Who is behind the provocation with Wagner PMC in Minsk: versions of what happened


The pre-election detention on the territory of Belarus of more than three dozen male Russians is more like political a provocation, since in Minsk they were immediately called "the Wagner PMC militants", gave rise to several versions of what happened in the Russian expert community.


Deputy Dean of the Faculty of World economics and world politics at the Higher School of Economics Andrei Suzdaltsev said EADailythat there can be no Wagner PMC in Belarus in principle.

An absolute lie, because no Wagner PMC can be there. Probably, these are representatives of the special services of Belarus, who pretend to be "Wagnerites". If PMC Wagner was detained, documents and persons would be shown so that these people could be identified. It looks more like an anecdote. What are 32 PMC mercenaries? They can put a whole brigade, they could not have taken them so easily, and even without weapons.

- Suzdaltsev is sure.

I give all 200% that this is an absolute provocation of Lukashenka in order to increase the intensity of passions before the elections, to demonstrate that he is under external pressure and is fighting for the country's sovereignty. Recently, at a meeting with the military, he talked about mercenaries, about murderers, and suddenly the PMC Wagner immediately appeared. It seems that in Minsk all of us are considered idiots. Each election is an attempt, then something else. This is Lukashenka's traditional entertainment before the elections. But the scale needs to be increased. So PMC Wagner appeared

- added Suzdaltsev.

In turn, journalist Yuriy Kotenok wrote in his blog that the detention of Russians may not be Lukashenka's initiative, since this is not about PMC Wagner, but about PMC MAR. The Russians had to fly from Minsk to Turkey in order to travel from there to Tripoli (Libya). They contracted to guard the Zuvara oil port, which is under the control of the PNS Faiz Saraj, i.e. become an opponent of Wagner's PMC, which supports Khalifa Haftar's LNA.

As nonsense, but, I'm embarrassed to ask, if they went to fight for Saraj (i.e. against Haftar), maybe they thus made it clear that this should not be done?

- suggested another journalist Alexander Kots.

Minsk has already informed that a criminal case has been initiated on the preparation of a terrorist attack. And earlier сообщалосьhow and why the detained Russians could end up in Belarus.
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  1. King3214 Offline
    King3214 (Sergius) 30 July 2020 11: 31
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    It doesn't matter who flew where. It is important that Old Man began to throw "big logs" into the "fire of Belarusian Russophobia."
    (The same fire that he carefully lit and kept a flame in it all the years of his reign).
    1. Valery Mayorov Offline
      Valery Mayorov (Valery Mayorov) 3 August 2020 08: 09
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      You know, I am always amazed at what authors and what commentators. They do not know the laws, but there too!
      Request a decree from Prime Minister Mishustin during a pandemic on the conditions of a pass from Russia for workers or those in transit.
      There should be three documents.
      1. Employment agreement.
      2. Business trip from the private security company mar. And the permission of the Belarusian side. And since this does not exist! You are showing your illiteracy. Or, as A. Raikin said - stupidity!
  2. Binder Offline
    Binder (Miron) 30 July 2020 11: 38
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    What are 32 PMC mercenaries? They can put a whole brigade, they could not have taken them so easily, and even without weapons

    In my opinion, a somewhat overestimated assessment of the fighting qualities of the mercenaries of Russian PMCs, so far they have not shown themselves to be super-professionals of military affairs anywhere ...
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 30 July 2020 11: 50
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      In my opinion, a somewhat overestimated assessment of the fighting qualities of the mercenaries of Russian PMCs, so far they have not shown themselves to be super-professionals of military affairs anywhere ...

      I'll tell you more, this applies not only to Russian PMCs, as an example, here recently "tourists" in Venezuela were rafting on boats.
      How they should have shown themselves in Minsk is not clear. request People, quietly waiting in the departure room, were the local special forces to gnaw their teeth?
      As for the "super-professionals", we judge this by the articles on the Internet.
      1. Valery Mayorov Offline
        Valery Mayorov (Valery Mayorov) 3 August 2020 08: 10
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        Apart from condoms and money with black linen, they had no money! Don't be stupid, sir! You live in rule-of-law states!
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 3 August 2020 13: 49
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          Apart from condoms and money with black linen, they had no money!
          Don't be stupid, sir! You live in rule-of-law states!

          Don't be stupid? belay Are you generally adequate?
          The people had all the necessary documents, including a work permit on the territory of the Republic of Belarus. They were checked at the border. Belarusian border guards don't know what documents are required for entry? Even the corona-psychotic chairman, who accuses them of all mortal sins, calls them military personnel, even he does not accuse them of lack of documents.



          I would like to answer with your own words. yes

          You are showing your illiteracy. Or as A. Raikin said - stupidity!

          And add. Have sunk negative which, however, is not surprising if the president, who proudly wears general's shoulder straps at parades, does not understand the difference between soldiers and guards. What to expect from his faithful followers. fool
    2. gorenina91 Offline
      gorenina91 (Irina) 30 July 2020 16: 17
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      In my opinion, a somewhat overestimated assessment of the fighting qualities of the mercenaries of Russian PMCs, so far they have not shown themselves to be super-professionals of military affairs anywhere ...

      - Yes ... personally, I've already written a lot about these "unfortunate losers" ... - Maybe it's even good for them that they were slowed down in Belarus; maybe ... - you look and ... and they won't go anywhere (to hot countries) ... - maybe even so ... - they will be more complete ...
      1. Binder Offline
        Binder (Miron) 30 July 2020 16: 37
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        Quote: gorenina91
        maybe even so ... - they will be more whole ...

        These guys will be alive, even, perhaps, healthy - the Belarusian prison is not the best place in the world, but there are much more chances to survive in it than in the Libyan sands. However, they will be replaced by other Russians who, in an effort to make money on blood, dare to take the risk ...
        1. gorenina91 Offline
          gorenina91 (Irina) 30 July 2020 18: 04
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          These guys will be alive, even, perhaps, healthy

          - My plus ...
      2. Valery Mayorov Offline
        Valery Mayorov (Valery Mayorov) 3 August 2020 08: 11
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        Right. They marry Belarusian women and there is enough work for everyone!
  3. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 30 July 2020 11: 41
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    Where is the specific reliable information? If PMCs traveled through Turkey to Haftar's opponents, Lukashenka helped the "musicians" from Wagner. Maybe even at the request from Moscow. But why do the Turks need Russian guards, do they have enough of their own?
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 July 2020 12: 08
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    Uh ...
    The deputy dean of the Higher School of Economics is now also an iksperd ?? By PMCs (an organization officially banned in Russia) ???
    Journalists have guessed / suggested at least something specific about the members of PMCs officially banned in Russia ...
    1. Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 30 July 2020 12: 39
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      There is Putin's decree on special operations .... prohibited, not prohibited, were or were not, will remain at the level of rumors .. and the dull ones will clean up social networks. None of the "vacationers" anymore pose with weapons in photographs from the LPR. And judging by the citizenship of the group and the final goal of the route, Lukashenka dirtied both chairs on which he is sitting.
      1. Valery Mayorov Offline
        Valery Mayorov (Valery Mayorov) 3 August 2020 08: 14
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        What does Putin and the alleged PMC have to do with it? This is not a political issue! The media trumpets whatever! That's why they are the media! You must first be human! Defense and litigation with violation of rights are in the competence of those bodies that receive a salary for this. Do not drive the blizzard.
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  7. margo Offline
    margo (margo) 30 July 2020 14: 49
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    no PMC Wagner can be there

    - they also said about Ukraine, Syria, Venezuela, and now "they are not there" have surfaced in Minsk. Lukashenka is far from being a stupid person and everything is in order with his security. I have a different question, now the Minsk court will solder them for 20 - 25 years, how will they save if "they are not there"?
    1. Cheburashk Offline
      Cheburashk (Vladimir) 30 July 2020 15: 04
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      I categorically disagree with Andrey Suzdaltsev (nice and convenient), plus Zakhar Prilepil said that among the Russians detained in Minsk there are several people who fought with him in Donbass. Who asked him to say this and why is unknown.
      But the version of Alexander Kots is more or less suitable, although many questions also arise.
  8. _AMUHb_ Offline
    _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 30 July 2020 16: 49
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    And this is an ally, for whom the whole world will have to cut it? Lukashenka, are you out of your mind or "beguiled the Ramses"?
  9. Monster_Fat Offline
    Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 31 July 2020 15: 49
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    Why guess something? Here is a list of the detainees. Then, we go to the site "peacemaker" (just do not bend) we break through the specified names and look - "who is who" ....

    https://www.yaplakal.com/forum1/st/150/topic2148748.html
  10. Sergey Babeshko Offline
    Sergey Babeshko (Sergey Babeshko) 31 July 2020 21: 35
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    One blah-blah-blah from the father's side. And the way Petya has passports crust! Prize in the studio!
  11. zz811 Offline
    zz811 (Vlad Pervovich) 1 August 2020 14: 33
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    But I'm wondering if the AHL will be demolished on August 9, where will it go after its quirks? To Yanukovych's dacha?