Turks about testing the S-400 on the F-16: Now we understand why we need the Russian air defense system so much


In July 2020, the Turkish military conducted exercises at the Myrted air base near Ankara, during which they aimed their S-400 air defense systems at American F-16 fighters. This was regarded by the White House as a provocation, especially since the tests were carried out the day after negotiations between the presidents of Turkey and the United States. This is reported by the Turkish edition Haber7.


Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jim Rush, in an interview with Defense News, stressed the decline in the level of cooperation between Washington and Ankara in recent years. This cooling was influenced by Turkey's purchase of S-400 complexes from Russia - according to Rush, this deal is beneficial to Putin and threatens the integrity of the North Atlantic Alliance.

This is how some Turkish readers reacted to this news:

The US itself threatens NATO - they must be removed from there

- says the user with the nickname "blue homeland".

Athens has the same missile systems, but they do not undermine the Alliance system. But we have better. We will also buy the S-500

- remarks Selami Uchar.

You only care about NATO interests, and who will handle Turkish affairs?

- Avshar is indignant.

And what else should we test air defense systems on - do we have other aircraft?

- the user with the nickname "humanity" asks logically.

What other planes should have been targeted (Greece has an F-16)? Now we understand why we need a Russian air defense system. We can declare the entire Mediterranean as an unmanned zone. The Russian Federation is not our friend, but threats come from the West as well. We don't have our own air defense systems yet - we have to buy from others

- such a comment is given by Akhmet.

I will not forget that the Russians made our 34 soldiers martyrs. It's better to be friends with the USA than with Moscow

- the user assumes "citizen".

Turkey is in NATO, but the main threat to us comes precisely from the countries of the Alliance. Look at Greece, Syria, Democratic Union. The threat is not Russia, but the United States. It is because of Washington that our country has lost more than 34 thousand people in the fight against terrorism

- this is the opinion of the user with the nickname "Chechen".

Well, have those who talk about the inactivation of the S-400 systems "eaten"?

- the user "alp" asks maliciously.

The United States sponsors terrorism and kills civilians. Don't worry, we'll test it on the F-35 too

- “calms down” Kirkdokuzelli.

Or maybe "by mistake" we take and shoot down an American plane? They can "accidentally" do it, and why can't we?

- makes a proposal from Afk.

Great news, I liked it

- the user "Iz Tokata" expresses his attitude to the tests of the S-400 on American aircraft.
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  1. Dmitry S. Offline
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 17 August 2020 20: 36
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    Peace and harmony reign within the NATO bloc ...
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 17 August 2020 21: 11
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      We are approaching a turbulent zone, a new redivision of the world, as soon as the USA is blown away or the showdown with China ends - who is more important; and there are rows of states with a bunch of grievances and problems unresolved and crushed by the United States. Or else it will be until everything is "settled" ... Stock up on food and sit in front of the TV, preferably in the bunker ...
      1. Binder Offline
        Binder (Miron) 17 August 2020 22: 15
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        Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
        Stock up on food and sit in front of the TV, preferably in a bunker ...

        But the question begs itself - will the Russians have something to stock up on? Really, until now, you have not understood a simple, like 2 kopecks, truth - if the United States becomes bad, then Russia will become much worse. As in that old saying - "While the fat one dries, the skinny one will die." what
        1. Satellite Offline
          Satellite (Satellite) 17 August 2020 23: 04
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          But the question begs itself - will the Russians have something to stock up on?

          The Russians will have something to stock up on. Russia has a resource base of 3 world wars that will easily survive. Americans are weak. Some show-off. They will lose.
          But you would rather worry about yourself more.
          When the Russians start hitting the Americans, they (the Americans) will have no time for you. They will save the most precious thing they have - their asses. And then you will be left without a "dad behind your back." And you, your enemies (the Arabs are there, or whoever else - you've already got everyone there) will simply be ground to dust. And even if you survive, you will eat stones and seize them with sand. You have nothing else in your desert.
          1. Michael1950 Offline
            Michael1950 (Michael) 18 August 2020 00: 40
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            When the Russians start hitting the Americans

            - Well, humorist! Well, he made fun! Tell me, humorist, why Putin didn't take Novorossiya in 2014 ?! She herself fell into her hands ?! Is the Ukrainian armed forces scared ?? And this is when the "Americans are ready to beat" ?! laughing lol
            1. Satellite Offline
              Satellite (Satellite) 18 August 2020 00: 52
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              Well, humorist! Well, he made fun! Tell me, humorist, why Putin didn't take Novorossiya in 2014 ?! She herself fell into her hands ?! Is the Ukrainian armed forces scared ?? And this is when the "Americans are ready to beat" ?!

              I don't see any connection. You, apparently, are narrow-minded if you do not understand the difference between fraternal relations, where delicacy is needed, and the attitude of Russians towards the enemy, where there will be no more room for sentimentality. The Russians will flatten America as they flattened the Swedes, French and Germans.
              A war against Russia for destruction, my stupid interlocutor, this is not to show you figurines to sparrows.
              1. Michael1950 Offline
                Michael1950 (Michael) 18 August 2020 08: 54
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                Indeed, "fraternal relations": first they chopped off a whole peninsula, then they made a mess in Donbass (but annexing it is somehow dumb?), - but what about fraternal assistance to the Russian people in the regions of Novorossiya ?? Where people groan under the yoke of the Westerners, deprived of the opportunity even to speak their native language, in areas where the Zaporozhets' horse has never been lying for three hundred years ?!
                Where is the Russian liberation army ?! Ready to bring freedom to your brothers ?! Or is your brother a Westerner for you? Or even a Jewish Bandera ?! am
                1. Bulanov Offline
                  Bulanov (Vladimir) 18 August 2020 09: 37
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                  Where has the Zaporozhets' horse never been lying for three hundred years ?!

                  In order not to confuse the Orthodox Zaporozhian with the Uniate Bandera, I advise you to re-read (or read) Taras Bulba. Gogol wrote in the 19th century.
                  1. Michael1950 Offline
                    Michael1950 (Michael) 18 August 2020 09: 42
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                    ?? So who is running the show in Nenka-Ukraine: Orthodox Bendera, or Uniate Cossacks ?!
                    1. Bulanov Offline
                      Bulanov (Vladimir) 18 August 2020 11: 01
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                      There were already explanations earlier that the "Bendera" is a resident of the city of Bender.

                      a city in the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic, the main port on the Dniester River, the largest railway junction of the Pridnestrovian railway.
                  2. 321 Offline
                    321 (321) 18 August 2020 10: 13
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                    Quote: Bulanov
                    Where has the Zaporozhets' horse never been lying for three hundred years ?!

                    In order not to confuse the Orthodox Zaporozhian with the Uniate Bandera, I advise you to re-read (or read) Taras Bulba. Gogol wrote in the 19th century

                    They have no time to read, they need to write posts. bully negative
                2. 321 Offline
                  321 (321) 18 August 2020 10: 03
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                  Quote: Michael1950
                  Indeed, "fraternal relations": first they chopped off the whole peninsula, then they made a mess in the Donbass ...

                  Tell your tales about "chopping off" to those close to you personally in spirit - and who and where, on the Censor, or somewhere else - I'm NOT interested ... This is your social circle.
                  No wonder the anecdote was formed, even at that time - "Ukraine so often repeated that it was time for Muscovites to go home, that the whole peninsula followed this advice." bully
                  And about the mess - are not tired of repeating all the same? Either about the "explosions of air conditioners" or about the tank-Buryat hordes?

                  Quote: Michael1950
                  ... Where is the Russian liberation army ?! Ready to bring freedom to your brothers?! ...

                  A counter question - for what purpose are you interested? You personally DO NOT belong to the number of allies and friends - so you have to draw information from publicly available sources. hi

                  Quote: Michael1950
                  ... Or is your brother a Westerner for you? Or even a Jewish Bandera ?! am

                  Looking for your relatives? Your original method ... laughing
                3. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
                  Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 18 August 2020 19: 59
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                  Quote: Michael1950
                  "fraternal relations": first they chopped off the whole peninsula, then they made a mess in Donbass (but is it somehow dumb to annex it?)

                  And there was no need to smear blood behind the executioners. Fled to occupy Iraq? Note that they did not go to kill the Iraqis for their own interests. For American.
                  They destroyed Iraq - they caught the infection of the collapse. Not only Ukraine with Crimea - Georgia with Ossetia and Abkhazia, Catalonia did not secede only because all Catalans were imprisoned, Scotland 158% of those who voted against leaving, 46% of those who voted for leaving. Italy is trying to divide into North-South ...
                  So in vain did the Ukrainians get into Iraq. Oh, how in vain!
          2. Cyril Offline
            Cyril (Kirill) 18 August 2020 04: 32
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            Russia has a resource base of 3 world wars that will easily survive.

            What rampant fantasies)
            1. Michael1950 Offline
              Michael1950 (Michael) 18 August 2020 09: 43
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              - Crazy fantasies ...
            2. Satellite Offline
              Satellite (Satellite) 18 August 2020 11: 46
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              What rampant fantasies

              Three words - six cons. Your personal best?))
              1. Cyril Offline
                Cyril (Kirill) 19 August 2020 00: 59
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                Only children pay attention to the cons :)
                1. Satellite Offline
                  Satellite (Satellite) 19 August 2020 01: 36
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                  Only children pay attention to the cons :)

                  Do you think? Well, then they also came up with benchmarking for children)
                  1. Cyril Offline
                    Cyril (Kirill) 19 August 2020 07: 49
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                    Only children compare "plus / minus signs on the Reporter" with the methodology for assessing the effectiveness of an enterprise :)
                    1. Satellite Offline
                      Satellite (Satellite) 19 August 2020 09: 31
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                      Only children compare "plus / minus signs on the Reporter" with the methodology for assessing the effectiveness of an enterprise :)

                      Nonsense) Benchmarking is equally applicable both in production and absolutely in all other areas.

                      This is just a comparative analysis of any results for a certain measure (scale) of measurement.

                      In the same production, for example, when identifying the KTU of each employee of the group, a number of indicators are taken into account, from the direct productivity of the employee, for example, the amount of products produced for a certain time, as well as (but to an even greater extent) the social qualities of the employee: his , so to speak, compatibility with the team, which is very important, since well-coordinated teamwork automatically increases overall productivity.

                      It's the same here. Arranging the pros or cons, each actually expresses his opinion about the "necessity" of finding this or that "user" here.

                      Your disadvantages are a signal reflecting the attitude of other users towards you and your opinion. This is an objective indicator of the rejection of an element unnecessary to society.

                      Draw conclusions.
                2. 321 Offline
                  321 (321) 19 August 2020 06: 42
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                  Quote: Cyril
                  Only children pay attention to the cons :)

                  Only children in this case do not pay attention to the attitude towards them, the general attitude, and your attempts to open everyone's eyes laughing - Well, I’ll put it mildly, diplomatically - they look very peculiar, especially about skipped lessons about someone, do you all live according to school textbooks? bully
                  And real life is somewhat more complicated, but your ignorance of this somehow does NOT surprise you, you are from the same company - "lost", "youseyforever" and "muskbest", this is your choice, I am not interested ...
                  1. Cyril Offline
                    Cyril (Kirill) 19 August 2020 07: 40
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                    Only children in this case do not pay attention to the attitude towards them, the general attitude

                    First, what "general relation" are we talking about? My comments have both positive and negative ratings. Sometimes the negative ones outweigh, sometimes the positive ones, sometimes neither.

                    Secondly, if we were talking about some people who play a significant role in my life - yes, their opinion would be important to me. But the commentators on the Reporter unknown to me are just commentators on the Reporter :)

                    Although, maybe you have a painful need to mean at least something to people you don't know, that's why you are like that :)

                    do you all live by school textbooks? bully

                    Including them. Schools do not just exist, they provide general education. But I understand that it turned out to be a discovery for you :)

                    And real life is a little more complicated

                    I know about this much better than you do :) This is your West (and the United States in particular) - evil, only striving to destroy Russia :)

                    it's your choice, I'm not interested in it ...

                    It's so uninteresting that you got into my conversation with another person to tell me about it :)

                    I ran after you for three days and three nights to say how indifferent you are to me.

                    laughing
                    1. 321 Offline
                      321 (321) 19 August 2020 09: 14
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                      Quote: Cyril
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                      do you all live by school textbooks? bully

                      Including them. Schools do not just exist, they provide general education. But I understand that it turned out to be a discovery for you :) ...

                      But for you, it seems, the discovery that there is a next stage - we call a higher school, but this, apparently, passed you by, including the fact that in textbooks of this level, the conclusions of the school are largely refuted ... hi

                      Quote: Cyril
                      ... I know about this much better than you do :) This is your West (and the United States in particular) - evil, only striving to destroy Russia :) ...

                      Consider so and so on - although many representatives of the same West, naturally, on the sidelines, not publicly, in fact, just said what you don't like so much - but you have a vague idea of ​​this, judging by their public speeches, so that stay with your opinion and further, and how true is it - as you wrote there a little earlier - to "strangers"? So I don't worry too much about you - if you want to be mistaken - your choice. bully

                      Quote: Cyril
                      ... It's so uninteresting that you got into my conversation with another person to tell me about it :) ...

                      I gave three fairly specific topics - your opuses about space and the Mask are of little interest to me - there is an opportunity to receive information from more objective and reliable sources - if people work for Musk, do they know better or worse than you what exactly is happening there?
                      Especially when it is possible to also have information from the other side - well, let's call it from Roscosmos, although it's not precisely named ...
                      And your aspirated attitude towards the United States is very noticeable - this is your choice, and what is going on there - although I myself have not been there for several years, but those who live and work there - they know worse than you what and how is it going on there? bully hi negative
                      1. Satellite Offline
                        Satellite (Satellite) 19 August 2020 10: 20
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                        Schools do not just exist, they provide general education.

                        Schools provide general PRIMARY education. And also serve to determine the potential of your learning ability for further development.
                    2. Satellite Offline
                      Satellite (Satellite) 19 August 2020 09: 56
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                      My comments have both positive and negative ratings.

                      Self-esteem is also an integral part of benchmarking.) Moreover, its overestimation or underestimation does not play any role. The rest of the "test" participants will push you to the position that you objectively deserve.
                    3. Satellite Offline
                      Satellite (Satellite) 19 August 2020 10: 07
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                      if it were about some people who play a significant role in my life - yes, their opinion would be important to me.

                      We are not talking about what is important to you and what is not important.

                      It is exclusively about the signal being given to you: "..or speak to the point, or disappear, and do not interfere with others to exchange and receive information .."
                      Users have no other way to influence, except for putting a minus or plus. Therefore, this is the only way for you to express your dislike.

                      And don’t lie to yourself (this is not productive.

                      The fundamental needs of every normal person include such a concept as the recognition of society.

                      To those who do not care about this recognition (self-sufficiency), he leads a more "hermit" lifestyle, and does not climb "with his feet" into the soul "to this society. You at the door, and you, back - out the window. )

                      What can not be said about you - "sticking out" here in "society" day and night, and writing "kilometer foot wraps")
            3. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
              Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 18 August 2020 20: 01
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              Quote: Cyril
              What rampant fantasies)

              Is the US toilet paper crisis not enough for you? A small nuisance - and there is nothing to wipe with in all America. And the supermarkets were empty. So that paper is not required.
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                Cyril (Kirill) 19 August 2020 01: 00
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                A small nuisance - and there is nothing to wipe with in all America.

                Yes Yes Yes. All America swam with feces, choke. The collapse of the hegemon is obvious, the dollar has already collapsed :)
                1. 321 Offline
                  321 (321) 19 August 2020 06: 45
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                  And what's the connection between the flood of feces, the dollar, and toilet paper? negative
                  But I will not undertake to argue with you in this matter - in this you are a major specialist. bully
                  1. Cyril Offline
                    Cyril (Kirill) 19 August 2020 07: 41
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                    and what is the connection between the influx of faeces, dollar and toilet paper?

                    So you are asking me - I did not start broadcasting about the toilet paper crisis :)

                    I understand that it’s morning, but it’s time for you to wake up already :) Old people seem to wake up early, right?
                    1. 321 Offline
                      321 (321) 19 August 2020 09: 20
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                      They wrote to you about the lack of paper, but you have already given the further, but I repeat once again - you are an expert on feces issues, I will not argue with you on this topic bully
                      PS Ask your old people ...
                      1. Cyril Offline
                        Cyril (Kirill) 19 August 2020 17: 25
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                        They wrote to you about the lack of paper

                        So ask the person who wrote this how it is related to the statement that

                        Russia can easily withstand 3 world wars.

                        but further - you have already led

                        I gave my absurd comment to the absurd comment - and nothing more :)

                        you are an expert on faeces, I will not argue with you on this topic bully

                        So don't argue :)
                      2. 321 Offline
                        321 (321) 20 August 2020 08: 24
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                        Quote: Cyril
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                        I gave my absurd comment to the absurd comment - and only :) ...

                        About the absurdity of the commentary, or rather the absurdity of the lack of paper, you tell those who have encountered this in practice, living in the United States - it was almost fun to read letters from there - about almost a return to the days of the USSR deficit and the like - but it's absurd for you personally - nu-nu ... bully
              2. Satellite Offline
                Satellite (Satellite) 19 August 2020 10: 25
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                All America swam with feces, choke. The collapse of the hegemon is obvious, the dollar has already collapsed

                All - not all, but there were problems with the provision. 321 is definitely right.
                The collapse of the hegemon is obvious - a matter of time.
                The dollar is inside the United States - yes, you can say that. Its purchasing power within the country has declined greatly.
                On the outside, it is clearly overrated.
        2. Binder Offline
          Binder (Miron) 18 August 2020 04: 36
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          Quote: Satellite
          When the Russians start hitting the Americans

          For a start, the Russians would have to deal with the Chechen shepherds so that they do not pay tribute, you heroes, who have no analogues. lol

          Quote: Satellite
          your enemies (the Arabs there, or whoever else - you've already got everyone there) will simply grind to dust.

          Many have tried to grind us into powder, and where are those would-be erasers now, starting with the pharaohs and ending with the USSR? bully

          Quote: Satellite
          you will eat stones and seize with sand. You have nothing else in your desert.

          So far, from this desert, we and you into the generous rich laughing We supply vegetables to Russia ... Bon appetit! hi
          1. Satellite Offline
            Satellite (Satellite) 18 August 2020 12: 01
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            Many have tried to grind us into powder, and where are those would-be erasers now, starting with the pharaohs and ending with the USSR?

            Some rubbish))
            Whom - you? Israelis? Pharaohs?)) So the pharaohs, it seems, died out even before 1948?
            THE USSR?
            So, it seems, the USSR in the UN just voted for the creation of Israel.
            And before that, the citizens of the USSR, at the cost of their lives, saved your lives (worthless - as it turned out), freed you from Nazi concentration camps.
            Remind me how you, heroic soldiers, ended up in these concentration camps?
            The Nazis just stupidly walked through your houses, and sewed your six-pointed stars on each sleeve of your jacket, and then they gathered you according to these stars, and, like obedient rams, seated you in the heating houses, and took you to the barracks of concentration camps.
            Pharaohs))
            And today you hide behind the broad back of the Americans, and bark like a dwarf dog at passers-by.
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              Binder (Miron) 18 August 2020 17: 06
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              Quote: Satellite
              Remind me how you, heroic soldiers, ended up in these concentration camps?

              Jewish warriors fought on the fronts, and women, children and old people fell into concentration camps. And Russian neighbors handed them over to the Germans, the Nazis themselves did not know who was a Jew in the occupied city and who was not.
              1. 321 Offline
                321 (321) 19 August 2020 06: 49
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                Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                ... women, children, old people were sent to concentration camps. And Russian neighbors handed them over to the Germans, the Nazis themselves did not know who was a Jew in the occupied city and who was not.

                Of course, of course, and we kind of believe you - negative and you, as usual, "forgot" about some of the features - your colleagues' appearance is usually rather peculiar, so your next attempt to translate the arrow into Russian - alas, failed. hi
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                  Binder (Miron) 19 August 2020 16: 32
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                  Dear, the questions of your faith are completely indifferent to me. As for the appearance, then everything is far from so unambiguous ...
                  1. 321 Offline
                    321 (321) 20 August 2020 08: 31
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                    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                    Dear, the questions of your faith are completely indifferent to me. As for the appearance, then everything is far from so unambiguous ...

                    If you need to explain the difference between "believe" and "faith", there is nothing to talk about further.
                    And as for the appearance - my grandmother showed a photo of her work colleague in her deep childhood - a very characteristic appearance, whether you like it or not ... bully
              2. Satellite Offline
                Satellite (Satellite) 19 August 2020 13: 38
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                And Russian neighbors handed them over to the Germans

                This is generally tough!)) Russian neighbors on the territory of the then fascist Germany and Poland?)

                And about the Jews from the former USSR, you kind of voiced that they wanted to erase you.)
                Do you even think when you write?
                And if so, in what place?
                1. Binder Offline
                  Binder (Miron) 19 August 2020 16: 29
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                  You, citizen, have obvious problems understanding the printed text. I sympathize, but I cannot help. hi
        3. KARAKURT21 Offline
          KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 18 August 2020 14: 14
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          Quote: Satellite
          The Russians will have something to stock up on. Russia has a resource base of 3 world wars that will easily survive. Americans are weak. Some show-off. They will lose.

          Don't make my sneakers laugh. Were it not for the Americans, victory would not have shone for the Union! Rinse your brains and read smart books.
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            Satellite (Satellite) 18 August 2020 14: 48
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            Don't make my sneakers laugh. Were it not for the Americans, victory would not have shone for the Union! Rinse your brains and read smart books.

            I don't speak Mova, so read your "smart" books yourself.
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            Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 18 August 2020 20: 08
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            Quote: KARAKURT21
            Were it not for the Americans, victory would not have shone for the Union!

            Yes, 200 thousand Americans drove 50 thousand Germans until they got to the Ardennes. And there was no toilet paper.
            And the one and a half million German army in the East (well, what was left of 3,5 million from Barbarossa) drove 5 million Soviet army into the tail and mane. First from Stalingrad, then from Kursk, then from Minsk, then from Vienna, then they drove to Berlin ...
          3. 321 Offline
            321 (321) 18 August 2020 21: 02
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            Quote: KARAKURT21
            Quote: Satellite
            The Russians will have something to stock up on. Russia has a resource base of 3 world wars that will easily survive. Americans are weak. Some show-off. They will lose.

            Don't make my sneakers laugh. Were it not for the Americans, victory would not have shone for the Union! Rinse your brains and read smart books.

            Another Xperd showed up bully
            Tell your fables "bezamerikirdyk" to someone else.
            You already make your slippers laugh yourself - with your opuses, but at the censor they can believe you ... hi negative
            And you don't need to read books - but documents from archives, but this does not threaten you, you never came close to any of them ...
            1. KARAKURT21 Offline
              KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 23 August 2020 00: 01
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              Autosuggest, maybe it will help. Soon lend-lease handouts will again be in demand in Mukhoska wink
              1. 321 Offline
                321 (321) 23 August 2020 14: 57
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                Quote: KARAKURT21
                Autosuggest, maybe it will help. Soon lend-lease handouts will again be in demand in Mukhoska wink

                Your "forecasts" are of little interest to me - so "peshi ischo" (s), iksperd you, though not ours. bully
  • Cyril Offline
    Cyril (Kirill) 18 August 2020 04: 34
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    Well, have those who talk about the inactivation of the S-400 systems "eaten"?

    The Israeli pilot chuckled condescendingly and smashed another Syrian air defense.
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      Satellite (Satellite) 19 August 2020 13: 44
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      The Israeli pilot chuckled condescendingly and smashed another Syrian air defense.

      Just like in reality I imagined the face of a grinning villain ...))
      Would you, perhaps, try yourself as a director in Hollywood? There such scenes are the height of art, to raise the spirit of fat-assed "hamburger-eaters"))
      1. Cyril Offline
        Cyril (Kirill) 19 August 2020 17: 11
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        If your knowledge of American cinema is limited only to such scenes - well, well, your trouble :)
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          Satellite (Satellite) 19 August 2020 22: 07
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          If your knowledge of American cinema is limited only to such scenes - well, well, your trouble :)

          But one more talent is lost!) Maybe you should also write a scientific treatise: "On the benefits of knowing American cinema, when Israeli pilots use heroic facial expressions - when it's scary, and mastering the technique of smiling" facial expressions of a pooping baby ")
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    g1washntwn (George Washington) 18 August 2020 07: 09
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    The Turks most likely tested the glazing from the F-35 for a long time already, even before the Russian systems. I'm just interested to ask the Israeli "partners": Yours are still flying with lenses, disguising themselves as F-15s and civilian aircraft, or how? How do you answer yourself, stop worrying much about the American military-industrial complex, soon he will shove the last contracts for the "penguin" and this "secret" will become uninteresting even to Aunt Fima with the laundry.
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    Michael1950 (Michael) 18 August 2020 12: 55
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    Quote: g1washntwn
    I'm just interested to ask the Israeli "partners": yours are still flying with lenses, disguising themselves as F-15s and civilian aircraft, or how?

    The question is utterly stupid, why not ask yourself before asking: why the hell do that ?? Why would the F-35 disguise itself as the F-15, increasing its stealth by 1000 times, and then climb into the thick of the enemy's air defense with such an EPR ?! There are no such madmen and cannot be. And why disguise a stealth plane as a civilian plane? He will come from any direction, throw winged bombs and quietly go home unnoticed.

    How do you answer yourself, stop worrying much about the American military-industrial complex, soon he will shove the last contracts for the "penguin" and this "secret" will become uninteresting even to Aunt Fima with the laundry.

    Even if you give it not to Aunt Fima from the laundry, the F-35 aircraft, but give it to the Sukhoi Design Bureau, it will still not be able to reproduce it at the level of the original. After all, it was 40 years for Soviet and then Russian intelligence officers to illegally familiarize themselves with all American stealth, to "scratch" all the necessary technologies - but why couldn’t reproduce anything like this and close ?? Because the necessary technological chains are absent in modern Russia. And when (and if) they will appear is unknown.