The United States has shown that from now on they are the complete masters of the Ukrainian sky


A significant event took place the day before, after which relations between Ukraine and Russia can no longer be the same. Kiev allowed three US Air Force strategic bombers B-52H Stratofortress capable of carrying nuclear weapons into its airspace, which defiantly flew with transponders turned on near the borders of the unrecognized republics of Donbass and the Russian Crimea.


American military aircraft and UAVs are frequent and uninvited guests in the Black Sea, where they regularly conduct reconnaissance near the Crimean peninsula, where the Russian Black Sea Fleet base and other infrastructure of the Russian Defense Ministry are located. The RF Air Force is forced to constantly rise to intercept and escort them, but this time to do so it was impossiblesince the first time the Pentagon used the airspace of the Square.

Three strategic bombers took off from an air base in Great Britain, flew through several European countries and Ukraine, approaching Crimea at a distance of 53 kilometers. In doing so, they clearly wanted to be seen, since their pilots left the transponders on. At the same time, three NATO aircraft were in the sky from the Black Sea side: the Boeing P-8A Poseidon anti-submarine aircraft, the Boeing RC-135 RiverJoint electronic reconnaissance aircraft and the Bombardier Global Express Sentinel R.1 reconnaissance aircraft. This event can be considered a landmark.

On the one hand, American and British aircraft did not violate any international norms. They acted within the framework of their right to intelligence and military exercises. There was no reason to shoot them down from the air defense system or the RF Air Force, except for a symbolic air interception. On the other hand, the Pentagon has directly shown that it is now a complete master in the sky of Ukraine and can use it for flights of its strategic aviation. Kiev is no longer in a position to refuse Uncle Sam's "request" (read - order) to send bombers into its territory. Thus, the Ukrainians have demonstrated that Independent from the “abnormal little brother” has finally turned into a hostile state to us. All this raises a lot of unpleasant questions, among which the main ones are:


At first, was it really not clear from the very moment of the Maidan-2014 that everything is going towards that? That NATO military bases will gradually appear in Ukraine (one is already being built in Ochakov)? That military contingents of the North Atlantic Alliance can be deployed on its territory (the corresponding law was adopted long ago)? That American "strategists" will fly over Ukraine, and that the Pentagon can in the future place elements of its missile defense system here? But instead of this, they have been waiting for years for Nezalezhnaya to freeze, fall apart and crawl back to ask for forgiveness from the Kremlin. Now, apparently, we will wait for the United States to deploy its nuclear weapons there?

Secondly, with the appearance in the sky of Ukraine of American military aviation, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will have to rebuild the air defense of the south-west of the country, which will cost a pretty penny to the budget. Some military experts even suggest equipping the Crimean bridge with active protection systems.

If other decisions were made in 2014, our de facto border with NATO would be much further to the west. But what is not done is not done. Now you have to disentangle.
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  1. beeper Offline
    beeper 5 September 2020 18: 09
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    Too much Russian bourgeois in 2014 were afraid not of NATO, but of our passionate Russian Spring with its anti-oligarchic demands that could ignite the Russians! After all, even the remaining weapons from Crimea were hastily transported by the Russian authorities to the ATO boiler, so that by joint efforts, with their "Ukrainian" colleagues in "privatization", they could quickly crush the rebellious Russian South-East!
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    2. marciz Offline
      marciz (Stas) 13 September 2020 11: 05
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      Yes, late we realized that bastards are sitting in the Kremlin! (((
  2. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 5 September 2020 18: 34
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    that Independent from the "abnormal little brother" finally turned into a hostile state to us

    And the sooner some people understand this, the sooner Putin and Lavrov will leave. Or does someone else think that these two people could not do or change anything? And now it remains only to state the facts. As usual - under the Lavrovsky Foreign Ministry.
    1. Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 5 September 2020 19: 14
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      Why abnormal? Ordinary smaller brothers ... like cats, dogs, hamsters ... if you are bitten by a dog, you won't consider it something abnormal, will you?)))
    2. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 5 September 2020 22: 27
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      And the sooner some people understand this, the sooner Putin and Lavrov will leave. Or does someone else think that these two people could not do or change anything? And now it remains only to state the facts. As usual - under the Lavrovsky Foreign Ministry.

      You forgot to add your signature - they lack education. laughing
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  3. Dmitry S. Offline
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 5 September 2020 18: 44
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    And the American military danced a dance of fertility, which surprised Russian intelligence a lot ...
  4. GRF Offline
    GRF 5 September 2020 18: 46
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    Was it really not clear from the very moment of Maidan-2014 that everything was going towards that?

    This is understandable since the collapse of the USSR ...

    Now you have to disentangle.

    It is a pity that it was not specified - to whom ...
  5. olpin51 Offline
    olpin51 (Oleg Pinegin) 5 September 2020 19: 22
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    We need to negotiate with Cuba. What nonsense - to oversleep what happened.
  6. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
    Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 5 September 2020 20: 48
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    If Crimea had not been squeezed out in time, they would have been based in Simferopol.
    So it's time to completely curtail relations - no electricity flows, no gas transit, stop crossing the border by freight transport.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 5 September 2020 22: 37
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      There are enough people who want to settle in Crimea, except for the Americans. Comrade Xi was going to build a port in Yevpatoria, and the Chinese peasants were already looking closely at the Crimean fields. Why horses and freak out. yes Everyone wanted to sell this, but here it turned out. winked Now the toad is choking. laughing
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 6 September 2020 08: 34
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        Quote: 123
        Comrade Xi was going to build a port in Evpatoria

        Well, our comrade Abramovich bought a tank factory and armor production in the USA. However, America's defenses were not affected. request
        And the gardens in Lipetsk Lebedyan work on Coca-Cola. The greenhouses in Yekaterinburg are owned by a Chinese and there are shift workers from China. Summer. And like winter, the Chinese have to hire locals. The Chinese do not take root on Russian soil. Even in greenhouses ... laughing
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 6 September 2020 12: 36
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          Well, our comrade Abramovich bought a tank factory and armor production in the USA. However, America's defenses were not affected.

          So you didn't get hurt? There is practically no production of tanks in the USA. If I am not mistaken, one plant is engaged in repair and modernization.

          And the gardens in Lipetsk Lebedyan work on Coca-Cola. Greenhouses in Yekaterinburg are owned by a Chinese and there are shift workers from China. Summer. And like winter, the Chinese have to hire locals. The Chinese do not take root on Russian soil. Even in greenhouses ...

          In Crimea, it is warmer than in the Urals, they could take root, even without greenhouses.

          In fact, a little talk about something else ..... Comrade Xi and Abramovich should not be put in the same row, he has dozens of them in every regional center.
          Nobody really cares what the conditional Abramovich bought. But Chinese attempts to gain a foothold in various regions are provoking fierce opposition. In addition to Ukraine, there is an example of Venezuela with Iran. I believe that the Maidan arose partly because of the desire to oust the Chinese.
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
            Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 6 September 2020 15: 50
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            No, they are people of the same scale. Abramovich is trying to provide for numerous children, and buys low-profit, but eternal values. Comrade Xi needs the same - having a lot of money, he invests it in the values ​​of long-term preservation - ports, factories, land. There is land, there is a Chinese manager, but he does not have citizenship, and he cannot naturalize a million of his relatives in Russia (Venezuela, Congo). They can provide them with a percentage of the turnover, but they cannot be resettled.
            Here, in Siberia and the Urals, power plants, distribution and heating networks, were taken over by the Finnish energy company Fortum. I bought vouchers, brought them, a whole truck, under the threshold of Chubais, and he wrote off the energy of many cities to her. There is not a single Finnish person at the power plants, Uncle Vasya is tapping on the batteries - and the Finns are getting high in Finland.
            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 6 September 2020 16: 34
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              No, they are people of the same scale. Abramovich is trying to provide for numerous children, and buys low-profit, but eternal values. Comrade Xi needs the same - having a lot of money, he invests it in the values ​​of long-term preservation - ports, factories, land. There is land, there is a Chinese manager, but he does not have citizenship, and he cannot naturalize a million of his relatives in Russia (Venezuela, Congo). They can provide them with a percentage of the turnover, but they cannot be resettled.

              In my opinion, you are mistaken. Nobody really cares about Abramovich. China is another matter entirely. It's not just about investing money. Any Abramovich or his Chinese counterpart, if necessary, is bent into a ram's horn, which, by the way, is what happens with Huawei and Tik-Tok. It is wrong to compare it with China as a state.

              Here, in Siberia and the Urals, power plants, distribution and heating networks, were taken over by the Finnish energy company Fortum. I bought vouchers, brought them, a whole truck, under the threshold of Chubais, and he wrote off the energy of many cities to her. There is not a single Finnish person at the power plants, Uncle Vasya is tapping on the batteries - and the Finns are getting high in Finland.

              Vouchers for Chubais? In 2008? We have a station in Nyagan, I can’t say worse and better than Surgut or Nizhnevartovsk, because I’m not a specialist, and I was on the territory of only one, since access there is still limited. I don’t see any particular difference, I haven’t met the Finns oppressing Russian hard workers either. In general, I can't say anything bad about them. Here's what Wikipedia writes about them:

              From 2010 to 2016, Fortum implemented an extensive investment program in Russia. The company has built 11 modern and highly efficient power units with a total capacity of 2,4 GW, 8 of which under the CSA program. For 10 years of operation, the capacity of the company's power facilities has almost doubled.

              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BC

              And the same Wikipedia claims that they invested 4 billion European tugriks in Russia. They lie, go? In general, if you do the same as the Finns, I will not be very indignant, even if you have Mongolian citizenship. hi And enjoy your health even in a yurt on the bank of Kerulen. hi
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
                Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 6 September 2020 19: 04
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                The main assets - TPP - were acquired by Fortum by voucher privatization. Then he began to slowly buy networks, electrical and heat. In Nyagan - a completely new power plant, I will not argue, invested.
                1. 123 Offline
                  123 (123) 6 September 2020 20: 03
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                  The main assets - TPP - were acquired by Fortum by voucher privatization. Then he began to slowly buy networks, electrical and heat. In Nyagan - a completely new power plant, I will not argue, invested.

                  I will not argue, because I have no data. I would be grateful if you could share a source of information on their participation in voucher privatization. hi
                  1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
                    Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 6 September 2020 21: 51
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                    Funny company. While looking through the search, I suddenly saw that Fortum is a Russian company with an office in Moscow. General Director A. Shuvaev.
                    And right next to it is an article about a meeting with Fortum CEO Peter Ludmark.
                    In Wiki 5 years ago it was a little different. It stated that the company acquired several power plants in 94-95. She worked, apparently, within the framework of the EU RAO. Spun off into a separate company during RW liquidation. Lipetsk CHPP was also privatized by vouchers, but changed its name only in 2008.
                    1. 123 Offline
                      123 (123) 6 September 2020 22: 33
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                      I also looked at them a little ... We stopped dealing with power lines, we focused on generation ... In Sweden, the business was turned off (not otherwise, Gretta imposed anathema belay ) In general, they work less and less in "Europe" and more here. In general, ... maybe let the Finns work for now? Let's not kick them out? Are they not that bad? They don't drink Baikal, they don't dig oil ...
                      hi
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          Bitter (Gleb) 6 September 2020 17: 53
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          ... comrade Abramovich bought a tank factory and armor production in the USA.

          Haha, of course comrade with a capital letter, another hero of the captrude of the Russian oligarchy, a vintage patriot of the peoples of the North. Had arrived comrade in America with a bag of Russian dollars and easily invested. Factory profits, if any, drip comrade naturally not to Russian accounts. I wonder what else he brought them in that bag with dollars from Russia, if they comrade such a plant was allowed to buy.

          The Chinese do not take root on Russian soil. Even in greenhouses ...

          Take a trip to the Khabarovsk Territory, see how they do not take root. In theory, they don't need it. Buy it cheaper, put your own order a little, appoint an executive director and that's it. If, of course, fellow countrymen from the village want to work, you can send a couple of hundred thousand to help. The Chinese work unobtrusively but purposefully. They certainly cannot be underestimated. However, like the American authorities overseeing strategically important industries and factories.
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
            Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 6 September 2020 19: 14
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            Quote: Bitter
            vintage patriot of the peoples of the north

            Chukchi for Abramovich who wants to be stuffed in the face. Under him, instead of vodka, they began to give them weightless plastic kayaks and fiberglass poles for chums instead of vodka. Oleshka is now worth 85 thousand. Began to sell motonarts and Yamaha, that outboard motors. Delivery of gasoline to any point in Chukotka has been organized. So, in comparison with the Chukchi in the chum, the owner of the Magnet is out.
            Abramovich delivered the equipment, drilled a well right on the outskirts of Anadyr and gave people gas. At my own expense, by the way. Now gas is being pulled from Abramovich's estate to Kamchatka.
            He knows how to turn into money any garbage around him.
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              Bitter (Gleb) 7 September 2020 10: 38
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              provide weightless plastic kayaks and fiberglass poles for chums.

              In general, the same benefactor for the Chukchi, as the Americans are for the Indians. laughing Only a little more humane at first glance.

              gave people gas. At my own expense, by the way.

              Oh, everything! At your own expense? Haha three times. I don't even want to discuss it.
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    gorenina91 (Irina) 6 September 2020 04: 51
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    The United States has shown that from now on they are the complete masters of the Ukrainian sky

    - Ha ... - so now it is not necessary for the Americans to accept Ukraine into NATO (only extra expenses) ... - they already have everything they want ... - Well, they are dexterous and agile ... - right under Russia's nose do whatever they want ... - We urgently need to express "deep concern" about this ... - Otherwise they will become completely insolent ...
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    igor.igorev (Igor) 6 September 2020 07: 52
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    I didn't understand, but what measures should Russia have taken? Nuke Ukraine in 2014 and wipe it off the face of the earth? Well, American planes fly and let them fly. We also fly near Alaska. What happened? The Americans are also flying in the skies of the Baltics.
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  9. Put_NIK Offline
    Put_NIK (Andrey) 6 September 2020 08: 02
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    Well, that's to be expected. And we also have to expect a water base with the deployment of American submarines and no one will forbid them to be there. They did not just seize Ukraine. They had to stick to our fence, which they did.
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 6 September 2020 08: 40
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      placing American submarines on it and no one will forbid them to be there.

      So far it depends not on Ukraine, but on Turkey. As long as Turkey abides by the Montreux Convention, only Romanian, Bulgarian and Turkish bases are possible in Ukraine. And this is still a peremoga. fellow
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      Bitter (Gleb) 6 September 2020 18: 05
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      ... by placing American submarines on it ...

      Why raise the sea level? A couple of minesweepers and some other floating pans can be hired in the same Ukraine to install or replace some buoys with ears. And so there are enough "torpedoes" both Romanian and Turkish.
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    Shadow041 6 September 2020 11: 07
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    In fact, it was the Ukrainians who showed that they are not the masters in Ukraine and that they are not the state-forming people. They always lick someone's boots, then Austria, then Hungary, then Poland, then Lithuania, then Sweden, then Turkey, then Russia, then Germany, now the United States. Always Dillies need a master !!!
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    nehoroshih48 (alex) 6 September 2020 11: 26
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    As long as Crimea is ours - let them at least get rid of it - we'll get it everywhere and, if necessary, punish it. They understand this, and the potheads are waiting for a kick in the ass, and it will be obligatory!
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    steelmaker 6 September 2020 19: 24
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    You forgot to add your signature - they lack education.

    Even if you noticed it, then there is hope that it will reach others.
  13. Tomahawk batteries will be installed in Konotop soon!
  14. marciz Offline
    marciz (Stas) 13 September 2020 11: 10
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    Yes, let them fly, what do you want, Crows !? You ate your cheese !!! Once you flew, but now you rotted from the inside yourself !!!! Ear - for !!!!