"So that Russians do not receive billions": Finns on criticism of the Russian vaccine against COVID-19

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Another article about the Russian vaccine against COVID-19 was published by the largest Finnish publication Iltalehti. The object of criticism this time was a scientific work in the British medical journal The Lancet, which spoke about the principles of operation of Sputnik-V.


The Finnish edition notes that at least 24 researchers from around the world signed an open letter criticizing the text previously published in The Lancet. There is a suspicion that the data presented in it was incorrect or even falsified.

In particular, it is noted that the same indicators were observed in subjects from different observed groups, which in reality is almost impossible. In particular, this is the opinion of Enrico Bucci, professor of biology at Temple University (Philadelphia).

It is highly unlikely that so many repeating results were obtained. This is the same as rolling the dice, knocking out the same numbers in a row several times.

- Iltalehti cites expert opinion.

To date, Finnish users of the World Wide Web have left more than a hundred reviews under the article. Some of them are presented below.

I think this vaccine only applies to opposition leaders

- a certain Veikko_Vitikainen_16065 notes ironically.

This time, a possible deception will be discovered as soon as this satellite begins to be used in other countries of the world.

- expressed the opinion of AlfoinOraaikkeli.

It’s incredible that the Lancet missed out on such a murky exploration. Alarm calls should always ring when it comes to something Russian

- noticed SJ10.

That's amazing, who would have thought? After all, Russia never lies!

- exclaims the user TotuudeTorvi.

I hope that the Russians will really come up with a cure and will not pass it on to anyone until these attacks in their direction are over. The Russians were the first many times in other things. What is the point of yapping at Russia?

- reminds the reader Jormanainenko.

There are more than a million infected in Russia, and the death rate is many times higher than in Finland. This is only according to the data provided by the authorities. The reality is much harsher. There is a taste of deceit in this rush to develop a drug

- JB_26629 expressed his opinion.

The vaccination program from the European Commission was suspended, so now, of course, we must focus on sabotaging the Russian program so that the Russian Federation does not crush this segment of the world market and receive billions of dollars. For some, business is more important than ending the pandemic

- complained Veeti_Sakari.

Do Russian scientists sleep well at night? I mean, knowing that many people in Venezuela and other countries can take this drug, even if there is no information about its effectiveness, not to mention the side effects

- notes Patelius123.

[Potential] side effects will obviously not be compensated in Russia. […] National interests require small sacrifices. And in the Russian Federation there are enough "guinea pigs". Especially if you can make a fortune with a new panacea. I think other states have the same motive. In no case should envy become a determining factor in this matter. Regardless of who, how and when invents a safe and effective vaccine, ending the pandemic is the most important thing. But it should happen without any new problems arising. Therefore, development is a laborious scientific work, and haste does not roll here, even if someone's presidential election is at stake.

- commented user Hutikuti.
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  1. King3214 Offline King3214
    King3214 (Sergius) 11 September 2020 12: 02
    +4
    Most Finns are not only brainwashed, but also scraped out by “propaganda”.
  2. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 11 September 2020 12: 09
    +4
    Finns don't pour any more.
  3. Georgievic Offline Georgievic
    Georgievic (Georgievic) 11 September 2020 16: 50
    +4
    It is enough to stop Sunday alcoholic drinks in St. Petersburg to get smarter!
  4. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
    Cudgel (Dubina) 11 September 2020 17: 43
    -9
    All the dates are correct. These vaccines are from the same series as Poseidon with Peresvet. The main thing is PR! On Google last week, when the page loaded, a window appeared, the text was something like this: Requires a million volunteers, US citizens, to test a vaccine. Americans need 1 million people, Gamaley cost 38 subjects and everyone under 30. The Gamaleic vaccine did not pass the third phase of trials, the third phase only began on 26 August.
    In England, a line for the production of an English vaccine was purchased, this is explained by the safety net. But most likely, the Gamaleic vaccine is not effective and will be produced in English.
    For the Presidential Administration, a vaccine was also purchased in England with 2500 doses, which is understandable - there is no trust. Ask any doctor if it is possible to replace the Western medicine with our analogue, he will say - it is possible, but not necessary, the Western one is many times more effective. Pharmaceuticals in the Russian Federation, in the same place as microelectronics and machine tools. Please note that if a person comes to be vaccinated against the flu, he will first of all ask for an imported vaccine. Likewise with dietary supplements and vitamins.
    Dates still spoke very delicately.
    But now there will be a howl from every iron: We are ahead of the West in vaccine production and this is another breakthrough of the knee lifter.
    1. Anchonsha Offline Anchonsha
      Anchonsha (Anchonsha) 11 September 2020 22: 17
      +2
      Dubina, you justify your nickname. Have you lost your mind and you also envy us in creating a vaccine? So you will proceed with anger endlessly, because Russia is a great country with great opportunities.
      1. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
        Cudgel (Dubina) 12 September 2020 14: 33
        -3
        What are you, son. When did I come out with malice? Russia is a Great Country, but the regime of the irreplaceable Great Combinator has driven the country into a technological hole, from which we will have to get out for more than a decade.
        Comrade, do not confuse the Country and the regime in it.
        1. gore Offline gore
          gore (Alexander) 13 September 2020 10: 07
          +3
          Dubina, answer one question honestly, without any sidetracking and any vague reasoning.
          And what did Putin do bad for you (PERSONALLY FOR YOU) ??? I know - there is no intelligible answer and there never will be, because for people like you, this question is essentially unanswered ...
          1. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
            Cudgel (Dubina) 13 September 2020 12: 46
            -5
            1. Lost time on the development of the country, according to the Chinese version. Where were the Chinese in 2000 and where are we? Yes, then our GDP was ahead of us, but their technical component was not better than ours.
            2. Huge money from the export of resources, this kind of money will never be, poured into the sand for all sorts of summits, World Championships, Olympics and into the pockets of his cronies, who have become billionaires from small St. Petersburg shuttles.
            3. From 1 to 2 trillion dollars were exported from the country. With this money it was possible to carry out a second Industrialization.
            4. I do not consider the Great Combinator to be an intelligent person, an ordinary, average statistical KGB guy. And a person with such mediocre abilities has already three times in one way or another changed the constitution for himself in order to rule forever. First, chairs were exchanged with Aifonchik, then 6 years, instead of 4. Well, the last "Scam of the Century" will go down in history, along with the Tushino Thieves.
            5. You look at his speeches not from a piece of paper. For two years now, it can be seen that a person is not all right with his head, age, however. Moreover, insanity is progressing. Do you really think that this scarecrow can reign for another 16 years on pills and injections? He will be used as a talking head by co-op friends, solving their problems.
            6. Yes, a certain category yells: "I revived the army!" Controversial, very controversial. I bought the loyalty of the military with salaries and mortgages.
            There was a hope that the candidate from the left and patriotic (not putriotic) forces, Grudinin, would throw off the Putin oligarchy, alas, Grudinin was defamed. So they would try in the economy, like the clearing of Putin's political opponents.
            Well, this is the main thing. There is still a bunch of little things, but I think that's enough.
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    3. margo Offline margo
      margo (margo) 15 September 2020 18: 03
      -2
      What time "Hurray patriots" crammed you cons. And you are right! Those who can - are treated in the decaying west, give birth there, get vaccinated, and the poor and beggars in their clinic.
  5. Anchonsha Offline Anchonsha
    Anchonsha (Anchonsha) 11 September 2020 22: 11
    +1
    But we considered the Finns to be good neighbors, but no, wolves always look into the forest. They also consider themselves to be the West, bastards, and also envy our successes with the vaccine. Strange people, the better we behave with them, the worse for us.
    1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 12 September 2020 06: 33
      -4
      What "successes" are there, this, generally speaking, is an ordinary fraudulent PR. A dozen countries are working on preparing the release of a vaccine, and almost all of them are at about the same stage - the third, most important stage of testing begins. This is where all the pitfalls appear. But in Russia they decided that the opportunity to become the first should not be missed - what a propaganda effect! We decided to combine the beginning of the third stage with mass vaccination. They say it is an extraordinary situation and the generally accepted international protocols can be neglected. Okay, if it was Ebola and things like that, then it would be possible to understand, but this is precisely a scam and an outright disregard for human lives. Well, in fact, they will die - women still give birth, and PR is most important. Even the long history with thalidomide is not scary, the main thing is to say - we are the first!
      1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
        Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 12 September 2020 06: 40
        -4
        By the way, the Russian vaccine against Ebola, which was widely advertised at one time, remained experimental and its effectiveness has not yet been confirmed, and the only one that received WHO registration is the vaccine from Merck (USA). Well, also Janssen at the exit.
      2. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
        Cudgel (Dubina) 12 September 2020 14: 30
        -4
        I support! For the sake of PR, they are ready to put thousands of lives under the knife. Well, we do not have pharmaceuticals, for 20 years of stability they destroyed what was left of the Soviets. All countries, with pharmaceuticals higher than ours by an order of magnitude, only started the 3rd stage and it's not a fact that everyone will pass it, but here, bang and Breakthrough!
        The regime no longer disdains anything in order to somehow justify the impending economic catastrophe.
        1. gore Offline gore
          gore (Alexander) 13 September 2020 10: 08
          +1
          And again - Dubina ...
      3. magma Offline magma
        magma (Tatyana) 13 September 2020 07: 35
        +2
        What "successes" are there, this, generally speaking, is an ordinary fraudulent PR.

        Do you have proof? Or do you just hate your homeland so much?
        1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
          Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 13 September 2020 07: 40
          -3
          What other proof is needed? Launch a vaccine after testing 38 (!) Subjects? And, moreover, with clear evidence of forgery, even here - well, changes in titles cannot be the same for everyone. It is PR, and it is fraudulent.
          1. magma Offline magma
            magma (Tatyana) 13 September 2020 07: 46
            +1
            I asked you about the evidence, not about your speculation.
            1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
              Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 13 September 2020 09: 38
              -3
              Are you pretending or is it really? Evidence of what, fraudulent PR? I repeat once again for the alternatively gifted - to test it on 38 young healthy volunteers (and there is an obvious forgery with the results) and put it into production, combining it with the third stage of testing, which is mandatory according to international protocols - this is just a fraudulent PR and moreover - a devil-may-care attitude to the lives and health of people. Finally?
              1. Cudgel Offline Cudgel
                Cudgel (Dubina) 13 September 2020 13: 13
                -6
                "Putriotics" do not need proof, since they said on Channel 1, then it really is so.
                Now, if there was neither the first nor the second stage, this is a scam, and so, this is a petty fraud.
                Therefore, I suggest calling the vaccine scam not a scam, but a petty scam.
                Yes, most interesting, but what did they take to the regions, to work hard for doctors and teachers? If someone gets sick or injured, or dies, there will be a scandal. There are two options: it will do well, no one thinks about the consequences, or they hope to hide it later if something goes wrong. The second option is that they took a pacifier, distilled water in syringes.
  6. Vladimir Sharp Offline Vladimir Sharp
    Vladimir Sharp (Vladimir) 18 September 2020 22: 56
    +1
    There are more than a million infected in Russia, and the mortality rate is many times higher than in Finland ...

    - the end of the quote. They are inhibited, everything is so, only our people live more than 26 times more ... but our mortality rate is 1.76% of all infected, and the Finns have 3.83%, which is more than twice as much ... so, whose cow would moo ... :)
  7. Pound Offline Pound
    Pound (Alexander) 28 September 2020 07: 02
    0
    Quote: Vladimir Sharp
    There are more than a million infected in Russia, and the mortality rate is many times higher than in Finland ...

    - the end of the quote. They are inhibited, everything is so, only our people live more than 26 times more ... but our mortality rate is 1.76% of all infected, and the Finns have 3.83%, which is more than twice as much ... so, whose cow would moo ... :)

    Stupid Chukhonts, they would shut up already ...
  8. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 2 October 2020 16: 00
    0
    Here the Finns are all scoffing .... but in the United States, in the Long Island area, there is a point where volunteers are given the Russian Sputnik 5 vaccine. I will say more, the vaccine is made by appointment, since there are a lot of people willing. Even Hollywood stars queued up! ..... so that the Finns would not have to bite their elbows later ...