Two transport aircraft at once: in Ukraine they showed that their aircraft industry is still alive


The journalists visited Antonov State Enterprise and showed that the aircraft industry in Ukraine is still alive, writes the Ukrainian edition of Defense Express.


In recent months, the activities of the Antonov State Enterprise have significantly intensified after the forced downtime caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Employees work multiple shifts to make up for lost time. In the workshops of the enterprise, work is now underway on two short-haul transport aircraft An-178 (development based on the An-158), with a carrying capacity of 18 tons.

The first is an experimental flight model (serial number 001), which is now being replaced by Russian-made parts with products from Western companies. The second is an aircraft for the Peruvian Interior Ministry (serial number 006), the assembly of which is in full swing. It no longer contains a single detail from Russia.

The first plane should leave earlier. Pass flight tests, receive a certificate, and the second car, for Peru, must have all the documents that will give it the right to operate

- said the head of the shop Vyacheslav Lavrinchuk.

As the head of the Antonov State Enterprise Alexander Los clarified, aircraft manufacturers have spent a significant amount of their own funds on complete import substitution.

We are talking about several hundred million dollars. Specifically for this one type of the An-178 aircraft. For other types of aircraft, such work (import substitution - ed.) Has not yet been carried out

- said the Elk.


The video shows that the An-178 is 40% ready for the Peruvian police. Wings are being installed. Stack assembly began in May 2020. Full import substitution of this side will cost about $ 21 million.

In July 2020, they began to disassemble the experimental An-178; now it cannot fly. The footage clearly shows that he is standing with the dismantled engines and the missing tail. Replaced hull elements are visible on its fuselage.
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  1. 123 Online
    123 (123) 15 August 2020 12: 00
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    Very entertaining video. It can be seen that they have forgotten how to assemble planes, however, how to disassemble them. winked They talk cheerfully and enthusiastically about import substitution, but this word only means replacement with components of their own production. According to various sources, the share of Russian components in the An-178 ranges from 40 to 53%. If someone heard about the start of their production in Ukraine, please share information. And then the citizens from Ukraine all boasted about their successes, but they didn't say a word about it, apparently they forgot ... repeat
    I believe that we have replaced Russian components with imported ones from Western manufacturers. This decision was reached 4 years ago.

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3088347

    Or is the USA and Canada no longer abroad for Ukraine?
  2. Valentine Offline
    Valentine (Valentin) 15 August 2020 12: 04
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    We will wait for them to produce hundreds of fighters and bombers. We chew snot, supply them with strategic raw materials, petroleum products, electricity, machine tools, etc., while they strengthen their army and teach their people to hate Russia.
    1. akarfoxhound Offline
      akarfoxhound 15 August 2020 20: 12
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      Apparently, you are not aware of the real state of affairs in the military-industrial complex of Ukraine (namely the real one, and not from the media), if you think that we will wait there for the serial production of fighters, etc.
      1. Valentine Offline
        Valentine (Valentin) 15 August 2020 20: 32
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        Let's wait, and how - Hitler restored the power of his army in 6 years, which simply did not exist then, and conquered all of Europe, and climbed into the USSR.
        1. akarfoxhound Offline
          akarfoxhound 15 August 2020 22: 28
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          A U-52 from the Savoy-Marchetti, converted into bombers and a Su-24 somewhere nearby in terms of technology? :)
        2. igor.igorev Offline
          igor.igorev (Igor) 16 August 2020 12: 33
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          Hitler lived at a different time and, for a start, crushed all of Europe under him. And Ukraine is owned by all and sundry, and no one there is going to revive the production of something. Even if someone invests and organizes something, the product will not have a sales market.
        3. Mikhail Svetlov Offline
          Mikhail Svetlov (Mikhail SEO) 17 August 2020 11: 11
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          We have been waiting for 30 years)) Something in any way))
    2. Mikhail Svetlov Offline
      Mikhail Svetlov (Mikhail SEO) 17 August 2020 11: 13
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      30 years fell apart, and then suddenly once - and immediately hundreds)) This is all death throes, Ukraine will never make planes.
  3. boriz Offline
    boriz (boriz) 15 August 2020 12: 37
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    Elk says the upgrade alone cost several hundred million dollars. How much will the Peruvian Interior Ministry cost this plane? Such a premonition that this will end in the same way as an attempt to supply tanks to Thailand and the modernization of the MiG 21 for Serbia. In this case, "Antonov" will be destroyed forever.
    Substitution of Russian elements, naturally, not Ukrainian ones. The video diplomatically says "for alternative" (time 1.43 on video). If they were Ukrainian, the video would be in the size of a full-length film, or even a TV series.
    And it is not entirely clear whether the import substitution cost $ 21 million, or several hundred million $, as Los says.
  4. boriz Offline
    boriz (boriz) 15 August 2020 13: 06
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    The price is generally wonders.

    https://ria.ru/20191218/1562510952.html

    The contract price is $ 65 million. What then hundreds of millions is Elk talking about?
    The post on the link provides the opinion of the deputy of Rada Dubinsky that the contract with Peru will not be fulfilled. How similar contracts with Kazakhstan, Egypt, Turkmenistan were not fulfilled.
    1. igor.igorev Offline
      igor.igorev (Igor) 16 August 2020 12: 35
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      He probably meant hundreds of millions in hryvnia.
  5. gorenina91 Online
    gorenina91 (Irina) 15 August 2020 14: 09
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    In July 2020, they began to disassemble the experimental An-178; now it cannot fly. The footage clearly shows that he is standing with dismantled engines and missing tail.

    But what has it to do with ... - "Will fly ... or will not fly; there is a substitution or no substitution ..." ...
    - The main thing is that they love all kinds of Ukraine ... - even in "beautiful clothes"; but even in rags ... - There is no difference ...
    - But Russia, hospitable, ready to sacrifice anything and please the whole world ... - Something no one likes ... - Here the whole world does not love ... Russia ...
    - And so Russia is always destined to grieve without love ... - well, they do not like Russia or Russians ... - That's all ...
    - And then ... - "planes ... for the police of Peru" ... - Yes, Ukraine will not supply these planes; well, it will disrupt deliveries ... - what ... - All the same, the Peruvians will forgive Ukraine, loving ... - and will continue to love ...
    And Russia, which, if in the same Peru suddenly there was a flood; or an earthquake ... - a dozen Ruslans with rescuers, doctors, builders, humanitarian aid, vaccines and equipment will immediately drive ... - this Russia ... - still no one will fall in love with ... - Moreover ... all these who "received" all these benefits from Russia ... - literally all ... - will simply support any sanctions and any intrigues against Russia ...
    - Such things ...
    - And then ... "Airplanes disassembled ... without components ... etc ..." ... -Yes, who needs it all ...
    - And Russia, where to get the "components" to be loved ???
    - All states have such "components"; but only Russia does not ... - Alas ... and ah ...
    1. Valentine Offline
      Valentine (Valentin) 15 August 2020 16: 28
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      Don't worry, Irina, Russia is not loved by those who were categorically ordered to do it from Washington .... After all, you remember those times, even before Judas Gorbachev, when he ordered our GSVG and ZGV to bring the USSR to the cold steppes in winter, even though we Our brothers in the Warsaw Pact did not idolize, sometimes they kicked up, but they were afraid and were tolerant, but when the "holy place", which is never empty, was freed up after us, it was then that the Yankees put the ardent Russophobes. In the United States, these are difficult times with their dark-skinned "relatives", and these are just flowers, and God forbid them to peacefully hold out until the presidential elections, well, and then there will be a massacre more abruptly than the Ukrainian one, and now everyone is looking at all this mess in the USA their sixes and satellites, and they say - and these Yankees are still teaching us how to live ...
      1. gorenina91 Online
        gorenina91 (Irina) 15 August 2020 17: 23
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        Russia is disliked by those who were categorically ordered to do this from Washington .... After all, you remember those times, even before Judas Gorbachev, when he ordered our GSVG and ZGV to bring the USSR to the cold steppes in winter, although our brothers in Warsaw Pact, sometimes they kicked up, but they were afraid and were tolerant

        - Ha ... - yes you look like ... a free listener of your own free reasoning ...
        - What else is Germany; what is the Warsaw Pact; who were taken out in winter to the cold steppes ... - Who cares ...
        - Today they are already undertaking to prove that the United States, Britain and France won the WWII ... - and Russia was simply out of business ... - And soon they will prove it ...
        - And you are all about some kind of Warsaw Pact; about Judas Gorbachev ... etc ...
        - Who, when at least in a bad dream could see that Russia and Ukraine would become fierce enemies; and tomorrow Belarus will also be added to this "alliance" ...
        - Why didn't you give me a plus ??? - Or is it your minus ???
        - This is how the whole parable about peoples who do not want to fight each other ... - after all, they are brothers ... - And when it comes to specific assessments, they begin to put minuses (or pluses) ... - and these are already official actions ... and when it comes to shooting ... - then they will shoot at each other ... - although they talked about brotherhood ...
        - So you talk a lot; but don't put pluses ...
        Once upon a time, "Judas Gorbachev" talked about ... about ... about equality and brotherhood; and then gave the Americans a plus; and Russia (USSR) - minus ... and drove our troops into the cold steppes ...
        - His reasoning hung in the air; but its disadvantages remained ... in reality ... and to this day they operate ... -Such ...- two big differences ...
        - Today our guarantor talks a lot about the need to improve the lives of Russians; and "puts pluses" ... - China; Turkey; Syria; Venezuela, etc. etc...
      2. igor.igorev Offline
        igor.igorev (Igor) 16 August 2020 12: 38
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        The reason for the rapid withdrawal of troops from the GSVG and ZGV was banal. The USSR was absolutely bankrupt and there was simply no currency to support two armies. After all, the salaries of even conscripts began to be paid in foreign currency. So they took them out more quickly in order to delay the beginning of the end of the collapse of the USSR.
    2. bear040 Offline
      bear040 15 August 2020 17: 12
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      Do not confuse a walking girl who is used by the whole village, but no one will marry her, with love for a decent lady who is married. Ukraine is the first, not the second, and I don't need such love for my Russian Federation. Although, you will not understand this ...
      1. gorenina91 Online
        gorenina91 (Irina) 15 August 2020 18: 24
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        Do not confuse a walking girl who is used by the whole village, but no one will marry her, with love for a decent lady who is married. Ukraine is the first, not the second, and I don't need such love for my Russian Federation. Although, you will not understand this ...

        When the world community - all without exception (even native Belarus, which does not want to recognize Crimea as Russian)) ... - specifically all ... - consider one state, in which there is a village, an outcast; and in this village, in turn, everyone "uses" ... mmmm ... a lady of reduced social responsibility (and for this the whole village considers her to be outcast); then for the entire world community there is no difference ... - who in this village is classified as a "high class", and who is classified as a pariah ... -So, who is there in this state of "high flight" and who is "low "... - for the world community there is no difference ... - This state, as it was in the category of outcasts ... - so it remains in this category ...
        1. bear040 Offline
          bear040 15 August 2020 19: 58
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          Nobody counts anything. All the countries of the former USSR are sick with Russophobia, and the rest are either afraid of the United States, or they give it to them, or they do not care about it all. In fact, Ukraine is among the outcasts, which has spoiled relations with all its neighbors with its Banderaism. Or do you think that Poland likes Bandera? The fact that for Poland the Russian Federation is a competitor, whom the Poles do not like, does not mean that they are in love with Mazepovites. Using Ukraine as cannon fodder and the six against the Russian Federation and loving it are two different things.
        2. _AMUHb_ Offline
          _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 15 August 2020 20: 23
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          What is their love to you? They like to try to put us in the "doggie style", but the "trouble", did not work yet, and then? ... and then what? And whether each individual will have a later, he is not reported ...
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            gorenina91 (Irina) 16 August 2020 03: 13
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            What is their love to you? They like to try to put us in the "doggie style", but the "problem", did not work yet, and then?

            - Questions for me, or what ??? - And what is this ... - for "you"? - Personally, I'm asking you ... - What are you ... - are not trained in the elementary ???
            - In "doggy style"; and in any "other style" our state is ready to put itself (and has put it for a long time) and absolutely voluntarily ... - At least in front of China; even before Turkey; even before the EU ...
            - Russia is like a dead addict ... - constantly "begging for a dose" ... - import loans ... - and has already convinced a whole generation of Russian youth that without "import loans" Russia simply cannot survive ...
            - Moreover ... - Russia is everywhere poking around with its ... - gas and oil and directly begs the whole world to purchase them from her (at least for any price) ... - for this Russia is ready to build gas pipelines even to the moon ... - And there at least "the grass does not grow" ...
            - And the fact that Russia is ready to voluntarily adopt the "doggy style" and provide all the "other services" ... - it just became a permanent and stable status quo for Russia ... it's not even worth talking about it. .. - it's obvious...
            - This is where a group of "local heroes" gave me some cons ... - and calmly plays in "paper airplanes" ... - The most worthy occupation for the adult population of Russia ... - Airplanes fly away; fly under tables; under different furniture ... -and little people climb to get them and at the same time they do not take any poses ... - But it does not matter to little people ... - It does not matter to them how they look at the same time; and how they will be perceived; and who they will be considered; and how they will be treated ...
            - It, of course ... everyone plays what he likes best ... is his right ... But then there is nothing to blame on the mirror; if.......
            1. _AMUHb_ Offline
              _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 16 August 2020 15: 31
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              .. means the phrase: "like you", and not specifically to your personality.
              Westerners have long noticed that this interest in "oneself beloved" on the Russian "subtle" soul can be played ... suffice it to recall Bykov in 90 with his transmission, where some creature "appreciated" everything here. As for "you", find at least one reference to "you" in the scriptures for interest, of course, academic.
  6. bear040 Offline
    bear040 15 August 2020 17: 23
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    Well, what's the catch ?! The first plane, as far as I understand, was assembled before the break with the Russian Federation, and whether the second will be assembled is still a big question. Ukraine purchased avionics and propellers from Russia. Okay, this machine does not need propellers, but avionics is needed in any way, but it must be purchased either in the Russian Federation or in the West, the Bandera do not have their own. The Russian Federation sold avionics at least in bulk, even in piece sets, in the West it is sold only in bulk, it will be very difficult and expensive to buy one set, although it is possible that they will buy used equipment somewhere, like the Poles and start screaming about overmogging. The ability to manufacture high-quality engines for Motor Sich is also questionable, since with the joint production of the An-148 with the Russian Federation, the scrap of spare parts from Ukraine reached 60% or more.
  7. zapolyarniy_kazakmail.ru (Natalia Dulina) 15 August 2020 21: 41
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    And what the hell is “import substitution? if the equipment is already standing, but it must be removed and replaced! Do they really take people for idiots?
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    King3214 (Sergius) 16 August 2020 10: 32
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    The last plane was made in Ukraine in 2015. Five years ago. I have a question - the workers who made the airplanes, they sat for 5 years and in a patriotic frenzy, at their own expense, waited for Ukraine to rise from its knees?
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    igor.igorev (Igor) 16 August 2020 12: 31
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    Since when were Russian engines installed on the An-178? There were Ukrainians in life. So they changed them to PW suspension. This inevitably increased the cost of the aircraft. As, in fact, the replacement of Russian components with Western counterparts. Money was collected from all over Ukraine to complete the construction of an aircraft for Peru. This is where it all ends. What orders is Elk broadcasting there?
  10. Working with documents (nick efr) 17 August 2020 08: 29
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    All these dances will be profitable if at least 30 aircraft are ordered 5 years in advance. Das ist fantastish !!!
  11. Mikhail Svetlov Offline
    Mikhail Svetlov (Mikhail SEO) 17 August 2020 11: 23
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    Yes, cheap Russian spare parts can be replaced with expensive European ones, but then the cost of the aircraft will be comparable to the cost of a space rocket. What kind of plane in the world will buy a simple 3-way plane? There are no fools. And what, 2 planes in 5 years will save Antonov?)) As for the vigorous activity of production - I doubt it is rather a violent imitation of activity with the last hope of attracting investment.
  12. senima56 Offline
    senima56 (Nikolai) 17 August 2020 14: 49
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    And it was our media that "buried" the Ukrainian aviation industry! fool But it turned out that "the patient is more likely alive than dead!" hi