A politician close to Erdogan showed a map of "Turkey of the future"

1 September 2020

Turkish politician Metin Kulunk, who is similar to Erdogan in geopolitical views, showed on the Internet a map of "Turkey of the Future" - he placed there parts of Bulgaria and Greece, Georgia, Iraq, Syria, Armenia and Cyprus. This is reported by the Bulgarian resource "Fakti".

Kulyunk not only posted the "map of Turkey" on Instagram and Twitter - he made a real appeal to the Greeks:

I appeal to the people of Greece to remember how we lived together for four centuries in peace and harmony, before we tasted the bitter taste of imperialism. Ask your historians and they will tell you - we lived like brothers. Was the taste of Turkish justice bad?

- exclaims Erdogan's ideologist.

In his graphic materials, this fan of Pan-Turkism actually calls for a redrawing of the world map and for the beginning of Turkish expansion in order to seize the territories of independent states

- note the correspondents of the Greek newspaper "O Chronos".

The "map" reflects the territories of the famous "National Oath" of a century ago, which has turned into a dogma of foreign policy aspirations of modern Turkish "hawks".

This exacerbation of relations between Ankara and Athens occurs against the background of Greece's attempts to expand its territorial waters in the Ionian Sea from 6 to 12 nautical miles, about which Italy and Albania were previously informed. The Greek territorial waters south of Crete will expand by the same amount in the zones defined by the recent agreement between Greece and Egypt.

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Offline _AMUHb_

_AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 1 September 2020 17: 49

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I like such impudence)) honestly))
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  Binder (Miron) 1 September 2020 18: 41
  
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  And I always liked to knock down arrogance from such impudent people.
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    Rum rum (Rum rum) 2 September 2020 14: 19
    
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    And who says this? An arrogant Jew? Where is the world heading?
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      Binder (Miron) 2 September 2020 21: 32
      
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      This is said by a Jew who was born and grew up in the USSR, where anti-Semitism was a state policy, who from childhood had to learn to resist a hostile environment and defend his right to a dignified life. And he learned it!
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        Rum rum (Rum rum) 2 September 2020 23: 30
        
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        where anti-Semitism was public policy
        
        Poor fellow, how did you survive in the cold Gulag?
        I have heard about many Jews, high-ranking officials of the USSR. What is it like?
        
        In general, how much pathos! You love this, it is in your blood.
        
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        Binder (Miron) 3 September 2020 16: 40
        
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        How's that?
        
        This is despite the efforts of such vicious anti-Semites like you.
        
        Offline Rum rum
        
        Rum rum (Rum rum) 3 September 2020 17: 57
        
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        Why did you decide that I vicious anti-Semite?
        I am a good anti-Semite.
        Believe it or not, there are Jews among my friends, but they do not show off and do not stick out.
        And if they stick out, then with a fair amount of self-irony. And this is impressive.
        And among them, there is no one who "in spite" - all thanks.
        
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        Binder (Miron) 3 September 2020 22: 01
        
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        Quote: Rum Rum
        Believe it or not, there are Jews among my friends
        
        You're right - I won't believe it. No normal Jew would befriend an anti-Semite.
        
        Offline Rum rum
        
        Rum rum (Rum rum) 3 September 2020 23: 22
        
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        Self-irony is not peculiar to you, which is why your position is so vulnerable.
        
        I don't like all nations, I like my friends. And I don't care what nationality they are.
        
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        Binder (Miron) 4 September 2020 05: 01
        
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        I have a strong dislike for anti-Semites and xenophobes of all stripes. And who and how you love there is the master's business.
        
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        Rum rum (Rum rum) 4 September 2020 14: 53
        
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        I admit dislike of anti-Semites, but you still need to look for such xenophobes as Jews like you. Remember your post about the Muslims, to the article about the Turkish Su-35.
        You accuse everyone of anti-Semitism, but who are you? Crying forever. Even the shrine is appropriate.
        
        Treat people the way you want them to treat you.
        
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        Binder (Miron) 4 September 2020 15: 31
        
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        I will not even think of making excuses for my words about Muslims. I can only clarify that all of them, regardless of ethnic origin and place of residence, hate anyone who is not a Muslim, be he Orthodox, Catholic or Jewish. This is the foundation of the Islamic worldview. At the same time, among the immigrants from Muslim peoples who are distant, for one reason or another, from Islam, there are often extremely worthy people. And how someone treats me, I have little interest.
        
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        Rum rum (Rum rum) 4 September 2020 18: 33
        
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        Now, speak out on this subject about the Jews. How do they relate to others? And we'll see how honest you are.
        
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        Binder (Miron) 4 September 2020 18: 36
        
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        Jews have no xenophobia at all. And it's not up to you to judge my honesty.
        
        Offline Rum rum
        
        Rum rum (Rum rum) 5 September 2020 14: 53
        
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        Well yes. Well yes.
        
        This is different. You need to understand!
        
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        Binder (Miron) 5 September 2020 14: 55
        
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        It is necessary. But you, apparently, are not given this ...
        
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        Rum rum (Rum rum) 5 September 2020 15: 00
        
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        When a person runs out of arguments, he begins to be rude.
        All the best.
        You are boring. Not to say worse.
        
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KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 2 September 2020 18: 00

The gut is thin!

Accidentally 2 September 2020 07: 06

Hai will remember how the Donets (5000 Cossacks + 800 Cossacks) crushed the vaunted Turkish 250000 army near Azov.

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KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 2 September 2020 18: 01

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Have you seen enough of Soyuzmultfilm?
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  Accidentally 3 September 2020 15: 23
  
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  Google Google - the defeat of the Turkish city of Azov in 1637-1642, everything is there.
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    KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 3 September 2020 15: 30
    
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    And you googled, as Peter paid off with his wife and gold.
    It is immediately noticeable that he has grown on Yandex.
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      Accidentally 3 September 2020 15: 35
      
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      The Bulavin uprising - we remember how Peter-1 (Erokha) ripped open the belly (bellies) of pregnant girls and women. So we trolled on. On the Don, we know Don's story well.
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        KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 3 September 2020 15: 37
        
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        300 years ago, an event took place that is not too pleasant for a Russian to remember: the Prut campaign of Peter I ended in a crushing failure.
        
        https://www.bbc.com/russian/russia/2011/07/110721_prut_campaign_history
        
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        Accidentally 3 September 2020 15: 59
        
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        Look to Azov and st. Starocherkasskaya, there are artifacts. Azov city scales, clock, city gates - which the Don people took out of the city in 1642, like trophies, when the Don people realized that the city could not be held, after Moscow refused to help the Don people. Donets have a negative attitude towards Peter.
Offline Jamal Mustafayev

Jamal Mustafayev (Jamal Mustafayev) 2 September 2020 19: 54

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What (5000 Cossacks + 800 Cossacks)? No need to describe fables, you are a storyteller, however? Go to Wiki and see how many Russians were not Cossacks, but the most powerful and professional army in the world at that time. The Russian soldier served 25 years and each soldier was essentially like a special forces officer of the Special Operations Forces today! In 1676, Doroshenko with a detachment of 12 captured Chigirin, counting on the approach of the Ottoman army, but in the spring of 1676 Russian-Ukrainian troops under the command of Samoilovich and the Russian commander Grigory Romodanovsky besieged Chigirin and forced Doroshenko to capitulate. Let's go further .... The Ottoman Sultan appointed Yuri Khmelnitsky, who was in captivity with him, as hetman of Right-Bank Ukraine, and in July 1677 he moved the 120-thousandth Ottoman-Crimean army of Ibrahim Pasha to Chigirin. The Russian garrison of Chigirin withstood a 3-week siege, and the approaching troops of Samoilovich and Romodanovsky (52-57 thousand people) on August 28 (September 7) defeated the Turkish-Tatar troops near Bushin and forced them to retreat. This was the first major war for the Crimea and Azov between Russia then Muscovy and the Ottoman Empire. Let's go further ... in July 1678, the Ottoman-Crimean army (about 200 thousand people) of the great vizier Kara-Mustafa laid siege to Chigirin. The Russian-Ukrainian troops (120 thousand people) under the command of Romodanovsky and Samoilovich defeated the Ottoman barrier, but then they acted slowly and hesitantly and approached Chigirin on August 11 (21), when the Ottoman troops had already managed to capture it. The Ottomans blew up Chigirin, exterminated the Moscow and Cossack detachments that were there, burned and destroyed the city to the ground. The Russian army left Chigirin to fend for itself and retreated beyond the Dnieper, throwing back the Ottoman troops pursuing her. Romodanovsky was recalled to Moscow, while Samoilovich was left alone on the right side of the Dnieper. He himself soon returned to the left bank of the Dnieper, while his son Semyon burned out all villages, cities and towns on the right side, so that the enemy people would no longer have a haven. The Ottomans left for the Danube earlier than this time, now for the burning of Chigirin. Then there were the second and third Russian-Ukrainian wars against the Ottoman Empire for the Crimea and Azov, and each on the side of our Russian armies had less than 130 thousand against the 200-250 thousand army of the Ottoman Empire.
PS At school I passed the story ahead of schedule a year in advance and at the UNIVERSITY also ahead of schedule a year in advance, and I know the story better than yours, at least ...
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  KNF (KNF) 2 September 2020 23: 09
  
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  Do not forget, Greece is not Armenia, not Syria, not Libya or Iraq ..... So the Turks will be torn apart, which will not seem like a little. As in its time little Israel tore all the Arab countries ... Muslims are formidable only in words.
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    Eskimo (Gera) 3 September 2020 07: 41
    
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    Jamal, boy, how come and you Erdo troller speak Russian?
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    KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 3 September 2020 15: 32
    
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    And who will break, Greek women or buckwheat?
    They should sew up their trousers. Beggars exist at the expense of the EU.
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  Accidentally 3 September 2020 15: 18
  
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  Jamal, 1637-1642 - look at these years. The city of Azov is a complete defeat of the Turkish Army, but this is a historical fact ...... 93 days 93 nights were defended by the Don people of the city of Azov and the whole world wavered. It's incredible. But this is a fact. And we honor and remember the feat of our grandfathers.
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  Accidentally 4 September 2020 06: 50
  
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  I recommend that you learn the history anew, and then put at least millions of minuses .... History of the Cossacks E. Savelyev. Don Cossacks at the dawn of their history N.A. Mininkov. M.P. Astapenko ... Don Cossacks ... A.I. Rigelman, A. Venkov and other historians of the Don.
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  Seaman_2 (White Sea) 13 September 2020 07: 19
  
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  Nevertheless, I believe that the number of Ottoman troops is greatly exaggerated. And, accordingly, the number of ours. If the sultans could safely send 200 thousand troops to Ukraine, given that they are unlikely to send more than 1/3 of their army (after all, someone should remain in their homeland), then Turkey would bend all of Europe. And our Pyotr Alekseevich, in his Great campaign against Turkey, could not even collect 100 thousand.
  If you cut off both of them, it will be the very thing. Turks 20-25 thousand and ours 13-15 thousand.
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Sergey Petrovich (Sergei) 3 September 2020 18: 29

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Well, the Turks can also remind that they, it was the case, surrounded our entire army, led by the king himself and his entire court. But we somehow never surrounded the Sultan with the harem.
Starting negotiations with the Turks about surrender, Peter I sent a letter to the senators with a reliable courier to Moscow:

I inform you that without any fault or imprudence on our part, I am surrounded on all sides by a Turkish army, which is four times stronger than ours, and I am deprived of all methods of obtaining provisions without any guilt or imprudence on our part, solely on the basis of false news received. I cannot foresee anything else, so I will die with all our people, or I will be taken prisoner. In the latter case, do not regard me as your king and sovereign and do not carry out any orders, which then, perhaps, would have been written from me to you, until I myself return to you. If I perish and you receive the correct news of my death, then choose the most worthy of you as my successor.

This letter is given in the notes of Yakov Shtelin, but the original has not survived, which causes many historians to doubt the existence of such a document.
But a note of Peter I to Shafirov has survived:

Bet with them on everything except school

(i.e., agree to everything except slavery).

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olpin51 (Oleg Pinegin) 1 September 2020 18: 49

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Do you give yourself too?

GRF 1 September 2020 19: 15

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A modest map, they are constantly reminded by nationalist extremists that their ancestral home is Altai and they must return all their ever former lands ...
Wouldn't choke on such happiness ...

Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 1 September 2020 19: 42

These undertakings of Erdogan will not lead to anything positive, since Turkish politicians have no unifying idea, except for "neo-Ottomanism." And this idea is clearly not suitable for all those whom they want to include in their new "empire". The conclusion follows from this - a complete failure!

Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 1 September 2020 20: 37

Ha. Looks like an anecdote. Like the will of Peter or the Zionist diaries.

Bulgarians !!! We have laid out the Turk's card !!! (the stump is clear, Erdogan's double is direct), where he grabbed a little bit from literally everyone !!!!, who turns to the Greeks !!!! (almost in verse), and already other Greeks !!! they begin to condemn it (naturally).

Directly reminds:

Son, a spy, there have never been any blacks in our aul ...

boriz (boriz) 1 September 2020 21: 28

I have already noted the significant suicidal nature of Erdogan's thinking.
Bulgaria, Greece, the Republic of Cyprus are EU members. Bulgaria and Greece are also NATO members.
Europe will soon begin (like the United States) to transfer production to itself and will keep its teeth on sales markets. Who will give the markets to Turkey? On the contrary, they will be kicked out of, for example, Bulgaria and not only.
It is not visible on the map, is he going to oust the Russian Federation from Khmeimim? Nothing will crack? And take the oil fields of Syria? Forgotten 2015? But Putin may not warn about the coup next time ...
The more Turkey displays such cards, the less of it will remain.

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Seaman_2 (White Sea) 1 September 2020 22: 45

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The card was placed either by a Greek or an Armenian. And nobody is credited with "a politician close to Erdogan."
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  Sergey Petrovich (Sergei) 3 September 2020 18: 32
  
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  Already corrected. It is no longer "a Turkish politician close to Erdogan", but "a Turkish politician Metin Kulunk, similar to Erdogan in geopolitical views." :))))))
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Bulanov (Vladimir) 2 September 2020 08: 58

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Europe will soon begin (like the United States) to transfer production to itself and will keep its teeth on sales markets.

What energy will this production be? Green technologies from Greta Thunberg, or American LNG? If you increase production, then Russia needs gas, and for this you need to tell the Americans - NO! And Europitecs will never say this, because they are afraid. Therefore, production will grow in Asia and, possibly, in Russia, using its inexpensive energy sources.

Greg l (Greg L) 2 September 2020 02: 44

Well, again to save the brothers, save the Georgians, and then they will betray the first, as always.

Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 2 September 2020 06: 14

Bluff, nothing more. Economically, the lack of allies and internal political unity, the Kurdish problem, the Syrian knot are evidence that Turkey cannot afford such a "card" at present. You need to stretch Turkish legs over the clothes.

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Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 2 September 2020 11: 50

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The map is not complete, there is no Georgian Batumi, which is inhabited by the Turks and economically already under them ... The map is not so absurd, the territories now inhabited by the Turkomans are marked on it ... Only the Greek part of Cyprus and Greece will not fit, like most of Bulgaria, although a smaller part is inhabited by Turks, that one can move away ... The territories torn from the metropolis, inhabited by Turkomans, will not be able to move to Turkey, therefore there is no need to worry about Altai and other things, although Turkey's influence there will grow, given the existing rotten and unprincipled policy of the ruling in Russia ... After the collapse of the world system with the socialist community (in fact, World War 3), the redistribution of the world and the redistribution of borders continues, as after another world war ...

Alexander Kuchin (Alexander Kuchin) 2 September 2020 12: 46

Let them take it away, maybe they will circumcise the Georgians and Bulgarians.

Denis K (Denis K) 2 September 2020 13: 57

Well, if you do not take into account that Syria has already been divided in fact, then there is nothing to worry about in Greece, Bulgaria, and Georgia. You just have to stay out of the way at first.
And already come to the section of the pie.

Nikolay Malyugin (Nikolai Malyugin) 3 September 2020 08: 18

This is another stuffing, where wishful thinking is given out. If Turkey counts on a fifth column, then it is in vain. These migrants fled Turkey and have already tasted European life. They would rather turn to Bulgaria. There they would gain greater understanding. Turkey is still capable of doing some bites, but no more. To fight on everything imported is to doom yourself to defeat.

dmitriy.a.smirnov2512 (Dmitry Smirnov) 7 September 2020 23: 52

It’s not a pity for the Greeks and Bulgarians, even if the Turks cut them out at least to zero :)
As history has shown, they are ungrateful.