaging. F-22 departs from Poland.
          And everything worked out! Voloshin has no idea how the presidential plane is painted, but he sees the tricolor (from afar), the plane is taken to the side and down, the F-22 launches a rocket, the avaks aim the missile at the plane - Poroshenko congratulates Obama on solving all the problems! Forty minutes later, Putin lands in Rostov-on-Don. And hysteria begins with covering up the tracks. The wreckage is taken to Holland, the data of the Ukrainian radars is destroyed, and the negotiations of the pilots with the Ukrainian dispatcher are erased in the "black box" exported to England. The dispatcher himself disappears without a trace. The play continues.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 20 September 2020 23: 26
            +3
            Small addition. Poroshenko's falcon Voloshin later shot himself. True, the mouthpiece of the Kremlin propaganda of the BBC claims that the case was opened after the murder.

            The police opened a case under the article "premeditated murder" and plans to consider all versions that could lead to the tragedy, including the situation related to the Nikolaev airport.

            https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/features-russian-43464227
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 September 2020 00: 31
              -4
              Fuuu .... Are you supporting this nonsense about Putin's confused plane and a Malaysian Boeing in the skies over Donbass? Fu again. This is disappointing.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 21 September 2020 01: 44
                +4
                Fuuu .... you assent to this nonsense about Putin's confused plane and a Malaysian Boeing in the sky over the Donbass? Fu again. This is disappointing.

                I don’t agree, but I supplement it. There are many dark spots in this story. The above is only a version, and no worse than the stories of how the rebels shot down the plane with only one launcher at their disposal. It also has a lot of gaps and edges do not converge with edges, but there are many interesting details.
                1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                  Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 September 2020 12: 13
                  -2
                  Quote: 123
                  The above is only a version, and no worse than stories

                  This version is worse than others, because it is complete nonsense. Based on the assumption that either Putin's guards are complete clinical, plotting the route of his aircraft through the territory of a country with which the Russian Federation is actually in a state of hostilities, or the same clinical Americans with Ukrainians, as they catch the president's plane over Donbas when he is at a distance of missile launch did not fit into Ukrainian airspace.
                  Then the version about the intervention of the reptilians is not worse.
                  About the rebels is also an unlikely version, but at least it doesn't give off such clinical nonsense.
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 21 September 2020 13: 20
                    +4
                    About the rebels is also an unlikely version, but at least it doesn't give off such clinical nonsense.

                    True? Rebels shot down a plane with one car? Perhaps you are right, this is not clinical delusion, this is schizophrenia. fool It is impossible to use it with one car. Look at your leisure what is included in the complex.

                    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бук_(ЗРК)

                    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 September 2020 22: 24
                      -2
                      Quote: 123
                      Perhaps you are right, this is not a clinical delusion, this is schizophrenia.

                      Schizophrenia is seeing all around conspiracies against the adored great helmsman and galley slave rolled into one.

                      Quote: 123
                      It is impossible to use it with one car.

                      You underestimate Soviet engineers. On your one Shrike and no battery? I'm certainly not an expert, but each launcher is equipped with its own radar.



                      It is said that each BUK launcher is capable of independently detecting a target and guiding a missile.



                      Look at your leisure.
                      1. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 21 September 2020 23: 35
                        +4
                        You underestimate Soviet engineers. On your one Shrike and no battery? I'm certainly not an expert, but each launcher is equipped with its own radar.

                        First video. (13:48) "The battery consists of a self-propelled reconnaissance and guidance station and four launchers." At (9:38) it says - on one self-propelled vehicle (that is, on one machine) a station for detecting, tracking and illuminating a target is installed. "This is precisely a" self-propelled reconnaissance and guidance station. "
                        I got to the militia:

                        all equipment was removed from unit A-1402, including the Buks, about two months ago, and the militia were able to capture only one launch-loading vehicle (it only looks like a Buk missile launcher)

                        https://www.rbc.ru/newspaper/2014/07/21/56be2e5d9a7947299f72ccd0

                        Here's a



                        They could not knock anything out of it, especially since it was not working.
                        The NSDC spokesman Andrei Lysenko the next day confirmed the fact of the transfer of the unit under the control of the rebels. “By the decision of the commander, all equipment was put out of action and does not work, the militants were left with only the territory. They are also occupied by the headquarters of the air defense unit, ”he said. Dmitrashkovsky then said that the Buk was “non-working”. "The rest of the workers are at other strategic facilities," - said the representative of the Ukrainian command.

                        https://www.rbc.ru/newspaper/2014/07/21/56be2e5d9a7947299f72ccd0

                        Ukraine, when talking about the Russian "Buk" meant a self-propelled gun mount



                        So, they could not bring down anything.

                        Schizophrenia is seeing all around conspiracies against the adored great helmsman and galley slave rolled into one.

                        Let me disagree with you, the opinion based on the data of Ukrainian propaganda, especially without taking into account real facts and technical data, is much more suited to the definition of schizophrenia. For you have irrational obsessive beliefs that you are right.
                        As for the helmsman, I believe this is due to your worries about Alexei Navalny and the fate of your fellow punishers, calm down Lelik is already recovering, and the punishers will get theirs.
                      2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 23 September 2020 01: 25
                        -1
                        Quote: 123
                        First video. (13:48) "The battery consists of a self-propelled reconnaissance and guidance station and four launchers." At (9:38) it says - on one self-propelled vehicle (that is, on one machine) a station for detecting, tracking and illuminating a target is installed. "This is precisely a" self-propelled reconnaissance and guidance station. "

                        As always, you are inattentive, you absolutely messed everything up. The first half of the film tells about the KUB air defense system, and accordingly all your quotes are also about it.
                        At 18:44 it is said that the "Achilles pit" of the CUBA is the only radar, if it is defeated, the entire battery becomes unusable.

                        Quote: 123
                        https://www.rbc.ru/newspaper/2014/07/21/56be2e5d9a7947299f72ccd0

                        Here's a

                        Kurginyan pleased


                        In this photo, SOU

                        Quote: 123
                        So, they could not bring down anything.

                        Who are you arguing with? I do not believe the militias were able to rebuild, find a crew for the beech and shoot down this unfortunate Boeing. I just said that this version does not look as desecration of common sense as the version of hunting for GDP.

                        Quote: 123
                        Let me disagree with you, the opinion based on the data of Ukrainian propaganda, especially without taking into account real facts and technical data, is much more suited to the definition of schizophrenia. For you have irrational obsessive beliefs that you are right.

                        I will not let it. Please answer the question, do you consider a sane version, in which the flight of the Russian president's plane is supposed, after the annexation of Crimea and the outbreak of hostilities in the East, over the territory of Ukraine in general and over the Donbas in particular? And then let's talk about irrational and schizophrenia. And "real facts and technical data" at the same time.

                        Quote: 123
                        As for the helmsman, I believe this is due to your worries about Alexei Navalny and the fate of your fellow punishers, calm down Lelik is already recovering, and the punishers will get theirs.

                        Brave if you please?
        3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 September 2020 00: 54
          -2
          Yes Yes Yes.
          Ukrainians in the 21st century determine the plane at 10 km height by coloring. They did not know that Putin was flying from Brazil to Moscow and how he could not be over Donbass. An attack aircraft that was not designed to fly at such heights with such speeds was sent for identification. And they did not know about the Flightradar24 application for the phone, which, without any attack aircraft, will help determine what kind of plane is above you.
          They forgot to tell Voloshin that Putin was flying a four-engined Il, not a twin-engined Boeing.
          What a good F-22. RF radars did not notice him 100 km from the border.
          And it all worked out.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 21 September 2020 01: 51
            +2
            Yes Yes Yes.
            Ukrainians in the 21st century determine the plane at 10 km altitude by coloring They did not know that Putin was flying from Brazil to Moscow and how he could not be over Donbass.
            An attack aircraft that was not designed to fly at such heights with such speeds was sent for identification. And they did not know about the Flightradar24 application for the phone, which, without any attack aircraft, will help determine which plane is above you.
            They forgot to tell Voloshin that Putin is flying a four-engine Il, and not a twin-engine Boeing.
            What a good F-22. RF radars did not notice him 100 km from the border.
            And it all worked out.

            You crushed everything so confidently laughing Everything became clear and straightforward, well, almost. Photos from the Flightradar24 app have you accidentally been lying around with a picture of the route of the plane of Putin or Trump, say? No matter how much I looked at the application, I never came across it. Maybe they stopped flying?
            Can you have your own version of events? Would you like to share?
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 September 2020 12: 31
              0
              Quote: 123
              Photos from the Flightradar24 application have you accidentally been lying around with the image of the route of the plane of Putin or, say, Trump?

              Go to https://www.flightradar24.com/
              in the search you drive in RA-96020, RA-96021, RA-96022, RA-96023 and you will be happy. 20 and 23 are just now flying from Sochi.

              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 21 September 2020 13: 26
                +2
                Go to https://www.flightradar24.com/
                - in the search you drive in RA-96020, RA-96021, RA-96022, RA-96023 and you will be happy. 20 and 23 are just now flying from Sochi.

                And in which of them is Putin? 20th or 22nd? winked
                Recently, the Americans were "wheeled into a barrel", their reconnaissance aircraft flew in the Far East, and then the signal changed, its equipment began to transmit the signal that it was a civilian aircraft. Don't you find that visual control in this situation is not superfluous?
                1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                  Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 September 2020 22: 41
                  -1
                  Quote: 123
                  And in which of them is Putin? 20th or 22nd?

                  Most likely at 23, or maybe not at some. Do you think the pilot Voloshin was supposed to fly on a slow-speed plane and look into the windows, will not the GDP wave to him?

                  Quote: 123
                  Recently, the Americans were "wheeled into a barrel", their reconnaissance aircraft flew in the Far East, and then the signal changed, its equipment began to transmit the signal that it was a civilian aircraft.

                  Something I have not heard of this, you will not throw a reference? Do you think that this can be done with the respondent of the presidential plane? And this is not paranoia?

                  Quote: 123
                  Don't you find that visual control in this situation is not superfluous?

                  In this, this is in what? What do you want to consider on a plane?
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 21 September 2020 23: 50
                    +3
                    Most likely at 23, or maybe not at some.

                    Here I am about the same. It is not always possible to determine exactly what kind of aircraft in the air. Eye contact can help determine what kind of aircraft it is.

                    Do you think the pilot Voloshin should have flown on a slow-speed plane and looked into the windows, will not the GDP wave to him?

                    I don't think so. What he did there, we will no longer be told. I believe that Ukraine is destroying all data related to the disaster. There is no radar data, the dispatcher disappeared, the pilot "shot himself".

                    Something I have not heard of this, you will not throw a reference? And this is not paranoia?

                    I'm afraid of a problem with a reference. Information came across where within a week. I do not keep archives with links "suddenly come in handy". Where it was now is difficult to find.

                    Do you think this can be done with the respondent of the presidential plane?

                    I say that it is technically possible.

                    And this is not paranoia?

                    Are you afraid of this? laughing

                    In this, this is in what? What do you want to consider on a plane?

                    For example the tail number.
                    How do we know what he flew there and what was his mission?
                    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 23 September 2020 10: 47
                      -1
                      Quote: 123
                      Here I am about the same. It is not always possible to determine exactly what kind of aircraft in the air. Eye contact can help determine what kind of aircraft it is.

                      Well, if the plane is unidentified, then yes. But Mh17 was identified and controlled by a Ukrainian dispatcher and they were preparing to transfer it to a Russian one.

                      Quote: 123
                      I believe that Ukraine is destroying all data related to the disaster. There is no radar data, the dispatcher disappeared, the pilot "shot himself".

                      Well, of course, the world woman is a Masonic conspiracy, and there is no paranoia in this.

                      Quote: 123
                      I'm afraid of a problem with a reference. Information came across where within a week. I do not keep archives with links "suddenly come in handy". Where it was now is difficult to find.

                      Well, of course, I immediately found the news where the Swedes accuse the Russian Federation of creating a dangerous situation in the air due to a disabled transponder.

                      Quote: 123
                      I say that it is technically possible.

                      I'm not sure if this makes sense. The transponder number is assigned during takeoff by the dispatcher and has read that if you set the wrong number, then the mark on the radars will be designated as unidentified.

                      Quote: 123
                      Are you afraid of this?

                      I don’t. I'm worried about you.

                      Quote: 123
                      For example the tail number.
                      How do we know what he flew there and what was his mission?

                      Do you think every plane flying through the Russian Federation is accompanied by attack aircraft?
          2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 21 September 2020 17: 20
            +3
            Quote: Oleg Rambover
            Putin flew from Brazil to Moscow

            Putin flew from Paris to Rostov-on-Don. This was known 3 days before departure. The Americans could not put controllers at every control room. They did not know the plane's transponder number, because up to 5 business jets leave Paris every hour. Switzerland and Poland are not controlled. There was a PROBABILITY that Putin would fly by the international corridor. Therefore, we quickly figured out the operation Y. Again, the probability was negligible. Putin flew through the Russian military corridor. And Voloshin made a mistake. The operation worked.
            The fact is that there is no Buk missile on Russian radars. Absolutely. And the Americans hide the result of observing their 12 reconnaissance satellites (+ 18 more unknown purposes, which were in the disaster visibility zone). If it were, they would yell at the entire planet. After all, Trump posted a photo of an Iranian rocket that exploded at the launch site in Chirikalka. With a resolution of 20 cm.
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 September 2020 23: 17
              -2
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              Putin flew from Paris to Rostov-on-Don.

              http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/46236
              17 GDP was in Brazil.

              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              They did not know the transponder number of the plane, because up to 5 business jets leave Paris every hour. Switzerland and Poland are not controlled.

              Who is not under control? Anyone can see in real time the flight of any aircraft equipped with the responder on .flightradar24, and the Americans are not so smart that they cannot.

              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              There was a PROBABILITY that Putin would fly by the international corridor.

              I think the probability in such cases is insufficient.

              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              Again, the probability was negligible. Putin flew through the Russian military corridor. And Voloshin made a mistake. The operation worked.

              What is a military corridor? Why is Putin's plane in general afraid to fly over Ukraine and in the sky of Donbass? In the picture above, the presidential plane bypasses the border for 500 kilometers (as opposed to commercial) and this is logical.

              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              The fact is that there is no Buk missile on Russian radars. Absolutely.

              What is the ESR of Buka? Less than 0,1 m2? Are Russian radars capable of detecting such a small target at such a distance?

              All this is nonsense, the main thing is not clear why. For the West, GDP is an excellent president.
          3. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 21 September 2020 17: 26
            +1
            Quote: Oleg Rambover
            What a good F-22. RF radars did not notice him 100 km from the border.

            First, he was in the depths of Ukraine. And he shot from a distance of about 100 km. The rocket was silent, but guided by AWACS. No wonder there were 2. Stereo.
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 September 2020 23: 23
              -1
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              First, he was in the depths of Ukraine. And he shot from a distance of about 100 km.

              Radar Enemy-GE detects targets up to 400 km.
              In short, all these are your fantasies, and they are unfounded.
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 22 September 2020 12: 29
                +2
                What is the purpose? Boeing?
                The fact that for three years the absence of striking elements was protested (showing indistinct 5 mm pieces of iron) unambiguously says that the fragments were of American production. Only when they received the full range of Buk's striking elements, in the FIVE year they showed a handful of purchased cast iron of the required standard size. 5 years looking for striking elements from Buk! The accused were found through publications on social networks. Those who wrote in plain text - we shot down Boeing! Considering the modern legal practice of the West, the Internet is iron proof. No investigation is needed. Neither Buk's path from Kursk to Donbass, nor back. The pinched ziped photo posted by the anonymous author in the Ukrainian muzzle book became the basis of the entire accusation. Even identification of the area is not necessary, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Ukraine or East Germany in the picture.
                1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                  Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 23 September 2020 15: 56
                  -2
                  Some kind of stream of consciousness. The beauty of conspiracy theories, they are impossible to refute. Nobody saw F22, but he was there and try to refute it, he's invisible. Avaksa too, no one sees or heard, try to prove that they were not. Shards of beech were shown back in October 14, they bought it on ebay. The flight of Putin's plane over Ukraine in '14 is complete madness, what little things. Almaz Antey tells where the beech took off from, participates in a conspiracy. An attack on a country's plane is an act of aggression and complete madness to do it with a nuclear country with the second army of the world, what little things, Americans are completely stupid people.
                  1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
                    Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 23 September 2020 16: 10
                    +3
                    Well, it is still more logical than the lone Buk's march from Kursk to Donbass, will roll out into position, shoot at the plane, which the Ukrainian dispatcher accidentally took 4 km north of the corridor and lowered to 9 thousand meters (the corridor is located at 10-11,5 km) , and on jet propulsion returned to Kursk, where the heroic crew on Facebook, classmates and VKontakte boasted of marching and shooting. This is from the official investigation. Brains from logic have not boiled?
                    Boeing - Malaysian. Ukraine is the IAC's area of ​​responsibility. Neither the IAC nor the Malaysians were allowed to the investigation. The black box returned to Malaysia is missing the last 10 minutes of the crew's negotiations with the dispatcher. The dispatcher cannot be found. The Russian radar recording of the air situation at the time of the disaster was deemed insignificant. Whose stream of consciousness did all this? Divine? Or American?
                    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 24 September 2020 15: 09
                      -2
                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      Well, it is still more logical than the lone Buk's march from Kursk to Donbass, will roll out into position, shoot at the plane, which the Ukrainian dispatcher accidentally took 4 km north of the corridor and lowered to 9 thousand meters (the corridor is located at 10-11,5 km) , and on jet propulsion returned to Kursk, where the heroic crew on Facebook, classmates and VKontakte boasted of marching and shooting.

                      Compared to the hunt for Putin's plane over Donbass, even the version with aliens is nothing to look at.

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      This is from the official investigation.

                      This is from someone's fantasy.

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      Boeing - Malaysian. Ukraine is the IAC's area of ​​responsibility. Neither the IAC nor the Malaysians were allowed to the investigation.

                      One very little moment. IAC disagrees with you.

                      https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/1326478

                      Malaysians are included in the investigation team.

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      The black box returned to Malaysia is missing the last 10 minutes of the crew's negotiations with the dispatcher.

                      Fantasy?

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      The record of Russian radars about the air situation at the time of the disaster was deemed insignificant.

                      Fantasy again? And what's on these recordings?

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      Whose stream of consciousness did all this? Divine? Or American?

                      I don't know, most likely yours.
                    2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
                      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 24 September 2020 15: 52
                      +2
                      Quote: Oleg Rambover
                      One very little moment. IAC disagrees with you.

                      Naturally. This is 100% of his competence, but since he was not allowed to investigate, he demanded the creation of an international commission under the patronage of ICAO. But the case was handed over to the usual CRIMINAL investigation in Holland ... And what does Holland have to do with the disaster? The Dutch were at the helm? Was the plane Dutch? Did the disaster take place in Holland? No. And there are no aviation accident specialists in Holland. There is only one explanation - the Dutch do not care about the investigation. Their task is to play for time to forget the disaster.

                      Malaysians are included in the investigation team.

                      But the Malaysian prime minister complained that the Malaysians are not allowed to investigate. They are like liaison officers - they are told what they have found, but the Malaysians themselves do not observe the process of finds.
                      The Malaysian prime minister also reported on the interference in the black box and the absence of the last 10 minutes of negotiations. Since the decryption was carried out in Britain, it is clearly not Putin's hand. Obama.
                      Maybe you know the location of the dispatcher? And then his testimony, like the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, and the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense of Ukraine, and the interrogation of Voloshin, and the testimony of Russian radars - the Dutch investigation is not interested. Apparently, their nicknames on the Internet do not know ...
                    3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 25 September 2020 02: 03
                      -1
                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      Naturally. This is 100% of his competence, but since he was not allowed to investigate, he demanded the creation of an international commission under the patronage of ICAO.

                      What makes you think that 100%?

                      "The Interstate Aviation Committee proceeds from the fact that the investigation should be carried out in accordance with Appendix 13 of the Chicago Convention of the International Civil Aviation Organization," the message says.

                      We read Appendix 13,

                      5.1 The State of Occurrence will initiate an investigation into the circumstances of the accident and is responsible for such investigation, however, it may delegate all or part of this investigation to another State or regional accident investigation organization by mutual agreement and agreement. In any event, the State of Scene will use all means to facilitate this investigation.

                      What was violated in the transfer of the investigation to the Netherlands?

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      But the case was given to the usual CRIMINAL investigation in Holland ...

                      You are wrong, the technical investigation was conducted by the "Dutch Safety Council", this body specializes in finding the causes of accidents, disasters, including those in transport. He named the cause of the disaster.
                      The criminal investigation is being carried out by the Joint Investigation Group (JIT), whose task is to find those responsible for this tragedy.

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      The Dutch were at the helm? Was the plane Dutch? Did the disaster take place in Holland? No.

                      Most of the victims are Dutch citizens, the Netherlands has the right to investigate crimes committed against their citizens.

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      There is only one explanation - the Dutch do not care about the investigation. Their task is to play for time to forget the disaster.

                      These are your fantasies

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      But the Malaysian prime minister complained that the Malaysians are not allowed to investigate. They are like liaison officers - they are told what they have found, but the Malaysians themselves do not observe the process of finds.

                      Can I quote?

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      The Malaysian prime minister also reported on the intervention in the black box and the absence of the last 10 minutes of negotiations.

                      Can I quote?

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      Maybe you know the location of the dispatcher?

                      No, I do not know. Do you know the location of the Rostov dispatcher?

                      Quote: Oo sarcasm
                      And then his testimony, like the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, and the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense of Ukraine, and the interrogation of Voloshin, and the testimony of Russian radars - the Dutch investigation is not interested.

                      Should it? Especially Voloshin. Do not remind me how the story with the Russian radars ended. It seems at first they said that the data was not saved?
  4. magma Offline magma
    magma (Tatyana) 21 September 2020 09: 37
    +2
    I wouldn't give the medicine to a stray dog

    - if it squeezes, and you get drunk from the "puddle"
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 21 September 2020 14: 07
      -4
      My dear, I have a different upbringing - I would rather drown in a puddle of someone who tries to squeeze me. angry
  5. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 22 September 2020 01: 17
    0
    No offense, but I wouldn't give that medicine to a homeless dog - I love animals.

    It may very well be that you are right. hi Not being a specialist, it's not easy to figure it out. What is it really necessary to understand.
    There is such information:

    https://www.youtube.com/post/UgwoLkPldhzdBg7Clgd4AaABCQ
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 21 September 2020 09: 08
    0
    Yasha is really sliding more and more from analytics to shocking statements that require detailed comments, but which are not. When the coordinate system of the thesis is not indicated, then this thesis is nothing more than a provocation. In principle, his right, but the purpose of his speeches has changed a lot.
  • rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 September 2020 08: 03
    +1
    Ha, you can see that you are jealous, nobody needs your opinion. But Yakov is really a respected expert and says sensible things
  • margo Offline margo
    margo (margo) 21 September 2020 17: 55
    0
    this empty talker is just fooling

    - he is paid for this and not small
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 20 September 2020 21: 59
    -4
    Cadmi in her repertoire. He wants to pit everyone against himself.

    Naturally, if only there was an opportunity to kill / lie / rig votes / analyzes / bomb with impunity, then everyone would do it.

    Impunity, it attracts ...
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 20 September 2020 22: 28
      +4
      Naturally, if only there was an opportunity to kill / lie / rig votes / analyzes / bomb with impunity, then everyone would do it.
      Impunity, it attracts ...

      Don't judge everyone by yourself hi
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  • Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
    Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 20 September 2020 22: 49
    +5
    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    Quote: 123
    There have been attempts on Putin's life and will probably still be.

    I have not heard, enlighten - when, who, how did it attempt?

    Quote: 123
    The United States has never been shy about eliminating opponents.

    The USSR did not lag behind in this matter.

    Quote: 123
    American Civil War? Until she essentially goes

    I must disappoint you - life in the United States goes on as usual, people work, rest, buy real estate. A daughter and her son-in-law are looking for a summer house in the mountains of Colorado these days - in California, where they live, it is hot in summer.

    Quote: 123
    In general, I do not quite understand the essence of the claims.

    What are the claims? A man cuts loot without straining too much - well done, those who listen to him and take him seriously, obviously do not differ in their outstanding intelligence ...

    Quote: 123
    By the way, they say we have made the medicine.

    No offense, but I wouldn't give that medicine to a homeless dog - I love animals.

    Facts in the studio, who and when from the leaders of states was eliminated by the USSR and how many color revolutions it organized, or you just say something, but the grass won't grow there?
    1. Siberian southerner (Sergey A) 20 September 2020 23: 35
      -3
      Let's be honest. Afghanistan ... Wash it 1972. The storming of the castle by the Alpha group. Everyone has a stigma in a cannon, and someone has a fluff to the very heels.
      1. Siberian southerner (Sergey A) 20 September 2020 23: 37
        -1
        Of course, you cannot compare with the hearth of democracy, there is a list of ogogo ...
      2. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
        Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 21 September 2020 00: 12
        +1
        Well, with Amin, everything is ambiguous, he came to power as a result of a bloody coup and the assassination of Taraki, so the question of his legitimacy was controversial. The USSR had fears that he would cooperate with the CIA in the future, so it was decided to liquidate him. In general, it should be said here, that the USSR entered the troops at the request of the Afghan leadership, to fight the Mujahideen. Well, in principle, you can agree ... yes ... with all the nuances ... but, apart from Afghanistan, was there anything else like that? compared to how many times it did the americans
    2. g1washntwn Offline g1washntwn
      g1washntwn (George Washington) 21 September 2020 06: 23
      -1
      Quote: Stanislav Bykov
      just to say something, and there the grass does not grow

      This is exactly what it is. This is the era of post truth. A loud fake info-reason is deposited in the subconscious more than the counter-facts given after it. This applies even to individuals with developed analytical thinking. And for those who have a hamburger instead of hemispheres, a chicken running around the yard is more important than a burning hut.
    3. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 21 September 2020 14: 38
      -2
      Quote: Stanislav Bykov
      Facts in the studio, who and when from the leaders of states was eliminated by the USSR and how many color revolutions it organized, or you just say something, but the grass won't grow there?

      You, apparently, megalomania - Yakubovich imagined themselves? laughing In fact, one of the participants in the discussion answered you very succinctly:

      Quote: AlexZN
      Are you serious? How old are you? I can throw you a dozen heads of foreign countries and at least as many revolutions / coups. If you think about it, then about twenty.

      I will only note that the history of the USSR began with the villainous murder of the royal family, and is replete with the murder of political figures, both domestic and foreign. What is Stalin's great terror - the massive physical elimination of political competitors. And Kedmi is trying to accuse someone overseas of the desire to physically eliminate Putin - a circus, and that's all!
      1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
        Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 21 September 2020 15: 46
        0
        You don't tell me about the INTERNAL history of Russia, and about which of the politicians Stalin eliminated, there was a lot of things, I clearly asked you which of the FOREIGN leaders and politicians liquidated the USSR except Amin, especially in the style of how the Americans killed Suleimani, there is no answer- spin the drum further.
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 21 September 2020 16: 31
          -2
          You will poke your homies in the pub. And if there is a desire to find information on the topic - Google to help, I'm not an educational program to conduct free history lessons. hi
          1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
            Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 21 September 2020 16: 52
            +1
            The drain is counted, if you do not know anything, it would be better to be silent, and not nodded to Google laughing
        2. Cyril Offline Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 22 September 2020 11: 05
          -2
          except for Amin

          What, Amin got out of your slender picture of the "peace-loving USSR"? And here are a couple more:

          Landau, Kurt - Austrian leftist politician, publicist and anti-Stalinist politician. Kidnapped and killed by the NKVD.

          Andru Nin - Spanish leader of the communist movement, publicist, anti-Stalinist, killed by agents of the NKVD.
  • Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 21 September 2020 05: 26
    +1
    As already tired of this "expert" - every barrel has a plug.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 21 September 2020 09: 10
    +1
    Quote: rotkiv04
    Ha, you can see that you are jealous, nobody needs your opinion. But Yakov is really a respected expert and says sensible things

    And no longer insolent?
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 21 September 2020 09: 18
    +1
    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
    Well, with Amin, everything is ambiguous, he came to power as a result of a bloody coup and the assassination of Taraki, so the question of his legitimacy was controversial. The USSR had fears that he would cooperate with the CIA in the future, so it was decided to liquidate him. In general, it should be said here, that the USSR entered the troops at the request of the Afghan leadership, to fight the Mujahideen. Well, in principle, you can agree ... yes ... with all the nuances ... but, apart from Afghanistan, was there anything else like that? compared to how many times it did the americans

    You have strange knowledge of history ... You see who signed a mutual assistance agreement between the USSR and Afghanistan, referring to which the troops were sent! Strange, but it was signed by Amin ... Look who asked to send troops! And again weirdness - Amin! The next oddity is the elimination of the legitimate President of Afghanistan and the introduction of troops, all with reference to the UN Charter.
    Well, for a snack - the mujahideen, apparently the same ones who were initiated by Iran?
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  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 21 September 2020 09: 22
    -1
    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
    Facts in the studio, who and when from the leaders of states was eliminated by the USSR and how many color revolutions it organized, or you just say something, but the grass won't grow there?

    Are you serious? How old are you? I can throw you a dozen heads of foreign countries and at least as many revolutions / coups. If you think about it, then about twenty.
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  • Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 21 September 2020 14: 46
    0
    They did not have any moral boundaries, and never will. The only question is expediency

    Cool. A Jew, a former employee of the "Zionist special services" says what the jingoistic patriots want to hear and earns money from them. And hurray-patriots, having forgotten about the "vile Jews" at once, listen to it with pleasure.

    Regarding the quoted statement. ANY ruler of ANY country always considers the option of eliminating high-ranking officials, including the leaders of other states (especially a potential enemy), guided by the same principle of expediency. Examples from the history of our country:

    Hafizullah Amin (ruler of Afghanistan) - liquidated by the USSR special forces;

    Leon Trotsky - killed by an NKVD agent;

    Theodore Romzha - Greek Catholic priest, killed by NKVD agents;

    Landau, Kurt - Austrian leftist politician, publicist and anti-Stalinist politician. Kidnapped and killed by the NKVD.

    Andru Nin - Spanish leader of the communist movement, publicist, anti-Stalinist, killed by agents of the NKVD.

    Also, the Soviet special services were directly or indirectly involved in the murder of two Bulgarian dissidents, some leaders of the White movement, when they were already in exile, and some other objectionable persons.

    And no one has ever had any morality in this.
  • Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 21 September 2020 17: 22
    0
    "The inexorable and reliable as an ice pick principle" no man - no problem "did not allow Trotsky to finish the book to the end."
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 21 September 2020 19: 06
    -1
    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
    You don't tell me about the INTERNAL history of Russia, and about which of the politicians Stalin eliminated, there was a lot of things, I clearly asked you which of the FOREIGN leaders and politicians liquidated the USSR except Amin, especially in the style of how the Americans killed Suleimani, there is no answer- spin the drum further.

    How is Suleimani? Elementary! - Dudaev. True, Suleimani is NOT a statesman, and Dudayev is the president of the country (at least the republic)
    1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
      Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 21 September 2020 19: 33
      +1
      Soleimani is the head of the separatist state of America? What does Suleimani have to do with the United States in general? Dudayev is the president of what country? He is an ordinary separatist, and he is also a terrorist, so there is no need to compare and write nonsense
    2. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
      Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 21 September 2020 19: 53
      +1
      What right did the Americans have to touch Soleimani? His elimination is for a good reason to declare war. The Americans want to live according to concepts, not according to the laws? I will upset you, such a number will not work with Russia, even the United States without teeth, at least any other country very quickly will be without teeth
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 21 September 2020 20: 59
    -3
    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
    Soleimani is the head of the separatist state of America? What does Suleimani have to do with the United States in general? Dudayev is the president of what country? He is an ordinary separatist, and he is also a terrorist, so there is no need to compare and write nonsense

    You may not know, but Soleimani is a general of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, declared a terrorist organization in the United States. With tz. The USA is the legal elimination of a terrorist involved in the murder of several Americans.
    Dudayev is a separatist, Suleimani is a terrorist, and both are worthy of their fate.
    1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
      Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 21 September 2020 21: 39
      +2
      You do not grasp or do not want to grasp the essence that I am trying to convey to you, Nobody considered Suleimani a terrorist except in Israel and the United States, and he was a citizen of Iran, that is, ANOTHER country, while Dudayev was liquidated during the CIVIL war by federal forces on territory of Russia, the comparison between them in general from any side is not appropriate, I say again, the United States acts only where they know that they will not have a tough military response, any person can be called a terrorist and liquidated, the only exception is Russia and China, contact with which the United States will never risk
      1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
        Alexzn (Alexander) 22 September 2020 07: 40
        -1
        I catch everything. The points. In addition to Israel and the United States, the IRGC has been recognized as terrorist in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.
        In the South. Ossetia, it seems, also had a civil war, but this did not prevent Russia from occupying it and sending troops to Georgia ... At least this is how it looks from the side of Georgia (and not only).
        Don't look for easy ways in explaining the outside world. In your system, the good guards of the Islamic revolution are fighting the bad warriors of the Islamic state ... Brad! These Islamists differ only in that some are Shiites and others are Sunnis, and this is where the fundamental difference between them ends.
        I admit that the Americans, taking on the mission of the world gendarme, abuse force and liquidation, but not always and not only they, and this does not make the USSR and the Russian Federation (to a lesser extent) white and fluffy.