"And everyone is silent": Ukraine is outraged by Russia's actions in the Black Sea to disrupt NATO exercises

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The Black Sea water area is under total control of Russia. At the same time, the United States cannot do anything about it. This is the conclusion reached by experts at the international online round table on the topic: "Challenges and threats of the Black Sea region."

During the discussion, Ukrainian "social activists" were outraged by the "insidious" actions of Moscow. For example, in the opinion of Mikhail Gonchar, head of the NGO Center for Global Studies Strategy XXI, editor-in-chief of the Black Sea Security magazine, having built the Turkish Stream, Russia gained control over the underwater space by installing monitoring systems on the gas pipeline.



The same will happen in the Baltic, if Russia completes the construction of the Nord Stream 2. This will create an advantage over NATO. This is another argument in favor of the US position on the destruction of this project.

- Potter is sure.

Gonchar recalled that the Russians pushed the ships that arrived for the annual Sea breeze exercise from the exclusive sea zone near Crimea, which Ukraine considers its own.

At the same time, an expert on Crimea, head of the non-profit organization Maidan of Foreign Affairs, editor-in-chief of BlackSeaNews and coordinator of the Marine Energy Platform, Andrei Klimenko, called what happened during the exercise "an unprecedented event."

This situation was on July 21-22. Since then, everyone has been silent and there has been no reaction from either the US Sixth Fleet or the NATO command. Last year, they (the Russians - ed.) Slightly outstripped the Sea breeze and blocked the area that was planned for the exercises. The organizers of the maneuvers were forced to close off other areas so that they would not overlap. This year, Russia has created an overlapping situation for the first time. And everyone was silent

- pointed out Klimenko.

After that, Klimenko offered to appeal to the United States and the Alliance with a request to cover Ukraine on their own until Kiev acquires its own air force, navy and "missile shield." The expert wants their ships to patrol the Black Sea daily.


It should be noted that this event was held on the Internet site "Ukrinform" within the framework of the project "Assistance to security in the Black Sea region through greater involvement of non-governmental players." The money for it is allocated by the Black Sea Trust Fund from Romania, which itself is a project of the German Marshall Fund (USA), and is "mastered" by grant-eaters from the Ukrainian NGO "Center for Global Studies" Strategy XXI ", involving colleagues.
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  1. -5
    4 August 2020 22: 33
    Are all the "news" like that?
  2. +10
    4 August 2020 23: 56
    And everyone is terribly interested in the opinion of Gonchar and Klimenko. And also Ukraine in general.
  3. +12
    5 August 2020 01: 21
    Whether you are by birth Romanian, Turkish, Bulgarian, Moldovan, American, EU citizen ... if you studied History in the 17-20 century.
    From the moment Russia entered the waters of the Black Sea - the Black Sea Water area has always been a shooting range for Russia - the Black Sea Fleet .. Something who will sink, fail, burn, remember ... - there is in every drop of water the Aura of naval commanders of admirals and sailors of Russia ...
  4. +4
    5 August 2020 02: 43
    Well, of course ... a crowd of thugs climbed into the courtyard of the owner ... got snot ... rightly so.
  5. +6
    5 August 2020 06: 00
    Maidan of Foreign Affairs? Maidan of the brain.
  6. +3
    5 August 2020 11: 49
    And what, the ukrobanders have not yet understood that the goose is not a pig's comrade? The overseas goose already has a pig, tying a cookie in front of its face. Include her in your teams? In the name of what? Only not just a blockhead, but a blockhead in a cube will not understand what threatens them if something happens. The Turks have already received a shock in helping against Russia, and an offer to sort it out themselves (when they shot down our Su-24), but Turkey is a NATO member.
  7. +5
    5 August 2020 13: 06
    The Russian sea will remain Russian forever.
    1. -4
      5 August 2020 19: 56
      Is it Russian? Or is it Russian everything, where you managed to go for yourself? Firstly, the article itself is fake, and secondly, proceeding from the first, Ukraine does not express any indignation, and thirdly, the Black Sea coastline with a length of about 2500 km is not "Russian" at all. In addition, the size of the navies of the NATO countries is much larger than the Russian Black Sea Fleet. And the exit from this sea is controlled by the NATO country. And what is behind this exit, too. laughing
      1. +3
        5 August 2020 22: 43
        Russian - this sea was called back in the 10th century! So you can only tear your Turkish trousers off by force, but you won't change that! And if I had studied, I would have known that in 1877 Russia and the fleet did not have, only boats, and then she drove the Turkish fleet into the ports, from where he did not show his nose!
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      2. +1
        6 August 2020 22: 37
        Did you see "Mowgli"? Here Ukraine is the jackal Tabaki.
  8. -2
    5 August 2020 22: 48
    Quote: zapolyarniy_kazakmail.ru
    Russian - this sea was called back in the 10th century! So you can only tear your Turkish trousers off by force, but you won't change that! and if he had studied, he knew that in 1877 Russia and the fleet did not have it, only boats and then she drove the Turkish fleet into the ports, from where he did not even show his nose!

    For those who are from the Russian Federation - the word "Russia" is a translation of the name of Russia from the ancient Greek language, which was used under the Byzantine emperor Constantine Porphyrogenitus. As a name for the country, it was proposed by Peter 1 already on November 2, 1721 according to modern chronology. At that time, RI had no access to the Black Sea.
    1. +2
      6 August 2020 00: 37
      Read about the exit to the Black, when there were the Azov campaigns of Peter I and what we received under the peace treaty, plus you can recall the campaign of the clerk Rzhevsky in 1556. The Rus kingdom was proclaimed in 1547 by Ivan IV, who became the first Russian tsar, but what was there one letter, nothing more than a change in the rules of the Russian language.
      Russ Greek translation pf, why didn't you say that this is just one of the theories. With the same success, Russia could arise from the Scandinavians, Finns, Iranians, Slavs. For example, I believe that the word Rus is Scandinavian, after all, Rurik was a Scandinavian, so who knows, what he called us. The Greeks called our tribes Rus a hundred years before the birth of Constantine.
    2. 0
      6 August 2020 07: 56
      For those who are from Ukraine: "Ukraine" - the outskirts of the translation from Polish (Russian, Old Russian)
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  9. -2
    5 August 2020 22: 54
    Quote: sludge
    Maidan of Foreign Affairs? Maidan of the brain.

    No, the phenomenon of imperial idiocy.
    1. +2
      6 August 2020 00: 44
      the word "Russia" ... as a name for the country was proposed by Peter 1 already on November 2, 1721 according to modern chronology.

      An excellent student of preparation is seen a mile away ...

      I quote the beginning of the title of Tsar Theodore Ioannovich (1584):

      By God's grace, Sovereign Tsar and Grand Duke Fyodor Ivanovich of All Russia ...
      1. -1
        6 August 2020 11: 35
        And in what language is it written there? belay Doesn't they mention anything about the USSR? laughing
        1. +1
          6 August 2020 13: 11
          Whatever the Ukrainians argue about, it always ends with a man's playing on the piano ...
          The Kremlin museum contains a marble gate slab of the Spasskaya tower containing the title of John Vasilyevich from 1494, made in Latin ...
          The text is as follows:

          Ioannes [,] Vasilii [filius,] Dei gratia magnvs dvx Volodimeriæ [,] Moscoviæ [,] Novogardiæ [,] Tiferiæ [,] Plescoviæ [,] Veticiæ [,] Ongariæ [,] Permiie [,] Bvolgartiviæ et alias to ue], Raxiæ d [omi] nvs [,] an [n] o 30 imperii svi has tvrres co [n] dere f [ecit] et statvit Petrvs Antonivs Solarivs Mediolanensis an [n] on [ativit] a [tis] D [omi] ni 1491 K [alendis] M [artiis] i [ussit] p [onere].

          Translation:

          John Vasilyevich, by the grace of God, the Grand Duke of Vladimir, Moscow, Novgorod, Tver, Pskov, Vyatka, Yugorsk, Perm, Bulgar and other lands, and the sovereign of all Russia, in the 30th year of his reign, ordered to build these towers, and [them] built Milanese Peter Anthony Solari, in 1491 from the incarnation of the Lord in the March calendars ordered to lay.
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          2. 0
            6 August 2020 13: 52
            On the inside of the arch was the same slab in Russian ...
            Or, for example, the title of another Ivan Vasilievich - the Terrible ...
            The inscription was made in 1561 on 63 copper plates and until 1753 was located on the frieze of the Middle Gold Chamber; now these plates are also exhibited in the Kremlin museum.
            It read as follows:

            In the summer of 7069 August, by the order of the pious and Christ-loving Tsar and Grand Duke John Vasilyevich of All Russia, Vladimersky, Moscow, Nougorodsky, Tsar of Kazan, and Tsar of Astrakhan, Sovereign of Pskov and Grand Duke of Tver, Yugorsk, Perm, Vyatsky, Bulgarian and other sovereigns city ​​of St. George's and others, with his noble children Tsarevich Ivan and Tsarevich Theodore Ioannovich of All Russia autocrat.
            1. -2
              6 August 2020 15: 59
              Re - you truly believe in your own fairy tales good
          3. -2
            6 August 2020 15: 55
            Yes, yes - just like in "Ivan Vasilyevich Changes His Profession". fellow
            1. +1
              6 August 2020 20: 26
              Whatever you do with the dillies, but they stubbornly play in the 95th quarter ...
              Anyone visiting the Moscow Kremlin can take a look at the gilded meter letters still adorning the pommel of the Ivan the Great Bell Tower, which was added during the reign of Boris Godunov, who ordered to leave the naming of his title, which sounds like this:

              By the will of the Holy Trinity, by the command of the Great Sovereign Tsar and Grand Duke Boris Fedorovich of All Russia, the autocrat and the son of his faithful great sovereign, Prince Fyodor Borisovich of All Russia, this temple was completed and gilded in the second summer of their state.

              But, of course, for those who have undergone dill preparation, it is impossible to understand this text, therefore they will continue to persistently talk about the change in the form of government of the state from "Russian kingdom" to "Russian EMPIRE" under Peter Alekseevich in 1721 as "about the appearance of the word" Russia " in the country name "...)))
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  10. ozv
    +1
    6 August 2020 20: 49
    And America will not mind if we jointly conduct exercises with Cuba in the Caribbean?
    1. -1
      6 August 2020 22: 07
      Spend with Cuba.
  11. +1
    6 August 2020 22: 44
    Quote: Oleg Shlyapin
    Quote: zapolyarniy_kazakmail.ru
    Russian - this sea was called back in the 10th century! So you can only tear your Turkish trousers off by force, but you won't change that! And if I had studied, I would have known that in 1877 Russia and the fleet did not have, only boats, and then she drove the Turkish fleet into the ports, from where he did not show his nose!

    For those who are from the Russian Federation - the word "Russia" is a translation of the name of Russia from the ancient Greek language, which was used under the Byzantine emperor Constantine Porphyrogenitus. As a name for the country, it was proposed by Peter 1 already on November 2, 1721 according to modern chronology. At that time, RI had no access to the Black Sea.

    Check out at least the writing of Sigismund von Herberstein from 1549 - Of the sovereigns who now own Russia, the main one is the Grand Duke of Moscow, who has most of it under his rule; the second is the Grand Duke of Lithuania, the third is the King of Poland, who now rules both Poland and Lithuania.
    1. 0
      7 August 2020 09: 33
      I am not interested in your fairy tales of the Moksha bogs. laughing
      1. +1
        7 August 2020 12: 44
        That's right, that's right!

        Another "fairy tale from the Moksha bogs"
        (from a letter from Ivan the Terrible to the Swedish king Johan):

        Divine (...) beings (...) by the grace and power and desire of the skiff-holder of the Russian kingdom, the great sovereign, tsar and Grand Duke Ivan Vasilyevich of all Russia (...) honest our degree of majesty, our word is to Yagan, the king of Sveisky and Gotzky and Vendian ....
        It is written in our patrimony of the Livonian lands of the city of Paida, lѣta 7081, the month of January at 6, indictment 1, our domination 40, and our kingdom of Russia 26 ...

        Or, for example, such a "fairy tale" (from the personal message of Ivan the Terrible to a Protestant preacher from the Czech Republic, Jan Rokyta, who was at the Polish king's embassy and at a royal reception who gave a speech in defense of Protestantism and against Orthodoxy):

        And in the future you would not announce this teaching of yours in our country. And about that of our Lord Jesus Christ we dutifully pray, all the Savior, so that we, the Russian family, may be saved from the darkness of your nevuria. Glory is bought to the Father with his everlasting Son and the Holy Spirit, now and ever and ever. Amen.
  12. 0
    7 August 2020 10: 00
    ..to appeal to the United States and the Alliance with a request to cover Ukraine on their own until Kiev acquires its own air force, navy and “missile shield”.

    Well, just like children! When leaving the USSR, Ukraine had very large "own" Navy, Navy and missile shield. We would build and develop further - no one interfered, but on the contrary - they completely helped. And in the end? But everyone wasted it .... And now, with a killed economy, neglected education and total corruption, how are they going to "acquire"? Ahhh, yeah! Ask!
    1. -1
      7 August 2020 19: 58
      1. Small arms

      Under the license of Israel, Ukrainian-made "Fort"

      https://yandex.ua/video/preview/?filmId=2944406555106296181&text

      US license Ukrainian machine WAC-47

      https://yandex.ua/video/preview/?filmId=9564662301159076795&text

      Automatic machine "Kid", Ukraine

      https://yandex.ua/video/preview/?filmId=10242483666669700167&text=

      Small arms Rifles "Zbroyar", Ukraine

      https://yandex.ua/video/preview/?filmId=3771172819784530571&text=
      https://yandex.ua/video/preview/?

      2. Construction of boats

      https://yandex.ua/video/preview/?filmId=18016857680551924578&text

      3. Air Force

      Purchase of American 108 F-15s worth $ 12 billion in 2021-2030
      https://yandex.ua/video/preview?wiz_type=vital&filmId=7468672600821846371&text
    2. -1
      7 August 2020 20: 09
      OTRK "Thunder-2"

      https://yandex.ua/video/preview/?filmId=4604877330751545555&text=%

      CR "Neptune"



      MLRS "Alder"





      MLRS "Typhoon-1"



      Repairs. modernization and modernization of existing helicopters



      And planes

    3. -1
      7 August 2020 21: 20
      Boats "Centaur"



      Boats "Gyurza-M"

    4. -1
      7 August 2020 22: 51
      1. What Ukraine got from the USSR is 30 years old and older.
      2. Many types of military production, as well as mechanical engineering in general, were built in the Ukrainian SSR through intersectoral cooperation, mainly with the RSFSR, and did not have closed cycles.
      3. Ukraine signed the Budapest Memorandum, under the guarantees of national security and territorial integrity, and did not develop many types of military production.
      4. Currently, new types of production are being created based on the procurement of new production equipment.
      5. The production of weapons and military equipment by our own forces is optimized based on our own capabilities and pressing tasks.

      The military budget of Ukraine in recent years has amounted to $ 8-10 billion. At the same time, Ukraine received military assistance from the United States in the amount of about $ 5 million over 700 years. In 2020, the amount of military assistance from the United States is $ 250 million, and for 2021 it is planned in the amount of $ 300 million.

      Of the military budget, Ukraine spends about 10% on the purchase of foreign weapons and military equipment from other countries.

      Arms development in Ukraine:
      1. Missile weapons
      A) Development and production of anti-tank missiles, guided missiles and - "Stugna-P" "Skif", etc., aviation unguided missiles. A promising development is the Molniya-1 supersonic anti-ship aircraft missile, the modernization of the R-27 and R-29 missiles.
      B) Development of MLRS "Typhoon-1" (up to 40 km), "Alder" (up to 70 km) "Alder-R" (up to 90 km), "Alder-M" (up to 120 km), "Alder-M1" And "Alder-M2" - 140,160 and 200 km, depending on the configuration. The promising systems "Verba" and "Berest" (up to 40 km), "Typhoon-2" (up to 65 km), "Typhoon-4" up to 280 km.
      C) Development of cruise missiles "Neptune" (up to 280 km), OTRK "Thunder-2" with a range of 280, 500 and 750 km, depending on the configuration. Promising developments are the Sapsan medium-range ballistic missile (1200-1500 km), the Korshun-2 operational-tactical cruise missile (up to 480 km), and a promising medium-range combined cruise missile (name not disclosed). Modernization of OTRK "Tochka" and "Tochka-U" - 430 units.
      D) Development of air defense systems based on R-27, Alder-M and Dnepr-1 missiles - 2 missiles will be ready for testing in 2021.
      E) Purchased from the USA - anti-tank grenade launchers for RPG-7 shots, ATGM "Jewelin", it is planned to purchase anti-ship missiles "Griffith" (late 2020 and beyond).
      E) Repair and modernization of air defense systems "Osa", "Cube". S-125 "Pechora" Soviet-made S-300 - only about 1000 missiles of all types.
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  13. -1
    7 August 2020 22: 54
    Quote: antibi0tikk
    ..to appeal to the United States and the Alliance with a request to cover Ukraine on their own until Kiev acquires its own air force, navy and “missile shield”.

    Well, just like children! When leaving the USSR, Ukraine had very large "own" Navy, Navy and missile shield. We would build and develop further - no one interfered, but on the contrary - they completely helped. And in the end? But everyone wasted it .... And now, with a killed economy, neglected education and total corruption, how are they going to "acquire"? Ahhh, yeah! Ask!

    1. What Ukraine inherited from the USSR is 30 and older.
    2. Many types of military production, as well as mechanical engineering in general, were built in the Ukrainian SSR through intersectoral cooperation, mainly with the RSFSR, and did not have closed cycles.
    3. Ukraine signed the Budapest Memorandum, under the guarantees of national security and territorial integrity, and did not develop many types of military production.
    4. Currently, new types of production are being created based on the procurement of new production equipment.
    5. The production of weapons and military equipment by our own forces is optimized based on our own capabilities and pressing tasks.

    The military budget of Ukraine in recent years has amounted to $ 8-10 billion. At the same time, Ukraine received military assistance from the United States in the amount of about $ 5 million over 700 years. In 2020, the amount of military aid from the United States is $ 250 million, and for 2021 it is planned in the amount of $ 300 million.

    Of the military budget, Ukraine spends about 10% on the purchase of foreign weapons and military equipment from other countries.

    Arms development in Ukraine:
    1. Missile weapons
    A) Development and production of anti-tank missiles, guided missiles and - "Stugna-P" "Skif", etc., aviation unguided missiles. A promising development is the Molniya-1 supersonic anti-ship aircraft missile, the modernization of the R-27 and R-29 missiles.
    B) Development of MLRS "Typhoon-1" (up to 40 km), "Alder" (up to 70 km) "Alder-R" (up to 90 km), "Alder-M" (up to 120 km), "Alder-M1" And "Alder-M2" - 140,160 and 200 km, depending on the configuration. The promising systems "Verba" and "Berest" (up to 40 km), "Typhoon-2" (up to 65 km), "Typhoon-4" up to 280 km.
    C) Development of cruise missiles "Neptune" (up to 280 km), OTRK "Thunder-2" with a range of 280, 500 and 750 km, depending on the configuration. Promising developments are the Sapsan medium-range ballistic missile (1200-1500 km), the Korshun-2 operational-tactical cruise missile (up to 480 km), and a promising medium-range combined cruise missile (name not disclosed). Modernization of OTRK "Tochka" and "Tochka-U" - 430 units.
    D) Development of air defense systems based on R-27, Alder-M and Dnepr-1 missiles - 2 missiles will be ready for testing in 2021.
    E) Purchased from the USA - anti-tank grenade launchers for RPG-7 shots, ATGM "Jewelin", it is planned to purchase anti-ship missiles "Griffith" (late 2020 and beyond).
    E) Repair and modernization of air defense systems "Osa", "Cube". S-125 "Pechora" Soviet-made S-300 - only about 1000 missiles of all types.

    2. Air Force
    A) Repair, modernization and remotorization of Soviet-made aircraft Su-24, Su-25, Su-27, MiG-29, L-39. An-26, Il-76 - a total of 286 aircraft of all types.
    B) Repair, modernization and remotorization of Soviet-made helicopters Mi-2, Mi-8, Mi-24 - about 70 units of all types.
    C) Purchase of various types of helicopters produced by Airbus Industry - 48 units were purchased and the purchase of another 80 units is planned.
    D) The issue of purchasing 2022 new American F-2030 fighters of the latest modification in the amount of about 108 billion US dollars in the period 15-12 is being considered.
    E) Development of light combat patrol and auxiliary helicopters based on Ukrainian helicopters MSB-2 "Nadezhda" and MSB-Otaman.

    3. Navy
    A) Construction of boats "Gyurza-M" and "Kentarv".
    B) Issue under a French license of OCEA boats
    C) Purchase from the United States of 12 new boats "Mark-6" ($ 650) and 20 new boats of the French production OSEA ($ 150 million). The contract with the United States includes the purchase of modern artillery and missile weapons for 28 boats.
    D) Receiving 4 new Munk-6 boats and 6 old Island boats as military assistance from the United States. which will be armed with American artillery systems and anti-ship missiles.
    E) Deployment of 3 battalions of Neptune anti-ship missiles with subsequent doubling of missile systems.

    4. Tanks, armored personnel carriers and military vehicles
    A) Repair, modernization and remotorization of Soviet tanks T-64, T-72, T-80. There is a project for the T-55 - the first prototype has already been created.
    B) Repair, modernization and remotorization of Soviet armored personnel carriers of the BTR-2 type. BTR-80, etc.
    C) Production of BTR-3 and BTR-4 of Ukrainian design
    D) Production of new military vehicles of Ukrainian design based on the KrAZ, Kozak and Bogdan-Motors.
    E) Receipt of Humvee vehicles from the United States as military aid and Saxon vehicles from the UK
    E) Development of a new one is underway. promising BMP

    5. Small arms and artillery.
    A) The production of a line of small arms - pistols under the license of Israel and the United States - has been mastered. pistols, automatic weapons. automatic rifles, including sniper rifles. and light machine guns,
    B) Developed own models of weapons in such classes as pistols, machine guns, sniper rifles. including large-caliber ones.
    C) Received as assistance from the USA - large-caliber sniper rifles, Canada - conventional-caliber sniper rifles, Lithuania - production of PM pistols and Soviet-made cartridges
    D) Sniper rifles and submachine guns purchased from the USA and Germany
    E) A phased replacement of Soviet small arms in the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Ukrainian and foreign weapons is being carried out.
    E) Mastered the production of barrels for some types of mortars and guns. including the NATO standard.