RP: Russians allowed to take Navalny to Berlin to humiliate the West

3 September 2020 28

After the Russians were allowed to take the opposition leader Alexei Navalny to Germany for treatment, the time has come for the entire West, writes the Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita.

Germany has a serious problem. The West has a serious problem. We have a serious problem. How seriously the countries of the non-Western world, and not just Russia, take us, the West, depends on how we react to the attempt to kill the most important Russian opposition leader. If it ends with a hoot, we'll show how weak we are. Therefore, we need to choose the path of strong influence on Moscow.

The German government is 100% sure of the attempt on Navalny's life. Berlin believes that the most influential opponent of Russian President Vladimir Putin was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group. Such substances cannot be bought in the store, so whoever uses it must have serious support.

The poison was used in Russia against a man who enjoyed the support of the middle class and fought against corruption. Now Navalny is in Berlin and underwent a professional examination. Therefore, there is no reason to doubt the conclusions of the specialists.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel would not require explanations from Moscow in such a harsh form without good reason. In addition, the joint statement German Foreign and Defense Minister Heiko Maas and Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer are very rare in themselves and indicate the seriousness of the issue. But the Germans are not yet ready to withdraw from the Nord Stream-2 project and are considering the poisoning of Navalny separately.

In other words, nothing, not even the sight of Russian oppositionists dying in our arms, will distract us from real cooperation with Moscow. This is roughly how Germany's behavior looks. If the case with Navalny ends with mini-sanctions in the form of a list of Russians who will be prohibited from skiing in the Alps, then woe to us!

Maybe the Russian special services specifically wanted to show our weakness and humiliate? Apparently, that is why they allowed to take Navalny to Berlin, since they are not at all surprised by the results of the examination, the Polish edition emotionally sums up.

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Foxmara

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3 September 2020 18: 31

Maybe because not all the nonsense has been said yet? I think there is Navalny's blood in Moscow and Omsk. And you can wait for the "final" diagnosis, listen to all the accusations, and then strike back. Such that they will forever remember that the trick with the highlighted likely does not always channel. So that gentlemen "accusers" could not get away from their own words. It will be truly funny to look at politicians and bloggers changing their shoes in the air.
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  3 September 2020 18: 56
  
  Quote: Foxmara
  there is Navalny's blood in Moscow and Omsk
  
  Respected Western laboratories with a long history will doubt this. Here the question is different - Navalny was in Siberia, but it was cold there and it was possible to slip on the ice on an ice ax so that it would definitely stick into the skull. And most importantly - quickly, on August 23, they would have been honorably buried, but by September 1 they forgot about it. But no, the "bloody dictator Putin" needed to suffer as long as possible - so that there would be enough for the tactical elections of 2019, and so that before the strategic elections of 2021 "after a long illness caused by poisoning by the special services of the Russian Federation, under cameras filming every convulsion in 8K resolution, the only real opposition candidate, Aleksey Navalny, has died "...
  As soon as I heard about "Novichok", all doubts about the poisoners disappeared. Of course, the "kurtosis of the performer" is not ruled out, who also has possibilities from his own understanding of good and evil, but this is no longer the problem of the "bloody dictator" as he is painted.
King3214

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3 September 2020 18: 54

What a bunch of Polish nonsense!
goncharov.62

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3 September 2020 18: 55

This Yale graduate is not supported by small businesses. Do not flatter yourself. He enjoys (temporarily, I think) the support of young lambs, weak on the mind, and exalted fools, weak on the front. Profiled American money, went into circulation. Even though this filthy sheep had a tuft of wool, they kicked them like a rat in their own way. Lesson for the future "guardians of the Russian land". The fate of BAB does not teach these anything ... Of course, he will be okay, because in bastard and impoverished Russia, even combat poison cannot be made normally. Except vodka - nothing, and that one is singed (praise "KB"!). Nothing - the earth is glass wool to all of them.
Dear sofa expert.

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3 September 2020 19: 20

The poison was used in Russia against a man who enjoyed the support of the middle class and fought against corruption.

Who "used the poison"?
- Putin?
- The opposition?
- CIA?

By the degree of profitability: to anyone, but not Putin.)

Enjoyed middle class support

Where such confidence??? )
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  3 September 2020 19: 30
  
  Quote: Dear sofa expert.
  Enjoyed middle class support
  
  This is a lot of people:
  
  Putin recalled that the minimum wage in Russia is slightly more than 11 thousand rubles, which means that the middle class is people who receive from about 17 thousand rubles. “We have a lot of them, more than 70% are confident,” the head of state said.
  
  https://www.rbc.ru/society/18/03/2020/5e71c7fd9a79478083068ee2
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    3 September 2020 20: 00
    
    This is a lot of people
    
    Does 70% of Russians support this little bitch? Baked a head for you? Even the corrupt trash heap Levada, which drew a rating of 25% for Putin, did not come to this.
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      3 September 2020 20: 09
      
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      This little thing
      
      Don't juggle. If you deny the quote, this is for you to RBC, not to me.
      By the way, is VTsIOM not corrupt?
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        3 September 2020 20: 50
        
        Don't juggle. If you deny the quote - this is for you to RBK, not to me stop
        By the way, is VTsIOM not corrupt?
        
        Am I twisting it? The quote about his support was "Rzhachi pospolita". Dull gentlemen, as usual, make a lie shamelessly, you have transferred everything to another topic. In this case, it doesn't matter how many are in the middle class. We are talking about the Polish lies and kefir rating of the "rubber duck".
        So we are working ... And then you are surprised that the poor fighters against the regime do not appreciate you .... Be glad that at least they don’t spit in the back.
        
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        3 September 2020 20: 57
        
        Quote: 123
        The quote about his support was "Rzhachi pospolita"
        
        Yeah, and this, of course, is hilarious propaganda:
        
        https://yandex.ru/efir?stream_id=46b20c2300b9fa139e6d03e13b7ead5f
        
        123
        
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        3 September 2020 21: 57
        
        Yeah, and this, of course, is hilarious propaganda
        
        Don't pretend to be naive. You pretend that the support of this marginalized by the middle class is beyond doubt. This is an outright lie. You are with the importunity of people walking around the apartments and asking - what do you think about God? Let's talk about this ... You are very similar to them when you translate everything into middle class numbers. It's disgusting. If you are in a free search for a buyer, just say so, they say, I need, while the place is free, I need to prove myself.
        
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        3 September 2020 22: 04
        
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        Don't pretend to be naive
        
        I do not need this - I am already outrageously naive.
        By the way - to give a reference, where VTsIOM first published a low GDP rating, and then pereobulsya on the fly, referring to an outdated method?
        I am sure that it is not necessary - and so you have seen everything and you know.
        
        123
        
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        3 September 2020 22: 23
        
        Did you work as a switchman for Russian Railways? You are not naive, see the previous comment.
        
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        3 September 2020 22: 26
        
        Quote: 123
        see previous comment
        
        Well, that is, about VTsIOM you do not need to "fill"
        
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        3 September 2020 21: 30
        
        Quote: 123
        "Rzhachi with a sprinkle"
        
        By the way, this trick - to ridicule and thereby devalue - is well used by state propaganda. The trick is that state propaganda is incapable of admitting its own mistakes (it's scary, suddenly funding will be cut off). That is why they trust her less and less (hence, presumably, and the irrepressible desire of Roskomnadzor to restrict anything on the Internet that contradicts propaganda, but the gut is thin on YouTube - not because they cannot, but because the state is imprisoned for "duing business" , and business without YouTube is difficult now - businessmen will raise the pitchfork when it closes) Here's a comparison of the April news releases in Israel and the Russian Federation for you and a few readers:
        
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  2. Dear sofa expert.
    
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    3 September 2020 23: 04
    
    This is a lot of people:
    Putin recalled that the minimum wage in Russia is slightly more than 11 thousand rubles, which means that the middle class is people who receive from about 17 thousand rubles. “We have quite a lot of them, more than 70% are confident,” the head of state said.
    
    And what does this have to do with what I have written?
    Even if 70% of Russians belong to the middle class, where is the confidence that they all support Navalny?)
    
    Your logic is kind of strange.
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  3 September 2020 21: 53
  
  Quote: Dear sofa expert.
  Who "used the poison"?
  
  The poison was injected into him on the plane to find in the Charite. That's all. Whether there is evidence of this or not is not important. The West can blame us without foundation, why can't we? Moreover, we did not find any poisons in his samples, which means that the Germans could have found him in the Charite, if only after our tests they poisoned him again. Isn't it a version?
123

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3 September 2020 19: 29

Woe to us, great woe ... sorrowful gentlemen lamented. We do not like to show our infirmity, and the strength is not the same today. And they prayed, crushed, asked the nurse-mother, to intercede for them unreasonable, to punish the insidious adversary ... So much so that mother herself would pay for everything and close the damned pipe, and would take more overseas gas from the gentlemen. And they would have been grateful and would not have begged for more subsidies and would have forgotten about reparations until the end of her powers.
Rum rum

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3 September 2020 20: 02

Several questions to understand the situation.
1. What do you think: there are samples of "Sisyan" fabrics left in Omsk?
2. Can Russia anonymously send these fabrics for an independent examination to several reputable, independent companies?
3. What will happen after the disclosure of the results of an independent examination?
Alexander Sosnitsky

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3 September 2020 21: 18

Here they are accustomed to poisoning. Hangings on scarves, bears in the streets, Russian savages during the capture of the Reichstag, etc. There is not enough imagination to change the record.
Sergey Latyshev

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3 September 2020 23: 15

Where such eccentrics are found. All of Europe must have been ransacked.
paramidon tablets

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4 September 2020 00: 02

In Omsk, Lyokhin's analyzes are in the refrigerator and are waiting in the wings for IKS - the upcoming world-historical shame of Germany ...
was-witek

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4 September 2020 00: 39

Complete degradation of the Western elites .....
Sergey A_2

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4 September 2020 06: 52

The most important Russian appointee !!!! Cool! Poles are burning!
Sergey A_2

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4 September 2020 06: 56

Frau Merkel, preparing to retire. This is their ritual, Russian, beginner and retire.
Ivancarafuto

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4 September 2020 07: 51

Since we are talking about the poisonous substance of the "Novichok group" and "the most important oppositionist", then we can not continue ... Navalny is not important, it is important to create an image of Russia as a "terrible poisoner" against whom all means are good ... Here and the whole purpose of the next propagandist provocation. It's just a pity, from a purely human point of view, Navalny and his family, they are "spent steam" in the political show of the West ....
olpin51

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4 September 2020 08: 37

The author of "Novichok", the scientist explained -

the military-chemical system "Novichok", which is a member of the family of organofluorophosphorus toxic agents of nerve action, acetylcholinesterase inhibitors, which has been rumored for several years in the West, is activated by an explosion and cannot be used in its pure form.

Well? What questions can there be, gentlemen?
Badger

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10 September 2020 16: 15

What nonsense! What primitives they are in intelligence!