A real ally: Lukashenka dealt a serious blow to the West by defending Russia

4 September 2020 77

What cannot but cause sincere admiration in the leader of Belarus is his complete rejection of any half measures, semitones and other similar things. If the “dad” has made any decision for himself, then hold on to it ... Until recently, Alexander Grigorievich, who did almost everything possible to curtail relations with Russia, fully felt the consequences of such a short-sighted policy and clearly drew deep and comprehensive conclusions.

Today he is not only standing shoulder to shoulder with our country in its extremely aggravated confrontation with the West, but, one might say, is eager to fight in the forefront of this battle. And you know what? Very good at it!

Lukashenko vs. Merkel

As you know, remembering the old runs the risk of serious vision problems. But on the other hand, you can't throw a word out of a song ... And these words - ill-considered, unfounded, and besides, unfair and insulting to Russia from the lips of Lukashenka, have lately sounded, alas, more than enough. Now one gets the impression that the Belarusian president, perfectly realizing how shortsighted he acted, sacrificing a truly century-old brotherhood to the current political situation, is seeking to prove his adherence to the union with our country in the most radical ways. No sooner had the absurd accusation against Russia of yet another "poisoning" sounded from Berlin, immediately picked up by the entire Western flock and already used as a pretext for new attacks on our country, when the "daddy" made a retaliatory move. And what a spectacular one! It turns out that not only Western politicians are able to make shocking and sensational statements that instantly "turn upside down" international relations.

During a meeting in Minsk with Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin, Alexander Grigorievich broadcast something much more stunning than the Russophobic tales about Novichko repeated for the hundred and first time. According to the Belarusian leader, he has at his disposal records of negotiations between some high-ranking subscribers from Germany and Poland, irrefutably proving that the whole story with "Navalny's poisoning" is not just a fake and a "linden" of pure water, but a provocation of Western special services aimed at destabilizing situation in Russia. "To slip a dirty trick is their style, this is their face!" - Bravo, Alexander Grigorievich. Who knows, if not you ...

Where does the information of such a high level of confidentiality come from? Lukashenka, completely without daring or reflecting, said that the information was received from the "electronic intelligence of the Belarusian army", which "is waging a confrontation with NATO." Why are they concentrating on the western borders? According to the Belarusian leader, at present the brave "fighters of the invisible front" are already preparing the entire "package" of materials ("we will transmit the voice, and the text - all that is needed!"), Which will soon fall on the tables of the director of the FSB of Russia Alexander Bortnikov and the head of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service Sergei Naryshkin. For the general public, Alexander Grigorievich has so far released two quotes from the intercepted conversation: it openly said that Russia needs to be "influenced" during the local elections there in the regions, and that the special operation with Navalny was started in order to "repulse Putin wants to get involved in Belarusian affairs ”.

In conclusion, Lukashenka did not fail to mention that, judging by what is happening, the West does not intend to give "a quiet life" to either Moscow or Minsk, but he will not allow himself to be "tilted". All the more so - to some Germans with Poles. What follows from this situation? First of all, if the recordings of the interception are made public (and personally I have no doubts about their existence or their authenticity), an international scandal threatens the West of an unprecedented scale. An unprecedented, one might say enchanting scandal. In addition, with his demarche Lukashenka finally “burned bridges”, demonstratively giving up even the most illusory chances of reconciliation with the West and confirming his readiness to be with Russia to the end.

Together we are strong!

In Germany, of course, everything that has been said is denied with ardor, indignation and pathos by a lady with low social responsibility, proving her own girlish innocence. The German government made an extremely offended mine and said that his statements "are naturally false." And what do you want to say to these foolish poor fellows? There are so many lies, accusations, covering up their own, as Aleksandr Grigorievich correctly said, “dirty tricks” with the notorious “high-likes”, and it’s so ridiculous to get caught! If it turns out that the dispassionate special equipment really recorded Frau Merkel's voice (and this is the option today called as the most probable), the government crisis and the far from honorable resignation of the old woman may not be enough. Moreover, such a turn of events automatically casts doubt on all the fabrications of the West - from the crash of the Malaysian Boeing to the story of the Skripals. Who has lied once, who will believe you ?! You can sit down in a very deep puddle ...

However, the matter is not only in one particular case. In front of the astonished, extremely annoyed and discouraged West, Moscow and Minsk began at an accelerated pace to carry out that very “deep integration”, the failure of which, in fact, was one of the main goals of the “non-Maidan” inspired in Minsk. By extremely evil (for cruelly miscalculated Russophobes) irony, it was these events that enlightened the Belarusian leader about where his friends are and where are enemies. Russia and Belarus are uniting precisely to confront the West, doing it more than successfully.

Lithuania stubbornly interferes in the affairs of Minsk, brazenly and shamelessly trying not only to give advice, but also to openly support the riots there. Alexander Grigorievich was offended and advised Vilnius to "deal with its own problems", and not to meddle in the internal issues of neighbors who "treated you in an amicable way and fed and fed you to some extent using the ports." Now they won't feed! As it became known, work is currently under way to redirect the flows of Belarusian oil products, which were traditionally exported just through Lithuanian ports to the “sea gates” of Russia. Don't know how to behave like a neighbor? Do you declare the officials of Belarus persona non grata and even threaten that “this is just the beginning”? So here's an adequate answer to you - the fuel produced at Belarusian refineries will henceforth be exported not through Klaipeda, but through St. Petersburg and Ust-Luga. Vigorous shish you instead of profits, gentlemen, bad!

These are not empty words - proceeding from the fact that this decision was voiced by the domestic energy minister Alexander Novak, who visited Minsk together with Mikhail Mishustin. And this, by the way, means that we are no longer talking about any "alternative supplies" of oil to Belarus. Only Russian! With Vilnius, of course, there will be many more headaches - it seems that Washington has decided to use this puppet of its own for the most dangerous provocations no less intensively than Kiev. Literally the other day, the deployment of a fairly serious contingent of the US Army will begin in Lithuania - up to a thousand soldiers and officers and at least 40 armored vehicles, including heavy Abrams tanks. Moreover, the local Defense Minister Raimundas Karoblis said that he expected the arrival of the same number of servicemen from France, Italy, Germany, Poland and other NATO countries, allegedly "completely unrelated to the events in Belarus", as well as participation in military maneuvers. Alliance aviation.

Well - let them frolic ... The answer to these games will be the exercises "Slavic Brotherhood-2020", which, by a coincidence, will be held on the territory of Belarus with the participation of Russian and Serbian military. They are also absolutely unrelated to anything. Well, except perhaps the firm intention of Moscow and Minsk to rid the NATO warriors of the burning desire to "flex their muscles" on our common borders. Yes, yes - general. No matter how the legal and political process of the formation of the Union State develops further, recent events have shown that there is no alternative to it - neither for Belarus, nor for Russia. In addition to the small and too insolent Lithuania lately, which allows itself to blather from under the reliable, as it seems to it, cover of the armor of American "Abrams", there is also Poland, whose Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki the day before called Russia "a country with a hostile regime, all sorts of attempts at dialogue with which are useless ", and called for" to make the most decisive conclusions "regarding our country. I wonder which ones? NATO is already convening a special meeting on the "poisoning of the century", the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) has been super-operatively involved in the case, and the voices of those in the European Union are calling for "this time not to be limited to sanctions." Again, we are burning with curiosity - what else can we talk about? Judging by the hasty transfer of American soldiers to the borders of Belarus, options, as they say, are possible ...

Incidentally, Minsk also began to rapidly correct its relations with Ukraine in the manner in which it had to be done a long time ago. The Belarusian leader openly called it one of the sources of destabilization in the country - along with Poland and Lithuania, thereby fully agreeing with the statement of the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry Sergei Lavrov, who directly pointed to "hundreds of militants trained on Ukrainian territory" for organizing unrest in Belarus. In Kiev, in turn, they swagger, threatening neighbors with "tough steps in case of unfriendly actions." It is not clear what these steps might be, but the fact that the Ukrainian army will most likely remain without Belarusian fuel in the near future is good news. Recently, Moscow has desperately lacked allies on whom it could rely in a critical situation, capable of at least "covering its back" during an enemy attack, let alone taking the first step in repelling it. Well, an ally like Lukashenka with his current fighting spirit is worth a lot.

Alexander the Wild

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Oyo Sarkazmi

-3

4 September 2020 09: 52

... an international scandal threatens the West of unprecedented proportions.

Yes, you, my friend, are an optimist!
Under American law, it is prohibited to publish facts that discredit the American government. And since all the media in the world have American shareholders and owners, the negotiations will not be announced anywhere except Belarus. They will be removed from YouTube, a fine will be imposed on OK - and silence!
The Americans still have not recognized the shooting of the Agence France Presse and Ambulance correspondents (13 people died, one child) in the center of Baghdad (2006), the video was posted on the Internet - the American officials have already had the third administration: Cho? We don't know anything !!!
1. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +5
  
  4 September 2020 11: 44
  
  And since all the media in the world have American shareholders and owners, the negotiations will not be announced anywhere except Belarus.
  
  Where does this confidence come from?
  Yes, the German opposition media will be the first to publish.
  Democracy J.
  1. igor.igorev
    
    +4
    
    4 September 2020 13: 18
    
    You are really very naive. No one in the West will publish something defaming their governments. These are our liberals yelling to the whole world that they are stealing from us. Yes, they steal everywhere, they just keep silent about it.
    1. Dear sofa expert.
      
      +5
      
      4 September 2020 14: 12
      
      You are really very naive.
      
      You are not inferior to me in this.)
      
      In the West, as elsewhere, any government has an opposition that does not miss the opportunity to take advantage of the blunders of its political opponents.
      
      And in the so-called democratic countries, this method of internal political struggle is also legalized.
      
      See how in America, "Democrats" flatten Trump.
      
      Germany is no exception. Merkel has a lot of "opponents". And even in their own political camp.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        
        +1
        
        4 September 2020 15: 25
        
        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        See how in America, "Democrats" flatten Trump.
        
        They kill Trump because he is a stranger. Deutsche American. And since Kennedy's death, from Johnson to Obama, Irish-Americans have become presidents. 5 family clans. They control both parties and the press. And the presidency in the United States is a quiet and calm family affair. Cousins and second cousins, uncles, nephews ... It’s just Saudi Arabia, not democracy.
        As for the anti-spiegel, this is an Internet resource, not television, which only those who are deeply in the subject look at. We have a dime a dozen of them, even if this Reporter.
        When Deutsche Welle starts talking about torture in Abu Ghraib and Antavilay, every 15 minutes, with the demonstration of photos, as now about "Navalny", then I will believe in freedom of speech. And so, the owner of the media - The master... They will write as he orders.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        0
        
        4 September 2020 16: 12
        
        As for the anti-spiegel, it is an Internet resource, not television.
        
        Yes, just like the article we are currently discussing.
        And about television, so whoever needs it will watch there too ... the debates in the Bundestag. For example, on the "Phönix" program. There are often live broadcasts of meetings.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        0
        
        4 September 2020 16: 20
        
        Here's another resource ... newspaper:
        
        https://www.google.de/amp/s/m.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/nawalny-kreml-behauptet-er-soll-in-deutschland-vergiftet-worden-sein-72715708,view=amp.bildMobile.html
        
        or this one ..
        
        https://m.tagesspiegel.de/politik/weissrussland-lukaschenko-wirft-deutschland-umsturzversuch-vor/3714322.html
        
        Send more, or google yourself?
        
        Oyo Sarkazmi
        
        0
        
        5 September 2020 11: 36
        
        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        Here's another resource ... newspaper:
        
        The banner does not start up.
        
        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        or this one ..
        
        Text - and we in Belarus have nothing to do with it, we only give money for democracy.
        Quite kosher.
        Like election meddling: a Facebook post is a global provocation, and the $ 4 billion spent by the Americans in the 18th year Russian presidential election is a gesture of goodwill.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        5 September 2020 11: 40
        
        Banner does not start
        
        Check your browser settings.
        
        The second molt is old, I just threw it off as an example.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        5 September 2020 09: 35
        
        They kill Trump because he is a stranger. Deutsche American. And since Kennedy's death, from Johnson to Obama, Irish-Americans have become presidents. 5 family clans.
        
        But what about Franklin Roosevelt, he is a descendant of the Dutch Van Rosenvelts?)
        And by the way, the only American president who has been elected more than twice!
        
        Oyo Sarkazmi
        
        0
        
        5 September 2020 11: 30
        
        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        But what about Franklin Roosevelt, he is a descendant of the Dutch Van Rosenvelts?
        
        After Kennedy, the last Old English president. But in ancient times there were only relatives in presidents. Roosevelt the Second is the six-nephew of Roosevelt the First. But here is the wife of Roosevelt the Second, who bore the surname Delano - NATIVE niece of Roosevelt the First.
        But after Johnson, when the Irish shot down the English competitors, only the Irish were. By the way, the ancestors of Reagan and Bush arrived in the United States on the same ship and from the same village.
      2. igor.igorev
        
        -3
        
        6 September 2020 08: 00
        
        Compared to our liberal media, the West is just an irresponsible child. Don't make me laugh with publications in the Western media.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        6 September 2020 12: 00
        
        Compared to our liberal media, the West is just an irresponsible child. Don't make me laugh with publications in the Western media.
        
        What Western media do you watch / read? Please give a specific example, then it will be seen whether you have sufficient grounds to judge the level of "childishness".
        
        igor.igorev
        
        -1
        
        6 September 2020 13: 51
        
        You read our media. Starting with regional newspapers and up. Everywhere they write only about thieves. And then read the US or EU media. Will you see that there? Or will you tell me that there are no thieves there?
    2. Boris Arbel (Latuha)
      
      0
      
      4 September 2020 21: 52
      
      Right. They steal everywhere, but not like yours. You have thieves in the Duma and in the government. They don't steal, they just take it for themselves. Another nuance: in the world of thieves, even if they are leading politicians, they judge, but you don't.
      1. Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        5 September 2020 12: 50
        
        Right. They steal everywhere, but not like yours. You have thieves in the Duma and in the government. They don't steal, they just take it for themselves. Another nuance: in the world of thieves, even if they are leading politicians, they judge, but you don't.
        
        You might think your thieves are in jail.)) When will Netanyahu be jailed?
        ... bribery, fraud and breach of trust ... or what else can you do while in power?)
2. Dear sofa expert.
  
  0
  
  4 September 2020 12: 01
  
  Here, for you, please - it is already oozing from all the cracks:
  
  https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.anti-spiegel.ru/2020/lukaschenko-laut-vom-geheimdienst-abgehoertem-gespraech-ist-navalnys-vergiftung-eine-faelschung/
  1. Oyo Sarkazmi
    
    -1
    
    4 September 2020 15: 29
    
    Only this is not even a gap, but so is a hair (a crack that does not disrupt the functioning of a mechanism or container).
    1. Dear sofa expert.
      
      +1
      
      4 September 2020 16: 08
      
      Only this is not even a gap, but so is a hair (a crack that does not disrupt the functioning of a mechanism or container).
      
      Well, it always starts with something.) So far. The next move is for Lukashenka. As one famous character said:
      
      .. money in the morning, chairs in the evening ..
      
      By the way, by the link - what exactly disappointed you there? )
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        
        -5
        
        4 September 2020 16: 13
        
        The head of state of Belarus quoted several phrases from this conversation: “a group of specialists, as I understand it, prepared the facts for the Merkel administration - and, possibly, the statement she made. They did it, a quote: "to prevent Putin from poking his nose into the affairs of Belarus."
        
        Just empty-handed (not Lukashenka, but the author on the site).
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        0
        
        4 September 2020 16: 15
        
        Just empty-handed (not Lukashenka, but the author on the site).
        
        And what is more important to you: to discuss facts, or personal qualities of publicists?
        
        The fact is that if in fact, then the topic of the author of this article, directly or indirectly, is discussed by both Russian and German media. What is idle talk?
        
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        Oyo Sarkazmi
        
        -4
        
        4 September 2020 16: 31
        
        Until it is published in the official (pro-American) press, nothing will happen. And torture was forgiven, and the murder of civilians, even the kidnapping of their own citizens turn a blind eye. Bantustans, in a word.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        4 September 2020 16: 41
        
        Until it is published in the official (pro-American) press, nothing will happen. And torture was forgiven, and the murder of civilians, even the kidnapping of their own citizens turn a blind eye. Bantustans, in a word.
        
        What exactly should be published in the "official (pro-American) press" ??
        Threats to Lukashenka? So they left already. All the media are talking about this, writing.
        The facts that Lukashenka wants to provide? Well, let him first provide them, and if, then be sure - they (although they will deny), but they will be dragged into the world without fail.
        How else? There are more than enough people who want to take the place of today's rulers, both in Germany and elsewhere!
        Politics is like a can of spiders.)
        There are only 3 policy goals:
        
        - Get the power
        - Hold on to power
        - To exercise power.
        
        Or are you talking about something "sublime"?)
        
        The comment was deleted.
        
        The comment was deleted.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        4 September 2020 17: 04
        
        For making fun of zombie authors. Whether they are pro-Russian or anti-Russian.
        
        What is it for? Taunts. Mocking / criticizing is always easier than doing something yourself.
        This is the problem with liberalism - to deny everything, without offering anything in return. A sort of "openers of abscesses".
        We, like, showed you, and then you yourself.)
        The lot of liberals is to irritate society. No more, no less.
        Therefore, they should not be allowed into power either.
        Why do you think the West is trying to slip some "guaido / bulk" regimes into all the regimes they dislike?
        Just to create (controlled) chaos, and then control this chaos itself.
        
        I don't know what you did there on „DW“ (Complete bullshit!)
        
        Are you talking about zombies? So, you, apparently, have no idea how the Western public is being zombified.
        I have been participating in the SPON forums (Spiegel Online) for many, many years, and on some Swiss resources. There, "zomboyaschiki" are not like the Russian ones. I left there myself.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -2
        
        4 September 2020 23: 30
        
        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        This is the problem with liberalism - to deny everything, without offering anything in return. A sort of "openers of abscesses".
        We, like, showed you, and then you yourself.)
        
        You live in a country in which the constitution is written according to liberal canons, in which electoral democracy (also a liberal idea) is carefully imitated, you are probably a citizen, not a subject, which is also a liberal achievement.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        5 September 2020 02: 17
        
        You live in a country in which the constitution is written according to liberal canons, in which electoral democracy (also a liberal idea) is carefully imitated, you are probably a citizen, not a subject, which is also a liberal achievement.
        
        Oleg, you do not give the impression of a stupid person, so do not try to give my words any other meaning.
        
        First, I was talking about liberal politics, and not about the principles of liberalism itself. These principles, at first glance, seem to be not at all vicious.
        
        Yes. In fact, the provision of justice, any guarantees or equal rights, in itself, as an idea, does not carry anything negative.
        
        The only question is (and this is the most important thing, and this is kept silent!) - at what cost should all this be achieved?
        
        It is customary to describe the main part of the principles of liberalism with a quote: "The freedom of one person ends where the freedom of another begins."
        
        And that's it!
        
        Think about this, and you will understand this, bordering on cynicism, utopianism of liberalism itself.
Bulanov

+4

4 September 2020 10: 05

We thought that Frau Merkel was a respectable German woman, but she turned out to be a poisoner? Fu, how bad, ugly! Navalny was transferred to her with pure blood, and in Germany, poison appeared in her blood, which was not there during the transfer of the body! And I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Frau Merkel used to secretly visit ... the Stasi! Apparently, she forgot that the KGB of the USSR had all the moves recorded, and the archives are still kept in Moscow.
1. Natan bruk
  
  -1
  
  4 September 2020 17: 47
  
  Exactly, exactly. On the flight to Moscow, he fell into a coma from a binge, and the Germans cunningly took advantage of this! And Merkel spoke to Berlin on a regular cell phone. Although no, Lukashenka has such specialists that they can hack any encrypted channel, there are no more such in the world! Yes, grandfather Luka is completely crazy to think of this. But in Russia there are a lot of those who even believe in such a blizzard ...
  1. Dear sofa expert.
    
    0
    
    4 September 2020 18: 51
    
    And Merkel spoke to Berlin on a regular cell phone. Although no, Lukashenka has such specialists that any encrypted channel can be hacked
    
    Did you inhale anesthesia, orderly?))
    But what do you think, Navalny's relatives, what phone did Merkel call, asking for help?
    On a personal one - a cell phone? Or encrypted - special for such cases?)
    Moreover, they got through so quickly that the next day the "patient" was given a plane, a bed in the clinic, and even (!) A visa was prepared?))
    1. Natan bruk
      
      -2
      
      5 September 2020 05: 59
      
      Oh, what is it that bombed you so, good gentleman? And on "you" immediately, and in orderlies I was promoted. Drink some water, cool down. And on the topic - it is necessary to completely out of the mind to survive in order to organize such nonsense with "interception". The whole world will now make fun of him.
      1. Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        5 September 2020 08: 37
        
        And on "you" immediately
        
        I am already with many "old acquaintances" here "on you", but if "We" are so important, then I will yield to "you".
        
        I was promoted to orderlies
        
        In "orderlies" a person "produces" himself. Your "works" are written at the level of the spinal cord, "colleague". And this, unfortunately, is very striking. The doctor must have a higher level of intelligence.
        
        And on the topic - it is necessary to completely out of the mind to survive in order to organize such stupidity with "interception".
        
        The topic of the article highlights the fact of the statement by the Belarusian president. The fact is confirmed, as Lukashenka made such a statement.
        Whether this statement turns out to be reasonable or not, will show in the near future.
        If Lukashenka was lying (sorry for the tautology)), then this is a big minus for him personally, but if he really has confirmation of these "conversations", then the West will not make fun of it, to put it mildly.
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -3
        
        5 September 2020 10: 03
        
        To be honest, your statements about the "spinal cord" and "intelligence level" are funny to me. In my opinion, you simply have nothing to answer in essence, so you are trying to build yourself up as an "intellectual". However, if you are so less offended because you cannot find a decent answer in essence, you can consider me a nurse, I will not lose it :))) As for Lukashenka, I don’t know how naive one should be, to seriously believe in this nonsense in the form of a conversation between a certain Mike and a certain Nick. And at first it was generally said about intercepting Merkel's conversation. Now "Mike" and "Nick" :))) Yes, here he is, the chairman of the collective farm - he seems to be cunning, but he does not have the mind to figure out that he is making himself ridiculous with this miserable fake.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        0
        
        5 September 2020 10: 37
        
        Let's omit the top honor of your next tantrum. Not about your spinal cord, of course.
        
        Now closer to the point:
        
        And at first it was generally said about intercepting Merkel's conversation. Now it is Mike and Nick.
        
        You drew this thoughtful conclusion by reading the heading to the paragraph:
        "Lukashenko against Merkel"?)
        
        Actually, if you read more than just the headings, you could see the text itself:
        
        According to the Belarusian leader, he has records of negotiations between some high-ranking subscribers from Germany and Poland.
        
        So where is it said about intercepting Merkel's conversation? Or is it hallucinations after anesthesia?)
        
        Although it is possible that there are other records, and when, and to what extent they will be made public, it is not for us to decide. Time will tell.
        
        Whether it is fake or not, modern technical capabilities make it possible to determine with a 100% degree of probability.
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -3
        
        5 September 2020 10: 55
        
        In my opinion, you still have another hysteria. Well, judging by the next repetition of "yumor" about "orderly" and "anesthesia". Well, what to do, everyone has their own level of humor. To understand and forgive :))) And it was Merkel who announced the interception of the conversation from the very beginning. Then they smoothly moved on to some "high-ranking subscribers", then to some unknown Mike and Nick. I’ll tell you more “an intellectual” - Russian officials will generally keep silent on this topic, since they will hardly want to embarrass themselves with this awkward fake together with Lukashenka, and openly say that Lukashenka has blamed another stupidity, they, of course, cannot either. As a last resort, they will say that they are studying the materials and will delay until this story is forgotten.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        5 September 2020 11: 04
        
        And it was Merkel who announced the interception of the conversation from the very beginning.
        
        Please show these lines in the text of the article.
        
        I'll tell you more, "intellectual" - Russian officials will generally keep silent on this topic
        
        Well, the official press did not keep silent anymore. Read more and you will notice it.
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -3
        
        5 September 2020 11: 23
        
        There are no such lines in the text of THIS article, of course. I have already written above - Lukashenka's officialdom first announced the conversation with Merkel, then they went to some "high-ranking officials", then to some Mike and Nick. And about “they didn’t keep silent” - well, yes, it is somehow necessary to respond to such a loud statement, so they reacted with what they say they received and will study. I bet there will be a long silence further until the whole story is forgotten.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        0
        
        5 September 2020 11: 34
        
        There are no such lines in the text of THIS article
        
        But you are here, on the forum, of this particular article, and you are discussing this article?
        
        Merkel's conversation was first announced
        
        Did you read that between the lines?
        
        I bet there will be a long silence further until the whole story is forgotten.
        
        Wouldn't it be easier to just wait for the outcome?
        
        Besides, the game started in earnest. And this telephone conversation, only the first pawn moved.
        
        Or do you think that two Russian FSB aircraft, stuffed to the limit with some kind of equipment and planted in Minsk on August 15, flew there out of boredom? (if you followed the events, of course).
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -3
        
        5 September 2020 11: 51
        
        1) They are discussing THIS article, and I am talking about what preceded it and how from the “Merkel conversation” they smoothly passed to the unknown “Mike” and “Nick”.
        2) Not easier. We must respond to such a loud statement, otherwise the silence after such a statement will look very ambiguous. And what kind of game is there, it's just another stupidity of Lukashenka. He threw in a ridiculous fake, and the Kremlin is now somehow getting out of it .. So they reacted. Airplanes are generally funny.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        5 September 2020 12: 06
        
        from "Merkel's conversation" smoothly passed to the unknown "Mike" and "Nick".
        
        Okay, then show me this article, then I might understand the train of your thoughts.
        
        It is obligatory to respond to such a loud statement
        
        Well, that's what I say. Wait.
        The reaction has already begun. Read the press, everything will happen as needed. In politics, as in chess: two moves in a row are not made. You need to give your opponent the opportunity to make his own mistake.)
        Now, by the way, it's the West's turn.
        The next move of Belarus (Russia) will depend on their reaction.
        
        The Kremlin is now somehow getting out
        
        Who told you that the Kremlin needs to get out?)
        
        The Kremlin will definitely enter this game. At the right moment.
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -3
        
        5 September 2020 12: 15
        
        Okay, I'll show you. The reaction has already begun. And that was the end of it. Would you like to bet that Russian officials will confine themselves to the message that they are studying the materials, and then nothing will happen? And what could be the “move for the West? They will write that the mustache is completely bad and completely not inventive, this is the maximum. Well, do not take seriously such a clumsy fake. In general, the Belarusian special services not only earned the Golden Raspberry Award, but also accurately informed the whole world that the “tough nut” had gone completely.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        5 September 2020 12: 35
        
        And what could be the “move for the West? They will write that the mustache is completely bad and completely not inventive, this is the maximum.
        
        I am more interested not in what they will write, but in how the opposition in the Bundestag will use this fact.
        Naturally, this information will be studied and checked for reliability.
        And if it turns out to be reliable, heads will fly. Rest assured.
      2. Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        5 September 2020 09: 01
        
        So, after all, "your" opinion on the instant reaction of the "West" to the incident with Navalny?
        Who, how and through what channels was able to notify the "West" so quickly?
        And the entire subsequent campaign to "save" Navalny was organized directly at some directly "supranational" level.
        Only very authorized special services of their own, especially important agents can evacuate so quickly and smoothly.
        In ordinary cases, a plane is not often sent to a foreigner, and ordinary mortals sometimes wait for a bed in the Charite for months. And for a visa, especially during a pandemic, you also need to go through the "procedure".
        If “you” all seem to be a common thing, then “you” are a great optimist, my friend.)
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -3
        
        5 September 2020 10: 10
        
        An instant reaction is quite expected - in the West they know very well about Navalny and, if necessary, can make decisions very quickly. Plus he has a lot of friends there. You will ask who and how organized the flight for him, it is freely available. But I'm wondering - those who write here that, they say, Navalny was poisoned on the way to Berlin, as they think - why did Navalny fall into a coma on board the plane flying from Tomsk to Moscow? With a drink? And the damned West took advantage of this, took it to itself and was already poisoned there? This is already a clinic - to ignore what does not fit into the invented scenario.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        5 September 2020 10: 59
        
        You will ask who and how organized the flight for him, it is freely available.
        
        Yes of course. Therefore, it is generally difficult to argue here:
        
        https://m.vz.ru/news/2020/9/4/1058746.html
        
        In the title photo of the article, on the back of the "orderly" pushing the "sarcophagus", there are some words written .. The beginning of the words is hard to see, but I can imagine what is written there: Bundeswehr Rettungsdienst.
        
        That is, there is no particular ambiguity about who organized and carried out the "flight"?
        
        But I'm wondering - those who write here that, they say, Navalny was poisoned on the way to Berlin, as they think - why did Navalny fall into a coma on board the plane flying from Tomsk to Moscow? With a drink? And the damned West took advantage of this, took it to itself and was already poisoned there? This is already a clinic.
        
        Well, I didn't say that. This is the first thing.
        Second, on the other hand, there is some logic here. After all, the Germans claim that traces of the "newcomer" were found in Navalny's body.
        This is also a "clinic")
        If the Germans even managed to find something that does not exist, then either it was "planted" later, or it was from the very beginning of the "poisoning", but then (!)
        - it was a much higher dose (before "weathering"), and some other people were supposed to be poisoned with this dose: from plane passengers to Omsk doctors, and ending with the same "orderlies" of the Bundeswehr (see photo), who are not protective equipment, except for FFT2, do not have masks on themselves.
        
        Conclusion - was there a boy ("beginner")?
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -3
        
        5 September 2020 11: 41
        
        Boris Zimin organized and paid for the transportation, you can ask who he is - there is about this on the network .. The Government of the Federal Republic of Germany promptly responded to the request, because he knows well who Navalny is. So no ambiguity. And where did you get the idea that you found “what is not”? Omsk doctors said? Well, it would be weird if they said they found something. They have to live and work in Russia. And about "protective equipment" - there is such a science of chemistry, and a lot of things can be built from acetylcholinesterase inhibitors, including those that are dangerous only when ingested. “Novice” is one of the representatives of this group, the most deadly, but there are many others, moreover, it can be a gas, and a liquid, or a gel. I understand that you have nothing to do with biochemistry, so I am trying to explain to you that everything is not quite the way it is told in the Russian media. Well, I would still like to get an answer - if no one hounded him, why did he fall into a coma on the plane from Tomsk to Moscow?
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        5 September 2020 11: 57
        
        Boris Zimin organized and paid for the transportation, you can ask who he is.
        
        Did the Israeli press tell you this?))
        This tough guy Boris Zimin, since he commands the German Bundeswehr)
        
        Omsk doctors said?
        
        Yes.
        
        And about "protective equipment" - there is such a science of chemistry, and a lot of things can be built from acetylcholinesterase inhibitors, including those that are dangerous only when ingested.
        
        Where were you, with your knowledge, when the Kremlin was preparing Bashirov and Petrov? ))
        How many unnecessary collateral sacrifices could have been avoided in Salisbury! Or would the Skripal rescuers still lick the poisoned ones? Well, to get inside)
        
        I understand that you have nothing to do with biochemistry.
        
        Well, I guess I have something to do with it. But we will not discuss this here.
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -2
        
        5 September 2020 12: 30
        
        1) Imagine, not Israeli, I read it in Russian! Give a link? And why should he command the Bundeswehr? This very quickly reached Merkel, and she may well give orders.
        2) Well, I knew where, in Israel, and learned the story of the Skripals together with everyone.
        3) About Omsk doctors - it is clear that you believe them. But to be honest, if I were in their place, I would probably say that nothing was found. Where could they go? They have to live and work in Russia. And yes, of course, Petrov and Bashirov, they are Chepiga and Mishkin, just two fagots who happened to be in Salisbury, of course. And the fact that the numbers of their passports with a difference of one digit is just a coincidence :)))
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        5 September 2020 11: 24
        
        ..The West knows very well about Navalny and, if necessary, can make decisions very quickly.
        
        And what do the "west" know so well about Navalny?)
        What he organized, paid for by the same Western special services, a rally on Bolotnaya?
        
        Or does this "politician" have any real achievements? Has he ever been elected somewhere? Did he hold any government post?
        
        Or, most likely, we are talking just about a CIA agent? (or some other Western intelligence agency).
        
        A sort of Russian "guaido"?)
        So even here - not according to Juan, the sombrero turned out to be.
        
        But as a sacred victim of the "Putin regime", he fits well into the scheme for the West.
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -2
        
        5 September 2020 12: 02
        
        But who will let him be elected? The Putin regime cleans out everyone who poses any threat to him. And why do you immediately slip into such a primitive - "CIA agent", "Guaido", "sacred victim"? And there are still achievements - he regularly shows what representatives of the Russian government are, and very demonstratively, with documents. And the answers in the style of Medvedev - "it's some kind of compote." That's all there is to know about the Russian government. Yes, and yet I do not hear an answer - what happened to Navalny on the plane from Tomsk to Moscow? "Metabolic disease"? I am already ashamed of such "answers". Although, again, it is understandable - they live and work here, but something needs to be said.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        5 September 2020 12: 30
        
        But who will let him be elected?
        
        Funny) But who will choose him?))
        
        The Putin regime cleans out everyone who poses any threat to him.
        
        Any mode does this. Merkel has also done a good job of cleaning up the political space around her. Moreover, even their own environment. Therefore, he has been in power for 15 years already.
        
        And why do you immediately slip into such a primitive - "CIA agent", "Guaido", "sacred victim"?
        
        Why am I rolling? This is not only my opinion. These versions are also voiced in the West. Moreover, they are quite viable.
        
        Yes, and yet I do not hear an answer - what happened to Navalny on the plane from Tomsk to Moscow?
        
        What do you really know about what happened? Just what the media say?
        Although ... there is a video on the plane, and Navalny's "howling" is clearly audible there. So, look at it carefully. If you are actually a doctor, then you will determine the nature of these sounds. It doesn't sound like screaming in pain. It is more attracted to huming quenched with alcohol or psychotropic drugs.
        By the way, again, about sounds ... if you are a physician at all, and competently talk about "metabolic disorders" .. In hypoglycemia, along with other symptoms, such as feelings of tension, anxiety, fear are often observed.
        And these are the howling sounds that a person experiencing fear can make. For example, fear of death.
        
        Natan bruk
        
        -2
        
        5 September 2020 13: 51
        
        Well, thanks for telling me about hypoglycemia :))) But first it would be nice to make sure that Navalny really has diabetes. I, of course, did not see his map, but "before" I had never heard that he suffers from diabetes. And why would he need psychotropic drugs? Or have you already made him a drug addict? And what "alcohol quenching" are you talking about? He got on the plane "extinguished", then he suddenly had hypoglycemia, and not just, but immediately a hypoglycemic coma, and then the Germans poisoned him on the way? Isn't it funny yourself? Well, about the elections - if no one voted for him, why then are they panicky afraid to be allowed to the elections? Let, show, how no one votes for him, and this will be the end of his political career. But no, even your Zeroed One is afraid to pronounce his last name :))) By the way, the example with Merkel is completely irrelevant - there is a different electoral system, that is, a party is elected there, and the party that wins enters into a coalition with others and forms a government, and the leader of the party becomes prime minister (chancellor), but he is already being elected at the party primaries. And in the FRG, no one is surely cleaning anyone. Well, the voters choose the Merkel party, and not, for example, the “greens”, what can you do - democracy. The head of state is elected only in the presidential republics, which the Federal Republic of Germany is not. By the way, Israel has the same system, and in many other countries. Forgive me for the political educational program, but apparently you were not aware. Alas, we will have to finish the correspondence for now. It looks like my quiet Saturday watch is coming to an end. Well, there will be a desire, we will continue later.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        5 September 2020 14: 13
        
        Well, thanks for telling me about hypoglycemia.
        
        Thank you, too, for introducing me to the basics of chemistry.
        
        But first it would be nice to make sure that Navalny really has diabetes.
        
        And I would like to make sure of the poisoning by a "newbie"))
        
        I, of course, did not see his map, but "before" I had never heard that he suffers from diabetes ..
        
        Yes you? And some have never even heard of Navalny's policies. What should they do now?))
        
        Or have you already made him a drug addict? And what "alcohol quenching" are you talking about? He got on the plane "extinguished", then he suddenly had hypoglycemia, and not just, but immediately a hypoglycemic coma.
        
        It is immediately obvious that you are a good doctor!))
        Is it okay that alcohol suppresses the organ responsible for the production of glycogen?
        And a good "infusion the day before" can even cause hypoglycemia in a diabetic.
        
        In short, everything is clear with you. I'm tired for today from your ignorance.)
        
        PS
        
        And already in the Federal Republic of Germany no one is cleaning anyone
        
        What are you talking about?)) How do you know what and how they are doing there? They also clean up.)
        Of the most famous "cleaned up": Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg - the former Minister of Defense of Germany, as well as Christian Wulff - the former Minister-President of the Land of Lower Saxony, and a candidate for the Chancellor's post.
        There are others, I just don’t want to discuss this topic with you anymore - you don’t understand anything about it.
        
        Sorry for the political educational program
        
        For God's sake!)
        
        Natan bruk
        
        0
        
        6 September 2020 08: 30
        
        Thank you for giving me your clumsy attempts to pull the owl onto the globe :))) I can only ask you once again - where did you get the idea that Bulk is a diabetic? And where did you get the idea that he had a "good infusion" the day before? Do the doctors in Omsk say they found traces of alcohol in the blood? So the day before yesterday I also drank a couple of glasses of brandy with a friend, and today you can also find traces of alcohol. And the fact that traces of acetylcholinesterase inhibitors were found in Germany, is this consistent with hypoglycemia? Ah, they all lie, I see. They took him to Germany in a hypoglycemic coma, and then they took him and poisoned him. Or they didn't find anything at all, but they came up with everything :))) You are frankly ridiculous and even distant with such "arguments". Really tired - what can be explained to a person who openly pretends to be a graduate of an auxiliary school? Adieu, "patriot" :)))
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        6 September 2020 11: 15
        
        where did you get the idea that Navalny is a diabetic?
        
        Guessed.
        Omsk doctors diagnosed a metabolic disorder. Diabetes is one of them.
        
        To deny the presence of any disease is even more stupid than to assume it, "colleague".
        
        If we go further, and judging by the clinical picture, this attack is similar to diabetic ketoacidosis, against the background of chronic pancreatitis.
        
        The doctors in Omsk said they found traces of alcohol in the blood? So the day before yesterday I also drank a couple of glasses of brandy with a friend, and today you can also find traces of alcohol
        
        Alcohol is just the topic.
        
        Hypoglycemia is a common complication of diabetes mellitus in chronic pancreatitis, as a result of impaired glycogen deposition due to inadequate calorie intake due to the intake of the same alcohol.
        
        And the fact that traces of acetylcholinesterase inhibitors were found in Germany, is this consistent with hypoglycemia?
        
        Not necessary. Although a causal relationship can be found.
        But this is not important, since traces of acetylcholinesterase inhibitors could be the result of Navalny's use of inhibitor-containing drugs for the treatment of some other existing diseases: neuritis, polyneuritis and polyneuropathy, myasthenia gravis or various myasthenic syndromes, and the same Alzheimer's disease and senile dementia.
        
        You are frankly ridiculous and even distant with such "arguments". Really tired - what can be explained to a person who openly pretends to be a graduate of an auxiliary school? Adieu, "patriot"
        
        I am pleased to return this to you, "colleague")
Sergey Latyshev

+1

4 September 2020 10: 11

Wah! At last!
We are waiting for the recording of the negotiations of the poisoners!
Dad, don't let me down.
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wolf46

+2

4 September 2020 11: 03

Too corny, implausible article).
Daddy promises anything on concessions to Russia (including writing off part of the national debt)!
nikolai.soot

+5

4 September 2020 12: 50

A betrayer once, can betray again and again, is ...
Eduard Aplombov

+3

4 September 2020 14: 13

I agree with the opinion that the mustachioed shape-shifter, as it got hot, threw himself under the wing of Russia and the Kremlin, while it is profitable for him, he will betray him again, if the Kremlin does not twist his arms without any hesitation and stakes out allied relations not with him, but with the state of Belarus ...
123

+3

4 September 2020 14: 34

I would recommend not opening the champagne just yet. The recording was made either yesterday, or the day before yesterday, who is talking to whom is unknown, the content of the conversation is also a mystery. Source.... so-so source ... ... More recently, I talked about "Wagner's" ...
I would like to hear what Russian officials and specialists have to say, we are waiting for confirmation of the authenticity of the recording, the full text of the conversation, and in the end, who spoke to whom.
1. Natan bruk
  
  -3
  
  5 September 2020 10: 22
  
  Most likely, Russian officials will not say anything and will simply remain silent on this topic until it is forgotten. They are unlikely to want to disgrace themselves in front of the whole world together with Lukashenka, and, of course, they cannot say that this is an awkward and stupid fake. Lukashenka does one stupid thing after another.
  1. 123
    
    +1
    
    5 September 2020 15: 04
    
    Let's wait and see. It is not yet clear what it was, however, I would not be surprised if he did not convey anything worthwhile.
Sapsan136

+2

4 September 2020 15: 57

Oh, don't tell me. All these allies, while they need something from the Russian Federation, and just as the Russian Federation needs something, they immediately begin to whine about their independence and multi-vector nature.
Yevgeny Mikhailov

-3

4 September 2020 16: 03

A well-known gentleman for the chair and fears his life. What does the country of Belarus have to do with it? Hundreds of thousands of voices from Belarus are shouting to this figure: "U-ho-di!"
"We, together with Belarus, will show these foes! ..." - the message of the article. Who are we"? Who does the author of the article identify with? With the Russian "middle class" receiving 17 a month or with a well-known Russian-speaking German Jew who decided that he was the "navel of the Russian land" and who was recently approved 000 (3 million per year) of monthly pay?
Navalny was dragged along by this gentleman ... "There is an elder in the garden, and in Kiev there is an uncle ...". The Polish "defensive" was naughty, "closing" the Omsk airport for the landing of a private plane to rescue Alexei N.? Better let the former chairman of the collective farm tell, where dozens (hundreds?) Of oppositionists "disappeared" in 26 years of his "rule". Not afraid of God or people? Well, well ... There were many such "high flying", self-confident and rude in the history of the world. Let him ask, "collective farmer", how they finished ...
1. Sergey Tokarev
  
  0
  
  4 September 2020 16: 23
  
  When Luka has on his account like Polpot oppositionists like you, then he will be afraid, but for now he, the father of a family with many children, threatens to die of love at most, like Lenin.
Observer2014

-3

4 September 2020 19: 11

A real ally: Lukashenka dealt a serious blow to the West by defending Russia

Yeah, I did. Inflicted. Already inflicted so inflicted. Ha ha ha ha !!! And today is Friday.
Heroes Heroes

+1

4 September 2020 19: 27

Mustache. As it got hot, I immediately remembered about the brothers.
Marciz

+1

4 September 2020 23: 16

Do not promote Lukashenka, the point is not in this Snot (like Yanyk), but in the fraternal Belarusian people. Sasha is the same sucker as Vitya, so please mention him less in articles about Belarus.
Dust

0

5 September 2020 08: 21

Article in the style of Star Wars!) There they group, here we are! Missiles of the Sarmatians, Vanguards, Daggers are ready for battle!?) ... Two thousand soldiers is power! Especially for the war with Russia.
Aleksandr53

0

5 September 2020 10: 03

Before they were published, they were checked by specialists from the FSB. Trump is good, he framed Merkel, and before that in Berlin, the protesters chanted - "Trump and Putin, save us from Merkel" - that framed Granny Merkel in full.
Yuri Shalnov

0

5 September 2020 13: 04

Luca is a professional traitor. While Putin was paying him, Luka reluctantly chirped praises about the "union state", but did not recognize Crimea! When the money ran out, Luca rushed to the boots of the USA ... Whoever betrayed once, he will betray more than once ...
Alexander Naydenov

0

5 September 2020 22: 09

Who so titled the article ??? In fact, it is Russia that protects Belarus from Western intervention, and Lukashenko from the fate of Gaddafi.
Nikolay Malyugin

+1

6 September 2020 10: 16

The current state of affairs will shorten the languages of those who called Belarusians freeloaders. Who would love this? It is clear that a country like Belarus largely depends on our country. But sometimes it's worth choosing expressions.
1. Igor Polyakov
  
  -1
  
  6 September 2020 11: 35
  
  They will always be freeloaders. Let them live on their own.
  1. Nikolay Malyugin
    
    0
    
    6 September 2020 20: 44
    
    Igor. There is a saying in the East. "There are apricots - there is salam aleikum. No apricots - no salam aleikum."
Igor Polyakov

0

6 September 2020 11: 34

What is the ally? Remember August 2008, Lukashenko supported the actions of Georgia in South Ossetia. In 2014, he was the first to recognize Turchinov's junta and bless him to start the ATO, after the introduction of sanctions against Russia, he drove the sanctions to Russia. Refused from the Russian military base. Arranged oil games.
Belarusians are friends only for money, this is their nat. hell. No money - in return you get immediately filth and hatred.
Alexander Markov

+1

6 September 2020 11: 58

To clearly state once again, in the event of provocations on our border by any NATO member, an immediate blow to the decision-making centers - Brussels and Fashington must be erased from the world map.
Dear sofa expert.

+1

6 September 2020 14: 37

Quote: igor.igorev
You read our media. Starting with regional newspapers and up. Everywhere they write only about thieves. And then read the US or EU media. Will you see that there? Or will you tell me that there are no thieves there?

I read both.
In terms of PR on negative information, I don't see any difference. But who makes you read / watch the "yellow" press?
Read / see more objective sources of information.